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Hi, I see you deleted the SlideDog article. I am new to Wikipedia, but I'm learning fast thanks to you guys who patrol new pages and comment on the content. I rewrote the SlideDog article completely, removing all references to features and other stuff that might seem promotional after getting a speedy deletion tag, but I guess it wasn't sufficient.

Right now I'm not sure what to do. I could argue that for instance the wiki page on the other ones in the Presenentation Software category look just like the SlideDog article, but I understand why the "other pages exist" - argument isn't a valid one on wikipedia. However, may I ask you for a few quick pointers on how not to get a speedy deletion tag when writing an article similar to the ones in "Presentation Software"? Dag Hendrik Lerdal (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T15:27:00.000Z","author":"Daghendrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daghendrik-2013-02-05T15:27:00.000Z-Deletion_of_SlideDog","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z-Daghendrik-2013-02-05T15:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Dag Hendrik Lerdal"}}-->

• I assume you saw "other stuff exists" in the previous message. There is also a sentence starting with the word "kindly" which I think applies to you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:11, 5 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z-Daghendrik-2013-02-05T15:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello RHaworth! I am pretty new to all of this and I did request speedy deletion of User:Jyeager14/The Covenant School (Tennessee), but now I realized that was in folly. I need to recreate the page with mostly similar content, but I am unsure if I would be violating any Wikipedia rules or what not. Can you simply "undelete" the entry or is there something else I need to do? Thanks in advance for your help! Cheers, Jyeager14 (talk) 22:31, 5 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T22:31:00.000Z","author":"Jyeager14","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jyeager14-2013-02-05T22:31:00.000Z-The_Covenant_School_(Tennessee)","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z-Jyeager14-2013-02-05T22:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You also need to learn to provide a link to any page about which you are talking. Restored - I should never have deleted it. I have this habit of opening a batch of pages marked for speedy and then working through them taking deletion decisions. In your case at least six minutes elapsed between my opening and doing the delete. During those six minutes you removed the speedy tag but I was looking at the out of date version and never realised. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:11, 5 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-05T23:11:00.000Z-Jyeager14-2013-02-05T22:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Of course...duh! Bonehead move on my part. Thanks again for your quick reply! Jyeager14 (talk) 23:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-05T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Jyeager14","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jyeager14-2013-02-05T23:23:00.000Z-The_Covenant_School_(Tennessee)","replies":[]}}-->

It is generally agreed that the disambiguator contain a state qualifier in addition to the city for cities not on the AP Stylebook. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 01:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-06T01:11:00.000Z","author":"Marcus Qwertyus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Marcus_Qwertyus-2013-02-06T01:11:00.000Z-Temple_Emanuel_(Creve_Coeur,_Missouri)","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-06T01:31:00.000Z-Marcus_Qwertyus-2013-02-06T01:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Noted, feel free to move it back. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-06T01:31:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-06T01:31:00.000Z-Marcus_Qwertyus-2013-02-06T01:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and I was just sitting down to edit a few entries and add MegaMace Fitness Productions, but I saw that it was deleted. I thought I was following the rules. I am not affiliated with this company. I am a fan of one of their projects, so I learned more about them and wanted to share. Is there anyway to get it back if I make changes? I'm not sure what I did wrong. Thanks Kathrynhough (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-06T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Kathrynhough","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kathrynhough-2013-02-06T21:55:00.000Z-MegaMace_Fitness_Productions","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-06T22:05:00.000Z-Kathrynhough-2013-02-06T21:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• We don't care if the company themselves always shout their name, when we write about them on Wikipedia we do not shout. Obviously an article devoid of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources is never going to succeed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:05, 6 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-06T22:05:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-06T22:05:00.000Z-Kathrynhough-2013-02-06T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was in the middle of citing my sources when it was flagged and taken down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathrynhough (talk • contribs) 19:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-12T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Kathrynhough","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kathrynhough-2013-02-12T19:39:00.000Z-MegaMace_Fitness_Productions","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Roger - just letting you know that I've unblocked User:MarkHumphreyLtd, per an extensive discussion he's had with Boing! said Zebedee and a valid rename request. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T09:53:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yunshui-2013-02-08T09:53:00.000Z-User_unblocked","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, sorry for interrupt, User:DrDrake100 changed unsourced music genres (actually it's a music style), such as David Bowie's 1999 album 'Hours...' and 2002 album Heathen, both actually are rock music albums. He accidently added styles as genres in other infobox, such as art rock and experimental rock, which are unsourced genres. Anyway, block him with no expiry set (unlimited). P.S. If somebody needs unblock him, just don't unblock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordofpyrus (talk • contribs) 09:44, 3 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-03T09:44:00.000Z","author":"Lordofpyrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lordofpyrus-2013-02-03T09:44:00.000Z-Need_block_User:DrDrake100","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T15:14:00.000Z-Lordofpyrus-2013-02-03T09:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

• If anybody is going to be blocked it is you for trolling. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:14, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T15:14:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T15:14:00.000Z-Lordofpyrus-2013-02-03T09:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I just noticed that you speedily deleted the article DJ Rush on January 19, 2011. I highly dispute that this article was eligible for speedy deletion. Maybe he isn't very much renown on his home turf (I can't judge about that), but he certainly is a big name in his scene in Europe. Just look for DJ Rush on amazon.de ([1]) and you will see he has dozens of releases available in Europe. He also is a major act in European dance clubs. So please undelete this article, the least he deserves is a proper AfD discussion.--BSI (talk) 18:12, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T18:12:00.000Z","author":"BSI","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BSI-2013-02-08T18:12:00.000Z-speedy_deletion_of_DJ_Rush","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T18:24:00.000Z-BSI-2013-02-08T18:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

• How is it that in six years no-one had added a single independent reference to the article? Restored to User:BSI/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T18:24:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T18:24:00.000Z-BSI-2013-02-08T18:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't know. But I added a few bits to the article plus 4 references. I also left some notes for consideration at User_talk:BSI/sandbox. Could you read them / check the article for notability and verifiability. I think it now satisfies the criterias of notability.--BSI (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T20:50:00.000Z","author":"BSI","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BSI-2013-02-08T20:50:00.000Z-speedy_deletion_of_DJ_Rush","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z-BSI-2013-02-08T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

