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Yup, that was the right place to message me! Welcome to Wikipedia. Cool article you wrote. Do you know you can nominate it to appear on "Did you know?" on the main page? Go to Template talk:Did you know. Let me know if you have any questions! --Fang Aili ^talk 13:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-31T13:36:00.000Z","author":"Fang Aili","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T13:36:00.000Z-Dominickers_(ethnic_group),_etc","replies":["c-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T14:33:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T13:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

I worked on this a bit. I think it flows a bit better now. However there are a lot of "possibly"s and "maybe"s in this article. In reading it I am confused about what's fact and what's conjecture. You did a good job writing though; it's hard when you don't have concrete sources. --Fang Aili ^talk 14:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-31T14:33:00.000Z","author":"Fang Aili","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T14:33:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T13:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fang_Aili-2006-09-01T00:04:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T14:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't wait too long with DYK--there's a 72 hr time limit.

Re talk pages, usually people will respond to your messages on your talk page, and vice-versa. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-01T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Fang Aili","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fang_Aili-2006-09-01T00:04:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-08-31T14:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think it is important to give some more detail on the Indian ancestery even if the only documentation refers to one individual, as it is this mix that establishes the group as notable. Providing you can source the information I don't think it is a problem. I suggested dropping "Family historians" because this suggests original research which is against policy. I've reworded it - see what you think.

For the inline citation there is a quick reference here: Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles/Citation_quick_reference

Good luck with it. Yomangani^talk 02:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-01T02:09:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-09-01T02:09:00.000Z-More_on_Dominickers","replies":[]}}-->

If you are still having problems with inline citations, I've created a demo here: User:Yomangani/Sandbox/Dom. Look at the source and you'll see how to produce basic inline refs and how to reuse them. Let me know when you've finished with it or if you don't need it, and I'll delete it. Congratulations on the DYK by the way. Yomangani^talk 00:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-02T00:50:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-09-02T00:50:00.000Z-More_on_Dominickers","replies":["c-Yomangani-2006-09-05T00:00:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-02T00:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought you said you were stepping back for a while - you're hooked! :) Yomangani^talk 00:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-05T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-09-05T00:00:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-02T00:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Textorus-2006-09-06T02:20:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-05T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I know. This is awful, I've created a monster, it won't let go of me! LOL Textorus 02:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-06T02:20:00.000Z","author":"Textorus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Textorus-2006-09-06T02:20:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-05T00:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Short answer: no you can't.

Long answer: Removing a non-policy violating article isn't easy (a lot of the time it isn't easy to remove even those that do violate policy), and really it would be a shame to lose it - this is exactly the sort of thing Wikipedia should have: articles that may not make it into paper encyclopedia simply because they are on paper and have limited space. Once you submit anything to Wikipedia you are licencing your contribution under the GDFL so they essentially cease to become your property - anybody can edit them (see WP:C and WP:OWN for some more details), so your editorial decisions are only as valid as the next person's. That said, the article is almost entirely your work, so in any discussion on the subject your views would have some weight, and it is unlikely that anybody will object to some minor trimming. I would suggest you just cut it back to what you think is an appropriate level (you'll be the best judge of what is necessary to include to give a good coverage of the subject). If you have a particular previous version you think fits the bill exactly, you can simply select that version from the history, then hit "edit this page" and save it (that will overwrite the existing version with the older version). On a related note I don't know whether the "Ethnic group" sidebox Template:Ethnic_group would be of any interest to your for this article - have a look. All the best, Yomangani^talk 23:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-09T23:25:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-09-09T23:25:00.000Z-Taking_it_back","replies":["c-Yomangani-2006-09-11T00:01:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-09T23:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

The GDFL licenses your work, it doesn't transfer ownership of it, so you would not have to cite Wikipedia in any further articles you produced (unless you actually used it as a primary source). You could also copyright the work on your own website (providing it wasn't copied directly from Wikipedia), but there would be nothing to stop third parties taking the duplicated content from Wikipedia since you have already released it under license here. I wouldn't like to comment on legal validity of the assertion of copyright over previously GDFL licensed material, but the advantage of submitting it to other publications is they may not have the same restrictive policies regarding original research and NPOV, so you may be able to give opinion, advance original arguments and refute others, rendering the final work substantially different from the Wikipedia article. Cheers, Yomangani^talk 00:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-11T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-09-11T00:01:00.000Z-Yomangani-2006-09-09T23:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 1 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dominickers (ethnic group), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Great job! Keep it up!--Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 19:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-01T19:16:00.000Z","author":"Srikeit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Srikeit-2006-09-01T19:16:00.000Z-DYK","replies":[]}}-->

