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Hi Ponyo, hope you are doing well. I noticed your edits to this page reverting edits made in violation of a ban. I then noticed an IP reverted them and you also reverted them and protected the page. I have looked through the editing history of this IP address and the habits seem very similar to an unrelated user who was recently blocked indefinitely for disruptivly editing. I don’t want to publicly add their username as that could be seen as a personal attack, although since you are very experienced with this behaviour, maybe I could email you the user and IP and you could have a look? That is if you are still not busy of course. If not, no worries, I will take to SPI instead. Have a great day! Blanchey (talk) 20:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I’m just scared of making a personal attack because all I have got is editing habits are slightly similar, when this happens, I tend to go directly to an admin (like I did here) but if you think that my suspicions on the editing habits warrant an SPI report, I’ll go ahead. Or I can tell you here on talk page? Blanchey (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Making unfounded accusations of socking can be seen as a personal attack; making evidence-based connections between accounts/IPs based on behavioural overlap isn't. Such connections are literally the basis of our SPI system. As a checkuser I don't want you sending me evidence linking accounts and IPs because I can't explicitly link them publicly due to the privacy policy; you could send me the info but I couldn't act on it as a checkuser. SPI is your best best.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots21:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks so much, you have really helped me understand the policy. I will now go straight to SPI and get this sorted. Have a good day, Ponyo Blanchey (talk) 21:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
User talk:31.54.151.105 and talk:Scientelensia
Warring edits and adding assumed family member wikis to be created
Had a block reverted but is now back. Associated IP talk:86.134.181.186 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opixel (talk • contribs) 03:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
User talk:Allaoi
After you warned the user a bit ago, they have made yet another (whiny) unblock request ("I promise, I will try to contribute as much as possible, but since I don't have much experience, I'm probably going to need an adopter. If you could help with that too, that would be great, but you don't need to. Please just unblock me and I swear, I'll be a good Wikipedian."). Do you have any objection to my removing TPA? They are a hopeless timesink.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Apparently they didn't get the memo that when I archived the last mega-thread regarding their socking, they were supposed to stop. Anyhoo, I've dealt with the latest IP.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots17:07, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
There are support and oppose arguments being made from editors other than the sock, so it would be improper for me to close it (in my opinion). In such instances I generally just strike the sock entries and let the discussion run its course.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots17:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
talk page colors
Hello ponyo first off i want to say I'm sorry for how I treated you a year ago and I'm thoroughly embarrassed about what I did. I was wondering how do I change the color for my talk page link in my signature i have tried to change it in the common.js but I still don't understand how. If you are to busy or this is the wrong place to ask I apologize for distracting you Tdshe/her19:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
My page "Like A Dino!" got deleted, and I want to recover it, but it took me four-five hours and I don't want to do that hard work again. And also, I want to know why it was deleted. Thank you.
@MiumiuFromBabybus: I explained why it was deleted on your talk page (it's at the bottom of the page, starting with "Deletion note"). The article made no indicatation of significance for the game and included only primary sources, none of which could be used to even determine if the article would be viable even if it was moved to draft. WP:WEBCRIT provides additional information as to the criteria for inclusion for web content to be included on Wikipedia.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots15:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Ummm... The developer of the game has a website, but hasn't been featured in news, and they didn't even got a single award, and also, they only had their game on the top most played games once. Does this fit? MiumiuFromBabybus (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
You're welcome. Writing well-sourced articles on notable topics is not easy. Some editors prefer to become more familiar with how Wikipedia works by helping out in areas needing attention first before diving into content creation. Help:Getting started has a ton of information as well you may find useful. Either way, best of luck to you on your Wikipedia adventure.-- Ponyobons mots17:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
could you please report me for vandalism? I can't trust myself with anything at this point. I have so much trouble focusing on a set of things and I get sidetracked so easily and it leads to situations that cause the to get even worse and can lead to others doing dumb things. Tdshe/her19:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
You're not a vandal, just an editor who jumped into the deep end of Wikipedia too quickly. It's common and as long as you're open to listening to what other editors have to say and are willing to learn, you will be able to find your niche here. Editing should be enjoyable, if you find yourself becoming stressed, take a break. -- Ponyobons mots20:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
This page is full of biased work. I am simply moving the "controversary" comments to the accusations section vs. redundantly adding it throughout the entire document. I made comments on talk and they are being ignored so I am editing it directly.
