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Hi there!

Sorry for bothering you. I'm Nuno, let me just give you a little bit of background. Back in 2012, when I remixed the Fado track, it was one of the first things to really go viral. I was invited to tv, and the track played in tv shows aswell. Unfortunately, since it was in 2012, I can't find anything about that online, just a couple of uploaded videos on YouTube with thousands of views. But the track is for sale. What you can check is that I am in fact the first producer to legally remix a "Fado" (traditional Portuguese singing) with house music. Fado is usually very sad, and for the first time, people sang in Portuguese and danced to it. I know it may not be very notable, a lot of people have done more. But I'm trying to come back on my feet, and get all my info together correctly. There's no exaggeration of facts or lies. Unfortunately there isn't much info.

Can you help me here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalim3ru (talk • contribs) 00:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T00:58:00.000Z","author":"Kalim3ru","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kalim3ru-2020-04-28T00:58:00.000Z-https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Draft:Nuno_Cunha","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:04:00.000Z-Kalim3ru-2020-04-28T00:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Kalim3ru, So you got a couple of things working against you here. 1) You shouldn't write articles about yourself, see WP:AUTO. Secondly, we have strict requirements for how we determine notability. A subject either needs to pass WP:SINGER (which you currently don't), or pass WP:GNG which requires significant coverage WP:SIGCOV in multiple, reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and as you've stated that coverage doesn't exist. I know this is a disappointment, but Wikipedia is not going to be the correct place for you get all your info together at. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:04:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:04:00.000Z-Kalim3ru-2020-04-28T00:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Sulfurboy:

If we omit wikipedia ES and IMDB many solid and diverse fonts remain in the text. I do it! Please check again

Thanks for understanding and helping.

Regards, Isbeta --Isbeta (talk) 21:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-27T21:38:00.000Z","author":"Isbeta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Isbeta-2020-04-27T21:38:00.000Z-Draft:Alina_Robert","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T00:18:00.000Z-Isbeta-2020-04-27T21:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Isbeta, Who is the we you are referring to? Sulfurboy (talk) 00:18, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T00:18:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T00:18:00.000Z-Isbeta-2020-04-27T21:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sulfurboy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alina_Robert --Isbeta (talk) 01:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Isbeta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Isbeta-2020-04-28T01:07:00.000Z-Draft:Alina_Robert","replies":[]}}-->

Sulfurboy, thank you for your approval and publication of Medical Deserts in the United States. I appreciate your encouragement and kind words. I was wondering if you could maybe suggest two things I could do to move it up that rubric, from a C to a B. Thanks again!!! MarcyMarcywinograd (talk) 01:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:21:00.000Z","author":"Marcywinograd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Marcywinograd-2020-04-28T01:21:00.000Z-medical_deserts","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z-Marcywinograd-2020-04-28T01:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Marcywinograd, So the grading from C to B is dependent on the project. If you go to the pages talk page Talk:Medical deserts in the United States, you'll see expandable tables for each of the project the page is attached to. You should see a sentence with a link that says This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.. You would need to review those standards and reach out to the appropriate groups for a bump in grading. You can also nominate the article for good article status. Information about that can be found at WP:GAN. Let me know if I can help with anything else. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z-Marcywinograd-2020-04-28T01:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Also, to tag on to this You should be proud of the C rating. I would say I assign an article a C rating out of AfC less than 5% of the time. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Link : Draft:Daku_(rapper) Hello , I just received an declined answer from you about my article . I'm not understanding why is this happening . Can you please give me more information on what I should do to improve my score on this . Best regards . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abconn3ct (talk • contribs) 01:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:51:00.000Z","author":"Abconn3ct","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abconn3ct-2020-04-28T01:51:00.000Z-Article_:_DAKU_(_rapper_)_HELP","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:53:00.000Z-Abconn3ct-2020-04-28T01:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Information, along with links to applicable policies are linked in the decline message. Are you not able to find that? Did you have specific questions about those policeis? Sulfurboy (talk) 01:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T01:53:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T01:53:00.000Z-Abconn3ct-2020-04-28T01:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Your recent editing history at Henry Masterson III shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. JimKaatFan (talk) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T00:34:00.000Z","author":"JimKaatFan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JimKaatFan-2020-05-06T00:34:00.000Z-May_2020","replies":[]}}-->

"not suitable for Wikipedia" would be scientifically correct: "not suitable for the English Wikipedia" since there are WackoWiki articles in other languages on wikipedia.org.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:WackoWiki EoNy (talk) 18:46, 27 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z","author":"EoNy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EoNy-2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_help_with_WackoWiki_article","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T00:19:00.000Z-EoNy-2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z","c-EoNy-2020-04-28T10:04:00.000Z-EoNy-2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

EoNy, I don't understand what you're asking. Sulfurboy (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T00:19:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T00:19:00.000Z-EoNy-2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sulfurboy, The template your where using for judging the WackoWiki article is not accurate and does not tell me much. There are lots of scientific evidence that help to show the notability of WackoWiki software. I do not understand why sources like ACM, IEEE and others are not sufficiant to show how wackowiki was used to further develop wiki software and other advances in internet technology. Wikipedians wrote a software to convert wackowiki markup to mediawiki, etc.EoNy (talk) 10:04, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T10:04:00.000Z","author":"EoNy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EoNy-2020-04-28T10:04:00.000Z-EoNy-2020-04-27T18:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Editor,