You made it! Great job. It's a worthy addition to DYK and Wikipedia. I still feel like it's dangling on the line of original research, but.. heck. ;) --Fang Aili ^talk 21:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-01T21:28:00.000Z","author":"Fang Aili","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fang_Aili-2006-09-01T21:28:00.000Z-DYK","replies":["c-Fang_Aili-2006-09-02T14:53:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-09-01T21:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think everything's ok with it right now. I'm no expert in the original research policy or image policy, but if no one objected after it appeared on DYK, it should all be ok. Congrats on getting some vandalism! ;) --Fang Aili ^talk 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-02T14:53:00.000Z","author":"Fang Aili","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fang_Aili-2006-09-02T14:53:00.000Z-Fang_Aili-2006-09-01T21:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A note to all: I've worked like a Trojan this week getting this article written, expanded, cited, sourced, referenced, revised, and edited. Now it's just pretty darn good, if I do say so myself; so I'm going to let it sit a while, and get back to urgent matters in my real life. I appreciate all the good help and suggestions very much. But now it's time to let the article rest; I've included plenty of references and links for folks who want to dig further. I've also written up several short articles that link to mine; it's been fun but a lot more work than I planned.  :-) So I'm taking a break now, and getting back to my real job. Peace to all. Textorus 19:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-03T19:37:00.000Z","author":"Textorus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Textorus-2006-09-03T19:37:00.000Z-Taking_a_break","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Textorus, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

I would suggest you look into Kevin Cahill's book. I heard him interviewed about this and he is pretty convincing. He put years of work into this and works for the Economist, I understand.--Filll 01:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-19T01:23:00.000Z","author":"Filll","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Filll-2006-12-19T01:23:00.000Z-who_owns_the_world","replies":["c-Filll-2006-12-19T03:03:00.000Z-Filll-2006-12-19T01:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

It might be pure nonsense. I do not know. He claimed that the US was one of the few places in the world that made personal ownership of land very clear. I am not an expert in law etc so I cannot pass judgement one way or the other.--Filll 03:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-19T03:03:00.000Z","author":"Filll","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Filll-2006-12-19T03:03:00.000Z-Filll-2006-12-19T01:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It's upsetting, but it's not an attack on anyone in particular. Under policies known as T2 (as well as T1 if I recall correctly) all interesting userboxes have been migrated into userspace under the userbox migration system. I had some Green Party userboxes that were outright deleted, not even migrated, because political userboxes were seen as the worst of the worst. I could replace them but I just haven't yet. Anyway, all religious and secular, political and anarchist, sexual and prudish, philosophical and whatever's-the-opposition-to-philosophy-hmmm userboxes have been not only migrated, but strongly discouraged, so they aren't even advertised at Wikipedia:Userboxes. I've seen LGBT userboxes, straight userboxes, "straight but not narrow" userboxes, etc., on userpages since then, so I'd advise you to just keep an eye out or ask around to find the ones that are still in circulation. — coelacan talk – 12:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-19T12:38:00.000Z","author":"Coelacan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coelacan-2006-12-19T12:38:00.000Z-ubx","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your help with the Culture of Canada page. It needed someone to go over it and put the wikilinks in. Avt tor 23:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-20T23:43:00.000Z","author":"Avt tor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Avt_tor-2006-12-20T23:43:00.000Z-Culture_of_Canada","replies":[]}}-->

Wow! You gave Lesbian American history the review it truly needed, especially given I'd like to one day bring it to featured article status. I can't thank you enough for your input. Most of the material I had was from a graduate level history class (History 640: History of Women in the United States), in which I did a lot of research on Lesbians in American history. Unfortunately, the essays therewith associated were often critical, so wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia, bearing my own stamp of political ideology. I've had to work with my notecards from the research and temper my analysis for an NPOV view, so several things I was unable to immediately address (for example, the role of Lesbians in the promotion of marriage equality), but plan to review. Honestly, I have all of Emma Goldman's writings, and though I don't have the reference handy (now I have my homework for this weekend), Emma Goldman was *the first* person on record in the United States (I remember this from the same history class, unless Dr. Dunn was lying...I just consulted my notebook and I have that among my lecture notes) to speak out for LGBT equality. As Emma Goldman is my hero (silly as it may sound), I've resolved to refrain from making edits to her article (though I reserve the right to make minor edits) on this very importatnt heroine. Also, I like to remind you that you are no less capable than anyone else in advancing this topic. If we were to believe that only women or lesbians were capable of accurately advancing this topic, then I would be quite ignorant. You don't need to be Wilma Mankiller to advocate the Cherokees, and you need not be Rita Mae Brown to advocate Lesbians. I sincerely prize your input, and I hope that you'll continue to be a necessary part of making sure this topic receives proper scrutiny. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 07:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T07:51:00.000Z","author":"Chuchunezumi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T07:51:00.000Z-Thanks_a_million!","replies":["c-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T08:14:00.000Z-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T07:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Oh, and I hope that you might review the article on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyke_tyke. Don't forget that allies are oftentimes more useful than rank-and-file soldiers! Chuchunezumi 08:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T08:14:00.000Z","author":"Chuchunezumi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T08:14:00.000Z-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T07:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The LGBT Barnstar