These pages are VERY biased. I tried the talk page but change requests are being ignored. Please unblock me so I can fix them. They redundantly talk about accusations through these pages and it ruins the story of the company. They story of the drug and the company should be allowed to be told and the accusations should be consolidated in one area. Mnachtrab (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Your abject conflict of interest has proven that you have no ability to edit the article in an unbiased fashion. The partial block allows you to continue to participate on the talk page and to explore dispute resolution (to a point). That's is as good as it's going to get for you. Many accounts in such situations are just indefinitely blocked. -- Ponyobons mots23:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Two people in Canada have a dog with the same name; it's so trivial that I have no idea how the info ever made its way into the article in the first place. Ironic that "trivia" was the only section header in an article that is begging for some structure.-- Ponyobons mots16:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Good afternoon, and sorry to pester,
You recently blocked a sock that made an appearance at AN/I. I figured it was as good a time as any to attempt an Non-admin closure. Could you briefly check to make sure this was the appropriate action and is formatted acceptably? I ask you since it's your name I mentioned on it. GabberFlasted (talk) 18:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Every time they post there it refreshes the CU data; honeypots are helpful in certain circumstances. If it gets worse I'll yank t, but it's working in our favour at the moment.-- Ponyobons mots19:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Well every edit provides CU data, so if they keep posting, the data doesn't become stale. This one is particularly dense by advertising that they were socking, but whatever. I won't complain! -- Ponyobons mots19:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Oi, I wish I knew. I've gone to their talk multiple times to suggest they stop stirring various pots with peanut gallery comments, but I just don't have the strength to deal with the likely response. -- Ponyobons mots20:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Heh, I know what you mean. They're very annoying and my guess a sock. Maybe I'm also influenced by the fact that Wikipedia has been more depressing than usual lately.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Unless someone recognizes a tell that would allow for a comparison with a suspected master, I've got nothing. This will likely go the long hard route. Yeah.-- Ponyobons mots20:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello, lately I am having problems with a certain user on the Drag Race Italia (season 2) page, as an IP user (with multiple accounts and multiple warnings), continues with edits related to the hometowns of the contestants, as has already happened at RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4).
Therefore, to avoid an unnecessary edit war, since we have to wait for at least the broadcast of the first episode, I am here to ask you if there is a possibility to protect the Drag Race Italia (season 2) page from IP address edits.
I hope you will listen to my words, because the situation is getting a little bit out of hand now (exactly nine hours before the actual airing...) --- «Ðømīnīk•Cåpuån»22:03, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Hmmm. My personal response to pretty much any "whatever shall I do" query is "pour a glass of wine". As a matter of fact, I'm logging off to do just that now!-- Ponyobons mots23:23, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi admin - Ponyo, can you please help me regarding the deletion of The Chai Walah wiki page, according to you the page meets the (CSD : G11) - Unambiguous advertising or promotion, but i think the content is not irrelevant and is encyclopedic, also i have cited all the necessary info. regarding the company with reliable sources from India and foreign, is there a way to undo this deletion, why because if you give me some time i will try to expand the article with more data and reliable sources, thank you, awaiting for your response. Sai Raghavendra Puranam (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
@Sai Raghavendra Puranam: As noted on your talk page, and by you above, WP:CSD#G11 is used to delete overly-promotional pages. "content is not relevant and is encyclopedic" and "cited all the necessary info" is unrelated to the actual deletion rationale. The page didn't just have a promotional tone, it was practically an advertisement. A small sample of the completely inappropriate content:
"Revolutionizing the Indian street-side tea experiences, The Chai Walah focuses on hygiene and quality with their every cup of freshly brewed handcrafted tea"
"Faisal picked up the ropes of tea-making, fuelled by his nostalgia and passion to trace his Indian roots"
"His friends and family noticed the zeal and enthusiasm behind his love for tea"
"Smart and Mobile, THE CHAI WALAH popup cart is a stunner"
"With a vision to transform the way how India drinks tea from a roadside tea stall by serving the most hygienic cup of chai on-the-go and disrupt the industry with cutting edge tech, The Chai Walah is striving hard to bring the best for the tealovers"