• The references are not very impressive - is there nothing else in English? But they will probably pass. Feel free to move it back into mainspace. I do note that he appears in five other wikis - with poorer refs than you have provided for this English version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:17, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z-BSI-2013-02-08T20:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-BSI-2013-02-08T23:21:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

I guess since the "hard techno" scene is kind of underground, there is less coverage in "mainstream" media. Also I sense that he's more popular in European countries like Germany, France, Czech Republic etc so probably that's another reason why there are so little high profile English references available. nevertheless, this is what I found by brief research, so maybe if I get back at it, i can still find some more resources.--BSI (talk) 23:21, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T23:21:00.000Z","author":"BSI","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BSI-2013-02-08T23:21:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Roger, Thank you for directing me here. As I'm sure you can tell, I am not very familiar with Wikipedia's procedures. The volunteer who created the page has given me access to their account to contact you here. Irishwaterdogs Warriors. I have copied my email from earlier below and would appreciate any assistance you could give. Thank you, Dave.

This is Dave McDaid here, founder of the non-profit Irishwaterdogs Warriors program in Florida, USA. A registered 501c3 Non-Profit http://www.irishwaterdogswarriors.org

We recently had a page created in Wikipedia about our non-profit organization, but sadly it seems to have been deleted. Irishwaterdogs Warriors.

It seems the reason was for 'unambiguous advertising or promotion' and I am sure the volunteer who created the page never meant for that to happen.

Our organization has Chapters in several States here in the US and does amazing work with the VA (United States Department of Veterans Affairs) in rehabilitating our injured and disabled combat Veterans through outdoor adaptive sports. We are an accredited organization by the department in Washington DC and provide the best care and adaptive therapy for our injured Service Personnel.

I would be personally extremely grateful if you could help us in having our page restored without the content that appears to violate Wikipedia's policy. Thanking you in advance,

Dave. — SwimmerGirl Jo (talk • contribs) 20:20, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T20:20:00.000Z","author":"SwimmerGirl Jo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SwimmerGirl_Jo-2013-02-08T20:20:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Irishwaterdogs_Warriors","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z-SwimmerGirl_Jo-2013-02-08T20:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Releasing ones user password is a very serious wikicrime. I am very tempted to block SwimmerGirl Jo for that reason. Under the circumstances, I would have accepted an IP address submission. My standard message applies: kindly wait until someone with no COI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. If you insist on trying to force an article in: create a draft without that horrible shouting and find a "sponsor". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:17, 8 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-08T21:17:00.000Z-SwimmerGirl_Jo-2013-02-08T20:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your response. I would like to address some of your statements below.

Please reference where releasing ones user password is "a very serious wikicrime"? When I was contacted by wikipedia's own editors to to give a written release for pictures to be used on this page, I was contacted through the Swimmergirl account. They did not seem to have a problem with that then, but some how, you do?

You "are very tempted to block Swimmergirl Jo's account" for that reason? The account has been transferred to our organization by SwimmerGirl. Your threat to arbitrarily block someone's account and close a dialog is not only against the free sharing information that wikipedia stands for but is more suited to the book burnings and arbitrary "deletions" of the late 1930's.

"If I insist on trying to force and article in" At what point have I tried to "force" an article in? Someone who volunteered at our program took it upon themselves to submit an article about our organization. You, took it upon yourself to delete it. citing the reason for removal as 'unambiguous advertising or promotion'. At which point I contacted you and graciously asked for your guidance with regard to this matter. Up to and including the typing of this response, you have still not provided the information asked of you, but instead threaten to shut down an account.

"Create a draft without that horrible shouting"? I had to look up the link provided to see what you meant by this. IRISHWATERDOGS in all caps is a registered trademark with the USPTO. It was not used in the page entry, only when referencing the parent company. If your same logic were used across wikipedia, there would be no entry for many pages, but yet, they exist. Due to the fact I'm sure that they have not run afoul of your arbitrary enforcement.

"Kindly wait until someone with no COI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here"? I believe someone already did just that. And you deleted it. Not only do they find our organization notable, but every Radio and TV network in the US has featured our organization and written articles on it. All the links to which, were in fact included in the page that you deleted.

With your current points addressed above, I would like to include. That when I contacted you, I did so with politeness and respect. As the founder of an organization that helps people, I reached out to you for help with this matter, to ask for guidance and with the belief that I would be addressed with respect in return. However, your curt, rude answers and threatening tone have obviously proved that a pointless approach and in fact made me question the motives for your deletion of our organization's entry. The article on our organization did not contain any advertising or promotion. It was a factually correct entry that had multiple independent sources from FOX news to NPR linked to it. If sources as diametrically opposed as both FOX and NPR are quoted, I believe that would in fact qualify the article as being balanced and unbiased by any standard of measurement. Which leads me to believe that the motive for the article's deletion has more to do with exercising arbitrary decisions to suit your own criteria.

I will take this thread, your deletion and responses to wikipedia's admin section to have our entry reviewed for re-inclusion. And again, I will point out, that examples for your reason to delete 'unambiguous advertising or promotion' have still not been provided.

Please continue your work. And if you can't be helpful, be rude. Yours, Dave McDaid. Founder Irishwaterdogs Warriors 66.177.26.208 (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T01:20:00.000Z","author":"66.177.26.208","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-66.177.26.208-2013-02-09T01:20:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Irishwaterdogs_Warriors","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:17:00.000Z-66.177.26.208-2013-02-09T01:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You are long winded - all you really needed to say was "I am going to deletion review". I have answered the compromised account matter at user talk:SwimmerGirl Jo. You say "I believe someone already did just that". Please give reference. I see no submission except yours which has blatant and admitted COI. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:17, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T12:17:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:17:00.000Z-66.177.26.208-2013-02-09T01:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

An editor has asked for this deletion review of Irishwaterdogs Warriors. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwimmerGirl Jo (talk • contribs)

Hi Roger, I too am only new here, and would appreciate your help and advice.