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		I, User:Chuchunezumi award this barnstar to User:Textorus for incredible contributions to the area of LGBT scholarship Chuchunezumi 08:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T08:29:00.000Z","author":"Chuchunezumi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chuchunezumi-2006-12-21T08:29:00.000Z-Barnstar_awarded","replies":[]}}-->

In response to your comment on the CfR at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 16#Category:People imprisoned or executed for homosexuality, the discussion there and more extensively at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies#Need suggestions for category renaming has pointed out that this particular category is meant to deal only with legalistic procedures, usually state-enforced. The fact of legal proscriptions against homosexuality is a different issue than persecution in general. Matthew Sheppard was a victim of persecution, but not of state oppression. There is already a category for "persecution" in general, and it is currently named Category:Hate crimes against LGBT people (although it too could be renamed, but that is a separate matter). The category we are discussing, Category:People imprisoned or executed for homosexuality, is a subcategory of that one, as state oppression is indeed persecution, but the two are not one and the same. It is important to preserve legalistic persecution as a distinct topic, which is why we are not upmerging it into hate crimes or persecution in general. Given what I've just said, and perhaps after reading the full discussion at both the CfR and the Wikiproject links, I would ask you to reconsider your vote. Indeed we are not going to be upmerging the category of state-sponsered oppression into the more general category, so the question is really, is a renaming of Category:People imprisoned or executed for homosexuality to Category:People prosecuted under anti-homosexuality laws something you can abide by? — coelacan talk – 16:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Coelacan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coelacan-2006-12-21T16:18:00.000Z-regarding_\"persecution\"","replies":[]}}-->

I read over civil unions in New Jersey after signing the bill through Corzine in New Jersey. Which can be the next states in USA, where a political chance for civil unions are ? I think: Maryland (Martin O'Malley), Delaware (Ruth Ann Minner), Oregon (Ted Kulongoski) and New York (Eliot Spitzer) (all three now democratic gouvernors)? Is that correct ?GLGerman 09:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-22T09:46:00.000Z","author":"GLGerman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GLGerman-2006-12-22T09:46:00.000Z-Civil_unions_in_New_Jersey","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Textorus! Thank you for dropping a line on my talk page. No big deal about putting the LGBTProject template on the article page rather than the article's Talk page. I got on a roll and moved them all. I'm just happy someone's working on the LGBT articles! --Tiger Marc^ROAR! 23:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T23:49:00.000Z","author":"Tiger Marc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-29T23:49:00.000Z-LGBTProject_template_on_Talk_page","replies":["c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-30T01:00:00.000Z-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-29T23:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not absolutely sure what the article ratings are for. I think it's to help the project find nominees for group cooperation in the future. Also, feel free to rate an article when you add the project template. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Assessment for more info. --Tiger Marc^ROAR! 01:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Tiger Marc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-30T01:00:00.000Z-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-29T23:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your help at talk:marriage. There will probably be a request for binding mediation in a couple days or sooner, so if you're burnt out with the discussion now, what you've already said will be considered by disinterested editors then. Hopefully a NPOV article will result. I haven't responded to all your points but I've taken them all in. =) — coelacan talk – 01:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T01:28:00.000Z","author":"Coelacan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coelacan-2006-12-30T01:28:00.000Z-talk:marriage","replies":["c-Coelacan-2006-12-30T02:22:00.000Z-Coelacan-2006-12-30T01:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hahaha! The other onemanandonewoman editors would actually be pretty tolerable without Nkras riling things up, imho. I just pointed out to him that he's already stated contempt for consensus. Now that he's said that, I don't consider him to be part of the discussion, since consensus is the primary method of wiki. I couldn't resist correcting his flailing at "kosher" though. I hope he really does make a phone call to hear it straight from the rabbi's mouth. Then maybe he can lecture the rabbi for "deconstructing" the Torah. — coelacan talk – 02:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T02:22:00.000Z","author":"Coelacan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coelacan-2006-12-30T02:22:00.000Z-Coelacan-2006-12-30T01:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I probably phrased that wrongly. What I mean is that, although Manx can differ from UK law, in this case it doesn't, and so there seems to be little point in having a separate article on it. Really, the Isle of Man ought to be covered only when it does not coincide with UK law, and not when it does. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 04:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T04:20:00.000Z","author":"Dev920","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dev920-2006-12-31T04:20:00.000Z-Isla_of_Man","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Tex, LOL. I'm honored that you appreciate me! That's an interesting article too. To quote Sean Penn, “You tolerate me, you really tolerate me.” --Tiger Marc^ROAR! 04:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T04:43:00.000Z","author":"Tiger Marc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-31T04:43:00.000Z-Florida_Legislative_Investigation_Committee","replies":["c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-31T06:42:00.000Z-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-31T04:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's funny how this whole Wiki thing works. The quote I left above motivated me to delve into Wikiquote for the past few hours. Nows, I gots the madd skillz in da wiki Quote haus!!! ;-) Surely that's a sign it's time to sleep. 'Night! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tiger Marc (talk • contribs) 06:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T06:42:00.000Z","author":"Tiger Marc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-31T06:42:00.000Z-Tiger_Marc-2006-12-31T04:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please don't add people to Category:LGBT people if they're already filed in a subcategory such as Category:LGBT people from the United States. Wikipedia discourages duplicate categorization of this type. Thanks. Bearcat 05:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Bearcat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bearcat-2006-12-31T05:09:00.000Z-Thomas_Anthony_Dooley","replies":[]}}-->

