User talk:Ryulong/Archive 43
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...Mr. Zhane sounds reasonable. ;) JPG-GR (talk) 02:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-05T02:35:00.000Z","author":"JPG-GR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JPG-GR-2009-12-05T02:35:00.000Z-I_don't_know...","replies":[]}}-->
- I prefer "Señor Dillon" over "Senior Dillon" myself.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at my watchlist and I see an IP moved the hidden message in the episodes section of the Power Rangers: RPM article, so as today would be the day that the title for episodes 29 and 30 would be on TV Guide.com, I go to the TV Guide link and I see someone linked it to the episode list when they should have it to the TV listings (as the episode list only list episodes that have aired not episodes that will air, the TV listings list episodes that will air). So I go back to the Power Rangers: RPM article to fix the link and then I see that you reverted the IP good faith non-vandalism edit as vandalism. Since the TV Guide link was not linked to the right page, I'm not going to report you this time but this is the final warning, the next I see you revert a good faith non-vandalism edit as vandalism I will report you and you may have your Twinkle rights taken away. Powergate92Talk 20:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-05T20:53:00.000Z","author":"Powergate92","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Powergate92-2009-12-05T20:53:00.000Z-Power_Rangers:_RPM_episodes","replies":["c-TheGrimReaper_NS-2009-12-12T11:22:00.000Z-Powergate92-2009-12-05T20:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
- First of all, **** off. Second, the reference I checked (which was the only one on the page at the time) did not list either of the two episodes and the article has had a history of IP users coming along and revealing all of the episodes based off of the rumors that go around in the fan community. And I also went to the IP's talk page to leave a detailed message as to why I reverted. Don't you dare be an ******* to me like Mythdon was when it came to my use of rollback.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- There is no way to remove Twinkle rights as they are just simple JavaScript scripts which can be added to a .js page unless there is an official ban preventing a user from doing so or if an administrator removes Twinkle and locks the .js file. Ryūlóng isn't even a rollbacker, he just has the Twinkle scripts included into his .js files. And these sorts of things are often seen as mistakes and the oversighters delete the revisions (I know this via Soxred93's edit counter and other tools). Secondly, I believe so-caled good-faith edits can be reverted if they do not add good content to the article, which includes adding rumours. --TheGrimReaper 11:22, 12 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-12T11:22:00.000Z","author":"TheGrimReaper NS","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TheGrimReaper_NS-2009-12-12T11:22:00.000Z-Powergate92-2009-12-05T20:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}-->
Regarding your "returning vandal," if you want action against this IP, you're going to have to document the history, as this particular IP has a very short record. --Orlady (talk) 04:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-07T04:19:00.000Z","author":"Orlady","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:19:00.000Z-WP:AIV","replies":["c-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:38:00.000Z-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
- There has been systematic abuse from an individual in Singapore on the SingNet ISP not limited to the following:
- All IPs belong to the same ISP and all have similar edits to the topic area introducing false information and taunting other users (myself mainly).—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. That helps a lot. I see similarities, but I'm asking JakeWartenburg to weigh in, since he seems to have some history with this crowd. --Orlady (talk) 04:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-07T04:38:00.000Z","author":"Orlady","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:38:00.000Z-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Orlady-2009-12-07T05:03:00.000Z-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
- In JW's absence, I issued a short block. --Orlady (talk) 05:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-07T05:03:00.000Z","author":"Orlady","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Orlady-2009-12-07T05:03:00.000Z-Orlady-2009-12-07T04:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
This template is simply a token, you need it on your talk page, not transcluded. In other words it has no magic, categories etc., conforming bots simply look for it on the page they are editing and act accordingly. Rich Farmbrough, 15:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-08T15:04:00.000Z","author":"Rich Farmbrough","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rich_Farmbrough-2009-12-08T15:04:00.000Z-{{Bots}}","replies":[],"displayName":"Rich"}}-->
- Oh. Damn it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Why did you change Bakuryū to Bakuryuu, when Bakuryū is the official spelling, as can be seen here ?
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- I didn't.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Then, what is this ?
- (I know, that was some time ago, but I only found out recently).