The "Whole Woman Posture" which was tagged for "Speedy deletion", and was in fact speedily deleted, actually refers to a postural exercise which has been demonstrated to assist in the treatment of Female genital prolapse. I think I can see where a problem might lie in that "Whole Woman" is also a registered trademark, and this article could be construed as mere advertising. That was not my intention.

I would like to be able to re-write the article, perhaps under a different title, so that it becomes a true encyclopedic entry discussing the non-surgical treatment of Female genital prolapse,or Female pelvic organ prolapse. This is quite an important subject for many women, and there appear to be only two non-surgical treatments to date: the Kegel exercise(pelvic floor exercise) and the Whole Woman Posture (repositioning of the pelvic organs).

You can probably see my dilemma: if the Kegel exercise entry is not considered spam, then neither should the Whole Woman Posture, but perhaps under a different name, and perhaps written in a better way, with more reference.

Please advise me as to how to re-instate this entry, perhaps under the title Pelvic organ re-positioning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabprint (talk • contribs) 00:32, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T00:32:00.000Z","author":"Fabprint","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fabprint-2013-02-09T00:32:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Whole_Woman_Posture","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T00:38:00.000Z-Fabprint-2013-02-09T00:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Its a matter of notability. I submit that kegels are an order of magnitude more notable than your exercises. If you can provide links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources, you could try re-submission via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T00:38:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T00:38:00.000Z-Fabprint-2013-02-09T00:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi This is Rifle Artist Management writing regarding the artist why his page has been deleted i can verify to you that the person exist and that he is an artist which comes under the music criteria therefore I am not understanding what the problem is because this does not come under advertising or promoting, as i am not advertising the artist I am currently writing a biography about him, there is also a book that will be released about him. could You let me know how can I get his page back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.158.52 (talk) 01:08, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T01:08:00.000Z","author":"94.197.158.52","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-94.197.158.52-2013-02-09T01:08:00.000Z-Rifle_Artist","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-94.197.158.52-2013-02-09T01:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Please read this discussion and then read this note. Because I have not yet received any feedback since I drafted the note, the Pink & and myself would both be very interested to know whether you consider this response prompt and civil and whether the note covers the matter adequately. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-94.197.158.52-2013-02-09T01:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Indefinite full protection seems excessive, and it's been going on for almost five years now. I bumped into this only because I had to fix a double redirect. If you don't unprotect it, at least fix the redirect please. Thanks. There, I have an account (talk) 04:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T04:19:00.000Z","author":"There, I have an account","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-There,_I_have_an_account-2013-02-09T04:19:00.000Z-To_Be_Determined","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-There,_I_have_an_account-2013-02-09T04:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Redir fixed. Unprotected. Let us see what happens. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-There,_I_have_an_account-2013-02-09T04:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, how are you. Kolours everlasting was deleted for some reason i don't know. i am new to wiki so some of the command i don't understand if there is an issue please let me know so i can resolve it. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humanexperience (talk • contribs) 04:52, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T04:52:00.000Z","author":"Humanexperience","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Humanexperience-2013-02-09T04:52:00.000Z-Kolours_everlasting","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-Humanexperience-2013-02-09T04:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Do the words "links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources" suggest anything to you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-09T12:36:00.000Z-Humanexperience-2013-02-09T04:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I apologize for the delay in contacting you; I was just swamped in real life. Regarding the article Xenitis, I'm not happy with the deletion. I strongly believe that the subject is notable enough to warrant a separate article in Wikipedia, and I was in the process of adding around five more references to the article to back the content I added. I believe that the deletion called for a debate, an RFC on the deletion perhaps. Could you look into this? ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 10:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-10T10:13:00.000Z","author":"Ankitbhatt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-10T10:13:00.000Z-Xenitis","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-10T14:55:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-10T10:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ankit"}}-->

• An experienced editor like you ought to know: a) always provide a link to the page about which you are talking and b) never launch an unreferenced article directly into mainspace. I have restored your article to User:Ankitbhatt/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:55, 10 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-10T14:55:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-10T14:55:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-10T10:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

a) I did not provide a link because the article no longer exists. b) It's just force of habit. I just want to know whether the article can be put back on the mainspace once the full referencing is done. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 16:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-12T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Ankitbhatt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-12T16:10:00.000Z-Xenitis","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T00:21:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-12T16:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ankit"}}-->

• a) "no longer exists" is no excuse. How did you find out that I deleted the article? You followed a link to it. How did you expect me to restore the article without a link to it? Can the article be put back? Well what else would you do with it? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-13T00:21:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T00:21:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-12T16:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I found out from the person who nominated the article for deletion, and the "links" you talk about exist. Besides, the name of this heading is the name of the article, and I said as much in my first comment here. And don't blow your lid. If you can't respond peacefully, then you should have dropped the issue and I would have approached a different administrator. Anyways, this ends the conversation. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 07:04, 13 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-13T07:04:00.000Z","author":"Ankitbhatt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-13T07:04:00.000Z-Xenitis","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T10:27:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-13T07:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ankit"}}-->

• What's this about blowing my lid and peaceful? I assure you I am totally calm and peaceful - the above was just my normal calm but sarcastic and supercilious state. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-13T10:27:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T10:27:00.000Z-Ankitbhatt-2013-02-13T07:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A couple of days ago you deleted Concarril, a soft redirect to the Spanish Wikipedia, under criterion WP:CSD#R2. Although I do not object to the, I don't think that it came under any speedy deletion criterion. Accordingly, I have started a discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Soft redirects to foreign-language Wikipedias. Thryduulf (talk) 16:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-10T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Thryduulf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thryduulf-2013-02-10T16:25:00.000Z-Concarril","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, you recently deleted Mike Dailly (game designer). Would it be possible for you to place a copy of the article content on my user page please, so that I can see what content it had in it and improve it. I'm not contesting the deletion as I don't know what content the article had. But if the nomination was by User:71.240.218.211 then I believe it to be a flawed nomination as they are working under the opinion that Mike Dailly is a fictitious person, which he is not ([2][3][4]). As you can see, being one of the co-creators of Grand Theft Auto doesn't make him as important as Pelé or The Pope, but it does elevate him slightly above the rank of fictitious person, which the IP user has been labelling him as. Thanks. - X201 (talk) 09:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T09:25:00.000Z","author":"X201","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-X201-2013-02-11T09:25:00.000Z-Mike_Dailly_(game_designer)","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-11T10:58:00.000Z-X201-2013-02-11T09:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