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue II - January 1, 2007

Happy New Year to all our members! Project News Several new templates have been created: {{Bisexuality topics sidebar}} and {{Transgender sidebar}} by Dev920 and AliceJMarkham respectively. SatyrTN also created a {{LGBT Welcome}} template to welcome new members. Thanks to them all. The LGBT Portal's various sections could do with updating on a weekly basis. Please pitch in if you can. Latter Days became a Featured Article on December 31. It was written and nominated by Dev920. Congratulations Dev! A new assessment system has been implemented - we have tagged and assessed over 1100 articles so far! Please tag any LGBT related articles you come across by adding {{LGBTProject | class=}} to the talkpage. Please see the Assessment Department for how to assess an article according to the grading system. A fledgling monthly LGBT Collaboration has been started, with Homosexuality as the December article and Gay stereotyping as our January article. Please contribute to this if you can, even if it's just correcting typos. A Translation department has been set up, to translate LGBT articles from foreign language Wikipedias that may have more information than our equivalent article. Please add your name if you are fluent in any language other than English. We have a brand new unique Project! Jumpaclass is a new semi-competition to improve our lower quality articles - see the subpage for more information. Please sign up and get it going! Finally, our membership numbers have exploded! 21 new users have joined the Wikiproject: AdelaMae, WJBscribe, Trodaikid1983, Jtowns, Agne27, Boyau, NickGorton, Dialecticas, DaliJim, Tonei, Cabbers, silent, Textorus, GLGerman, Haiduc, Hornandsoccer, Bopopop, NinaOdell, Badbilltucker, DanB DanD, and Tiger Marc. Please make them feel welcome!

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I'd like to move your Randy Shilts article to the next DYK update, but I notice that all the references except one are clumped under "External links" at the end rather than being connected to individual paragraphs with citation notes. If you are up to making the improvement, I'll make sure it goes on the next DYK update after its completed. I'd make the improvement myself but you are more familiar with the sources and could do it more easily. ◄HouseOfScandal► 22:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-02T22:13:00.000Z","author":"HouseOfScandal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HouseOfScandal-2007-01-02T22:13:00.000Z-Randy_Shilts","replies":[]}}-->

As you were leaving the message on my page I was simultaneously here letting you know that I put Shilts on the next update. Good work on the article. There aren't that many LGBT topics among my articles but I am glad to help get one seen on DYK. Best wishes...I am now off to watch another episode of Ugly Betty! ◄HouseOfScandal► 08:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T08:20:00.000Z","author":"HouseOfScandal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HouseOfScandal-2007-01-03T08:20:00.000Z-Randy_Shilts","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Textorus. I’m sorry about the misunderstanding at the civil union talk page. I didn’t mean to sounds like I was being belligerent although I guess I was being a bit defensive. Sometimes humour gets lost in written communication. Let’s just put it down to experience and get on with editing. You’re doing a good job on the article. – Adz|talk 00:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T00:49:00.000Z","author":"Adz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Adz-2007-01-03T00:49:00.000Z-Civil_unions","replies":[]}}-->

Haha well if I was dense enough not to figure it out, some extra explanation would probably help at least one other reader in my position! Thanks for schooling me. — coelacan talk – 01:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T01:10:00.000Z","author":"Coelacan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coelacan-2007-01-03T01:10:00.000Z-Domestic_partnership_in_Tasmania","replies":[]}}-->