- Masorick (talk) 02:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-09T02:15:00.000Z","author":"Masorick","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masorick-2009-12-09T02:15:00.000Z-Masorick-2009-12-09T01:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- It's been fixed.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a response to your comment. My understanding of the Japanese MOS is correct just because you prefer the title capitalized doesn't mean I am getting the words of MOS:J mixed up. Now on to the tags, I see no point of you removing the tags. They are completely valid. The article needs to be expanded AND it needs more references. Same with "Stay the Decade Alive". Also if the guidelines set by MOS:J about caps aren't good enough for you see, WP:CAPS and MOS:TM. MS (Talk|Contributions) 00:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-10T00:35:00.000Z","author":"MS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MS-2009-12-10T00:35:00.000Z-Setsugetsuka_(The_End_of_Silence)\/Zan_and_Stay_the_Decade_Alive","replies":[]}}-->
- I had rolled back the edits because I thought you were the one to change "Setsugetsuka" to "Setsugekka". I did not realize until afterwards that your edits were to change "ZAN" to "Zan".—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Also the {{refimprove}} tag is needed on the "Stay the Decade Alive" article. There is no source to prove that it is being used as "THEME SONG FOR A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE" nor is there a source confirming the release formats. And as a past admin you should know saying that "will likely expand soon" is not a acceptable nor valid reason for removing the {{expand}} tag. MS (Talk|Contributions) 00:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-10T00:48:00.000Z","author":"MS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MS-2009-12-10T00:48:00.000Z-Setsugetsuka_(The_End_of_Silence)\/Zan_and_Stay_the_Decade_Alive","replies":["c-MS-2009-12-10T01:02:00.000Z-MS-2009-12-10T00:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
- The entire article says it is the theme song for a major motion picture. And the only reference in the article clearly states all of the information you think is unreferenced. It is a stub. There is no need to have a separate {{expand}} tag on it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Then to easily solve the unreferenced, why not say that earlier or use <ref name=> so it covers every bit of detail? Just because it is a stub does not mean anything. Stubs can be expanded you know. MS (Talk|Contributions) 01:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-10T01:02:00.000Z","author":"MS","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MS-2009-12-10T01:02:00.000Z-MS-2009-12-10T00:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- I've added more references.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Took you advice, but wonder if you could help me out on User:Fractyl/Tensō_Sentai_Goseiger? Note, I intend the page to last until the series airs.Fractyl (talk) 05:26, 12 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-12T05:26:00.000Z","author":"Fractyl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fractyl-2009-12-12T05:26:00.000Z-Goseiger","replies":["c-Fractyl-2009-12-12T23:11:00.000Z-Fractyl-2009-12-12T05:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Thank you very much for helping me out on this early draft. Fractyl (talk) 23:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-12T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Fractyl","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fractyl-2009-12-12T23:11:00.000Z-Fractyl-2009-12-12T05:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
FYI - Talk page blanking is not prohibited. Please take a look at WP:BLANKING. Thank you. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 01:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T01:29:00.000Z","author":"Tcncv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tcncv-2009-12-17T01:29:00.000Z-Talk_page_blanking","replies":["c-Tcncv-2009-12-17T01:49:00.000Z-Tcncv-2009-12-17T01:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Tom\u00a0N\u00a0(tcncv)"}}-->
- It is when it's replaced with "YO LEAVE A MESSAGE HERE OR MY MYSPACE OR FACEBOOK HOLLA BACK" on an IP talk page.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:31, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- True. Perhaps removing that inappropriate comment might have ended the encounter by not giving the attention they seemed to be seeking. In any case, I did not realize you were veteran editor when I left the above note. If I had, I wouldn't have pointed out something you likely already knew. Thanks for your contributions. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 01:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T01:49:00.000Z","author":"Tcncv","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tcncv-2009-12-17T01:49:00.000Z-Tcncv-2009-12-17T01:29:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Tom\u00a0N\u00a0(tcncv)"}}-->
Hey there. I saw your interaction with user "Tenswords" about the whole Shinjuken ryu debacle.
In the interaction, cached here, he claims that Diane Skoss of Koryu.com is currently writing a book which contains 136 pages of Shinjuken history and so forth. I can confirm that this is utter Bullcrap. I contacted Diane Skoss and she isn't writing any book containing Shinjuken history. In fact she hasn't even heard of it. Meik Skoss, her husband and equal in scholarship, were skeptical to put it nicely about Shinjuken ryu claims.
I have also checked the source-claims for Shinjuken. In the Shinjuken article the author have claimed Watananis book as a source, for Shinjukens claims. This is false. The Watanani book says nothing about Shinjuken. See this webforum for a discussion on Shinjuken including Diane Skoss confirmation that she is not involved in any book project: [E-budo.com forum http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44656] (You have to register in order to view it).
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- Thank you for this information. I was not even aware that the page was still up.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:22, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ryulong! I just finished reading your interaction with the above-captioned IP editor. It must have truly tried your patience! What I cannot quite figure out is why you engaged him in the first place. Why did you not just template him, escalating from {{Uw-delete1}} through to {{Uw-delete4}}, and then report him to WP:AIV? It would have been far less stressful for you. In any event, I could “feel your pain”† as I read the interaction. You have my sympathies. — SpikeToronto 22:23, 17 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T22:23:00.000Z","author":"SpikeToronto","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SpikeToronto-2009-12-17T22:23:00.000Z-Conspiracy_Theories_&_89.164.16.105","replies":[],"displayName":"Spike"}}-->
- †As Clinton used to say!