I recently published my first article and it was declined by you. You've mentioned that it might be a paid article, which is not. I have edited a few articles on Sri Lankan athletes in the past and I came across this company on the internet. I thought it is worth the article since the company (from India) has been gaining a lot of attention in the 'Growth Hacking' field. The company has won a few awards in a short time span. Please be kind enough to let me know what I should remove from the content so it could be published. I was excited to publish since it is a company by two Indians who have dominated the market in USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gayesh Senevirathne (talk • contribs) 05:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T05:39:00.000Z","author":"Gayesh Senevirathne","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gayesh_Senevirathne-2020-04-28T05:39:00.000Z-https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Draft:Voxturr","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T13:53:00.000Z-Gayesh_Senevirathne-2020-04-28T05:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gayesh Senevirathne, As already stated in the decline message, notability needs to be shown and the advert nature of the article needs to be corrected. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T13:53:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T13:53:00.000Z-Gayesh_Senevirathne-2020-04-28T05:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, I have completed the draft of PET for bone imaging article. I would ve thankful if you could have a look and provide feedback. Thank you Earthianyogi (talk) 10:40, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z","author":"Earthianyogi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z-\"PET_for_bone_imaging\"_-_Feedback_request","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T13:52:00.000Z-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z","c-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T14:30:00.000Z-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Earthianyogi, The article was already approved so I'm not sure what you're asking here Sulfurboy (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T13:52:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-28T13:52:00.000Z-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sulfurboy, Thanks for the reply. I am not sure if it is already approved as the article page still has the tag, "Review waiting, please be patient." I was asking for your feedback for improving the article. Earthianyogi (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Earthianyogi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T14:30:00.000Z-Earthianyogi-2020-04-28T10:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(Prowords89 (talk) 17:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)) Hi, i have removed wikipedia and leap foundation sources please review my article again.__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Prowords89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prowords89-2020-04-28T17:00:00.000Z-I_have_removed_wikipedia_sources","replies":[]}}-->

Appreciate all of your suggestion on the corrections needed for my newly created contribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rosaline_Okechukwu! I've incorporated those changes and the article is now a much more balanced and cited document. Thanks a lot. Please review again. --Obiscoawire (talk) 22:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC) You're the best!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obiscoawire (talk • contribs) 21:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Obiscoawire","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Obiscoawire-2020-04-28T22:00:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_help!","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Sulfurboy,

I have made edits based on the feedback provided. Also, please know that I am not paid to do this. This is my first attempt at creating a wiki page for someone whose work I am acquainted with and hence creating this wiki. I would be obliged if you could please review the contents and let me know if this submission is better? I have tried and removed all the terminology that was not in the right tone of voice. Thanks so much!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Faizal_Kottikollon

Hello, Sulfurboy

Thank you for creating Drinking Out of Cups.

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Hello Sir , I am new to wikipedia please help me with the article sir Deadeyeltd (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-29T15:54:00.000Z","author":"Deadeyeltd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deadeyeltd-2020-04-29T15:54:00.000Z-Draft_:_Yash_Gupta","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

I created an article about a college softball head coach named Cindy Ball-Malone. I had created other pages just like it that were approved and that one wasn’t and it was deleted. I tried recreating it and got it approved but then it was deleted again because it wasn’t approved the first time or something like that. This coach is now a candidate for a bigger job and I would like to recreate and have it approved without it being deleted. Can you help? Thanks!

Eibln (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-29T19:49:00.000Z","author":"Eibln","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eibln-2020-04-29T19:49:00.000Z-How_can_I_create_an_article_that_was_deleted","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Sulfurboy,

Thank you for the feedback. I am researching in the area of deepfakes, which is a disruptive technology in the age of fake news. Pinscreen has done some notable work in this area and I believe that the company should be listed on Wikipedia. I am not receiving any compensation for this article (neither directly nor indirectly), nor am I affiliated with Pinscreen. Please advise. Also, let me know if okay to further edit the article.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramusgoldfr (talk • contribs) 05:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-30T05:04:00.000Z","author":"Ramusgoldfr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ramusgoldfr-2020-04-30T05:04:00.000Z-https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Draft:Pinscreen,_Inc.","replies":[]}}-->

@Sulfurboy: Thank you for moving "Bilal U. Haq" from my Sandbox to the draft area.

I'm having fun with this strange wiki language.

Best regards.