I am assessing this as per your request on the LGBT noticeboard. I will give it a "B", but I have one concern. The section where Shilts is spat upon for calling for the closure of the bathhouses: The article states (and it is supported by the obit used as reference, I admit), that he called for the closure in articles from the mid 80s, and that he included a note about this in the book about Milk. I find this troublesome, as the Milk book was released in 1982, years before the epidemic took hold. The bathhouses were open until at least 1984. So I wonder if the note in his book was actually in And The Band Played On... Perhaps you can double check this. If you don't get anywhere, please let me know and I will. I lived in SF during this period (1977-1984) so I have a personal interest in this. Jeffpw 09:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z","author":"Jeffpw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z-Shilts_article","replies":["c-Textorus-2007-01-03T09:42:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z","c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T10:04:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm glad you spotted that. Here's the LA Times source for what I wrote in that sentence, but I overlooked the chronology:

Although he was worshiped by many in gay circles for enlightening heterosexuals, Shilts was controversial among more radical members of the movement, some of whom labeled him a "gay Uncle Tom." In the mid-1980s, his stories suggesting that gay bathhouses in San Francisco were breeding grounds for AIDS made him a pariah, unable to walk through the city's Castro District without being jeered or spat upon. When "And the Band Played On" came out, he was attacked for charging that gay groups initially pretended that AIDS did not exist. More recently, he was faulted for opposing the "outing" of prominent, closeted gays, including two four-star generals he described anonymously in "Conduct Unbecoming." Shilts was hurt by such barbs, but refused to alter his message or obscure the truth to win friends. In the author's note for "The Mayor of Castro Street," he offered this explanation: "I can only answer that I tried to tell the truth and, if not be objective, at least be fair; history is not served when reporters prize trepidation and propriety over the robust journalistic duty to tell the whole story."

But now that you bring it up, it does seem that Shilts's note antedates the bathhouse controversy. Let me see if I can reword the sentence in my article, then see what you think. Appreciate the help from someone who was there. --Textorus 09:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T09:42:00.000Z","author":"Textorus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Textorus-2007-01-03T09:42:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:50:00.000Z-Textorus-2007-01-03T09:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm wondering if the Times obit got it wrong, or took the quote out of context. It's sloppy, either way. The only way to tell for sure, of course, is to check out the book itself. If it is indeed in the book, it would have to be in a later edition. Jeffpw 09:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T09:50:00.000Z","author":"Jeffpw","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:50:00.000Z-Textorus-2007-01-03T09:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• That section reads better now. Have you considered, though, expanding it to include the other big reason he was so controversial to the gay community (eg: his assimilationism)? That was certainly a bone of contention at a time when gays were striving to create a legitimate identity, unconstrained by the morality of the heterosexual majority. Jeffpw 10:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T10:04:00.000Z","author":"Jeffpw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T10:04:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T09:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Textorus-2007-01-03T10:29:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T10:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

His "assimilationism" (what a mouthful!) was mentioned in a couple of sources in passing; but I would need to research that further to find out exactly what is/was meant by that in the context of the time and place. You were there, though; if you have a clear idea of the point being made, by all means, add that in. --Textorus 10:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T10:29:00.000Z","author":"Textorus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Textorus-2007-01-03T10:29:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T10:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Go into the edits to see how I did it. It makes it a lot easier for you in the future. Jeffpw 13:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Jeffpw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T13:02:00.000Z-Shilts_refs_wikified","replies":["c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T22:40:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T13:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You're quite welcome. If you go into the edit page function, you'll see how I did it. If you expand this, or create another article, you'll see how you only have to add the ref once, and can use it in multiple places without typing the whole link out. Also, see now why the same urls for external links are redundant? Once the refs are wikified, the title of the link comes out for the reader to click on if they want. By the way, congrats on getting it promoted to a DYK?, but watch it carefully while it is on the main page, since articles on the main page tend to be attractive targets of vandals. Jeffpw 22:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Jeffpw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T22:40:00.000Z-Jeffpw-2007-01-03T13:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On January 3, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Randy Shilts, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Larbot - run by User:Lar - t/c 17:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-03T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Larbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Larbot-2007-01-03T17:46:00.000Z-An_article_which_you_started,_or_significantly_expanded,_Randy_Shilts,_was_selec","replies":[]}}-->

On 6 January, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Florida Legislative Investigation Committee, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

 – ERcheck (talk) 11:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-06T11:29:00.000Z","author":"ERcheck","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ERcheck-2007-01-06T11:29:00.000Z-Florida_Legislative_Investigation_Committee_on_DYK","replies":[]}}-->