These aren't cherry-picked, the entire article was written this way. The sources are all pretty much paid placements, followed by a spammy external links section with a list of social media sites. There is nothing salvageable and the entire page was a violation of WP:NOTPROMOTION. I don't understand how an editor who has been here as long as you have, with so many edits, could write such a blatant advertisement. Do you have a conflict of interest with regard to the topic? File:The Chai Walah Founder.jpeg, which you uploaded, is a copyright violation, which I will be deleting as soon as I hit save on this post. It fails non-free content criteria number 1, specifically "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." As long as it is possible that there could be a free image of the subject available for use, or there could be one available in the future, then fair use cannot be claimed for the copyrighted image of this BLP subject.-- Ponyobons mots16:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi,I'm here to update you on the situation, since the report has been made (we are still awaiting an outcome) the IP user continues to insist with the inclusion of a source not inherent with what the table says. So, I'm a native Italian speaker and the source with which they "states" his facts actually simply links to a section related to the show on how and where to watch it in streaming (things that if you think about it have nothing to do with the competitors' hometowns).
I tried to explain the situation to them on wiki.it as well, where they have the same modus operandi and it led to the partial blocking of the page for "Editwar", the problem is that after 7 IP addresses changed (since they change every time I left a message on the Talk page) and with as many edit warnings as well, they continues with their recidivist behavior without being opening up to dialogue at all. So I'm here to kindly ask for your help in this situation, just as you fixed the big "False Authoritative Sources" flaw on "RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4)". --- «Ðømīnīk•Cåpuån»16:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
with 99,999999999999999% of certainty (a checkuser will upgrade that to 100% i'm sure), the three IPs shown in Nuno Tavares are from this lousy sock, please deal with them accordingly.
Hi Ponyo. I just ran across some concerning edits from Asphonixm [3][4], only to see you'd already discussed similar problems from this editor a few weeks ago. Had you seen the edits at Jane Russell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? I'm not sure what to make of the editing: At least this is someone that's overambitious before understanding WP:RS and WP:NOT. --Hipal (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Well i just cant see the incorrect information on her brother knowledge panel that stated they all was still alive, so i make those edit in order to added the information of their death date and death place to their panel, because sometimes edit on google panel cannot be triggered without including the information from Wikipedia as a source Asphonixm (talk) 09:33, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
@Asphonixm: Content in the google knowledge panel should never, ever, ever, be used as a source on Wikipedia. Ever. You really need to move away from trying to jam unsourced and poorly sourced biographical statistics in articles until you have a firm grasp on WP:BLP, WP:DOB, WP:BLPNAME and sourcing requirements. I see you've added "Proud to be the part of Wikipedia genealogy community" to your userpage. What community would that be? Is it a coordinated Wikiproject? Have you seen point 4 of WP:NOTDIRECTORY, which specifically states that Wikipedia is not a venue to post extensive family histories?-- Ponyobons mots20:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Let me be perfectly clear. Yamla is Emperox of UTRS. I am but a minion. On the other hand, they pull that at UTRS, and they will be banned there as well. Original account holder will need to contact T&S anyway. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
The hell with salaries. I want to be an hourly employee. An administrator union (sort of like adminion?). Collective bargaining with the big bad WMF. Additional perks like payments for each block, payments for each deleted piece of garbage page, meals on Willywheels, and a retirement pension. We can become LTAs (Liberate The Admins).--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi, can I have some assistance with user:Grahamceline please. I noticed a COI and copyright issue at article Intelitek. I added the copyvio rev del tag to the article after reverting and left a message about COI and about copyright on their talk page. I could use some assistance in explaining all this to the user if that's OK? Knitsey (talk) 15:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
