The first dawn of a new year . . .

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...with just a herd of sunbathing trees standing in the way.....

Best wishes Martin for a happy and healthy 2015
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Hafspajen (talk) 11:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC) WARNING: Marty if you put that thing from Paley's on my page I will bite you. Hafspajen (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC) MARTY!!!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-01T11:12:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-01T11:12:00.000Z-A_herd_of_sheep_too","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-01T12:11:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-01T11:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

... phew, lucky I changed that colour! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-01T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-01T12:11:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-01T11:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Have sheperd instead. Hafspajen (talk) 12:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-01T12:43:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-01T12:43:00.000Z-A_herd_of_sheep_too","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Martinevans123,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
From a fellow editor,
--FWiW Bzuk (talk)

This message promotes WikiLove. Originally created by Nahnah4 (see "invisible note").

In Your Own Sweet Way
Thank you for quality contributions to articles on churches and halls in Wales, filled with music, for treating In Your Own Sweet Way in your own sweet way, for a clear view on "a poorly-run bureaucracy with the group dynamics of a cult ... marks will be deducted for obvious expressions of exasperation or humour" - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-03T23:15:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2013-01-03T23:15:00.000Z-Precious_again","replies":[]}}-->

Two years ago, you were the 354th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-04T18:45:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:45:00.000Z-Precious_again","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-04T18:46:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks so much, I always appreciate a well-placed pumpkin. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-04T18:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-04T18:46:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:57:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-04T18:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Then you will like Cucurbita. How about BWV 22, comments (and support, of course) welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-04T18:57:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:57:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-04T18:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-09T21:19:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Was supported enough ;) - Next Palladio as you were so kind to notice (yesterday and tomorrow), - need some solid source for what everybody seems to know about Diamonds, - help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-09T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-09T21:19:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-01-04T18:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-09T21:25:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-09T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

How very cryptic. You mean the precious collection? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-09T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-09T21:25:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-09T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-10T09:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-09T21:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes. Do you see a source there? I found lots of ice-scaters using the same music, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T09:37:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-10T09:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-09T21:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos Torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos Torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T15:07:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2015-01-06T15:07:00.000Z-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T15:09:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2015-01-06T15:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

How lovely! Does that come with eels at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T15:09:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2015-01-06T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T15:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

When Stan first "gave" me a dodgy Dobos Torte, I read it as Dublin tart. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:31:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah-ha. What I really need is a good man-sized meat pie made with Nazi super cows!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T18:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:31:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mmm ... not so keen on beef sausages ... pork is my choice. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:46:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

And who said anything about sausages?! Even the Continental variety??! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T18:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:46:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T19:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh no! Not one of his guests! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:29, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T19:29:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T19:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T18:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T19:43:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T19:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

And talking of Graham and sausages: [1]. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T19:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T19:43:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T19:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T20:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T19:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

So funny. I loved the graduate's expression throughout the clip. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T20:27:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-06T20:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-06T19:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

These bands i put there are Southern Rock bands, ZZ Top played with them on several occasions. I am a huge ZZ Top fan and i know they belong there, Wiki Elvis (talk) 23:28, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-07T23:28:00.000Z","author":"Wiki Elvis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wiki_Elvis-2015-01-07T23:28:00.000Z-bands_at_zz_top_page","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-07T23:39:00.000Z-Wiki_Elvis-2015-01-07T23:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Congratulations on your discerning musical support. But you might want to discuss that at the article's Talk Page and gain consensus for your addition. Personally, I'd certainly expect to see those bands playing on the same bill, perhaps many times. But I'm not sure that is sufficient qualification for the "Associated Acts" parameter of the infobox. You might first want to have a look at how that's defined at Template:Infobox musical artist. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-07T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-07T23:39:00.000Z-Wiki_Elvis-2015-01-07T23:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Strewth, Bruce! Looking mighty fine for a Sheila. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-08T18:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-08T18:59:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":[]}}-->

Brother, you are right about that... Hafspajen (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-09T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-09T14:18:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T10:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-09T14:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Take a look at ‎this. Hafspajen (talk) 10:55, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T10:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-09T14:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T11:20:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T10:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, what a fine article. Very interesting. Great work. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC) ... alas I now can't stop fiddling with it... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T11:20:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T10:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

DON*T. Hafspajen (talk) 11:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T11:58:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":[]}}-->

Mary, tha was 54 symbolism... Hafspajen (talk) 13:38, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T14:32:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

... but don't call me Mary, I'm not a virgin, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:32, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T14:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T14:32:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