Would you be willing to collaborate with me on cleaning up this article? A lot of it is totally in need of repair, but I'm more of a Wiki Faerie than an actual editor, so I'd love some help and a second brain to be involved... – SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-08T01:57:00.000Z","author":"SatyrTN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SatyrTN-2007-01-08T01:57:00.000Z-Sexuality_and_gender_identity-based_cultures","replies":["c-SatyrTN-2007-01-14T00:36:00.000Z-SatyrTN-2007-01-08T01:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sounds good! Good luck with your work :) – SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-14T00:36:00.000Z","author":"SatyrTN","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SatyrTN-2007-01-14T00:36:00.000Z-SatyrTN-2007-01-08T01:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue III - February 1, 2007

Announcement: If someone requests help or feedback on an article, please try your hardest to help them out if you are able. Thank you. Project News The LGBT Portal has once again been revamped and a work rota started. Efforts towards Featured Portal status are slowly coming together. The assessment system has been a great success, we have tagged over 4000 articles! Please tag any LGBT related articles you come across by adding {{LGBTProject | class=}} to the talkpage. Please see the Assessment Department for how to assess an article according to the grading system. The Translation department has changed its focus, to LGBT articles about non-English topics and people on which there may be more information on the relevant foreign Wikipedia. Please add your name if you are fluent in any language other than English. Jumpaclass is picking up slowly, with nine people having entered. With over 2000 stubs we need to improve our article quality. Please sign up and get it going! Challenge another user to see how far you can jump a stub! There is an ongoing discussion about the current LGBT categorisation system here, here, and a little bit here. A special page has now been set up here to deal with this. A Watchlist has been set up to monitor controversial and/or highly vandalised articles. It can also be used for article disputes, just add a note explaining the nature of the dispute. With the influx of so many active members, there is now enough support for a LGBT studies peer review, which may be found here. It's in the beta phase at the moment, so bear with us if we make any mistakes. Feel free to peer review any articles you have been working on. It was agreed this month to start reducing the uses of the Notice board, as many members felt that it was not effective. An open tasks template has been created, bringing together important announcements, FAC/FARs, Peer reviews, XfDs, the COTM, and requested articles. You may desire to watchlist it. A Deletion sorting subpage is also now working to bring together XfDs - this should be bot-driven, but we have not currently tagged enough articles to make this fully automated, so please update the list with any LGBT-related XfDs you come across. Article news Two articles were recently shepherded through the Featured Article process by two of our members - Same-sex marriage in Spain and The Well of Loneliness. Congratulations go to (respectively) Raystorm and Celithemis! Member News We more than doubled our membership this month! 53 new users have joined the Wikiproject: Aleta, Koweja, Profriend, Andrewn, Carolynparrishfan, Cpnlsn88, Brian1979, Tullerk, Garydw, Ganymead, Celithemis, Burnley, Lquilter, Parammon, Forsakendaemon, Allyn, bcatt, Dfeuer, Raystorm, Fabienne1, Esprix, Antanta, Janusvulcan, Elizabeth Lund, Ashleyvh, E. Sn0 =31337=, MiraLuka, White hotel, Zythe, Athena2006, CosmicWaffles, Emiellaiendiay, Musimax, AlexReynolds, Swollib, Nield, Kriza, 100110100, Andral, thickslab, Ronline, Iamvered, FisherQueen, William percy, Viannah, Ssbohio, Ali-oops, Anyaanomaly, Revolución, Ender2155, LuciferMorgan, Kathryn NicDhàna, and Artgoyle. Please make them feel welcome!