• The article had survived for six years without proper references so it deserves a bit more than a speedy. What makes you think that they think that the guy is fictitious? Why could you not give me link to the article? See how you like it: restored to User:X201/Mike Dailly. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T10:58:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-11T10:58:00.000Z-X201-2013-02-11T09:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear RHaworth,

Thanks for making the page move of Children's film. thanks for your help. Robin klein (talk) 13:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T13:40:00.000Z","author":"Robin klein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robin_klein-2013-02-11T13:40:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":[]}}-->

hello there, i want to know why did u deleted my page creep dogg LBC? i am new to wikipedia and my client is creep dogg! can you please let me know what went wrong with my page? thanks MrsTolliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsTolliver (talk • contribs) 15:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T15:38:00.000Z","author":"MrsTolliver","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MrsTolliver-2013-02-11T15:38:00.000Z-Creeb_Dogg_LBC","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-11T15:46:00.000Z-MrsTolliver-2013-02-11T15:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You are the creep's manager in Germany so kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks he is notable and writes about him here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:46, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T15:46:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-11T15:46:00.000Z-MrsTolliver-2013-02-11T15:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am puzzled why the page TRANSYT was deleted in December 2012. I have re-checked the notability criteria and believe that it satisfied these. I realise this can still be subjective, so maybe I am missing something. I'd like to re-establish the page, but don't went to waste effort if it is simply going to be deleted again, so I need to understand the deficiencies of the original article. I did not create the topic, which was a number of years old, but have edited it occasionally in order that it was not wrong/out-of-date. I believe the content was of sufficient interest in its own right (i.e. significant coverage). TRANSYT represents one of, if not THE first ever software programs for optimising traffic signals, and as such has a particular historical interest to readers. I notice that a related page on TRANSYT-7F still exists, and makes reference to its parent software, i.e. TRANSYT. This link of course is now broken, as are other references to TRANSYT from such topics as "Traffic Signals". I'd appreciate it if you could either re-instate the page (ideal) with recommendations so that I can immediately take action to improve it, or please summarise the differences between the topics TRANSYT 7F and TRANSYT, so that I can see why one still exists and the other is deleted. I can then feed this advice into the page before I recreate it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndTonic (talk • contribs) 10:37, 12 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-12T10:37:00.000Z","author":"AndTonic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AndTonic-2013-02-12T10:37:00.000Z-PROD_Deletion_of_TRANSYT_topic","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-12T11:18:00.000Z-AndTonic-2013-02-12T10:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Why are people incapable of providing links when they talk here about articles? The amazing thing is that in eight years no-one had turned it into an article. It was lacking in wikilinks, it looked more than a product data sheet than an article and it was totally lacking in links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. But because it had survived eight years, perhaps it deserves better than straight deletion. I have restored it to User:AndTonic/transyt. Do not even think about moving it back until it is a proper article. I note you have an interest in Berkshire - can I assume that you work at the RRL? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-12T11:18:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-12T11:18:00.000Z-AndTonic-2013-02-12T10:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for cleaning up after my mess. VanIsaac_{WS Vex}^contribs 11:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-12T11:25:00.000Z","author":"Vanisaac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vanisaac-2013-02-12T11:25:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_speedy","replies":[],"displayName":"Van"}}-->

Please do me the favour of sending me a copy of the deleted article on E. Roy Fitzgerald. I might be able to contribute additional information. Great Aunt Sue (of Port Arthur, Texas) was married to Mr. Fitzgerald. We have a picture of them dated 7/9/1940. I spent the past weekend talking with an aunt and uncle near Pt. Arthur who knew Mr. Fitzgerald. He was once friends with Al Capone and lived in a large house in Winnetka, Illinois. He owned bus lines in Chicago and, eventually, Port Arthur. Thank you, 173.74.138.230 (talk) 04:44, 13 February 2013 (UTC) Mark Ertel__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-13T04:44:00.000Z","author":"173.74.138.230","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-173.74.138.230-2013-02-13T04:44:00.000Z-E._Roy_Fitzgerald","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T10:14:00.000Z-173.74.138.230-2013-02-13T04:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I normally refuse to talk to IP addresses but I am assuming that you do not have a Wikipedia account so in this case I will talk. I have restored the article here. The article was created by Stidmatt (talk · contribs) who is still active so it might be useful to contact them. I was interested in the Al Capone reference. In today's "green-thinking" world what E. Roy did might be considered a bigger crime than anything Al Capone did. I live about 400 metres from Tramlink - one of the re-introductions of "streetcars" to the UK. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:14, 13 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-13T10:14:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-13T10:14:00.000Z-173.74.138.230-2013-02-13T04:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You deleted Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/O'Reilly House Museum as a copyright violation. At the AfC help desk the author, Malitza, asks about the reasons for the deletion and says that the text was entirely in her own words. If it's the same text as in her sandbox and on her user page, my quick Google search for some characteristic phrases indeed found no non-Wikipedia sources. Since I can't check the deleted draft, could you please have another look and tell Malitza why it was a copyright infringement? If the sandbox and the user page are indeed the same, they might also have to be deleted, but since I couldn't tell what copyright they might infringe, I haven't tagged them. Huon (talk) 16:45, 14 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-14T16:45:00.000Z","author":"Huon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Huon-2013-02-14T16:45:00.000Z-Copyvio_question","replies":["c-Huon-2013-02-15T04:31:00.000Z-Huon-2013-02-14T16:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your explanation. Huon (talk) 04:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-15T04:31:00.000Z","author":"Huon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Huon-2013-02-15T04:31:00.000Z-Huon-2013-02-14T16:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

13:37, February 6, 2013 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Russian Mountains (disambiguation) (G6: Obviously unnecessary disambiguation page)

