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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

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Dennis Brown

• Julia W
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• PBS

CheckUser changes

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
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Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Oversighter changes

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

Hello can you change Russian federal subject Infobox so I could put GDP data. Many regions in other countries have GDP numbers in table. For example I would like to put Gross Domestic Product (GDP) data into Moscow Oblast main table but I can’t Radom1967 (talk) 10:47, 5 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240105104700","author":"Radom1967","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Radom1967-20240105104700-Russian_federal_subject_Infobox","replies":[]}}-->

Category:Shoplifters has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Heyallkatehere (talk) 14:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240108145700","author":"Heyallkatehere","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Heyallkatehere-20240108145700-Category:Shoplifters_has_been_nominated_for_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi The Anome. I recently deleted a maintenance category that you link to on your user page. Alternative categories for that purpose are identified here. Happy editing, Zsinj^Talk 16:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240110162800","author":"Zsinj","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zsinj-20240110162800-Created_a_red_link_on_your_user_page","replies":[]}}-->

Template:Uw-ublock-nonsense has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:23, 11 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240111062300","author":"Red-tailed hawk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Red-tailed_hawk-20240111062300-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Uw-ublock-nonsense","replies":[],"displayName":"Red-tailed\u00a0hawk"}}-->

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

• Red-tailed hawk
• Robertsky

• Ameliorate!
• Ancheta Wis
• Anthony Bradbury (deceased)
• Cobi
• Ev
• Moondyne
• Worm That Turned

Bureaucrat changes

Worm That Turned

CheckUser changes

Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

• Enterprisey
• Izno

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
• Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
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Hi there. Regarding this edit, the coordinates are available on Wikidata. It might be better for the bot to add the appropriate template so that these coordinates can be used, rather than tagging them as missing. We could just add {{coord|display=title}} and the coordinates will display automatically. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240207092700","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MSGJ-20240207092700-Coord_missing","replies":[]}}-->

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The article Takeshi Ebisawa has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Violates WP:BLPCRIME, person is not convicted and apparently only known for this case.

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Hi, I fully respect your 20+ years knowledge of, and experience in, the use of Wikipedia, but I suspect your experience of hot-air baths, of which Hammams and Victorian Turkish baths are prime examples, is considerably less.

The definition given in the article is one which has been discussed by bathers and writers for many years in order to try to provide a specific definition of the bath such that it cannot be confused with the mish-mash of baths which it is commonly used for. It is already a minimal definition.

I'm afraid your short definition completely undoes the much-needed specificity of the article's definition, (a) because your short definition does not in fact define the Victorian Turkish bath, which, as you will see from the flow-chart at the start of the section called The Victorian Turkish bath process, is a totality of several parts. Splitting any part off does not give an indication of what the bath is by comparison with, for example, the banya, the vapour bath, the hammam, thermae, sento, or the sauna (all of which need better definition from someone with appropriate knowledge). (b) the shampooing is omitted, (c) one does not wash; one is washed (by a shampooer)

A similar flow-chart has appeared in Christie Pearson's landmark book The architecture of bathing: body, landscape, art (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 2020) p.85 so it appears to sum up the totality of the bath effectively in the United States also.

The necessary first lines definition in the article is shorter than many, and does not appear to be too long for Collins Dictionary, for example. On Wikipedia the first line definition of Sauna is almost 6 lines long; that for Hammam is 9 lines long, that for banya (sauna) is 4 lines long, that for Irish Civil War is 4 lines long; that for vegetables is 6 lines long, etc, etc,

In short, I think the 2 line definition of VTb compares rather well.

This totally new article has only been on Wikipedia for five days and I most respectfully ask that you leave the definition alone for a month or so to see if there are any other suggestions which could first be discussed on a talk page. All the steps to be taken with this page were noted at length and very few differences of opinion can be discerned. The correction of errors or indication of omissions is, of course, welcomed and will be acted on.

Or have I totally misunderstood the notification I received, and there are actually to be no changes without discussion? If so, please accept my apologies.Ishpoloni (talk) 23:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240223233700","author":"Ishpoloni","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ishpoloni-20240223233700-Victorian_Turkish_baths","replies":[]}}-->

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As far as I can tell, your change of "Turkiye" to "Turkey" in the Magnus Carlsen article was completely invisible and unnecessary. It doesn't change what flag is displayed or what article is linked to the flag. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240228194400","author":"BarrelProof","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BarrelProof-20240228194400-Change_of_\"Turkiye\"_to_\"Turkey\"","replies":["c-The_Anome-20240228203200-BarrelProof-20240228194400"]}}-->

As you say, there's no visible change. However, rolling back unnecessary uses of "Tűrkiye" is a good thing per WP:COMMONNAME, and it does no harm in this case. I'd also point out that "Turkiye" is definitely incorrect, as it's missing the diacritical mark. — The Anome (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240228203200","author":"The Anome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Anome-20240228203200-BarrelProof-20240228194400","replies":[]}}-->

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes Sdkb The Night Watch East718 Isabelle Belato Mzajac Staecker Stan Shebs Sugarfish Tamzin

Bureaucrat changes SilkTork

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
• Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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You removed comments made by other people here. Please fix it. RodRabelo7 (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240322200900","author":"RodRabelo7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RodRabelo7-20240322200900-Edit_conflict","replies":[]}}-->

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

• Kbdank71
• Kosack
• NrDg
• TLSuda

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

Miscellaneous

• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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Thanks for your contributions to Group insult. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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Thanks for your contributions to Znanie (educational organization, founded 1947). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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@The Anome may I help you with this page? 77.250.100.119 (talk) 12:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240404122700","author":"77.250.100.119","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-77.250.100.119-20240404122700-JoeNMLC-20240402213600","replies":["c-The_Anome-20240404230400-77.250.100.119-20240404122700"]}}-->

Yes, please. — The Anome (talk) 23:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240404230400","author":"The Anome","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Anome-20240404230400-77.250.100.119-20240404122700","replies":[]}}-->

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A tag has been placed on Community Database License Agreement requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Thanks for your contributions to Community Database License Agreement. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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I'm rather new (I feel VERY newbie), so I hope this is the right place for this question. Actually, it's a request. If it doesn't already, can Anomebot be changed to forego requesting geographic coordinates for primary and secondary schools and school districts active in the United States? School shootings...

