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I see that a few portals now use <center>. Although readable and effective, that is deprecated. I'm not sure what the recommended replacement is: probably something involving <div style="margin: auto">. Certes (talk) 15:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-13T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Certes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Certes-2020-11-13T15:10:00.000Z-Center","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-11-28T18:18:00.000Z-Certes-2020-11-13T15:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Certes: I like the <center> function, because it's so easy to use. Hopefully it still continues to function despite being deprecated. However, this:
– Seems to be fine. North America100018:18, 28 November 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-28T18:18:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-11-28T18:18:00.000Z-Certes-2020-11-13T15:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Certes-2020-11-28T20:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-11-28T18:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
I just noticed {{Center|Hello world!}} which can be maintained in one place if the recommendation changes. Certes (talk) 20:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-28T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Certes","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Certes-2020-11-28T20:06:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-11-28T18:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-11-30T01:48:00.000Z-Certes-2020-11-28T20:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks, forgot about that one. It also works when "center" is spelled as "centre". North America100001:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-30T01:48:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-11-30T01:48:00.000Z-Certes-2020-11-28T20:06:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
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So, R.I.P. Howard Wales. Have you heard either of the albums he recorded with Jerry Garcia? (Here's Hooteroll?!) — Mudwater (Talk)21:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-10T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mudwater-2020-12-10T21:26:00.000Z-Howard_Wales","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-16T06:20:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-10T21:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Mudwater: Never really looked into much of that. Nice crisp studio sound there. Folks say that the live jams are where it's at, though. Yep. North America100006:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-16T06:20:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-16T06:20:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-10T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mudwater-2020-12-16T23:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-16T06:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
Yes, I think that's right, the live jams would be where it's at. Maybe Side Trips, Volume One will be reissued some day. Or perhaps it's out there somewhere on a file sharing site. I know nothing of such matters, however. — Mudwater (Talk)23:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-16T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mudwater-2020-12-16T23:23:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-16T06:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:00:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-16T23:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Mudwater: Sounds like you'd like to get your hands on that album, or maybe that you haven't heard it. For informational purposes for you (no, I'm not shilling for Amazon, or for deceased musicians), it's available on Amazon in MP3 format and CD (link). It's also available in streaming, which appears to be free if you have an Amazon account. If you hear it or get it, then you can consider improving the Side Trips, Volume One article a bit if you're into that, or if you haven't heard it yet, etc. North America100001:00, 17 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:00:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-16T23:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mudwater-2020-12-17T01:27:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
In hindsight, my previous post was kind of ambiguous. I have the CD, having bought it when it came out. But, thanks for the tips. Re Amazon, yes, they have it on CD, but from third-party sellers and a considerable markup. I've bought new and used CDs from Amazon third-party sellers, and on eBay too. But I don't get pricey ones. I'm too cheap frugal for that. Anyway, I haven't listened to my copy for a while, so that's on my "to do" list. — Mudwater (Talk)01:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T01:27:00.000Z","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Mudwater-2020-12-17T01:27:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:38:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-17T01:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Mudwater: Now I see. Cheers! North America100001:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-17T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:38:00.000Z-Mudwater-2020-12-17T01:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mudwater-2020-12-18T01:42:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
Actually, here's all four tracks of Side Trips, Volume One, on YouTube. 1234— Mudwater (Talk)01:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T01:42:00.000Z","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Mudwater-2020-12-18T01:42:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-17T01:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi Northamerica1000, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia, –Davey2010Talk20:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-23T20:02:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davey2010-2020-12-23T20:02:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas_2","replies":[]}}-->
Slow as Christmas!!