Sandromaquine (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-30T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Sandromaquine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sandromaquine-2020-04-30T18:51:00.000Z-Draft:Bilal_U._Haq","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-30T20:37:00.000Z-Sandromaquine-2020-04-30T18:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sandromaquine, Sure no problem. If you get stuck with anything, let me know or reach out to the Teahouse WP:TEA which is staffed by experienced editors. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 20:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-30T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-30T20:37:00.000Z-Sandromaquine-2020-04-30T18:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am not paid and I do not have any financial obligations about this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAKANYC (talk • contribs) 22:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-30T22:09:00.000Z","author":"MAKANYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MAKANYC-2020-04-30T22:09:00.000Z-Disclosure","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-30T23:58:00.000Z-MAKANYC-2020-04-30T22:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

MAKANYC, then why did you state that you are in touch with the subjects agent? Sulfurboy (talk) 23:58, 30 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-30T23:58:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-04-30T23:58:00.000Z-MAKANYC-2020-04-30T22:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Sulfurboy: thanks for your comment on Draft:Review 31; I really appreciate your contributions as a master editor. (I used to edit quite a lot anonymously just from my IP address but creating articles has been a learning process for me: it's a level of rigour I really appreciate.) I have been reading up on WP:BOMBARD and, though I am a COI contributor, I have created the article in good faith: I believe we meet the notability threshold in the same way as publications such as 3:AM Magazine with whom we have long-standing associations. I believe the references I have made support the claims in question: I added them as a good faith effort to cite independent sources (the original version consisted almost entirely of citations from our own website) and I am not trying to deceive anyone with the volume or content of the citations. I'm new to creating and I'm really happy to do anything that needs to be done to improve the article in the eyes of senior editors and administrators. For example, references 10-48 are all from our own website - I put them in there purely for verification purposes - but if they are doing more harm than good I am happy to delete them. I note that some literary magazine articles achieve notability but with a much smaller number of citations (Structo, for example, which only has three). I am therefore happy to reduce the number if you feel a smaller number of citations would increase our chances of being accepted. (For example, I feel the Irish Times link is a good example that demonstrates our achievement: I understand the virtues of relying on fewer but better sources.)

I've found the editorial process really interesting and I'd like to create more articles in future: there are many well-regarded British authors, often award-nominated and published on acclaimed small presses, who don't have Wikipedia entries. In this way, I'd love to carry on talking and use the drafting process as a learning opportunity while at the same time increasing the article's chances for approval. FSGCalthorpe (talk) 01:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T01:00:00.000Z","author":"FSGCalthorpe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FSGCalthorpe-2020-05-01T01:00:00.000Z-Draft:Review_31","replies":[]}}-->

An editor has asked for a deletion review of A group where we all pretend to be boomers. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Natureium (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-08T15:04:00.000Z","author":"Natureium","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Natureium-2020-05-08T15:04:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_A_group_where_we_all_pretend_to_be_boomers","replies":[]}}-->

--AmyHarper77 (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)AmyHarper77, 01 May 2020--AmyHarper77 (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T07:53:00.000Z","author":"AmyHarper77","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AmyHarper77-2020-05-01T07:53:00.000Z-Draft:_Martin_Newman","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Sulfurboy,

This is the page in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Martin_Newman

I do work for Martin Newman, yes, but I have been furloughed. I'm occasionally helping them content-wise on a voluntary basis. I believe his page is rather informational and neutral, thus I'd like to understand why it is deemed promotional (apart from the fact I used to work for him).

I'm very new to Wikipedia. Is there a way I could improve my article so that it meets Wikipedia's standards?

Thank you very much for your help and insight!

Kind regards,

AmyHarper77, you need to properly disclose that you have a financial stake per the instructions on the talk page before any further edits. Sulfurboy (talk) 09:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T09:02:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T09:02:00.000Z-Draft:_Martin_Newman","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Sulfurboy,

Thank you for reviewing my draft on Lawrence and Mayo(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lawrence_and_Mayo)and suggesting the additions required in citations. This is my first engagement as a contributor to the Wikipedia community. I had used the references from coverage in independent dailies. Is the coverage in popular news considered as a source for notability? Also,could you please suggest me some other sources that I may look for and how many minimum references are required for the article to qualify?

Thank you for your help!

Regards,

Tarukh Kaul Tarukh Kaul (talk) 11:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T11:38:00.000Z","author":"Tarukh Kaul","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tarukh_Kaul-2020-05-01T11:38:00.000Z-Requesting_Help_Regarding_Notability","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:25:00.000Z-Tarukh_Kaul-2020-05-01T11:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Tarukh Kaul, All the sources you provided are either press releases or cover WP:ROUTINE matters and do not show that the WP:SIGCOV standard of WP:NCORP is met. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:25:00.000Z-Tarukh_Kaul-2020-05-01T11:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Your valuable contributions can certainly not be "ignored", thank you so much. Wouuld need some further guidance from you if I understood you correctly, both articles Draft: Quintessa Swindell and Draft: Archistar (Artificial Intelligence) are both within the scope of the WP:GNG, but they have not been adequately cited (correct me if this understanding is contrary to what to meant).

• Whatever the case is, I request that you take a second look at both articles. I carefully read at least three articles about citations, and I understood that the citations have been adequate, if I uderstood what I read well, Citing 2 or 3 RELIABLE SOURCEs [independent of the subject(s)] is 'more important, than citing 100 unreliable sources.