Better yet, can it be designed to also remove coordinates added to the articles for active primary and secondary schools and school districts here? Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 00:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240424003600","author":"Oona Wikiwalker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240424003600-Should_Anomebot_request_geocoords_for_grade_schools_in_the_U._S.?","replies":["c-The_Anome-20240424091700-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240424003600"]}}-->

Hi Oona, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm not quite sure what your threat model is here. The addresses of schools are public, and available on all major mapping services: Google Maps, Bing Maps, Apple Maps, OpenStreetMap, and more. Moreover, school districts have lists of schools in their area, and the addresses for those schools are public, and can in turn be looked up on maps. Removing locations from Wikipedia would have no effect on any of these. On the other hand, schools are public buildings and their location is a valid datum for any of a wide number of legitimate purposes, and therefore seems logical to have on Wikipedia similar to the locations of other public facilities, as is long-established practice.

However, I think your proposal deserves to be heard, and if you'd still like to propose a policy change, I think the correct forum for this would be the Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) page, which would be a good place to post your request. — The Anome (talk) 09:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240424091700","author":"The Anome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Anome-20240424091700-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240424003600","replies":[]}}-->

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I used to work for the cabinet secretary in my state who oversaw the department responsible for Native American heritage and they do not make knowledge of the sites public. Utility companies, road construction companies, etc., are told of locations near where they must work but they are not allowed to publicize the locations either. The concern is not just for human remains, but to prevent contributing to the clandestine traffic in Native American artifacts. Should we carry coordinates for these locations in Wikipedia? I've felt less and less comfortable about this as I've been editing... Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 05:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240502054400","author":"Oona Wikiwalker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240502054400-Native_american_heritage_sites?","replies":["c-The_Anome-20240502084400-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240502054400"]}}-->

If their coordinates are published in official sources, we should have them here unless there are exceptional reasons for us to suppress information that is publicly available elsewhere. If they are kept secret to avoid interference (as is the case for many other archeological sites) they also should not have coordinates here, and you are welcome to remove the {{coord missing}} tag. Can you give some examples of the articles in question? — The Anome (talk) 08:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240502084400","author":"The Anome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Anome-20240502084400-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240502054400","replies":["c-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240503063200-The_Anome-20240502084400"]}}-->

Thank you so much for your speedy reply.

Example sites would be Lukaiasta, California mentioned by C. Merriam Hart here:
https://archive.org/details/bancroft_chartmerriam_1556_109/page/n285/mode/2up?q=Lucayasta&view=theater

referring to Frederick W. Hodge here:
https://archive.org/details/handbookamindians02hodgrich/page/778/mode/2up?view=theater,
who in turn was referring to this:

https://archive.org/details/californiafarmer1314unse/page/n61/mode/2up?view=theater&q=April, page 62, column 2, final paragraph.
That was the closest I could find to a location for them. It's just a hunch, but I'm guessing the village was extinct by the time of this article.

I can't find anything at all about the location of Kulul, California.

Paisin (pagosine) was definitely extinct: https://archive.org/details/bancroft_chartmerriam_1556_08/page/n129/mode/2up?q=pagosines&view=theater.

But would you please define official sources? In addition to tribal statements, do they include books and unpublished notes of anthropologists? Some early ones were sensitive and sympathetic, but others like Alfred Kroeber are coming under criticism for their exploitation of native individuals (not mentioned in the article) and, while they were truthful, they may have been publishing information against the will of tribal members who were not yet able to protest effectively. Some tribes have federal recognition and reservation lands. Some do not. Either way, it's distressing to tribal members that they have no control over the ground their ancestors rest in or they do have control and trespassers violate their sovereignty. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 06:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240503063200","author":"Oona Wikiwalker","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240503063200-The_Anome-20240502084400","replies":["c-The_Anome-20240503133700-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240503063200"]}}-->

Thanks! I will have to think about this some more, but in the two cases you have given where the coordinates are known to be unknown (that is to say, lost to time), you can tag them with the already existing tag {{coord unknown}}, and I have done so. It's possible we will need a new coord tag for cases where locations are known but not made public for good reasons, we may need a new tag, perhaps something like "coord restricted". This sounds like something worth discussing at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates — The Anome (talk) 13:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240503133700","author":"The Anome","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Anome-20240503133700-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240503063200","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi there! Today, the user Pi.1415926535 marked a lot of articles with geotags on them as not needing the coordinates: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Pi.1415926535&target=Pi.1415926535&offset=&limit=500 I am not complaining about what they did, but I suspect I've wasted months of time tracking down accurate coordinates for articles that didn't need them. So how do we make that call? I'm very confused and annoyed at the months of time I've wasted.Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 03:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240514035500","author":"Oona Wikiwalker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oona_Wikiwalker-20240514035500-How_do_we_decide_when_geocoords_are_not_needed?","replies":[]}}-->

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