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@BOZ, Davey2010, Atsme, Donner60, FeydHuxtable, and Coolabahapple: Thanks so much for the holiday cheer, and a cheery holiday season to you all as well. Stay safe and hope you all have a great 2021! North America100011:19, 26 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T11:19:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T11:19:00.000Z-Happy_XMAS","replies":[],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
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I was going to close this as a procedural keep based on your input (and looking at the delete !votes), but would that be considered a !supervote?Onel5969TT me01:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-18T01:12:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Onel5969-2020-12-18T01:12:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Miss_Nicaragua_2001","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T12:24:00.000Z-Onel5969-2020-12-18T01:12:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Onel5969: Maybe, maybe not, depends on how various folks would interpret such as close, per their own stances, viewpoints, etc. toward such as close. As a non-admin closure, people could possibly be more apt to consider it as a supervote. I guess it's moot at this point anyway, since Missvain closed the discussion already. North America100012:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T12:24:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T12:24:00.000Z-Onel5969-2020-12-18T01:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2020-12-26T13:58:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T12:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
Thanks for the response. It may be moot regarding that particular discussion, but I could always use your above guidance if I come across a similar situation. Onel5969TT me13:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Onel5969-2020-12-26T13:58:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T12:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I found this beautiful 2016 template, and re-gifting it back to its creator seemed à propos!
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Hello Northamerica1000: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, — WILDSTARtalk23:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-29T23:07:00.000Z","author":"WildStar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WildStar-2020-12-29T23:07:00.000Z-I_found_this_beautiful_2016_template,_and_re-gifting_it_back_to_its_creator_seem","replies":[]}}-->
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FYI: I was bold, so I merged and redirected per your closure. Bearian (talk) 22:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-24T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Bearian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bearian-2020-12-24T22:40:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Kuwait_Medical_Professionals","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T11:15:00.000Z-Bearian-2020-12-24T22:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Bearian: Thanks for following through on it, and happy holidays to you and yours. North America100011:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T11:15:00.000Z-Bearian-2020-12-24T22:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bearian-2021-01-06T15:38:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T11:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
@Northamerica1000:, Happy New Year to you and yours. Bearian (talk) 15:38, 6 January 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-06T15:38:00.000Z","author":"Bearian","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bearian-2021-01-06T15:38:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-26T11:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I have that feature turned on that strikes out contributors who have been blocked. And, when I reviewed an old discussion recently, I noticed that SwisterTwister's wikiID was overstruck.
My recollection was that they could be unpleasant and accusatory, so I looked into why they were blocked.
Sockpuppetry.
I requested a listing of articles both SwisterTwister and their sockpuppet, Trampton had edited. Your talk page was one of the pages where both wikiIDs overlapped, within a short period.
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It seems to me they were using sockpuppetry to target you. I hate sockpuppetry. Maybe you already knew this. But, in case you didn't... Geo Swan (talk) 05:56, 9 January 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-09T05:56:00.000Z","author":"Geo Swan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geo_Swan-2021-01-09T05:56:00.000Z-FWIW_Trampton_and_SwisterTwister_sockpuppetry","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2021-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Geo_Swan-2021-01-09T05:56:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Geo Swan: Yep, I was aware of the sock posting on my page at the time, after the SPI, that is, which someone else initiated. North America100022:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-11T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2021-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Geo_Swan-2021-01-09T05:56:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
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Walter Elmer Schofield, Across the River (1904), Carnegie Museum of Art.
Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2021.
Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T13:13:00.000Z","author":"BoringHistoryGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BoringHistoryGuy-2020-12-26T13:13:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year!_3","replies":[]}}-->
Oneupsmanship: This painting turned the friendly rivalry between Edward Redfield and Elmer Schofield into a feud. Schofield was a frequent houseguest at Redfield's farm, upstream from New Hope, Pennsylvania, and the two would go out painting together, competing to capture the better view. Redfield served on the jury for the 1904 Annual Exhibition of the Carnegie Institute; at which, despite Redfield's opposition, Across the River was awarded the Gold Medal and $1,500 prize. It was not until a 1963 interview that the 93-year-old Redfield revealed the painting as the cause of the 40-year feud between them. Schofield may have painted it in England, but a blindsided Redfield knew that this was a view of the Delaware River, from his own front yard!