• For Swindell, I think they are a notable non-binary actor, I read an article somewhere on reliable/perennial sources (sorry I cannot link this page at this time), the article clearly stated that Deadline Hollywood is a reliable source for actors (I cited two articles where they are the SUBJECT of the publication not a passing mention), I need to understand why sources are the reason for the article decline, please I request a re-look at the citations cited for verification, I also read on the same article that Hollywood reporter is a reliable source. I could not find any consensus on Refinary29 but I think it is a reliable source. There is also an interview with GLAAD, a reliable source for LGBT communities. This actor has appeared on Netflix's Trinkets and HBO's Euphoria, and in all honesty, I CHECKED other actors/actresses that are 'par' with Swindell, and I think this page may have been more cited than others..

• For the Archistar, the have been covered by Financial Review (not a passing metion) which is a notable source for Australian financial news, by the Property Council of Australia (also not a passing mention) which is also a government (independent) and reliable source and also by the Australian Society Council (ACS) which was also not a passing mention. Also consider that this article is a 'niche' article an about 3 reliable sources for the Architectural niche were also cited. Archistar is working with the Government of NSW and is a notable Property group in Australia. I humbly suggest that you go through the sources in this article, as Wikipedia RELIABLE SOURCES LIST states that the List is INEXHAUSTIBLE and there are other sites/sources that may be reliable but not 'popularly listed'. In any case, you may further advise.

• Please if this submission may not be reconsidered after verifying those sources, please suggest ways to improve the article to be well poised for a re-submission.

• Thank you.

TheEpistle (talk) 14:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T14:08:00.000Z","author":"TheEpistle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheEpistle-2020-05-01T14:08:00.000Z-Articles_Reviewed","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:29:00.000Z-TheEpistle-2020-05-01T14:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

TheEpistle, For Swindell, multiple unreliable sources are used on the page. I would recommend re-reading WP:RS and correcting that issue. I'm also unsure why you are bringing up other pages. If you think another page is not using reliable sources or is about a subject that isn't notable, then I recommend tagging or nominating those pages appropriately for deletion. This subject currently fully fails WP:NACTOR

For Archistar, the article is sourced with press releases and coverage of WP:ROUTINE matters. Nothing shows that the WP:SIGCOV standard of WP:NCORP is met. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:29:00.000Z-TheEpistle-2020-05-01T14:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheEpistle-2020-05-01T17:19:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you, will take out time to review the articles again to ensure conditions for WP: NACTOR and WP: NCORP are met before re-submission. TheEpistle (talk) 17:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T17:19:00.000Z","author":"TheEpistle","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TheEpistle-2020-05-01T17:19:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-01T16:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Milind4computing (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Swami Keshvanand Institute of Technology, Management & Gramothan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Sulfurboy, Thanks for reviewing Draft:Swami_Keshvanand_Institute_of_Technology,_Management_&_Gramothan.

In the prevailing conditions due to COVID-19, I had some time and started exploring Wikipedia. I'm new to creating articles. As suggested, I have added a few independent sources. Some are books from well-known publishers mentioning the faculty from this college and some are from online news. Can you please have a second review? Thank you.

Milind4computing (talk) 14:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T14:31:00.000Z","author":"Milind4computing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Milind4computing-2020-05-01T14:31:00.000Z-Request_on_14:31:06,_1_May_2020_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Milind4compu","replies":["c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-01T17:57:00.000Z-Milind4computing-2020-05-01T14:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

(by talk reader) @Milind4computing: Declined. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Chris troutman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-01T17:57:00.000Z-Milind4computing-2020-05-01T14:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Sulfurboy, I received your reply to my draft article. Thank you.

Yes I am being paid indirectly for the submission of that profile. We did a website for him and I reluctantly told him i could submit his profile on Wikipedia and get him approved since he is a public officer and could be easily identified or approved.

I was trying to resubmit it in the content/article creation area before I saw your message.

Kindly tell me what to further please.

Thank you so much.

Hello Im corrected a article HK Lovosice. Please give it back Míla česko (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T17:52:00.000Z","author":"M\u00edla \u010desko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-M\u00edla_\u010desko-2020-05-01T17:52:00.000Z-Draft:HK_Lovosice","replies":["c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-01T17:56:00.000Z-M\u00edla_\u010desko-2020-05-01T17:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

(by talk reader) @Míla česko: Declined. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T17:56:00.000Z","author":"Chris troutman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-01T17:56:00.000Z-M\u00edla_\u010desko-2020-05-01T17:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Sulfurboy,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions on my article on Yasir Akhtar. I deeply appreciate. I have removed most of the external links from the article and have completed 70% of the citing. I am still working on it.