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue IV - March 1, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Find 5 editors to LGBT articles and invite them to the project! Check out our recruitment tips if you need them. Good luck! Project News With such rapid development of the project, it was decided that a Coordinator was needed to ensure all the fiddly maintenence was kept up. Elections were held and Dev920 (talk · contribs) has been elected Coordinator for the next three months. She said "I am honoured and proud to be at the helm of such a fantastic WikiProject and look forward to our future". Congratulations Dev! The assessment system continues to be a great success, we have tagged over 5200 articles! Please tag any LGBT related articles you come across by adding {{LGBTProject | class=}} to the talkpage. Please see the Assessment Department for how to assess an article according to the grading system. Jumpaclass is proving to be quite successful! The winner at the end of the year gets to pick the January collaboration, so sign up and get going! Or challenge another user to see how far you can jump a stub! A new Community department has been set up to foster community amongst our members. It mostly acts as other WikiProjects' Outreach department, but also has a Quilt to which every member is entitled to add a square containing anything of their choice. The peer review is not getting much custom - please notice you can cross-list other peer reviews from different projects that also fall within our scope. Many people still seem to be unaware that the Deletion sorting subpage exists for XfDs to be listed: please use and watch that page instead of issuing "alerts" for ordinary AfDs on the project talkpage. WP:FILM has a current drive to give every film article an infobox. WP:LGBT successfully gave all 105 LGBT infoboxless films infoboxes, so a big thank you to everyone who participated. A new template, LGBT, has been created for articles which are becoming to cluttered with infoboxes. Thanks to WJBscribe and SatyrTN for creating it. A very basic resources page has been started. Please add to it as you come across useful sites. A promotional poster for the project has been created: http://wplgbt.tripod.com/Wikipedianeedsyou.doc (you have to directly cut and paste the url, or it won't let you download it). Please distribute anywhere and everywhere you desire, such as gay libraries, cybercafes, community centres and so on. Also, please let Dev920 know where you have put it up, so she can keep track of our coverage. An LGBT Publications Taskforce has been proposed. Please sign up here if you are interested in being involved. An LGBT WikiProject has been set up on the Spanish Wikipedia! Set up by Raystorm, it has already gained six members and is developing an assessment system. If you speak any Spanish, please consider going up and lending a hand if you can! Article News An LGBT article, Homosexual readings of Jesus and John, made it onto the main page as a DYK this month. Congratulations to Haiduc, who wrote the article. Another article, Same-sex marriage in Italy, also made it onto the main page as a DYK this month. Congratulations to Raystorm, who wrote the article. And another article, George Cecil Ives, made it to the front page DYKs this month. Congratulations to Zefrog, who wrote the article. Member News Our membership continues to expand. 55 new users have joined the Wikiproject: HalJor, Brianna Austin, Kylehamilton , PeaceNT, Paradoxdept, Joie de Vivre, Bearcat, Avazina, Treybien, Xdenizen, Chalyres, Lisapollison, Stitchy CP, Wjhonson, Psicorps, Jliberty, Zuejay, DrGaellon, Mallanox, lwollert, Switchercat, Number301, emerson7, Ebyabe, Ashlux, Larrybob, Eirra, Alcarcalimo2364, DavidShankBone, Cedlaod, Mcguireka, Fireplace, Jacobshaven3, Buddmar, Yksin, Intesvensk, Justin_Eiler, kc12286, Kolindigo, PseudoPhoenix, Samanthabrennan, Anbellofe, roger_jg, Moni3, The Wednesday Island, Carom, Belovedfreak, My little needle, Fenoxielo, Arianna, Philippebeaudette, FrankCostanza, AmberAlert1713, A.Z., Fluffball70, . Please make them feel welcome! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please drop me a line. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue V - April 3, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Article News Three articles were promoted to Featured Article status this month: Homer's Phobia (2007-03-26), Trembling Before G-d (2007-03-15) and Andrew Van De Kamp (2007-03-30). Congratulations to Gran2 and Dev920 (twice!) respectively for all their hard work! Three new articles appeared on the Main Page as Did you know? items: Classification of transsexuals (2007-03-02), Steve Stanton (2007-03-08) and Melbourne Gay and Lesbian Chorus (2007-03-23), started by Lwollert, Yksin and MusicMen, respectively. DavidShankBone deserves kudos for his current drive to provide quality LGBT photos from the NYC area. One of the more recent photos is posted on Michael Musto, and you can check out the gallery on David's user page. Project News There is now the beginning of a list of core topics to possibly be included in the Wikipedia 1.0 release. Your suggestions are welcome; there may be many core LGBT topics still missing. We have a list of people categorized as LGBT whose articles need to be checked for reliable sourcing. This effort is necessary and urgent, to comply with Wikipedia's policy on living persons. Please take a few moments to source one article; if you've got time, do another. SatyrTN identified all the articles that were in subcategories of Category:LGBT but not yet tagged with the project's banner, about 1,400 articles. These have been completed, though SatyrBot will make periodic runs through the cats to find any new entries. Thanks Satyr! The number of articles within our project's spectrum (6,667 currently) should now be relatively stable and only grow with article creation. However, if you find a category that should be included, please let SatyrTN know so it can be included in the bots runs. Work is underway to improve the LGBT Portal. Please add any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles to the gallery here. Also if anyone would like to volunteer to help in maintaining the portal, please make yourselves known on the Portal's talkpage. If you see any articles for deletion or any other deletion discussions related to LGBT topics, please remember to add them to the deletion sorting board. Thanks! Member News Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject: Garik, Esrever, mlbedwell, Jet123, Welland R, Auriel, DaliJim, queerpeace, SUIT, Mentality, Nukleoptra, LeaHazel, lindleyle, Justin Eiler, Bylandl, Brent Calderwood, PC78, Gekedo, polymathematics, Coryarlo, Ziji, mcgarymi. Please make them feel welcome! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please drop me a line. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter - SPECIAL ELECTION EDITION