But I brought you a parrot ... and a Boar-head... Hafspajen (talk) 16:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T16:19:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not yet another Norwegian Blue, I hope. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC) ... and it's a bit late for all that nonsense!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T16:19:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well, I am affraid it might be. What Jane should have done, was to take thar parrot and hit him in the head with it. But the of course, we would have never had Queen Elisabeth. But somehow I belive the reason why E, never married was because she had to look at close quarters at daddy acting Blue beard. Hafspajen (talk) 16:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Haha. You made me think of him. Filippo Miller, pintore (talk) 16:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T16:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T13:38:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Filippo Miller, pintore"}}-->

(edit conflict)::Yes Marty, sources say that he is looking at infinity. The Google book. Hafspajen (talk) 20:38, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:36:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, I need to put on my glasses. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't often wear White Tights. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:36:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

O dear, you are just as Dangerous anyway. Hafspajen (talk) 20:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T14:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try to borrow a pair from Alistair. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Alistair - recommens nowadays checkered skirts to keep up with the fashion of the upper Wiki 1000 .... 21:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Hafspajen (talk)

Hafs! You're getting as tortuously cryptic as me! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T22:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Gnothi seauton, Master. Hafspajen (talk) 22:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T22:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

WEll, I might just say it. Hafspajen (talk) 23:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T21:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T23:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

I guess cramming nationalities into tiny boxes doesn't always work. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2015 (UTC)... Reverend Lloyd wasn't really Welsh you know, he was a merry honest sire.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-10T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T23:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T23:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Marty, as the upper Wiki-1000 - will you look at this draft. We need jokes. I am afraid Adam is probably not going to edit [this] edition much, so we are on our own. Be a good brother, and help. You get free hands to add at least two jokes per entry. (except Mishelle, she is WP:BLP). Today is the last day (officially). You made such a good job on Goethe too.. Hafspajen (talk) 12:31, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-11T12:31:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-10T20:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

And ...I will never call you Mary again, promise. The Upper TenHafspajen (talk) 12:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-11T12:33:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-11T14:27:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ok yes, I'll try and take a look. I'm a bit busy right now with Francesco Rosi who I would very much like to see at ITN. I think he influenced a whole generation of realist film makers. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-11T14:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-11T14:27:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T12:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Praise the Lord. Just be yourself. Hafspajen (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-11T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T14:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-11T22:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T14:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks fine, as far as I can see. I'm sure you don't need any more jokes! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-11T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-11T22:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-11T14:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

But we DO: People are now expecting to be amused. Hafspajen (talk) 14:54, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-10T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T15:03:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T15:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T16:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

"I didn't get where I am today by expecting to be amused, Reggie!" Martinevans123 (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T15:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T15:03:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Marty, this is how it should look like. We are hopelessly boring. Hafspajen (talk) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T15:55:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T15:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T16:01:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T15:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Our fame is going down the drain: ICYINOGT start to be funny, please. Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T16:01:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T16:01:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T15:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Otherwise I have to start to be funny, and how is going to like?? Hafspajen (talk) 16:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T16:17:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T16:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T14:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Lady in white (Toorop). Hafspajen (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T20:59:00.000Z-Godt_Nytaar!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, almost as beautiful as that other artistic gem. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:10, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T21:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Llollipop.Hafspajen (talk) 21:28, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T21:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-12T21:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"Snowed-on" confectionery? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T16:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T21:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The poster from the 1867 Paris production does not include a quote, but, if you know the original French version, there is a scene (which is not in the "standard", later Italian ones) in which the king arrives in time to see Rodrigo die. Hope this helps. Viva-Verdi (talk) 00:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T00:46:00.000Z","author":"Viva-Verdi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Viva-Verdi-2015-01-12T00:46:00.000Z-Don_Carlos","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T13:22:00.000Z-Viva-Verdi-2015-01-12T00:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was just thrown by a single set of quote marks at the end. I've now replaced with parentheses. Does this mean that the scene depicted in the poster is one that was taken from the 1846 Philippe II, Roi d'Espagne play by Eugène Cormon? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-12T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-12T13:22:00.000Z-Viva-Verdi-2015-01-12T00:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I wonder if you could give some encouragement to our mutual friend Ritchie here. He and I have put a lot of work into it and I really don't want to start over. He hasn't had a chance to respond but maybe you can put in a good word to get him in a positive mood again. EEng (talk) 05:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T05:07:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-13T05:07:00.000Z-Lend_a_hand?","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-13T12:48:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T05:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

I need to repeat this request. Can you please come help get this back on track? Or maybe you'd like to take over the review. EEng (talk) 12:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC) And for once in your life be serious this time, okay?[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T12:48:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-13T12:48:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T05:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T14:16:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T12:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry "busy in real life"..... but, as you are so keen....

1. If was being serious, I'd say there is no time limit.

2. I'm reluctant to ever be serious about anything at Wikipedia any more (ever).

3. 1-3 may be read in any order.