@Knitsey: I've added some information and policy links for Grahamceline. I've also removed a question you had asked of them; please don't ever openly speculate on the identity of an editor outside of Wikipedia, it's considered WP:OUTING.-- Ponyobons mots16:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Can I also check, I could only find one COI template. Is there another one that doesn't mention the user name issue? Knitsey (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi, there is userpage that you had deleted at User:AudiGuy-1204/Deleted redirects/DS 7. It was originally moved from DS 7 after the user got presumably (inferring from the edit summaries of both pages) impatient after a failed requested move discussion to move DS 7 Crossback to DS 7, and possibly a request to deleted the DS 7 redirect. @AudiGuy-1204 then performed at cut and paste move, and even issued a uw to himself. It was later, within 24 hours, @A7V2 requested at WP:RM/TR to revert the move. I would like to check with you to see if there's any significant edit history at the now deleted redirect and its talk page. If there is, can you have it undeleted and do a history merge back to DS 7? A deletion of the current DS 7 page and moving the previous redirect may work as well. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 01:44, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
@Robertsky: The page was a redirect only. The first edit created a redirect to DS 7 Crossback, a second edit changed the redirect to DS7. AudiGuy then made the following three edits:
(diff) 18:23, 28 October 2022 . . AudiGuy-1204 (talk | contribs | block) m 68 bytes (AudiGuy-1204 moved page DS 7 to User:AudiGuy-1204/Deleted redirects/DS 7: Gonna move that page after facelift changing name)
(diff) 18:21, 28 October 2022 . . AudiGuy-1204 (talk | contribs | block) 68 bytes (Speedy) Tag: Removed redirectI can restore it if you want to take a look.
Hope you are doing well. I had submitted a page for creation and it was approved and since then random people keep trying it up for deletion. Anything I can do? You had helped me last time too, thank you! Itsalldestiny (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
@Itsalldestiny: My only edits to the article were to decline a speedy deletion and WP:PROD. I even specifically recommended in my edit summary that the article should be nominated for deletion if there are concerns regarding notability/sourcing. The community will review the article and discuss whether it meets the criteria for inclusion; this is the normal functioning of Wikipedia and determining consensus.-- Ponyobons mots21:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
I have to admit, I did chuckle at this for some reason. I just looked through all the edits and it seems repaired, mostly because they only seem to vandalize articles that are being actively edited. Odd pattern.ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
You chuckled because it's hilarious. It's so stunningly stupid that you have to laugh. I really like Mark Ruffalo, but I have to imagine I would love Duck Buffalo.-- Ponyobons mots22:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
I don't see any other accounts. Liberal use of semi-protection is probably the best route.; most of their target articles could use it as they're perennial targets for socking in general.-- Ponyobons mots16:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
I won't be anyone's favourite by the end of this editing session because I'm going to lose my ever-loving-mind editing from this garbage back-up laptop.-- Ponyobons mots17:26, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Appreciated as always. They claimed it was their friend, who they talked to about editing, and the friend decided to mess with them. I unblocked them with a warning not to make jokes about Nazis with friends on Wikipedia. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:27, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, got it. I wanna think about it some more. Nothing like a little procrastination to clear a fuzzy brain. Thai food tonight'll help, too.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
that the DS policy was applied unreasonably, regardless of whether it was "to the letter," and that the policy should be clarified with bright white lines that those who are not PAG experts can easily understand. The article in question was not in AP2 space, so a reasonable person would conclude it was not under DS, otherwise why even have DS notices in the first place? I stand by my characterization of the blocking editor's action, which supplements the observations of others in the thread. soibangla (talk) 22:51, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I'm well aware that you "continue to maintain". Including here, now. The IP was bang on in their response to you at the AN thread; please move along.-- Ponyobons mots23:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I am long accustomed to being told by many that I'm wrong, only to be later shown correct, and one doesn't need to look any farther than the discussion and ultimate outcome at Talk:Recession to see the perfect example of it. The entire episode was a disgrace. I've said my piece and I'm done. soibangla (talk) 23:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Just to ensure there's no misunderstanding, "I'm done" should not be broadly construed. I may in the future seek policy clarification and reform. Per policy, I may be wrong. Alternatively, maybe the policy is wrong. I believe it is. soibangla (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Our time zones don't jive; they've likely moved on to another IP by now. If they pop back up or hit that article again let me know.-- Ponyobons mots16:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
The user appeared to be spamming "unblock me" or other vandalism with no reason provided. I will leave such things in the future, but did not appear constructive. TY. —Moops⋠T⋡19:40, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