Looking forward to your sincere support in future. Ayesha Mallik (talk) 23:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-01T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Ayesha Mallik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ayesha_Mallik-2020-05-01T23:29:00.000Z-misplaced_on_user_page","replies":[]}}-->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alternative_Baseball

This is my first time ever writing a Wikipedia article. Everything listed in this article I cited on this non-profit organization are from independent and reputable sources. Where do I go next and what are some suggestions on what I can do to bring it up to standard? I think it's a worthy cause which is worthy of international attention. It's a service for those with disabilities in areas of America where they have nothing else. Would you care to elaborate more on why it reads like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABrandNewDisease (talk • contribs) 06:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T06:12:00.000Z","author":"ABrandNewDisease","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T06:12:00.000Z-Alternative_Baseball","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T06:16:00.000Z-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T06:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

The entire article is about the organization from the view of the organization. That's not what Wikipedia does. We provide third party coverage of an organization. I know you probably put a lot of work into the article, but creating articles is one of the most difficult tasks someone can undertake. However, from top to bottom the article reads like an advert. If you can't see this, then you might have a WP:COI that makes it seem more neutral than it is. There is a lot of puffery and undue praise, particularly for the founder, Taylor. It at times feels like a WP:COATRACK attempt to praise that person more than actually talk about the organization. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T06:16:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T06:16:00.000Z-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T06:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• ABrandNewDisease (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Alternative Baseball (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

You're being very rude right now, sir. I don't appreciate you I left you a message asking you a simple question. I got a second opinion from another Wikipedia member who did not think is an advertisement article. Where do I go to look at the policies in order to improve chances of the article being accepted? ABrandNewDisease (talk) 07:35, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T07:35:00.000Z","author":"ABrandNewDisease","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T07:35:00.000Z-Request_on_07:35:59,_2_May_2020_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_ABrandNewDis","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T19:54:00.000Z-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T07:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

ABrandNewDisease, Nothing I've said or done would be classified as rude. Wikipedia is a process and at times a tough one. If having your work declined, edited, modified or otherwise rejected is something that you take personal, then maybe it isn't for you. There's already links provided in both of the decline messages on the page. All articles on Wikipedia have to be dispassionate, impersonal and formal. Your article lacks all three of these attributes. You have a very obvious WP:COI with this subject which I assume is why you are taking things so personal. I would recommend in the future not writing articles about subjects you have a COI with. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T19:54:00.000Z-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-02T07:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I request that you reverse your closure here. AfD is not a vote and the keep voters have not presented any substantial coverage that would merit keeping the article according to GNG. buidhe 07:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T07:39:00.000Z","author":"Buidhe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buidhe-2020-05-02T07:39:00.000Z-Non-admin_closure","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T07:50:00.000Z-Buidhe-2020-05-02T07:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"b"}}-->

Buidhe, Four keep votes from experienced editors including two admins. Zero objections from anyone except you, the nom. One of the easiest closures I've ever done. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 07:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T07:50:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T07:50:00.000Z-Buidhe-2020-05-02T07:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Androidpar (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Camp Kaiora (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your comments on my draft article on Camp Kaiora. I must have been unclear in some way, for you to question the notability of the subject. I can understand why Wikipedia cannot fill the cloud with articles that no one will ever read, but this is not the case here. The book by Bond et al. (ref. 1), although it was written many years after the closure of the camp, nevertheless devotes a paragraph to the camp, and points out that it was one of the first camps to involve progressive education, and one of the first to admit both girls and boys. I did not directly quote the relevant paragraph from the book because the authors had misspelled the name of the camp, as Kaoria (I was planning to include a redirect when the article was accepted) but clearly they thought that it was an important institution. Camp Kaiora is mentioned in several issues of the annual booklet by Porter Sargent on summer camps, which was published in the 1920s and 1930s as a help for parents choosing a camp. The camp features in the description of an incident involving the daughter of the author John Cheever (ref. 5). I found more than one article from a local newspaper mentioning children planning to attend the camp (ref 6). The camp ran for many years so it is likely that well over 1000 children attended over the years, and some of these may wonder, in their retirement, what became of Miss Sheridan’s Camp Kaiora, and would be pleased to find a brief discussion in Wikipedia. This subject is certainly notable. The article is surely suitable for inclusion in category:defunct summer camps. Androidpar (talk) 16:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Androidpar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Androidpar-2020-05-02T16:04:00.000Z-Request_on_16:04:34,_2_May_2020_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Androidpar","replies":[]}}-->

Androidpar (talk) 16:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Androidpar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Androidpar-2020-05-02T16:04:00.000Z-Request_on_16:04:34,_2_May_2020_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Androidpar-1","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Sulfurboy,

Hope you are well. Sorry, by mistake; I have written my reply and thanks on your User page. Thank you for your kind suggestions for my draft on Yasir Akhtar. I have removed all the external links from the article and have placed them on the bottom in the section 'External links'. I have done 70% of the citing and will complete the article in few days.

Thank you again for your kind support and help. Ayesha Ayesha Mallik (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Ayesha Mallik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ayesha_Mallik-2020-05-02T19:44:00.000Z-Thank_you_and_apologies","replies":[]}}-->

Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Delta_Police_Board

Thank you so much for helping me out with this. I appreciate it.

I replied to the first editor who flagged a suspected conflict of interest. I have no connection to Delta Police Board or Delta Police. I am a returning to the workforce (full-time Mum) and am studying PR/Communications with UVic. I live in North Delta and I wanted to gain an insiders understanding of Wikipedia as it is so important to our media-life.

I have checked details with DPD and I now understand that wasn't correct. I apologize.

Please can I check a couple of things with you.