I'll try and take a look later. Having managed to get one article to GA status in the space of five years, I think your confidence in my abilities in this regard may be entirely misplaced! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T14:16:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T12:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-13T15:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T14:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Start at the end of the page. EEng (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC) I suppose this is what the article should read like to qualify for GA.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T15:11:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-13T15:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T14:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T15:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

That looks decidedly fishy to me. As you know, I am far more comfortable with anal dilators, Korean nut-sacks and grilled burger executives. I'll trade you one ITN RD support vote for two GA review points. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:08, 13 January 2015 (UTC) ... or else ask this guy - he churns them out like he's shelling peas.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T15:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-13T18:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

All I want is a straight GA review, according to the GA requirements. EEng (talk) 18:06, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T18:06:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-13T18:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T16:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T18:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

@The Rambling Man: could do it, as could @Wizardman: or @Yoninah:. If anyone of those three comes back with a summary that could be paraphrased as "the article's fine, EEng is right, Ritchie is an arse" I will eat humble pie and put the review back on. I can't really say fairer than that. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-13T18:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-14T02:37:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T18:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

They might very well say there are still GA violations, but if they do I hope they'll say which piece of text violates what sections of GACR. I like you a lot, Ritchie, but for some reason there's a disconnect here. EEng (talk) 02:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-14T02:37:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-14T02:37:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mmm, tasty! Fancy a slice, anyone? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-13T18:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-13T18:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-01-13T18:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"You'll get nothing straight from me, young man, you pesky kant!!" - A man who well can't.

You can have Stephen or Spencer take a look. Also, I did start a discussion on the talk page about RD being stale. Any admin who posted there is at least watching the page. It's normal to have noms go up with just three supports (here we have four and the nom, and my implied support) and no objections that haven't been answered. μηδείς (talk) 20:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-14T20:30:00.000Z","author":"Medeis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Medeis-2015-01-14T20:30:00.000Z-Rosi","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-14T20:44:00.000Z-Medeis-2015-01-14T20:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03bc\u03b7\u03b4\u03b5\u03af\u03c2"}}-->

Yes, even his memorial service has now past on Monday: [2]. Thanks for you support. But I see our friend Rambler has now done the decent thing. So "All Swell that End Swill" as they say in Stratford. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-14T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-14T20:44:00.000Z-Medeis-2015-01-14T20:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

	Happy 22 January
	Happy Don`t worry be happy Day for you! Hafspajen (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T17:46:00.000Z-Happy_Day","replies":[]}}-->

I think I nailed down your Hu-translate-connections...Hafspajen (talk) 17:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T17:56:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T17:56:00.000Z-Happy_Day","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T18:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T17:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

King Edward scales the hills of Wales

Upon his stallion.

"Hear my decree! I want to see

My new dominion.

"Show me the yield of every field,

The grain, the grass, the wood!

Is all the land now moist and rich

With red rebellious blood?

"And are the Welsh, God's gift, the Welsh,

A peaceful, happy folk?

I want them pleased, just like the beast

They harness in the yoke."

"Sire, this jewel in your crown,

Your Wales, is fair and good:

Rich is the yield of every field

The grassland and the wood.

How amazing. Thanks so much for posting this! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T18:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T18:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T17:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T19:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T18:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Rather flashy, isn't i? It has a kind of stange power and athmosphere that one... Hafspajen (talk) 19:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T19:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T18:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Deep silence falls upon the halls,

And lo, before their eyes

They see an old man, white as snow,

An ancient bard to rise:

"I shall recite your glorious deeds

Just as you bid me, Sire."

And death rattles in grim battles

As he touches the lyre.

"Grim death rattles, the brave battles,

And blood bestains the sun,

Your deeds reek high, up to the sky:

You are the guilty one!

"Our dead are plenty as the corn

When harvest is begun, And as we reap and glean, we weep: You did this, guilty one!"

"Off to the stake!" the king commands,

"This was churlishly hard.

Sing us, you there, a softer air,

You, young and courtly bard!"

Great. Wish I would know how to make two rows. Hafspajen (talk) 19:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T19:08:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-22T19:08:00.000Z-Happy_Day","replies":[]}}-->

Admit it: I am the unchallenged KING of edgy hooks. [3] EEng (talk) 19:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T19:20:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-22T19:20:00.000Z-Bow_down_to_me!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T19:33:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-22T19:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

aka "King Edge the Awesome".... allegedly. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-22T19:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-22T19:33:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-22T19:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[4] EEng (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T01:22:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T01:22:00.000Z-Sex_for_profit","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T08:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T01:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

"... many people responded with confusion or repulsion." - doesn't sound that tasty, does it. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T08:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T08:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T01:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T15:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T08:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

This has completely run off the rails -- see also here. He just won't say what the problems are. If I renominate, will do a review, please? The review will go much more smoothly if it sticks to the criteria. Or, maybe better, can we talk first about what you think he's talking about? If there's actually I problem I want to fix it, but all I get is these vague statements, which I try to address, and then more vague statements. EEng (talk) 15:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T15:24:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T15:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T08:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T19:31:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T15:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

"The problems with quotations and images are still there" - I think maybe that sums up Ritchies's view? And he's got pressing real-life commitments it seems. We ought to heartily thank him for helping to get the article nearer to GA status. There are no time limits on these things, are there? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T19:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T19:31:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T15:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No, there's no time limit, so if he doesn't have time now we can just suspend until he's ready again. Or we can find another reviewer to take over. But instead he's just failed the article after all this work. Keep in mind the reason the review was so big and went on so long is that so many (most even) of the points he raised weren't related to the WP:GACR. But here we are.

