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Your help with this draft would be most welcome! Dreadstar † 08:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-01T08:39:00.000Z","author":"Dreadstar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dreadstar-2008-02-01T08:39:00.000Z-Help_Odyssey","replies":[]}}-->

The 'references', to mainstream papers are misleading, as some of them I think don't mention Reed at all. In your opinion, do you think this bloke is notable under wiki's stringent criteria? His books are self-published. Merkinsmum 22:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-04T22:50:00.000Z","author":"Merkinsmum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Merkinsmum-2008-02-04T22:50:00.000Z-John_T._Reed","replies":["c-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:05:00.000Z-Merkinsmum-2008-02-04T22:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

How are you, Rray? If you fancied a good row, you could try to reform recovered memory therapy and related articles, lolol :) Merkinsmum 00:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-05T00:05:00.000Z","author":"Merkinsmum","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:05:00.000Z-Merkinsmum-2008-02-04T22:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:10:00.000Z-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

I will let Reed off lol. I know it's a very poor criteria compared to wikipedia standards, but if something has a fair few thousand google hits I tend to want it to stay. On the other hand, I 'enjoy' deleting articles, maybe it makes my bitterness about my first article, which was deleted, ease.:) Merkinsmum 00:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-05T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Merkinsmum","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:10:00.000Z-Merkinsmum-2008-02-05T00:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've re-added the advantage play strategy to slots but WITHOUT the link. I understand where your coming from, so I've removed the link. But I do believe the slots section is lacking in what people are looking for when they are looking for info on slots and so I believe a little about slots strategy does add value to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LuckyLove8 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-05T05:31:00.000Z","author":"LuckyLove8","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LuckyLove8-2008-02-05T05:31:00.000Z-Slots_Strategy","replies":[]}}-->

Greetings Rray! A little while ago you mentioned something about getting back issues of Different Worlds. I don't have anything specific in mind at the moment, but I happened to run across a list of some interviews that were supposed to have been in this magazine, interviews with people like Marc W. Miller, Steve Jackson, David A. Hargrave, etc. Being reminded of your message to me earlier, I thought make a suggestion of adding some appropriate material to these people's bios to help with their notability. Some game designers are better known than others, of course, but any references that can be added will help (at some point) if/when editors think these articles are up to snuff (notability-wise). I don't know the exact publisher of Different Worlds but for anyone who's not affiliated with those publishers, such references can't do anything to hurt in this arena. Cheers! --Craw-daddy | T | 23:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-14T23:31:00.000Z","author":"Craw-daddy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Craw-daddy-2008-02-14T23:31:00.000Z-Different_Worlds_refs","replies":["c-Rray-2008-02-14T23:32:00.000Z-Craw-daddy-2008-02-14T23:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"--Craw-daddy"}}-->

Interesting. I was just thinking about you. Different Worlds was published by Chaosium but covered the entire RPG industry. (And it covered a lot of miniature, wargame, and boardgame stuff too.) Rray (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-14T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Rray","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rray-2008-02-14T23:32:00.000Z-Craw-daddy-2008-02-14T23:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Craw-daddy-2008-02-15T00:00:00.000Z-Rray-2008-02-14T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the response! P.S. If you run across any reviews of microgames and/or any more generic articles about microgames, could you just drop me a line on my talk page? I bugged Web Warlock about this too as I'm trying to locate references to add to that article, as well as some of the individual articles about specific microgames. Thanks! :) P.P.S. I've pretty much given up trying to work on the D&D types of articles as anything that I redirect seems to get reverted by a SPA, or some other hoo-hah springs up about those articles. I've recently gotten pretty turned off in general about editing Wikipedia, but find it hard to stay away. (Sorry for the brief messing up of your talk page. My browser crashed and the "recovery" of its cache led to my error.) --Craw-daddy | T | 00:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-15T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Craw-daddy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Craw-daddy-2008-02-15T00:00:00.000Z-Rray-2008-02-14T23:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"--Craw-daddy"}}-->

Sigh, sorry to mention one more thing, but if you have happened to run across any reviews/articles about Car Wars in your perusal of Different Worlds, could you add some appropriate material to that article? Our favorite editor seems to think that winner the Charles S. Roberts Award isn't sufficient to demonstrate notability. Cheers! (This stubbornness isn't helping to win me over to continue editing Wikipedia articles...) --Craw-daddy | T | 10:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-15T10:28:00.000Z","author":"Craw-daddy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Craw-daddy-2008-02-15T10:28:00.000Z-Car_Wars","replies":[],"displayName":"--Craw-daddy"}}-->

Just thought that I would give you a heads up that I have access to the online version of Pyramid and its archives. I think it includes most (but maybe not all??) of the print back issues too. (Only $20/yr, so not bad I guess.) I used it in one or two places already, including today in the Car Wars article. So I'm open to suggestions, and will try to use it in other places too. --Craw-daddy | T | 17:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-15T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Craw-daddy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Craw-daddy-2008-02-15T17:36:00.000Z-Pyramid","replies":[],"displayName":"--Craw-daddy"}}-->

You recently removed a link on the Cruel (solitaire) page marking it as 'spam'. It's clearly not spam, but it may be a conflict of interest for myself to have added it

Yet you did not remove the only other remaining link which is a very similar link. If this was a mistake on your part, you should go back and correct it by either adding in the link you incorrectly removed. If you did not see the other link, then you should go back and remove that link as well. If you some how feel that one link should be allowed but not the other then you should explain things more than just marking them as 'spam'.

Regardless of which resolution action you take, I will be inviting other more level headed Wikipedia editors to come in and discuss whether the links are valid. I'm positive that they will add both links back in.Sembiance (talk) 18:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-21T18:07:00.000Z","author":"Sembiance","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sembiance-2008-03-21T18:07:00.000Z-External_Link_Bias","replies":["c-Sembiance-2008-03-26T12:52:00.000Z-Sembiance-2008-03-21T18:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

I would like to apologize about any things I may have said to you that were unfair. I got kind of heated over this whole external link debacle. While I still believe the external links are useful to the user and make Wikipedia better, I now understand and accept Wikipedia's rules regarding this matter. It was never about trying to get more hits, because I never got very much from Wikipedia anyways. It was always about being helpful to the user. In spirit of other's editors zeal to remove invalid external links that point to implementations, I have gone through other Solitaire pages where other External links such as green felt and other playable implementations exist and removed them. Once again I'm sorry if I offended you at all during this process, I hope you won't hold that against me in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sembiance (talk • contribs) 12:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-26T12:52:00.000Z","author":"Sembiance","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sembiance-2008-03-26T12:52:00.000Z-Sembiance-2008-03-21T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rray-2008-03-26T14:01:00.000Z-Sembiance-2008-03-26T12:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your note. I surely won't hold anything against you, and I hope you'll continue to contribute here. Rray (talk) 14:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-26T14:01:00.000Z","author":"Rray","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rray-2008-03-26T14:01:00.000Z-Sembiance-2008-03-26T12:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I wasn't accusing you of a conflict of interest. I was pointing out that a COI is not a factor in my position. If you feel I have misrepresented you, I apologize. Bytebear (talk) 05:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-26T05:49:00.000Z","author":"Bytebear","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bytebear-2008-03-26T05:49:00.000Z-COI","replies":["c-Rray-2008-03-26T12:26:00.000Z-Bytebear-2008-03-26T05:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the clarification. Apology accepted. :) Rray (talk) 12:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-26T12:26:00.000Z","author":"Rray","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rray-2008-03-26T12:26:00.000Z-Bytebear-2008-03-26T05:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->