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Every wikipedian may need help... this time it's my turn.
I've been following the issue raised by Cyphoidbomb about List of Fanboy and Chum Chum episodes however, I thinking of reverting Joseph Fleisher's edits as the table is a mess and allowing Cyphoid to make their edits. What do others think to this action? Thanks Rich(MTCD)Talk Page11:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T11:15:00.000Z-Request_For_Help","replies":["c-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T11:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
There's no hurry, so I think this plan should work? If you disagree though, boldly go ahead; but that's my suggestion - to fix it, longer term, by showing a consensus. Cheers, Chzz ► 12:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T11:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T13:38:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z","c-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T13:56:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks Chzz, although I agree with what you posted on CB's page, I must detest that the page looks a mess. I think that reverting it will clean it up, then I will leave the 2 editors to discuss it out (but keep the page monitored) - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page13:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T13:38:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}--> Correction! - Meh, the page looks fine at the moment. I won't revert it. - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page13:56, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-03-21T13:56:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T12:19:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
Sure, you could - you're entitled to your opinion, and to do what you like. Personally, I wouldn't. Yeah, it's a mess - but so what? There's no deadline. Why not wait just for a week, while others agree it is a mess.
The page will exist on Wikipedia for many, many years. So if it is 'wrong' for a few days, does it matter?
That's the basic principle behind consensus/discussion. It's like, during an edit-war, when The Wrong Version gets protected.
There's always time to just wait a bit. No rush.
I mean...I'm sure, within a few days, a load of people would go on the talk page and say "yep, absolutely agree" - and then it'd all be nice, clear and consensus-based.
And I know that, in this specific case, it seems obvious that it is 'wrong'. But still I'd wait.
Up to you though, totally.
Did you have another question? If not, can you please remove the {{helpme}}? oh, never mind, it's gone now - maybe I was looking at a cached page or something Cheers, Chzz ► 14:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T14:15:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chzz-2011-03-21T14:15:00.000Z-Request_For_Help","replies":["c-Chzz-2011-03-21T14:34:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T14:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
Re. correction - ah, ok. I didn't see that until after I'd replied! Also, I probably saw the 'good' version of the page! OK, cool. Cheers, Chzz ► 14:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-21T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chzz-2011-03-21T14:34:00.000Z-Chzz-2011-03-21T14:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi,
Where was the response for the above case? I don't recall getting anything in the mailing list? Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-22T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Acather96","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acather96-2011-03-22T19:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Abuse_response\/24.116.219.146","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-03-22T22:47:00.000Z-Acather96-2011-03-22T19:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
Not sure why you didn't get it from the mailing list however you didn't get it in your personal box because of a typo by the ISP (managed to get a ] after your address...). I have forwarded on to your personal address proper now for you :) - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page22:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-22T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-03-22T22:47:00.000Z-Acather96-2011-03-22T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Acather96-2011-03-25T06:12:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-03-22T22:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
I see, thanks :) Acather96 (talk) 06:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-25T06:12:00.000Z","author":"Acather96","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Acather96-2011-03-25T06:12:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-03-22T22:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I would like to request your opinion here. Thanks and cheers. Jessy(talk)(contribs) • 00:42, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
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Update:IP address 203.122.240.100 has been blocked for one year now for again vandalism.Just telling you about that.I did not block him.And by the way, any luck yet on this IP abuse report on 203.122.240.100?--Damirgraffiti☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 01:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-04T01:53:00.000Z","author":"Damirgraffiti","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Damirgraffiti-2011-05-04T01:53:00.000Z-Update_about_the_IP_address.","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-05-04T20:40:00.000Z-Damirgraffiti-2011-05-04T01:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for this update, I need to get round to contacting the ISP, should be done soon. - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page20:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-04T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-05-04T20:40:00.000Z-Damirgraffiti-2011-05-04T01:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Damirgraffiti-2011-05-07T15:20:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-04T20:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
You"re welcome.I"ll keep an eye on that IP address in case if anything pops up again.--Damirgraffiti☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 15:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-07T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Damirgraffiti","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Damirgraffiti-2011-05-07T15:20:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-04T20:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Are you suggesting maybe a sort of throttling limit placed on CB3's usage? – AJLtalk15:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Ajl772","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ajl772-2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z-ClueBot_3","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-05-02T21:19:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z","c-Ajl772-2011-05-08T01:50:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"AJL"}}-->