So "the problems with quotations and images are still there." Great. But what, specifically, are those problems??? Seriously, please help me understand. Start at [5] and tell me -- is there any issue he raised that I didn't respond to? And of my responses, is there any he objected to or pushed back on? Can you tell what problems, specifically, he's talking about? Or, put another way, Can you tell me what changes Ritchie is saying are needed to meet GA? If you can't answer that, then you'll understand my frustration -- I can't answer that either. EEng (talk) 21:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:34:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T21:34:00.000Z-Sex_for_profit","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T21:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

An image without a caption??! That's like a tequila without the salt!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC) or the lemon[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T21:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Can you please be serious for a bit? Not every image has to have a caption. WP:CAP When you have a paragraph describing a grand building with monumental steps topped by giant columns, and right next to it is an image of a grand building with monumental steps topped by giant columns, it seems unnecessary to have a caption. What would it say? "Widener Library"? That's helpful.

Then we have a paragraph describing that there are stacks at east, south, and west, and a giant reading room at north. Next to it is a floorplan showing stacks at east, south, and west, and a giant reading room at north. What caption would be needed? "Floor plan showing stacks at east, south, and west, and reading room at north"? What would be the point of that?

So seriously, can you point to any problems? EEng (talk) 22:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:20:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:47:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

But I feel an untold sorrow about this user. Hafspajen (talk) 00:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T00:20:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":20,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:20:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-24T11:38:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Um, thanks... I guess. EEng (talk) 11:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T11:38:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":21,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-24T11:38:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

... more untold sorrow available here

Oh dear, you've used the s-word twice now in one post.

"I'm a trophy on your arm, You wear me like a charm, Yes you do." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:47:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Goddam you. EEng (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:49:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:51:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

"I can't stand the pressure much longer, Somebody say a prayer" Martinevans123 (talk) 22:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:51:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Are you going to help or not? EEng (talk) 22:53, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:53:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:56:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

"The chains are locked and tied across the door." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC) [6][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T22:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:56:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T22:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Are you going to help or not? More to the point, can you tell me what about the images or quotes doesn't meet GACR? `EEng (talk) 23:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:06:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T22:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:15:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

I refuse to help, naturally. I'd be tempted to give the images captions, even if redundant. But what's Ritchie's beef with the quotes, exactly? You seem to be mightily at risk of getting your precious article to GA status... but at what cost? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:15:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well, what do you expect me to do? I gamely took on almost all suggestions, explained why others weren't appropriate, and got no substantive response except, suddenly, "time's up". So, yeah ... what's his beef with the quotes? Can you tell? Anyway, it doesn't matter. Will you review if I renominate, so we can be done with this? EEng (talk) 23:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:21:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:21:00.000Z-Sex_for_profit","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:27:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

You need someone who's actually done a GA review, or at least been through a few, and someone who, quite frankly, doesn't know your deep failings. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:27:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

... and much worse, of course, is the fact that the article is littered with shy colons. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":17,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The only qualification for a reviewer is that you've not contributed significantly to the article and are not the nominator. The instructions are here. The criteria (WP:GACR) are simple. Please take a look. EEng (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC) Just to please you I've added the two captions, stupid as they are.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:46:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:46:00.000Z-Sex_for_profit","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:49:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try and look tomorrow... Martinevans123 (talk) 23:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:49:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you, kind sir. If you tell me you'll take the plunge, I'll renominate. EEng (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-23T23:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:23:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-01-24T21:52:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Marty and EEng, Drmies needs help to explain humor. Hafspajen (talk) 00:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-24T00:23:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No pressure, but you will be continuing your unofficial review, won't you? EEng (talk) 21:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T21:52:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-24T21:52:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-23T23:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T22:00:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-24T21:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Give Me an Inch... yes, it'll get done this year, don't you worry. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T22:00:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-24T21:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Howdy. My past experiences with the UK constituent countries (note the link) intro discussions, were unpleasant. I just figured I'd help you avoid any possible headaches ;) GoodDay (talk) 00:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T00:22:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoodDay-2015-01-24T00:22:00.000Z-Wales","replies":[]}}-->