I want to make the page more interesting with history that I can only get through speaking with either the Delta Police Public Affairs or accessing the archives held in the Ladner Community Office which is currently closed due to Covid19. Many of our elder community members have served on the Board over the last few decades and I was hoping to update the entry as I interviewed them/found out more from the archives. Is there a way to meet Wiki's standards and access the information that the Department has?

Again, I am really sorry I messed up. Thank you for your patience. I love Wiki and I'm super impressed by the standards that are so closely followed. That's important to know as a (wannabe) PR/Communication professional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASulfurboy&action=edit&section=new

KateMcKenna28 2 May 2020 [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by KateMcKenna28 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T21:18:00.000Z","author":"KateMcKenna28","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KateMcKenna28-2020-05-02T21:18:00.000Z-Draft:_Delta_Police_BoardKate_21:18,_2_May_2020_(UTC)KateMcKenna28_2_May_2020","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T21:35:00.000Z-KateMcKenna28-2020-05-02T21:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

KateMcKenna28, So we've got a few things wrong here. First, PR writing is generally frowned upon and is subject to myriad regulations, see WP:PAID. So if you are attempting to hone your PR skills, Wikipedia isn't the place for it. There is plenty of other outlets for helping to promote a business or organization. Wikipedia is meant be formal, dispassionate, impersonal and neutral; traits that are hard to achieve when someone is writing with an ulterior motive such as honing skills or being paid for edits.

Secondly, your personal interviews with members of the board would not be considered a reliable source. Please see WP:RS for what we deem to be a reliable source.

Lastly, and most importantly. The subject you are writing about would not be considered notable. The police department itself would be considered notable (and it already has a page), but an admin board of a municipal police department would not be. Even large departments, think NYPD or RMCP for example, do not have pages for their boards. This is because all subjects have to pass the WP:NORG standard which requires WP:SIGCOV to be shown. In particular, notability would have to be established completely independent of the police force itself. This won't be the case with this subject. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:35, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T21:35:00.000Z-KateMcKenna28-2020-05-02T21:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

My apologies for my frustration earlier. No hard feelings. I've gotten some help from the Live Chat who's given me better understanding in simpler terms and have helped me edit the article to make sure it falls under the guidelines. There is no COI. This is just my first article and I care a lot about doing a good job. I think we've got it now. Would you mind revisiting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABrandNewDisease (talk • contribs) 01:42, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T01:42:00.000Z","author":"ABrandNewDisease","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ABrandNewDisease-2020-05-03T01:42:00.000Z-Alternative_Baseball_reply","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Sulfurboy,

I am reaching out to you regarding my Draft:Kobo360 submission which you declined on 21 April. You mentioned it was because the nature of my edits gave the impression that I have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting the company. I can confirm that this is untrue. I'm Nigerian and have a keen interest in the Nigerian tech space on the continent and want to ensure that some of my favourite African companies and personalities who are doing exceptional things are well represented on this platform. I was recently furloughed because of the current coronavirus situation and therefore decided to use my free time to write articles on this platform. I will see what others have done on Wiki and make edits necessary, but if there's anything else you suggest I do, please let me know. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by MariaWimbart (talk • contribs) 14:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T14:22:00.000Z","author":"MariaWimbart","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MariaWimbart-2020-05-02T14:22:00.000Z-Draft:Kobo360","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T19:59:00.000Z-MariaWimbart-2020-05-02T14:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

MariaWimbart, You do realize that your username is MariaWimbart right? And that Google exists. Which tells me Wimbart is a PR company that specializes in emerging markets in Africa, which is exactly what this article is about... Sulfurboy (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-02T19:59:00.000Z-MariaWimbart-2020-05-02T14:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Greetings Sulfurboy, Need your assistance on creating this page,. i went to an international business forum, by Tamil Nadu Business Forum. hosted by Professors and Historians,. they were talking about the First Factory in India . Madras . I did find few articles in The Hindu New Paper . 2nd largest Publication in India . Tamil Nadu . so wondering why this historic news is missing in Wikipedia . I wish to have the article developed . I did attach the article Ref URL in article . Please assist, thank you.

Rajeevtco (talk) 03:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T03:38:00.000Z","author":"Rajeevtco","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rajeevtco-2020-05-03T03:38:00.000Z-https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Draft:Madras_Pencil_Factory","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T12:02:00.000Z-Rajeevtco-2020-05-03T03:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Rajeevtco, Please read the linked policies in the decline message. One source isn't going to demonstrate notability Sulfurboy (talk) 12:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T12:02:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T12:02:00.000Z-Rajeevtco-2020-05-03T03:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your review. I understand the requirements needed to write a good Wikipedia article now. Jojo.nguyennga (talk) 16:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Jojo.nguyennga","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jojo.nguyennga-2020-05-03T16:18:00.000Z-Some_baklava_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Sulfurboy,

I was trying to update some information on the page Draft:Keiya_Kato i created for one of Japan's Business tycoon , Please let me know what information needs to added to make the page live and to get it approved. I'm having difficulty in finding the reason.

Please mail me at [email protected] if you need to discuss something on the respective page.