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue VI - May 2, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Stand for Deputy Coordinator or support some candidates after May 5... Article News Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other is a Featured Article Candidate. Project News A taskforce dealing with LGBT publications has been proposed. If you are interested in getting involved, consider signing up at the projects' page. Our core topics list is looking good. It's still a bit slim on LGBT history articles, non-American LGBT media, and important LGBT biographies. Do you have suggestions? David Shankbone has done an amazing job taking photographs of LGBT celebrities. Thanks David! People interested in collaborating with him and setting up a photography taskforce should contact him or drop a note at the project's talkpage. The LGBT Portal still needs a bit of love and attention :-). Again, any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles can be added to the gallery here. Volunteers to help out with the Portal are extremely welcome- make yourselves known on the Portal's talkpage. Updates to the current news items are helpful. Deputy coordinator elections WikiProject LGBT studies is looking for new Deputy Coordinators to help out with various essential tasks in organising the project. To nominate yourself or contribute to the discussion, please go to: Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Coordinator/May 2007. The deadline for nominations is May 5 and the elections will last a week after that. Candidates so far are: SatyrTN, Raystorm and Fireplace. The elections will be pretty simple- everyone just endorses their favourite candidate(s). The three with the most votes at the end of the week are the new deputy coordinators, who will assist Dev920 in keeping the project running. Member News Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject (bringing our total membership to 182): Zigzig20s, Qxmagazine, TAnthony, Kbolino, Knorpel, Madman bum and angel, Ponyboy, BenjiBoi, Guy M, Pernishus, Rockdozen, RAShippy, Jaibe, Fshepinc, rglong, Boomboomeve, Undertheinfluence, Kyoko, Catsaki, OsteopathicFreak, smccoy12345, and Alexlovesme. Also Rebecca who rejoins us having previously been a member as Ambi. Please make them feel welcome! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, just ask Dev920. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let her know.

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue VII - June 1, 2007 Monthly Challenge: June Stub Review! Take a moment and sift through the roughly 3,600 Stub-class LGBT articles. Are they still stubs? If not, make an assessment change. Even better, do you see anything you can add/edit to increase the rating? Let's see if the project can lower the number of stubs down below 3,000! Project News WP:LGBT Exceeds 200 Members!! Two editors have been selected by project members as co-coordinators. Their duties are still a bit unclear, but having a few more janitors around the project will help keep us running smoothly. Please feel free to message Fireplace or SatyrTN if you have any project questions or concerns. Member News 20 new contributors joined the project in the last month (bringing total membership to 201): Illyria05, Brideshead, smartman89, Queerudite, JackFritscher, SeventhHaido, Evolauxia, Bandou, ChrisTW, NickGorton (back from break), Lynnllynn, KaiLeo, Meojive, Whstchy, Ceramykgoddess, Ljpmn79, snoopy753, Aralvarez, Enzedbrit, and Meininger. Please make them feel welcome  ! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, just ask Dev920. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let her know.

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue VIII - July 1, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Submit an article to our Jumpaclass competition! Languishing unloved, it is a great way to improving that article you always meant to improve but never got round to. Challenge someone else to go head to head and see who can improve their article most! Article News But I'm a Cheerleader is now GA Class! Project News Our Deputy Coordinators have been doing a fabulous job so far. Well done! The portal is now looking very snazzy, well done to Fireplace for all his hard work. The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now beed reduced by 20%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect! The Core Topics is now largely complete. The original aim of getting some kind of publication out of it is extremely long term - any short term uses we can make of it are welcome on the project talkpage. A suggestion was made this month that we start our own wiki. Although the conclusion was that we felt we were a part of Wikipedia rather than a stand alone organisation, it seems there is an LGBT wiki already, at http://lgbt.wikia.com/wiki/Main_page . Members may be interested in getting involved there. The Collaboration is now getting rather short on suggestions. Article nominations for August through December would be welcome on the talkpage. There is now a list of Missing LGBT Topics. Help is needed to work out which topics can be made redirects or need to be created. Please contribute is you can. An LGBT banner that was created for Wikipedia's internal ads system has now been adapted so it can be placed on blogs and websites. The html is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LGBT"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Qxz-ad48.gif" height="53" width="445"></a> Please credit Miranda and link to her userpage: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Miranda">Miranda</a>. The banner can be seen in action here. If you have a blog or a website, please consider adding the banner, either in a post or as part of your profile. Member News 11 new contributors joined the project in the last month: Xnuala, Samantha Pignez, Jreferee, BGMurph, jmsast, Kukini, Theinsidellama, Heyfoureyes, Iceflow, NickGorton, Lynnllynn, KaiLeo, Amadscientist, and Mad_Cheese_Eater. Please make them feel welcome  ! However, this is a bit low for a project of our standing, so please consider doing a little recruiting if you can. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).