FWIW, you'll note that the same unecessary linkage is made at England & Scotland articles. I won't speculate on who made those linkages & why, however. GoodDay (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:10:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:10:00.000Z-Wales","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:21:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

It seems it started here Martinevans123 (talk) 18:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:21:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

That linkage was correct, IMHO :) I'm opposed to linking to country. -- GoodDay (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:27:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:35:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

But Scotland is much older, as a country, it seems: [7]. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:35:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I no longer push for linking to constituent country in those article leads, with good reason ;) But, I do support your unlinking proposal. GoodDay (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:41:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:41:00.000Z-Wales","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Can't wait. "Dod adref i dân go iawn - brynu bwthyn yng Nghymru!" Martinevans123 (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T18:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2015-01-24T18:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Poor Eurydice, she nearly made it this time. :) NebY (talk) 15:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-25T15:28:00.000Z","author":"NebY","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NebY-2015-01-25T15:28:00.000Z-Wales","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-25T16:19:00.000Z-NebY-2015-01-25T15:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

"... 'ere mate, I 'ad one of them three-headed pit bulls in the back of me cab last nite! His owner said he was guarding some Greek mafia or summat. Strike a lite! It's scarier than the Norff Circular at rush 'our!" --- "Sharron's Cabs", Ballam (talk) 16:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-25T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-25T16:19:00.000Z-NebY-2015-01-25T15:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[8] EEng (talk) 11:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T11:34:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-24T11:34:00.000Z-I_had_a_date_with_a_library_last_night_and_boy,_was_it_ever_stacked!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T11:40:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-24T11:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Stacked!? (p.s. I'm not here. I'm an official sock). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T11:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T11:40:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-24T11:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

To answer your query - yes, unreferenced information about BLPs could and should be removed from anywhere on Wikipedia. WP:BLP, WP:V etc. See also current discussion at BLPN. GiantSnowman 12:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T12:59:00.000Z","author":"GiantSnowman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GiantSnowman-2015-01-24T12:59:00.000Z-Kevin_De_Bruyne","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:05:00.000Z-GiantSnowman-2015-01-24T12:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Giant"}}-->

It's not hard to find sources? Is his participation really in doubt? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T13:05:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:05:00.000Z-GiantSnowman-2015-01-24T12:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks like I failed to find a source for Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2012–13 in the two minutes between your "cleaning" there. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Easier to leave it all to you, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-24T13:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-24T13:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martinevans123. I have paraphrased the content, as it was almost identical to the source (only two words were different). -- Diannaa (talk) 02:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-28T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Diannaa-2015-01-28T02:59:00.000Z-Auschwitz","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-28T12:29:00.000Z-Diannaa-2015-01-28T02:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Diannaa. As ever, thank you for your care and patience. As you know, I often have diffiulty in seeing copyvio in what appear to me as statements of plain fact. I'm left wondering now, if we do limit ourselves to just the two sentences at that article, if that is the most useful or appropriate second sentence. BBC coverage of the memorial has been quite extensive this year. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-28T12:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-28T12:29:00.000Z-Diannaa-2015-01-28T02:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-28T12:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, Diannaa, for adding the extra detail, which produces just the right balance in my view. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-28T12:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Diannaa-2015-01-31T23:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

It struck me as a particularly important anniversary, so I acted on your suggestion. Thanks for the positive feedback. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Diannaa-2015-01-31T23:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[9] EEng (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC) Ctrl-P PRINT![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T00:02:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-29T00:02:00.000Z-Ouch!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T09:00:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T00:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hahaha. In case you missed it :Pavlov's Cats. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:00, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T09:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T09:00:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T00:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin. I have deleted the photo from this article. Good try, but the wrong St Thomas' Church. The church in the article was demolished in 1976, it was near the centre of the city, and did not have a steeple. The aerial view shows that its site is now occupied by housing and called St Thomas' Court. The photo was of an extant church in the outskirts of the city with a steeple. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T09:50:00.000Z","author":"Peter I. Vardy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peter_I._Vardy-2015-01-29T09:50:00.000Z-St_Thomas'_Church,_Coventry","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T10:01:00.000Z-Peter_I._Vardy-2015-01-29T09:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks Peter and apologies for the nuisance. I should read articles more carefully! Do they hold postcard fairs in Coventry, I wonder...? 1976 not that long ago. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T10:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T10:01:00.000Z-Peter_I._Vardy-2015-01-29T09:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Stori hir, bron diddiwedd, o natur ddifyr ac o bosib yn anwir yw stori asgwrn pen llo. Mae'n debyg i'r ymadroddion Saesneg shaggy dog story a cock and bull story. Hafspajen (talk) 17:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T17:09:00.000Z-P","replies":["c-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T17:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Keyboard on the fritz again? EEng (talk) 17:55, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T17:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T18:01:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Far from it. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T18:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T18:01:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Does it look good on your thing? for me it is chrashing into the section below. I mean it looked better before. Hafspajen (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-29T17:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T23:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, I think you must mean Gerty? At 100% it looks fine to me. But just an idea anyway. Please revert if you wish. I have to alternate between 100% and something larger with most articles anyway...) Martinevans123 (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T23:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• One never knows. GERTY?? Hafspajen (talk) 23:37, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T23:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Kevin Spacey as you've never seen him before. An interesting and thought-provoking, low-budget, film which I urge to watch, if you haven't seen it yet. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T23:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-29T23:46:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