Not at all, it's just how it's coded ends up sending my server up the wall... throttling won't be required - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page21:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-02T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-05-02T21:19:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-43?9enter-2011-05-07T20:49:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-02T21:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
Yay! And thanks for the trout. --43?9enter★☭20:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-07T20:49:00.000Z","author":"43?9enter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-43?9enter-2011-05-07T20:49:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-02T21:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that it is improperly archiving recording the indices for Article talk pages. Compare the indices with the actual history of that page (this is only just one example). – AJLtalk01:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-08T01:50:00.000Z","author":"Ajl772","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ajl772-2011-05-08T01:50:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-02T15:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-08T01:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"AJL"}}-->
Urm, take that to Cobi, I just run the bots... I don't have a Clue (Heh...) on how they work :) - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page20:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-08T01:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ajl772-2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
I've tried, but it seems Cobi has just disappeared... – AJLtalk08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z","author":"Ajl772","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ajl772-2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"AJL"}}-->
Note: Yanked out of archive. Did you know that you have it set up to archive after 5 hours? – AJLtalk18:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-08T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Ajl772","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ajl772-2011-05-08T18:00:00.000Z-ClueBot_3","replies":["c-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-08T18:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"AJL"}}-->
Whoops... better change that ^_^ - Rich(MTCD)Talk Page20:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Methecooldude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-Ajl772-2011-05-08T18:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ajl772-2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-1"],"displayName":"Rich(MTCD)"}}-->
LOL, age is in hours, not seconds. 432000 would archive stuff after 49+ years. – AJLtalk08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z","author":"Ajl772","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ajl772-2011-05-09T08:05:00.000Z-Methecooldude-2011-05-08T20:16:00.000Z-1","replies":[],"displayName":"AJL"}}-->
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Problems
VisualEditor was broken for 30 minutes on Tuesday. The problem was due to a tool it uses. [1]
The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 20. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 26. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 27 (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 28 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
You can add your ideas of new tools to help active users like you. [4]
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Sorry to bother you, but when I noticed that my talk page was getting long I saw that the last month it was archived was February. Anything I should do? Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis20:33, 25 May 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-25T20:33:00.000Z","author":"Miniapolis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miniapolis-2015-05-25T20:33:00.000Z-ClueBot_III_down?","replies":["c-Miniapolis-2015-05-28T16:29:00.000Z-Miniapolis-2015-05-25T20:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Mini"}}-->
Whatever you did, thanks very much :-). All the best, Miniapolis16:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-28T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Miniapolis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Miniapolis-2015-05-28T16:29:00.000Z-Miniapolis-2015-05-25T20:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2015-06-02T22:32:00.000Z-Miniapolis-2015-05-28T16:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Mini"}}-->
Hi @Miniapolis:, I think that it was related to this. In future, if this happens again, you can archive your page manually using OneClickArchiver.--5 albert square (talk) 22:32, 2 June 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-02T22:32:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2015-06-02T22:32:00.000Z-Miniapolis-2015-05-28T16:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Many wikis were slow for a few hours on Wednesday due to a code error. Sometimes the pages did not load at all and showed an error. [5]
Some tools in Labs were broken on Wednesday and Thursday. [6]
Edit tags added by the software were broken on all wikis from May 23 to May 28. [7][8]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 27. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from June 2. It will be on all Wikipedias from June 3 (calendar).
You won't be able to use e-mail lists for a few hours on Tuesday. [9]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 3 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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Hello! I'm one of the Admins of Tool Labs, and while investigating huge log files, I found that Cluebot's generating about 1T of error logs every week almost - in /data/project/cluebot/logs/cluebot3.err. Most of them seem to be PHP errors or notices. I've deleted the current log but I think it's still being generated. Can you take a look and maybe fix the errors being reported / turn off error reporting? Thanks! YuviPanda (talk) 17:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-06-02T17:06:00.000Z","author":"Yuvipanda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yuvipanda-2015-06-02T17:06:00.000Z-Cluebot's_error_logs","replies":[]}}-->
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from June 9. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from June 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from June 11 (calendar). [10][11]
If you use the Monobook skin, the buttons and other controls now look more the same in VisualEditor and other tools. [12]
When you edit links and other items in VisualEditor, you now need to apply your change before closing the tool. [13]
The title of dialogs is now easier to see when it is near long buttons. [14]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 9 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.