@Moops: There was some inappropriate stuff on the page for sure, but an editor posting "unblock me" after being blocked doesn't need to be reverted. Not a big deal, but I notice a tendency for patrollers to revert just about anything a blocked editor posts on their talk page regardless of the nature of the post, which generally leads to a needless revert war. It's like WP:RBI without the "I". Just something to keep in mind.-- Ponyobons mots19:51, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Hey. I know it's an unusual move, any chance you could short term protect Talk:Cyber Anakin/Archive 1? I know we don't normally protect talk page archives, but this editor has been trying to remove comments from the archive history for the last three weeks now. Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Perfect. Yeah, ideally only the archive bot should be editing the page. Alas I've had to add this archive to my watchlist as it comes up every so often. Thanks for the actions :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:52, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
But I'm more into South American reds these days, and I didn't have one with me. I did buy one tonight though to celebrate something, and brought an extra to share. Also lemonade for Bbb, since he won't join us with the malbec. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:13, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
I didn't understand any of this at first except the word lemonade. I thought South American reds might be tropical birds, which seemed to tie in nicely to the word "malbec" (bad beak?), although I didn't know that Tony collected tropical birds. I was subsequently enlightened, though buying tropical birds seemed far more interesting than South American red wine. I am impressed that Tony remembers I don't drink. I tend to forget that when I'm drunk on OJ.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:45, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
I was disappointed, on following the link in your message, that it's just about your hair. I had thought it might be a more interesting kind of red. However, it's one more little piece of information about you to add to the file I'm building up... JBW (talk) 23:43, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Come to think of it, in North America "red" has another meaning, totally out of keeping with my wife and daughter, so maybe they aren't North American reds after all. JBW (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
An unblock request
Hi, Jez. Mohammed Haq has made several requests at UTRS for an unblock request against a block you imposed quite a while ago. In the past, his requests have been declined, rightly, in my opinion, but I am more disposed towards accepting the latest one. At my suggestion, he has now moved his latest unblock request to User talk:Mohammed Haq If you feel inclined to comment on the request, please do. JBW (talk) 23:43, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
ANI. reign in the incivility You mean "rein". "reign" is what you do at Wikipedia. and they're continuing to edit was as well I can't parse that one. Happy Day After American Thanksgiving!--Bbb23 (talk) 19:20, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
I am so sorry. I have chronic insomnia, but lately it's reached a new low. It gets so bad that I start nodding off when I'm doing certain things. Maybe it's only people who live near the strait. Something in the air?--Bbb23 (talk) 21:06, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Request for temporary protection to my user talk page, again
Would it be possible to request to have temporary protection to my user talk page again? Because I've received quite a few messages recently, and none of them were of any value. (If you check the last few that I've received, you'll know why I've labelled them as not having any value. The last message was in fact reverted by none other than yourself) I was thinking of requesting that my talk page be temporarily protected so that only users with autoconfirmed status and up can post messages on my user talk page. ― C.Syde(talk | contribs)05:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
I normally don't protect user talk pages for any longer than necessary to stop immediate disruption (see my protection log for my talk page as an example). As your talk page hasn't been targeted since the 25th, the need for protection has passed. If you still think protection is warranted, you can make a request at WP:RFPP.-- Ponyobons mots20:07, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Normally you won't be blocked by requesting it. Blocks are meant to be issued to prevent vandalism and disruption to the wiki. So they are almost always issued against the offending user's will, or without the user asking for it. ― C.Syde(talk | contribs)11:07, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
I looked at this post before you responded, and it seems like the OP is talking about a non-Wikimedia project. Am I right? If so, what does it have to do with you? Did someone create an account with your username on that wiki and the OP, an admin on that wiki (?), was making sure it wasn't you personally? If so, how can a user of a wiki that you have nothing to do with "impersonate" you in the sense we mean at en.wiki?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