.' Since you are an unusually enlightened editor, you are probably right... Hafspajen (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-29T23:54:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T10:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

"*blush*" ... I do like to see myself as a leading light in the wiki Aufklärung. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:54, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T10:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T10:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-29T23:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T16:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T10:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

The leading light in the wiki Striptease? .. ***puzzled*** - that is of course a fast direct translation of the Swedish Aufklärung- [avklädning]. Something might have been lost in translation... Hafspajen (talk) 16:47, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T16:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T10:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T16:58:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T16:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

One needs to keep abreast of fashion when one's "In the Navy"(?) Martinevans123 (talk) 16:58, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T16:58:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T16:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T16:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Why do you care about the shoes only, may I ask, leading expert in Wiki-stripease? Hafspajen (talk) 17:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T16:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:07:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Who's keeping score?! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:07:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

• OK; OK - her you have her with all her cloth on, .... never mind skor. Hafspajen (talk) 17:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T17:11:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

• If I Had 1,000,000 Flavours ice cream"? .... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Well, that's one way of explaining the birth of the universe using - ice cream. Hafspajen (talk) 17:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T17:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T23:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

'It's pollinium! huh. Hafspajen (talk) 22:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

'And polinium! Hafspajen (talk) 23:33, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-07T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T23:33:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T17:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Seven days, seven more days they’ll be comin’
We’ll be waiting at the stadium for them to arrive
Seven more days, all I gotta do is survive

Read more: ... [10]. Next Friday evening!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:52, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z-With_apologies_to_Bob_Dylan-1","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T19:12:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:38:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Hafspajen (talk) 19:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T19:12:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-30T19:12:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes indeed, Gareth. Should be a humdinger. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:38, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T19:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:38:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Tyger, tyger, burning bright,

Down the fairway on the right;

What immortal hand or eye,

Could frame thy fearful long par three? - Blake (talk) 19:20, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-31T11:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T20:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Such talent! I mean you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:00, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T11:00:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-31T11:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-31T11:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Somebody snached Elvy. Hafspajen (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-31T11:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was me, Hpj — my thread, my choice of opening image. I watched two very talented Swedish young ladies (sisters) on the Graham Norton Show last Friday; do you know them? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

And so by way of "compensation"... here's the wonderful Eilert Pilarm. "omg" Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T17:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Somebody also snached the disguised plutonium. Hafspajen (talk) 17:52, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

After hearing Eilert, I admit I stole it and drank it all. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T17:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T17:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T17:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Tasted good ? Hafspajen (talk) 20:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T20:04:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T20:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-01-30T19:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:08:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T20:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Um, I think I'll try and send it back. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-01-31T20:08:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T20:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Since when does Bob Dylan want any kind of apology? EEng (talk) 17:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-01-30T18:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T19:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z","c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

UH,? Dunno. Maybe because of the Bad Hat Day? Hafspajen (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-31T19:08:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-01-31T19:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Because, EEng, I bastardised his Seven Days' lyrics. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z-EEng-2015-01-31T17:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-05T14:29:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

• First Aid Kit - Swedish folk duo is a mystery for me... Gareth Griffith-Jones ... Hafspajen (talk) 14:29, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-05T14:29:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-05T14:29:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2015-02-02T15:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

	The Marmite Award
	llllllllllllllllllllllllloolllllllllllllllllllllllL Hafspajen (talk) 09:21, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T09:21:00.000Z-For_you","replies":[]}}-->

I must get painting again! ... or have word with Nathan: [11] Martinevans123 (talk) 12:19, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z-For_you","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T16:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-02-02T12:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T18:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

• marmite-artist-nathan???HUh? Hafspajen (talk) 16:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T16:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've always wanted to ask... is it true that they no longer use genuine mites in the manufacture of Marmite, and have switched to boll weevils instead? EEng (talk) 12:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T12:28:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-02T12:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T13:18:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-02T12:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

A vile and outrageous calumny! You'll be telling us all about Marmite's grocer's apostrophe next!! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC) ..... but it is now available in your local Chinese Traditional Healthfood Store as "Red Velvet Marmite". Yum.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T13:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T13:18:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-02T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-02T14:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T13:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

You mean vile Calumet? EEng (talk) 14:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T14:01:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-02T14:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T13:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T14:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-02T14:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