The article has been rejected, which means it will not be considered further at this time. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T18:23:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T18:23:00.000Z-Regarding_Kato_Kei_Article","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for reviewing Draft:List of Korea Image Awards Winners. You have rejected my submission saying that mu submission do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. But it is a very similiar topic to this article page List of South Korean actresses, both a list of renown Korean people and Draft:List of Korea Image Awards Winners covers some important people who contributes to Korea's Image in the world. Why can that list be included but not this one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.239.157.198 (talk) 13:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T13:49:00.000Z","author":"43.239.157.198","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-43.239.157.198-2020-05-03T13:49:00.000Z-Draft:List_of_Korea_Image_Awards_Winners","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T18:24:00.000Z-43.239.157.198-2020-05-03T13:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

As stated in the decline message, if an award is not wikinotable, then a page listing its winners isn't going to be notable either. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T18:24:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T18:24:00.000Z-43.239.157.198-2020-05-03T13:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for taking time to respond to my queries. I have one more question here. Before creating the draft, I went through improving pages of several pages under this category: 'British spiritual writers'. I noticed most of the citations we have are either their books or articles written by them. Here are few examples: William Bloom, Cher Chevalier and Cassandra Eason. How do we deal with stuff like this? I also asked this question to MurielMary but I'd like to get your opinion too. Lunar Clock (talk) 21:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Lunar Clock","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z-Further_discussion","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T22:52:00.000Z-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z","c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T23:14:00.000Z-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Lunar Clock, Yikes, many of those are very problematic. I'm going over them now. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T22:52:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T22:52:00.000Z-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Lunar Clock, I've proposed deletion on all three. There's actually a lot of very trouble articles in that category. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T23:14:00.000Z-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-03T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-04T07:22:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T23:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you for clearing that up. That was much necessary cleanup. Lunar Clock (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T07:22:00.000Z","author":"Lunar Clock","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lunar_Clock-2020-05-04T07:22:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T23:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, The content I recently submitted for review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Neogi007/sandbox, have been declined and the reason given was that there is a duplicate content which is also waiting for review would be reviewed instead so, just wanted to know the link or the user name of the duplicate content so that I can change mine.

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Neogi007, The link is right there in the decline message. Sulfurboy (talk) 07:39, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T07:39:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T07:39:00.000Z-Neogi007-2020-05-04T07:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Sulffurboy, I am so sorry for bothering you and I know you have to go through many pages. It is my first article in English and I would like to develop it much better. I am talking about this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rebal_Alkhodari

My question is; I already added many sources to my article (37 ones) and there are 4 or 5 of them (Discogs or Social media). So, What should I do if I don't find another source? Should I delete the sentence which is taken from this resource Or just takes the source out and keep it without this source?

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuher Amr (talk • contribs) 04:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T04:42:00.000Z","author":"Zuher Amr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zuher_Amr-2020-05-04T04:42:00.000Z-Advice_how_to_fix_my_article_after_your_review","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z-Zuher_Amr-2020-05-04T04:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Zuher Amr, Discogs and social media are not reliable sources. Discogs in particular is sourced from user submitted information making it completely unverifiable. If you can't find a reliable source for information in your article, then it needs to be removed. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 07:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z-Zuher_Amr-2020-05-04T04:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I am writing because my article on Lena Yarinkura was decline because of a duplicate. I checked the duplicate and it has 0 information on it and I believe was accidentally submitted by the person I am working with this on. How do I make sure the proper article is reviewed and not denied for being a duplicate? Thank you for the help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cm4px/sandbox

Mcpersons (talk) 05:55, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T05:55:00.000Z","author":"Mcpersons","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mcpersons-2020-05-04T05:55:00.000Z-Request_on_05:55:15,_4_May_2020_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mcpersons","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z-Mcpersons-2020-05-04T05:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mcpersons, You just need to copy over your information from the sandbox to the draft article. Please in the future be more mindful of creating duplicate submissions. It seems you and the person you are working with did it on multiple articles. Sulfurboy (talk) 07:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T07:41:00.000Z-Mcpersons-2020-05-04T05:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Why ? can't I ask his agent about his previous experience with actors or what? maybe there is rule about that too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAKANYC (talk • contribs) 01:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T01:27:00.000Z","author":"MAKANYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MAKANYC-2020-05-05T01:27:00.000Z-follow_up","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-05T01:30:00.000Z-MAKANYC-2020-05-05T01:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

MAKANYC, Because we are here to build an encyclopedia. We are not here to help agents and their proxies promote someone. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T01:30:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-05T01:30:00.000Z-MAKANYC-2020-05-05T01:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

They're much better ways to promote than Wikipedia, and trust me I'm not here for the promo. When I will have reliable secondary source material I will resubmit. Thanks sulfurboy — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAKANYC (talk • contribs) 01:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T01:35:00.000Z","author":"MAKANYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MAKANYC-2020-05-05T01:35:00.000Z-replay","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Sulfurboy,

I wish to know why my page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Disney_Holes was declined,