Could you please restore it into my user space? I am wondering was there anything remotly salvageable. - Altenmann >t 03:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-15T03:35:00.000Z","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Altenmann-2013-02-15T03:35:00.000Z-Page_deleted_by_you","replies":["c-Altenmann-2013-02-16T19:20:00.000Z-Altenmann-2013-02-15T03:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've got what I was looking for, thank you. As for your remark, interpreting is as a genuine question rather than snide rhetorics, my primary interest in contributing to wikipedia is about things about which long essays is not the first thing that comes to one's mind: I've long left long essays to wikipedians who know English better than me. I consider the primary importance of wikipedia is its "interwikilinkedness" of (verifiable) information, i.e., its value is primarily a navigation tool in the sea of internets among flotsam of bullshit and sargasses of deception. While FA/GA/DYK are noble goals, IMO it is not how wikipedia beats EB and Encarta: it is WP:6D. - Altenmann >t 19:20, 16 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-16T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Altenmann-2013-02-16T19:20:00.000Z-Altenmann-2013-02-15T03:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The article Mar E Floresta has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence of notability. No independent sources at all. Reads more like a prospectus for the organisation than an objective encyclopaedia article.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-15T09:32:00.000Z","author":"JamesBWatson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JamesBWatson-2013-02-15T09:32:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Mar_E_Floresta","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, RHaworth. You have new messages at Cabe6403's talk page.
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correct about castlerigg - the other one is Bedd Taliesin x sorry had to undo your edit to my user page cos i like them big!! cheers PsychoActiveKineticInternational TransVersal (talk) 22:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-16T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Paki.tv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paki.tv-2013-02-16T22:30:00.000Z-Pics","replies":[],"displayName":"PsychoActiveKineticInternational TransVersal"}}-->

Hello. You processed a couple of deletions of American football uniform images:

These seem an inappropriate application of G7; JohnnySeoul (talk · contribs) wasn't the sole contributor and per his user page is trying to withdraw his contributions (which he can't do). Would you consider reversing? Note that some have previous deletions in order reduce size per fair use so those shouldn't be restored. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 01:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T01:59:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mackensen-2013-02-17T01:59:00.000Z-Football_uniform_images","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T09:07:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T01:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

• As I recall there were literally hundreds of these images. What does the admin who deleted the majority say? Ihave no objection to them restoring the ones I deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:07, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T09:07:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T09:07:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T01:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes there were. A bunch of the speedy tags were reverted for being invalid and I think a couple others were deleted a day earlier via FFD. I found these by going through JohnnySeoul's deleted contributions for the last couple days and I think they're the only ones which should be restored. Mackensen (talk) 15:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T15:36:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mackensen-2013-02-17T15:36:00.000Z-Football_uniform_images","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T20:39:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T15:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

• There were a number of other issues: opaque background, border, .png when .svg would be better and most importantly fair-use when free versions can surely be obtained. Would it not be better to upload new files which address these issues? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T20:39:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T20:39:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T15:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Probably, yes. In fact, some of the editors at WP:NFL suspect that some older versions might address those issues. Most of them aren't sysops and are therefore unable to tell. However, none of these cases fall under G7 and if these files are to be deleted there needs to be an opportunity for comment and discussion. I would ask you again to reverse yourself. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 20:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mackensen-2013-02-17T20:55:00.000Z-Football_uniform_images","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T20:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• OK, I will slog through them. But you mention "some older versions might address those issues". Restoring all the image versions would actually be easier or I can restore just the latest. I am not willing to work through the versions to see which is any do address. So what do you want: latest or all? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z-Mackensen-2013-02-17T20:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mackensen-2013-02-18T03:59:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

  I'm willing to slog through them instead since you're willing to overturn. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 03:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-18T03:59:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mackensen-2013-02-18T03:59:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You deleted Yassir al-Jazeeri as a "redirect to a deleted or non-existent page". Could you please tell me which deleted or non-existent page it pointed to? I came across some references to this name, which say he was a captive known to have been in CIA custody, who disappeared after the CIA closed down its black sites. — Geo Swan (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Geo Swan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geo_Swan-2013-02-17T21:41:00.000Z-Your_assistance_please","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z-Geo_Swan-2013-02-17T21:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

• OK, it was three and an half years ago but you created the redirect - to Adil al-Jazeeri. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-17T22:23:00.000Z-Geo_Swan-2013-02-17T21:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Congratulations, you have deleted my new page about my band, The Sloths, ostensibly because you found the same information on my Facebook band page. Since they are both my pages about my band, they would contain the same information, but obviously I've committed some sort of faux paux regarding "THE RULES" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CD08:3DC9:9909:AC5F:E59B:2C78 (talk) 10:34, 18 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-18T10:34:00.000Z","author":"2602:304:CD08:3DC9:9909:AC5F:E59B:2C78","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2602:304:CD08:3DC9:9909:AC5F:E59B:2C78-2013-02-18T10:34:00.000Z-Deleting_The_Sloths_page","replies":[]}}-->

Yesterday, I accidentally tagged Bluehead chub for deletion. I meant to tag my subpage instead, which is where I created the first draft of the article before moving it into the mainspace. Is there any way to "undelete" the page, or should I just copy-and-paste from the history of my subpage? Thanks. --- FrigidNinja 23:51, 19 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-19T23:51:00.000Z","author":"FrigidNinja","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FrigidNinja-2013-02-19T23:51:00.000Z-I_am_an_idiot","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-20T00:00:00.000Z-FrigidNinja-2013-02-19T23:51:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Frigid"}}-->

• There wasn't any history of your subpage - you had done a move. Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-20T00:00:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-20T00:00:00.000Z-FrigidNinja-2013-02-19T23:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you. FrigidNinja 00:02, 20 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-20T00:02:00.000Z","author":"FrigidNinja","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FrigidNinja-2013-02-20T00:02:00.000Z-I_am_an_idiot","replies":[],"displayName":"Frigid"}}-->