"A common material for calumet pipe bowls is red pipestone or catlinite." Goodness me. Pipe bowls again! That might come in handy elsewhere.... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T14:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T14:08:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-02T14:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Gosh... Culture has unexpected ramifications... Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T18:14:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T18:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T18:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T18:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

... love him or hate him. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Golden Girls!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T18:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-02T18:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T18:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

• uuboomHafspajen (talk) 23:17, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-02T18:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Made my evening. Thanks for that, hadn't heard. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:47, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-02T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Sluzzelin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-02T23:47:00.000Z-Metaspacey","replies":["c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T19:57:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-02T23:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for adding a sample! (and **** my computer/system/whatever for not being able to handle it). I wish we could add a sample of the legendary battle with Maynard and Clifford [12] where he's just so refreshingly understated and funny next to these virtuosi of baroque and of grace , particularly in his last four bars. Sorry for spamming you; needed to be shared. ---Sluzzelin talk 19:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-23T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Sluzzelin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T19:57:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-02T23:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T20:41:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T19:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, not heard that for a while! How wonderful that is. From Dinah Jams (1954)? (I have nothing of hers, alas). Love how her phrasing isn't resolved with the backing rhythm until more than a minute in. That video montage is a bit random! But yeah superb playing from both. Thanks! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-23T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T20:41:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T19:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T20:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Random, yep, and that's the album. I like Ferguson here (though he just can't help his stratospheric self) and of course Brownie can never fail, but you're right: Dinah Washington .... sigh ---Sluzzelin talk 20:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-23T20:51:00.000Z","author":"Sluzzelin","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T20:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T21:13:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T20:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, of course it's a three-way contest. To be honest it's a bit like having a bejewelled crown set with three sets of diamonds instead of just one! All a bit overpowering. Personally I'd settle for just Dinah and Terry. This is just bliss. It's like liquid all-star gold. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC) ... smash those vibes, Milt!!! .. and in case you missed it 1 hour 34 of 1967 magic (- assume BBC still owns the copyright, so can't post as external link)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-23T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T21:13:00.000Z-Sluzzelin-2015-02-23T20:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-24T00:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T21:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

(First of all, yes, the annoying randomness in the clip mainly has to do with the fact that Clifford Brown (of whom we only can fantasize what he might have sounded like becond 25) isn't pictured at all in the montage (the array does start out on the right foot, which makes the later randomness even more annoying). Thank you so much! No, I hadn't ever heard let alone viewed the 1967 gig (nor the wonderful Pennies, and you can't help but adore those 70s suits with Joe Pass etc, omg). I only listened to the first piece of the '67 thingy, and already am enchanted. Dizzy is one of the musicians I so regret never having seen live despite opportunities. As a teenager I had the lucky moment to watch Clark Terry in Lucerne. He also scatted, played an ever accelerating dialogue between trumpet (left hand) and flugelhorn (right hand), and he (charmingly) teased a member of the audience in the front row who had stuck her fingers in her ears in those rare occasions his horn screamed out loud, right in her face! (That audience member was my mother). I will listen to the rest after a night's rest. Thank you for your excellent contributions to music articles, Martin, and have a good night's rest too! ---Sluzzelin talk 00:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-24T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Sluzzelin","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Sluzzelin-2015-02-24T00:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-23T21:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'm not being disruptive. Why are you trying to silence dissent? --Stuart Maconie's Dad (talk) 22:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","author":"Stuart Maconie's Dad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie","replies":["c-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:21:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","c-Drmies-2015-02-05T03:31:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T20:46:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nor am I vandalising Wikipedia. Why are you lying? --Stuart Maconie's Dad (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:21:00.000Z","author":"Stuart Maconie's Dad","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:21:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Try not to libel living people. And try not to be abusive in your comments. If you do so again, you'll get blocked. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why not invite your pals User:Brecht89one and User:EnergemDealer2415 over? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

LIAR LIAR ... OH, but I still love you... Goethe in the Roman Campagna (talk) 22:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-04T22:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Goethe in the Roman Campagna"}}-->

• A-ha, Martineva. Busted... Young Werther (talk) 22:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-04T22:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Young Werther"}}-->

• OK. Did I miss anything? Now, when you're done screwing around with this guy and his father, can you please clean up Goldblade? Ta very much. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-05T03:31:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2015-02-05T03:31:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-05T11:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2015-02-05T03:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • You mean this guy, his father, his vandal mate and his indeffed vandal socks? Of course, it could just all be an unfortunate coincidence. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:22, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-05T11:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-05T11:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2015-02-05T03:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The things that one grows tired of—O, be sure

They are only foolish artificial things!

Can a bird ever tire of having wings?