- Because I tried to converse with him as he's been an issue with these articles for some time, it seems.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Mind helping me with this? AlienX2009 (talk) 22:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T22:46:00.000Z","author":"AlienX2009","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AlienX2009-2009-12-17T22:46:00.000Z-help","replies":["c-AlienX2009-2009-12-17T23:32:00.000Z-AlienX2009-2009-12-17T22:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
- It's "Bike Form" and don't refer to Decade.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- okay. AlienX2009 (talk) 23:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T23:32:00.000Z","author":"AlienX2009","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AlienX2009-2009-12-17T23:32:00.000Z-AlienX2009-2009-12-17T22:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
"Thank you for notifying me of this fact. If you could, perhaps, look at other martial arts styles that have Wikipedia pages and point out which ones are completely and absolutely fake, it would help Wikipedia.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)"__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-17T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Ryulong","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ryulong-2009-12-17T19:48:00.000Z-Shinjuken_ryu","replies":["c-Fred26-2009-12-19T18:00:00.000Z-Ryulong-2009-12-17T19:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ry\u016bl\u00f3ng"}}-->
- You are welcome. If you handle all fake & mcdojo articles as effective as Shinjuken ryu then I'll be happy to relate such articles to you. Fred26 (talk) 18:00, 19 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-19T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Fred26","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fred26-2009-12-19T18:00:00.000Z-Ryulong-2009-12-17T19:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- I will definitely take care of them as quickly as possible.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Much the same, but in far more civil terminology, might be directed toward you for placing the comment on an Admin Board - although anywhere would not be considered the wisest move ever. Just warnsaying. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-20T22:44:00.000Z","author":"LessHeard vanU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LessHeard_vanU-2009-12-20T22:44:00.000Z-Not_great","replies":[]}}-->
- The thread is bad and he should feel bad.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Would it be acceptable for me or someone else to tag this whole AN/I fiasco as resolved? There doesn't seem to be any interest in any kind of administrative action at the thread other than maybe a discussion of whether or not LBHSC should be banned (in which case I'd like to be taken out of the hotseat here; I'm tired of being on trial here). Thanks. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 02:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-21T02:47:00.000Z","author":"PCHS-NJROTC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PCHS-NJROTC-2009-12-21T02:47:00.000Z-AN\/I_Fiasco","replies":[]}}-->
- If you stop commenting, it will eventually be archived.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for hat/hab'ing that. I don't think it will stop the constant addition of other discussions by DC on the subject, but it is a start. Again, thanks. Merry Christmas...NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-25T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-25T04:53:00.000Z-Proposal_to_ban_User:PCHS-NJROTC_on_ANI","replies":[]}}-->
- No problem.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Looks like DC has returned from Christmas break and is threatening to restart his post on User:PCHS-NJROTC. I think it is time to start a post of our own on DC for his continous and blatant harrassment and disruption...plus trying the patience of the community. DC needs to start 2010 with a nice block, about 2 weeks worth. I have told him if he start another post on User:PCHS-NJROTC, I will start a post of my own on him. Since you have been dealing with this situation longer than I have, I ask for your help in forming that post. If you wish to stay out of it, I can understand that. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T00:35:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:35:00.000Z-Delicious_Carbuncle","replies":["c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:37:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I'm in the middle of article writing. I'll trust your judgement.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Okie Dokie...I will link you to the post when I am done if you wish to make comments. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T00:37:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:37:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Delicious_carbuncle-2009-12-29T05:36:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Neutralhomer, I am not threatening anything. I will start a new thread about a topic ban for PCHS-NJROTC, when I believe people have returned from their holidays and it will receive the attention it deserves. If you two wish to start a discussion about the previous threads or my behaviour in general, please go ahead. I have had enough of your attempts to stifle discussion and/or misdirect attention onto me. I am not prepared to accept any premature collapsing, archiving, or any other interference from you with threads that I start. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 05:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T05:36:00.000Z","author":"Delicious carbuncle","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Delicious_carbuncle-2009-12-29T05:36:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T00:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T06:12:00.000Z-Delicious_carbuncle-2009-12-29T05:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Sounds like a threat to me. When post your new thread, I will archive it instantly. No questions asked. This needs to come to a very quick end. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 06:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T06:12:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2009-12-29T06:12:00.000Z-Delicious_carbuncle-2009-12-29T05:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hey. I came across this interview by Eddie Guzelian (sadly, you have to create an account to view it), showrunner for the first half of RPM. It has some interesting stuff, including the fact that he wrote RPM as if it was based outside of PR continuity. However, since the interview was done by the forum, I wanted to get your opinion on whether it is RS before adding stuff in. Ωphois 17:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Ophois","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ophois-2009-12-29T17:22:00.000Z-RPM_interview","replies":["c-ArcAngel-2009-12-30T20:19:00.000Z-Ophois-2009-12-29T17:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03a9"}}-->
- I don't know if it can be used as a reliable source, sorry.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- I thought there was a policy somewhere (that I can't find right now) that says registration/subscription-based sources cannot be used? I know for a fact that forum postings cannot be used as sources, with regards to self-published sources, but don't know if that applies here. ArcAngel (talk) 20:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-30T20:19:00.000Z","author":"ArcAngel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ArcAngel-2009-12-30T20:19:00.000Z-Ophois-2009-12-29T17:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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