Article name Manjil India is banned from creating due to Several Re-Create few months ago. It was not us. We're real Manjil Corporation who own Manjil india TV, We wanna create an article for our TV Channel — Preceding unsigned comment added by MANJIL Corporation India (talk • contribs) 13:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-21T13:56:00.000Z","author":"MANJIL Corporation India","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MANJIL_Corporation_India-2013-02-21T13:56:00.000Z-Manjil_India","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-21T19:23:00.000Z-MANJIL_Corporation_India-2013-02-21T13:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

• At least the person who repeatedly created the article had the sense to use a user name that did not scream COI. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your channel is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:23, 21 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-21T19:23:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-21T19:23:00.000Z-MANJIL_Corporation_India-2013-02-21T13:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I recently noticed that you deleted the page My Everlasting Zeal which is an album by King Mez. Although the artist doesn't have a Wikipedia page (yet), I believe the album should be listed because it is referenced in many popular blogs and had thousands of downloads. The artist King Mez has worked with stars such as J. Cole and Wiz Khalifa, and adding this album to the current knowledge base of WIkipedia can be beneficial as he is a rising star. Please let me know what you think about this, because I plan on re-publishing the article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apranam2 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-22T02:31:00.000Z","author":"Apranam2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apranam2-2013-02-22T02:31:00.000Z-Deletion_of_My_Everlasting_Zeal","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-22T21:05:00.000Z-Apranam2-2013-02-22T02:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

• What are you talking about? There never has been an article called My Everlasting Zeal. If, and only if, you can show that KIng Mez is notable, write an article about him. Since he seems to be a one hit wonder, add details of that hit to the bio and create a redirect from the title of that one hit. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:05, 22 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-22T21:05:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-22T21:05:00.000Z-Apranam2-2013-02-22T02:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I already talked to BWILKENS (Deleting editor, see his talk page/archives) he told me to use AFC to restore the page. I'm fully aware that the Crown the Empire page was previously deleted as discussed in the talk section of the page that I added the references that made them actually notable (Charted on multiple billboard charts) per WP:Notability (music). Please advise what I need to do to restore page in regards to edits. Cheers, Mariolennox (talk) 00:54, 23 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-23T00:54:00.000Z","author":"Mariolennox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mariolennox-2013-02-23T00:54:00.000Z-AFC:_Crown_the_Empire","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-23T17:42:00.000Z-Mariolennox-2013-02-23T00:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

• How do you expect me to see the deleting admin's talk page when you cannot manage to provide a link to it? Indeed you shout the name and mis-spell it. If you can improve on the current referencing of your AfC submission, do so and re-submit. If it gets rejected again, give up. If you cannot improve the referencing, give up now. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-23T17:42:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-23T17:42:00.000Z-Mariolennox-2013-02-23T00:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Jaimin bal. Thank you. LGA _talk^edits 08:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T08:49:00.000Z","author":"LGA","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LGA-2013-02-24T08:49:00.000Z-Notice","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. The recent introduction of Wikidata and its use for recording interwiki links has lead me to question the wisdom of covering two different (even if highly related) concepts in one article, as Enclave and exclave does. I've said more at Talk:Enclave and exclave#Reconsideration of merge of enclave and exclave, you may to comment there. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Chris j wood","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chris_j_wood-2013-02-24T16:29:00.000Z-Enclave_and_exclave","replies":[],"displayName":"chris_j_wood"}}-->

I'm not sure why I'm reaching out to you, may be a self affirmation of sorts but none the less I am contacting you. Inasmuch as my start here was none to your liking, I would like to thank you for the second chance. I like to think I have something of value to contribute, and would be most appreciative if you reviewed me as an editor. I would really like a moment of your time regarding Talk:Social market economy and your input how to deal with what I feel are problematic editors. I've gone as far as I can within reason and I'm just at a loss for words. Should I leave it alone, did I over react (what wrongs can I avoid), and what would be a suitable course of action? Is it seen as inappropriate to have contacted you at all regarding this subject? I hope this comes off as an attempt to better myself with input from the person that gave me that chance to become a contributing member.Geremy Hebert (talk | contribs) 17:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Geremy.Hebert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geremy.Hebert-2013-02-24T17:29:00.000Z-Just_a_hello-'search_for_wisdom'","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z-Geremy.Hebert-2013-02-24T17:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Geremy Hebert"}}-->

• I am very sorry, I have no interest in the social market economy; reading through long content discussions bores me stiff. Probably best advice is leave it alone. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z-Geremy.Hebert-2013-02-24T17:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Could you take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback#User:Geremy.Hebert? Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 19:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T19:30:00.000Z","author":"Malinaccier","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malinaccier-2013-02-24T19:30:00.000Z-Could_you_take_a_look?","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I want to let you know that I requested a move of the Template:Cleanup-link rot based on your proposal (including the lack of caps) from 2009. -- SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 08:15, 25 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-25T08:15:00.000Z","author":"SaskatchewanSenator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SaskatchewanSenator-2013-02-25T08:15:00.000Z-Cleanup-link_rot_Template","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z-SaskatchewanSenator-2013-02-25T08:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

• The template is transcluded in 4692 articles so a move might not be a good idea. By all means create template:cleanup-bare URLs as a redirect to template:cleanup-link rot. If bare URLs becomes more popular than link rot, then the template can be moved in the future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:11:00.000Z-SaskatchewanSenator-2013-02-25T08:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I figured I would let you know I updated Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Jaimin_bal because he has recreated his page. Is it time for a ban yet? Funnyfarmofdoom _{(talk to me)} 16:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-25T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Funnyfarmofdoom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Funnyfarmofdoom-2013-02-25T16:55:00.000Z-Jaimin_bal","replies":[]}}-->

Dear RHaworth, if possible, please reconsider the deletion of the Mediox page. The page was created in 2008 or earlier and was expanded by many Wikipedia editors. It shows the company history as it went from a multimedia touchscreen integration into the fast food tray to becoming a tablet, smartphone and cell phone company after being acquired several times and changing the model several times. Even before iPhone and iPad hit the market, it designed multimedia touchscreen devices with capacitive charging and posted demo videos online as well as applied for patents ([5]). In 2008 the founders of the company approached Jimmy Wales to partner on delivering Wikipedia content on the multimedia fast food tray devices and personally discussed the concept with Steve Jobs. So at least it shows the history of invention and demos of new technology, which did not yet hit the market and provides value to Wikipedia readers. I am proud to work for this company in its present state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediox (talk • contribs) 21:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-25T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Mediox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mediox-2013-02-25T21:44:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Mediox","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:42:00.000Z-Mediox-2013-02-25T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