All I know is that I didn't create the account, which was the only question asked. Everything else is very much "not my circus, not my monkey". I might pretend I know everything, but it's all a façade.-- Ponyobons mots16:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Ribbesford House
I am unaware of who Ribbesford is but it should be noted that they are currently linking to this article from a FB Group that are currently being sued for defamation and harassment in the high court for £m's (KB-2021-000067 - they are clearly trying to use this page to inflict more damage to individuals and the determination with which they are doing it is worrisome given they are already facing significant legal action as a result of their activities. I would request that the article is reverted to that which you had previously locked and lock it down. Work restarted on this building in October 2022 following a pause due to the Covid Pandemic. Keepingittrue (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Ok, I've blocked both of you from editing the article directly as this is clearly a real-world dispute that has spilled over to our article, which is not appropriate for our readers. Please follow dispute resolution (and be aware of our policy regarding legal threats when discussion legal matters).-- Ponyobons mots19:08, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Many thanks for the prompt response and noted on all counts. I thought it best to bring to you than start again! Although, I do fear others will pick up the mantle. Many thanks. Keepingittrue (talk) 19:14, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
We have a policy regarding misuse of multiple accounts, which you can read here. The article is on my watchlist, so if new accounts pop up to pick up the dispute I will be aware.-- Ponyobons mots19:16, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
No one using their own knowledge on Wikipedia and I tried many time to make my own citation but they also reverted so I stopped using my ref ,citation so stop giving me excuse. Bhagruti (talk) 03:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm concerned that you don't have the necessary competence in English to edit here effectively. If you cannot communicate with other editors, then it would be better to contribute to the Wikimedia project in your native language. I cannot parse what you are trying to say above at all.-- Ponyobons mots17:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
You can't because they are not there. Please remove your erroneous warning AT ONCE. You are better than this, or you would not be an admin.Shajure (talk) 00:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
And I'll also note here, as I did on your talk page, that I have never seen an editor with the length of tenure and number of edits as yourself have a message on their talk page that is so completely opposite to what is expected on a collaborative project.-- Ponyobons mots00:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
I ran into work of this editor as well and couldn't believe they were as experienced as they were when they were acting this way. I was wondering if the account was compromised. LizRead!Talk!01:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I doubt it's compromised, it just seems to be their nature. Take this user page edit from 2016 where they pretty much brag about all of the accounts they've had over the years. Did you see that Bbb23? Hard to imagine much good faith with little trolls here and there like that.-- Ponyobons mots16:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
No, I did not. It also looks like they thought about retiring that one as well. Makes me regret that I didn't block them indefinitely. Also makes me wonder if they'll create another account in the future rather than continuing to, uh, contribute under their current (only?) account.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I agree with content of your post in my talk page but I do not agree with admin who blocked my account during two days: no bad word or insult by my account, never and never. Bye Forza bruta (talk) 00:29, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
We found a ball in our backyard, but don't worry, we were on it. We kicked it up to the street (who knew we were soccer champs?), kicked it up the street to the front of our house, picked it up (even though it was filthy - nothing frightens us...except lions and tigers and bears, oh my), and deposited it in our trash can. We're still wondering how it got there in the first place. There's something very profound lurking in this story that connects to revocation of TPA, but I'm still working that out.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:03, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
From a distance, it looked a bit like a battered disco ball based on the coloring, but no, it was not. What I want to know is how you managed to lob it over the strait.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
How about coincidences? Can you handle one of those? I left a note to myself yesterday to mark an image for deletion on Commons. The evidence I used in the deletion discussion was partially based on talk page comments by the article subject. When I actually read through the later comments on that page, guess who figures promimently? It's....you!-- Ponyobons mots19:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
I can't handle anything but high-quality desserts. My god, that's a discussion from the past. I noticed the fact that you left a note-to-self yesterday, and I thought, boy, is she getting old absent-minded, using her Talk page for reminders...when did that start?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