I spent hours working on it, Please Reply ASAP

--Victoria & Landmarks (talk) 05:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-11T05:19:00.000Z","author":"Victoria & Landmarks","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Victoria_&_Landmarks-2020-05-11T05:19:00.000Z-Victoria_&_Landmarks","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-11T05:22:00.000Z-Victoria_&_Landmarks-2020-05-11T05:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Victoria & Landmarks, Because an article about the subject already exists. You're welcome to edit the existing article and improve it. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-11T05:22:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-11T05:22:00.000Z-Victoria_&_Landmarks-2020-05-11T05:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-05-11T22:34:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-11T05:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Courtesy post - I'm assuming the article in question is this one. Holes (film) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-11T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-05-11T22:34:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-11T05:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'm considerably behind, and am mainly involved at the moment in writing a workshop proposed decision for the medicine arb com case, so I very much appreciate the help you are giving me in answering questions at my talk page/ And I am of course not exactly working efficiently at the moment--it seems much more satisfying to deal with pur eroutine than on anything that takes the effort of thinking. . DGG ( talk ) 09:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T09:36:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DGG-2020-05-03T09:36:00.000Z-thanks_for_the_help","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T09:59:00.000Z-DGG-2020-05-03T09:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

DGG, No problem. I saw your replies on a few of the comments that you were busy. I hope everything is okay. I'll try to keep an eye out for routine stuff that I can answer, particularly AfC related stuff. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 09:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T09:59:00.000Z-DGG-2020-05-03T09:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-DGG-2020-05-03T22:44:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T09:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

There are no medical or economic problems with me or any of my family. But I do live in NYC, and my world has changed--almost everything that made it important to me to be in NYC has disappeared and I am not sure how much of it will ever return. DGG ( talk ) 22:44, 3 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-03T22:44:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DGG-2020-05-03T22:44:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-03T09:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:47:00.000Z-DGG-2020-05-03T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

DGG, Well please stay safe. I can't even imagine the chaos that you've had to go through. I'm worried people are going to get to lax about this and we're going to see a second wave. Let me know if I can help with anything. I'm working from home for the time being, so I have quite a bit of extra time on my hands. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:47:00.000Z-DGG-2020-05-03T22:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-DGG-2020-05-05T05:23:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

unfortunately, we shall see another wave in the Fall or Winter no matter what happens in the meantime--it is epidemiologically inevitable, regardless of the assumptions--the best that can be hoped for is a widely-distributed effective vaccine for 2021. But what you and I are worried about now is more accurately a resurgence of the present wave, keeping it at a substantial level all through the summer. The question is whether the 20% of people who are too stupid to realize it is high enough to contaminate the rest of us. DGG ( talk ) 05:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T05:23:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-DGG-2020-05-05T05:23:00.000Z-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello @sulfurboy

Why did you delete the Hoganhost article ,is a nice and notable article but you deleted it, is very bad of you, from our view Wikipedia do not have any Nigeria hosting company article which the have succeeded to create one but you deleted it ,is not fair please , kindly look in to this issue again and resolve it has an expert that you are, Wikipedia is to contribute relevant article that will help user not for your own satisfaction but to the user's

Look in to Hoganhost issue again, cause me I want to create same article but for another Nigeria hosting company,thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atim2019 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T09:30:00.000Z","author":"Atim2019","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atim2019-2020-05-04T09:30:00.000Z-Is_very_Bad_of_You","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:48:00.000Z-Atim2019-2020-05-04T09:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Atim2019, I don't delete articles. I'm not an admin. You would need to speak to whichever admin deleted your article. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-04T23:48:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-04T23:48:00.000Z-Atim2019-2020-05-04T09:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Check you mark an article Not Notable ,once check it again and the article name is Hoganhost, publish the article cause Wikipedia don't have any article about Nigeria hosting company — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atim2019 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T07:55:00.000Z","author":"Atim2019","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atim2019-2020-05-05T07:55:00.000Z-Is_very_Bad_of_You","replies":["c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-05T12:48:00.000Z-Atim2019-2020-05-05T07:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

(by talk reader) @Atim2019: Wikipedia doesn't need an article about everything that ever existed. If we wanted an article about Hoganhost, we'd write it. As it is, we don't care about that company that you're trying to promote. Chris Troutman (talk) 12:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T12:48:00.000Z","author":"Chris troutman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chris_troutman-2020-05-05T12:48:00.000Z-Atim2019-2020-05-05T07:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

So Now, Kindly Help me Which Nigeria Hosting Company, can i write or create article for ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atim2019 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC) (talk page stalker) Now deleted. Fixed by removing fake/bad sources and tagging for G11. As Sulfurboy's original analysis pointed out, the RS were inadequate.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 15:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T00:02:00.000Z","author":"Atim2019","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atim2019-2020-05-06T00:02:00.000Z-Is_very_Bad_of_You","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, thanks for your help, could you indicate where in the article Chachaco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cachaco ) you think the referencing should be improved?

Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BGT1538 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T20:40:00.000Z","author":"BGT1538","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGT1538-2020-05-05T20:40:00.000Z-Referencing","replies":["c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-06T01:55:00.000Z-BGT1538-2020-05-05T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

BGT1538, Looks like multiple sources are blog posts which aren't considered reliable as they typically do not have any oversight. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:55, 6 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T01:55:00.000Z","author":"Sulfurboy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sulfurboy-2020-05-06T01:55:00.000Z-BGT1538-2020-05-05T20:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->