• How is it that since 2008 no-one has managed to add evidence of notability to the article? You get my standard advice to wait until someone with no COI writes about the company. But I will also point you to my "sponsor" suggestion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:42, 26 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-26T11:42:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-26T11:42:00.000Z-Mediox-2013-02-25T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have been asked to independently review the deletion of Mediox page. The user, who previously raised the concern was blocked by you in accordance with the policy as the name represented the group. Please review the message again. Mediox has patents, publications and innovative product videos that were referenced in the article. We ask for another review of the deletion. Since creation the article has been edited by people without any conflict of interest as well as the users with negative experiences. If you used their devices and had negative experience, it is possible to write to customer support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDEngineer (talk • contribs) 17:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-01T17:46:00.000Z","author":"MDEngineer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MDEngineer-2013-03-01T17:46:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Mediox","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-03-01T18:09:00.000Z-MDEngineer-2013-03-01T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Stop trying to pretend that you are a different person from Mediox (talk · contribs). You both placed an unsigned message at the top of this page. That is evidence enough for me. My advice above still applies. If you really insist on trying to force an article in, submit a new, properly referenced version via AfC. Or put your new version in User:MDEngineer/sandbox and raise the matter at deletion review. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:09, 1 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-01T18:09:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-01T18:09:00.000Z-MDEngineer-2013-03-01T17:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear RHaworth, I am not pretending to be the same user. You deleted the user Mediox (talk · contribs) right after the complaint. He asked me to take a look at it. In fact, I was asked to translate the initial post. Per your suggestion, I tried to take the page into the sandbox, but since it was deleted and I do not have access to it, I must seek your assistance in reinstating the page so I could make changes or move it to the deletion review. I am not sure if I did everything correctly, but I created an entry in the deletion review. I am sorry if I did something wrong there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDEngineer (talk • contribs)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-04T15:21:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-04T15:21:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Mediox","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for catching that … I should have reinforced that better. My fault. Thanks again. Go Phightins! 11:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-26T11:44:00.000Z","author":"Go Phightins!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Go_Phightins!-2013-02-26T11:44:00.000Z-My_adoptee's_deletion_lesson","replies":[],"displayName":"Go"}}-->

Hi Roger. I think you stopped mid-sentence in you PROD rationale for Immunofluorescent computed tomography. Not that I'm a big fan of that article but "total absence of evidence" doesn't make much sense and we owe the newbie a better explanation. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 20:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-26T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Pichpich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pichpich-2013-02-26T20:03:00.000Z-Immunofluorescent_computed_tomography","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T07:36:00.000Z-Pichpich-2013-02-26T20:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

• When an article does contain a bit of evidence, my standard prod is "no evidence of notability" - a wording to which nobody has objected. If an article contains no evidence, it seems logical to simply omit "of notability". But I accept that the result does seem cryptic so I have expanded and will do so in the future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T07:36:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T07:36:00.000Z-Pichpich-2013-02-26T20:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Curious why you deleted UFC Fight Night 9 page from Wiki. I was wondering why you you might have reasons or desire to delete a past sporting event and its results. Could you please explain your reasoning and justifications for removing it? ~A wiki reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.210.246 (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T18:47:00.000Z","author":"76.27.210.246","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.27.210.246-2013-02-27T18:47:00.000Z-UFC_Fight_Night_9","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T19:47:00.000Z-76.27.210.246-2013-02-27T18:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

• The entire content of the page I deleted was "{{db-redirnonebot|bot=Legobot}} // #REDIRECT UFC Fight Night: Stevenson vs Guillard". In any case we already have an article at UFC 9. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:47, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T19:47:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T19:47:00.000Z-76.27.210.246-2013-02-27T18:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi RHaworth, thank you for bringing your concern for this article to my attention. I’d like to work on getting it to the standard you think it should be at in order to be included in Wikipedia. Addressing A7, this organization is credible (A7, 2nd bullet: “It is irrelevant whether the claim of notability within the article is not sufficient for the notability guidelines. If the claim is credible, the A7 tag can not be applied.”). Perhaps I need more references to the organization and the event that they support called, Neighbourhood Toy Store Day? Neighbourhood Toy Stores of Canada (NETS) is the same type of organization as stub American Specialty Toy Retailing Association, but for Canada. The organization and its event is national across Canada and includes references from various places. — Lindacoudray (talk) 19:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T19:36:00.000Z","author":"Lindacoudray","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lindacoudray-2013-02-27T19:36:00.000Z-Neighbourhood_Toy_Stores_of_Canada","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T19:58:00.000Z-Lindacoudray-2013-02-27T19:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Please do not clutter this page with article material. I suggest that you submit a properly referenced version via AfC using correct capitalisation in the title. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T19:58:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-27T19:58:00.000Z-Lindacoudray-2013-02-27T19:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry, Sir but i'm very new to wikipedia. And please keep helping me in making my articles. To communicate me visit my site: http://ajayrajpurohit.jimdo.com . Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajayrajpurohit1 (talk • contribs)

• The first bit of help you need is that Wikipedia matters are discussed on Wikipedia talk pages. You already have on user talk:Ajayrajpurohit1 some advice from me dated Jan 8 which you have not followed and a question dated Feb 22 which you have not answered. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-28T08:26:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-02-28T08:26:00.000Z-Ajay","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I was a little surprised at your deletion of Mikhail Pakhomov as members of Parliament are usually deemed notable, even for somewhat smaller countries than Russia. I was looking at it at the same time as you, and nearly deleted it G10 as it was unsourced and negative, but decided it was better to source it myself. So I restored and sourced it, hope you don't mind, feel free to AFD it if you think members of the Russian Parliament don't meet wp:politician, cheers and maybe see you next Sunday at the London meetup? ϢereSpielChequers 15:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T15:26:00.000Z","author":"WereSpielChequers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WereSpielChequers-2013-03-02T15:26:00.000Z-Mikhail_Pakhomov","replies":["c-WilliamJE-2013-03-02T15:50:00.000Z-WereSpielChequers-2013-03-02T15:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03e2ere"}}-->