That was new? What'd you do to it before your awesome drop kick? Beat it up? You need to learn to control your anger.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:34, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Not true; I did appreciate it! As did my neighbor who thought it might be an alien pod. I guess she believes in very small aliens.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
AK The WikiEditor is on Disney Star and a couple of other articles, making the same kind of edits as accounts you've blocked in the past. Would you mind taking a look? On at least one they waited until after semi-protection ended, so may be worth putting back on the articles. Ravensfire (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
I don't think Ponyo is here this week, but it was an easy block. I don't suppose you know the name of the master, Ravensfire? Ponyo is clearly keeping it to herself.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
I don't believe you; we all know you're omniscient. What are you doing here anyway? It's Saturday AND Christmas Eve Day. We've been snowed in for a while, but it's finally melting. Yay! Happy Holidays!--Bbb23 (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm here on a weekend/holiday because we've been snowed in as well and my brain is atrophying. I've read all of House of Leaves in the last few days and I need some metal stimulation outside of a book. Please don't kick me off the wiki! -- Ponyobons mots17:18, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Hey
I think that Template:Uw-paid1 needs some work, but before making a proposal, I'm trying to find out what causes people to choose this one, instead of a different template. I notice that you posted it at User talk:Rechner8#Paid editing disclosures required a while ago. Do you remember why you thought that this person was specifically being paid, rather than having a non-paid COI (e.g., a friend or family member)?
@WhatamIdoing: I use the COI warning the (vast) majority of times unless there are specific signs that it's paid editing rather than a more general conflict of interest (e.g. recreation of articles linked to paid editing and UPE sockfarms, creation of multiple spammy articles that have been written and saved in one go with full wiki markup by a brand new editor, gaming autoconfirmed to move their own drafts directly to mainspace and a general rush to publish) . With the example you mention, it's likely the latter two indicators that let to the paid warning.-- Ponyobons mots17:00, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Saving articles in one go suggests writing them offline, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Being in a hurry (it's "published" as far as we're concerned as soon as they click the "Publish pages" button, even if it's in Draft: or User: space) could be enthusiasm, but I'd expect to see that from someone who's getting paid by the piece (until they read this and decide that being slow is a way to trick us). Anyone using the visual editor (this particular editor was) will always have correct wikitext markup, so that's only a possible tell if the editor isn't using the visual editor.
I don't know if it's still true, but when the ACPERM limits went into effect in 2018, we saw a lot of spammy articles being posted on the 11th edit, always in the old wikitext editor.
How would you describe the difference between "gaming autoconfirmed" to move a draft to the mainspace, and "following the rules" to move a draft to the mainspace? Last I checked, it's officially okay for editors to do that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:54, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
WhatamIdoing my response to your question was a very general explanation as to why I may choose to use the paid editing template vs the conflict of interest template. There's also the element of intuition developed from dealing with UPE sockfarms for nearly a decade. I'm comfortable with my decisions. -- Ponyobons mots23:41, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
I've got no reason to believe you're wrong, in this case or any other, but my goal is to update the template and its documentation so that it's helpful to editors who don't yet have a decade of experience. I find that it's often difficult for less experienced editors to know whether they're responding to "intuition" or "bias". I think a checklist approach would be a disaster (e.g., the article I created most recently was "written and saved in one go with full wiki markup", though I hope you won't think it spammy, and I doubt I'd be mistaken for a brand-new account for very long), but surely there is something we could say that provides a little more support to editors than telling them to trust their guesses. Do you remember the "sting operation" about a decade ago, when experienced editors pretended to be newbies creating their first article? It turned out that our intuition about what was notable had a lot more to do with the halo effect and WP:IKNOWIT than was really comfortable to consider. Consequently, I was hoping that I could learn from you something more solid than that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:42, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}}
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