@BoringHistoryGuy: Thanks for the holiday greeting. Them's the breaks for Redfield, eh? Well, there have been a lot of Category:Feuds throughout history, and they will likely just continue onward forever. North America100006:23, 29 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-29T06:23:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2020-12-29T06:23:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year!_3","replies":["c-BoringHistoryGuy-2020-12-29T13:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-29T06:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
The specifics demonstrate Schofield's virtuosity (and cunning). He painted it in England (probably from sketches and memory). He submitted it to an exhibition where Redfield was on the jury (and was outvoted). Redfield would be the only one to understand what he had done, at least initially. And complaining about it would just make Redfield look weak.
Still, Redfield may have gotten his revenge. His paintings regularly sell for 3X as much as Schofield's (although I find Schofield the more dynamic painter). == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-29T13:12:00.000Z","author":"BoringHistoryGuy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BoringHistoryGuy-2020-12-29T13:12:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2020-12-29T06:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-BoringHistoryGuy-2021-01-01T21:10:00.000Z-BoringHistoryGuy-2020-12-29T13:12:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for your addition to Walter Elmer Schofield. My impression (Am I wrong?) is that having a gallery of images all the way across the page is not optimal for hand-held devises. Can one use "<gallery perrow=5>" on a packed gallery?
First day of 2021, and nothing bad (so far). Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:10, 1 January 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-01T21:10:00.000Z","author":"BoringHistoryGuy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BoringHistoryGuy-2021-01-01T21:10:00.000Z-BoringHistoryGuy-2020-12-29T13:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2021-01-03T05:34:00.000Z-BoringHistoryGuy-2021-01-01T21:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
@BoringHistoryGuy: I'm not sure. One would think that at the end of the right side of the screen, any remaining images would then just auto-perrow onto the next line, as occurs when using wikipedia on a computer and the packed mode is present in a gallery. I don't surf using a phone, so I won't be checking how it looks. North America100005:34, 3 January 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-03T05:34:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2021-01-03T05:34:00.000Z-BoringHistoryGuy-2021-01-01T21:10:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 January. It will be on all wikis from 21 January (calendar).
MassMessage posts could be automatically timestamped in the future. This is because MassMessage senders can now send pages using MassMessage. Pages are more difficult to sign. If there are times when a MassMessage post should not be timestamped you can let the developers know.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Bracket matching will be added to the CodeMirror syntax highlighter on the first wikis. The first wikis are German and Catalan Wikipedia and maybe other Wikimedia wikis. This will happen on 27 January. [17]
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IPv6 addresses were written in lowercase letters in diffs. This caused dead links since Special:Contributions only accepted uppercase letters for the IPs. This has been fixed. [18]
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You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource. [19]
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Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like 1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55 as well as the 1.2.3.4/27 syntax for IP ranges. [22]
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikipedia app for Android now has watchlists and talk pages in the app. [25]
Changes later this week
You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis. [26]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).
Future changes
When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones. [27][28]
Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [29]
Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead. [30]
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
There were problems with recent versions of MediaWiki. Because the updates caused problems the developers rolled back to an earlier version. Some updates and new functions will come later than planned. [31][32]
Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [33]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images. [34]
Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly. [36]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 February. It will be on all wikis from 25 February (calendar).
Future changes
There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.
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Hi! I need Octavian Popescu (footballer, born 2002) to be moved to Octavian Popescu. Please help me, thanks! --End-of-season-updates (talk) 18:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-02T18:47:00.000Z","author":"End-of-season-updates","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-End-of-season-updates-2021-02-02T18:47:00.000Z-Need_a_page_move","replies":["c-Northamerica1000-2021-02-08T04:19:00.000Z-End-of-season-updates-2021-02-02T18:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
@End-of-season-updates: I'm going to pass on becoming involved in this. You can post a request at WP:RM if you'd like. North America100004:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-08T04:19:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2021-02-08T04:19:00.000Z-End-of-season-updates-2021-02-02T18:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"North America"}}-->
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