You're forgetting WP:BURDEN which is on the article's creator, not myself or this WP administrator....William 15:50, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T15:50:00.000Z","author":"WilliamJE","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WilliamJE-2013-03-02T15:50:00.000Z-WereSpielChequers-2013-03-02T15:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-WereSpielChequers-2013-03-02T16:12:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2013-03-02T15:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"...William"}}-->

Well I added a reliable source to the material that I restored, so I'm certainly not in breach of that policy. But burden does not trump our speedy deletion policy - you seem to think that simply being unsourced is a valid reason for speedy deletion. It isn't and I doubt if you could get consensus to make it so, but if you want to argue for that I'd suggest starting a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Speedy_deletions. ϢereSpielChequers 16:12, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T16:12:00.000Z","author":"WereSpielChequers","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WereSpielChequers-2013-03-02T16:12:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2013-03-02T15:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u03e2ere"}}-->

Hi, Roger, I was in the middle of editing the article when you deleted it. It's not really about the person (the creator of thea article), but about an Indian village, which albeit unsourced, I believe exists. I was going to clean it up, add a sources tag, and put it in a stub cat. I don't generally like facilitating the creation of unsourced articles, but we tend to be a bit more lenient with villages and other places. Let me know if you mind if I restore it. It won't bother me if you say no. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 17:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T17:58:00.000Z","author":"Bbb23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bbb23-2013-03-02T17:58:00.000Z-Solaithevanpatti","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-03-02T18:08:00.000Z-Bbb23-2013-03-02T17:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Restored. Go ahead and improve. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:08, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T18:08:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-02T18:08:00.000Z-Bbb23-2013-03-02T17:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bbb23-2013-03-02T18:12:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-03-02T18:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks. You already made some of the changes I was going to make. I did a bit more. Maybe I'll try to find a source for the thing later.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-02T18:12:00.000Z","author":"Bbb23","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bbb23-2013-03-02T18:12:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-03-02T18:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! I am confused as to why you deleted this page? It seems to be fairly legit content, and there are several bios with NSF CAREER awards with nowhere to link to. Could you help me understand? Thank you. Nsfcarbot (talk) 23:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-04T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Nsfcarbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nsfcarbot-2013-03-04T23:39:00.000Z-NSF_CAREER_deletion","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z-Nsfcarbot-2013-03-04T23:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• No attempt made to provide evidence of notability. Indeed no evidence at all. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks the award is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z-Nsfcarbot-2013-03-04T23:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Mr. Haworth, I noticed that you deleted the Nanacoco article, on the ground that it is and advertisement. As I am new to Wikipedia, I would very much appreciate your expert comments on how I can write article about a fashion brand that would past the wiki criteria. Our intension is only to report fact and post historical development of a fashion brand with the hope that oneday it could be useful to anyone who is a student of fashion or have interested in fashion industry. Although, this is rarely done by any fashion companies as they would most likely treat it as company secret, but in our oppionion - sharing is better. As we would continue to add more and more content to wiki on our brand, I want to make sure that we do it the right way.

• Is it a particular sentence? word? link? I think I could remove the words "leading manufacturer", and also the links to our own webpage and facebook.
• The rest of the links were real discussion and citation that other website have mentioned about our brand. Can I still refer to these third party website and articles?

In comparison: I saw an article on Harajuku Lovers, which seems to be well accepted. So I guess writing about fashion brand is not inappropriate, but I would like to get your oppinion on how Harajuku Lovers article would be less advertising than Nanacoco. Also, I would appreciate if you could restore Nanacoco article, so that I can don't have to start from scratch again..... Much appreciated your help on this regards, Oldprame 14:09, 5 March 2013 (Thailand)

• We were not impressed by the references which fell short of our criteria for significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. What a ridiculous idea to omit links to the company's own website. But you did not provide one - presumably because the company does not have a website yet. Other stuff exists is never an argument and Harajuku Lovers is a very bad example to chose - it is an hang over when Wikipedia was less fussy about evidence. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Nanacoco","replies":[]}}-->

• Thank you, and a steep learning curve for me. Our brand is 13 year and still going strong. It is wellknown to customer from many asian countries, but perhaps less so to Westerners. The company website is undergoing facelift at the moment, and is meant to be included in the article later on. ^[1]. Harajuku was a bad example, but looks like Tokyogirl79 is reacting quickly to add references to TV medias and a book! I guess when the brand owner being a wellknown celebrity, the brand can easily gain media promotion.
• The Evidence I provided were real coverage by independent websites and TV programs to advise traveller from Japan and Korea on the hot shopping destination, but how can it be proven to you in this case? These are old coverage by the way. Notable sources such as CNN, BBC, or even Fashion channel will be unlikely. So eventhough if any person with no COI would want to write about us, what would constitute a notable source for them to reference?

== See Old NANACOCO website ==

Oldprame 3:00, 6 March 2013 (Thailand)

Could I have a copy of Kotava? Thanks, — kwami (talk) 08:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T08:57:00.000Z","author":"Kwamikagami","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kwamikagami-2013-03-05T08:57:00.000Z-Copy_request","replies":["c-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z-Kwamikagami-2013-03-05T08:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"kwami"}}-->

• E-mailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z","author":"RHaworth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z-Kwamikagami-2013-03-05T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kwamikagami-2013-03-05T20:12:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks! — kwami (talk) 20:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T20:12:00.000Z","author":"Kwamikagami","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kwamikagami-2013-03-05T20:12:00.000Z-RHaworth-2013-03-05T11:16:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"kwami"}}-->

You deleted this page two days ago. It is back. The references are different; I don't know if anything else is. John of Cromer in Philippines (talk) mytime= Tue 19:08, wikitime= 11:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T11:08:00.000Z","author":"Johnmperry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Johnmperry-2013-03-05T11:08:00.000Z-Sinapse_print_simulators","replies":[],"displayName":"John of Cromer in Philippines"}}-->