And I, so long as life and sense endure,

(Or brief be they!) shall nevermore inure

My heart to the recurrence of the springs,

Of gray dawns, the gracious evenings,

The infinite wheeling stars. A wonder pure

Must ever well within me to behold

Venus decline; or great Orion, whose belt

Is studded with three nails of burning gold,

Ascend the winter heaven. Who never felt

This wondering joy may yet be good or great:

But envy him not: he is not fortunate.

-- Robinson Jeffers, 1887 - 1962 Hafspajen (talk) 20:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-07T20:46:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T20:46:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie's_Dad-2015-02-04T22:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It is this, Alexander Bolonkin, Hafspajen (talk) 23:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-07T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T23:11:00.000Z-Stuart_Maconie","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T23:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Is it?!! That seems as likely as the connection between Kenneth Patchen and Vladimir Pasechnik. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-07T23:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-07T23:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I have a bad feeling about this. This guy IS a famous scientist. I am a bit taken abck with the changes. Hafspajen (talk) 01:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-08T01:09:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-07T23:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I mean we don't have to agree with his ideas, but still, he is rather notable. Hafspajen (talk) 01:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-08T01:17:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:17:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-08T01:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi M. I know edit summaries are so short that they can lead to misunderstanding so I just wanted to show you the paragraph from the source about the fact that MG is only retiring from stage work.

But Sir Michael said he has no plans to put his film and screen career on hold, he announced, amid glowing reviews for his work on hit polar drama Fortitude.

BTW I am watching Fortitude. It is a bit like Broadchurch in the frozen north. In fact if you ever watch it you might want to put on a sweater cause you can feel the chill right through your TV screen. Brrrr. Apologies for any offense in mt edit summary and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 23:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-09T23:41:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2015-02-09T23:41:00.000Z-The_Great_Gambon","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T09:22:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-02-09T23:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. Many thanks for clarifying. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T09:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T09:22:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-02-09T23:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Best typo of the year so far... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 10:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z-\"suck_accusations\"...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T10:28:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-02-10T11:58:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

...deserves a prize, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T10:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T10:28:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T10:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T10:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mae'n brydgell ac mae'r brochgim stwd

Yn gimblo a gyrian yn y mhello:

Pob cólomrws yn féddabwd,

A'r hoch oma'n chwibruo. Hafspajen (talk) 10:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T10:41:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T10:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T10:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• [13] EEng (talk) 11:58, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T11:58:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-10T11:58:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-02-10T10:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:06:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-10T11:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cymerir bod och ett misstag kan vända sig till och översätta "Jabberwocky" eller andra dumheter dikter till andra språk, jag feddwl. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T12:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:06:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-10T11:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-10T12:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

WP:Responding to threats of harm EEng (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T12:28:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-10T12:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:35:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-10T12:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry, it's only stodgy Danish fare, not real HARM. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T12:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:35:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-10T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-10T12:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, another typo. I meant threats of ham. Did you check out Return to the Library of Babel? EEng (talk) 12:51, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T12:51:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-10T12:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

For real threats of ham, you need to contact another editor. .. it's on "my list"! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z-\"suck_accusations\"...","replies":["c-Drmies-2015-02-10T15:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm pretty dam proud of Template:Ham, thank you very much. Drmies (talk) 15:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Drmies-2015-02-10T15:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T15:45:00.000Z-Drmies-2015-02-10T15:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

C. S. Lewis would be proud of you, I'm sure. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T15:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T15:45:00.000Z-Drmies-2015-02-10T15:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not therapy ... cry... I always thought it was... Hafspajen (talk) 13:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-10T13:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:19:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:32:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, as I said elsewhere some time back... If it is, it's not very effective. EEng (talk) 13:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T13:10:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-10T13:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Ham therapy, anyone? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T13:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:19:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

We can all heartily thank Wikipedia for providing the material for Philomena Cunk's "Moments of Wonder" (not to mention Barry Shitpeas' more enlightened explanations). Martinevans123 (talk) 13:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T13:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:32:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T13:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T14:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

This looks like [14] some kind of therapy, after all... Hafspajen (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T14:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T13:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T14:14:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T14:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks like Black Magic to me. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T14:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T14:14:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T14:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Here's a Sakotis for you! This cake promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Hafspajen (talk) 11:54, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T11:54:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T11:54:00.000Z-Sakotis!!!!!!!!!!!!!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T11:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, how delightful, thanks. I can think of a few editors whose throats I'd like to ram some spikey cake down. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-10T12:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-10T12:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-10T11:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your comment. I dedicate to you this song in Spanish "Morir al lado de mi amor" RIP Demis Roussos. werldwayd (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-11T19:02:00.000Z","author":"Werldwayd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T19:02:00.000Z-Demis_Roussos","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T19:07:00.000Z-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T19:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

What a vaguely threatening title! But thanks, that's very thoughtful of you. Well done with the DM singles. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-11T19:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T19:07:00.000Z-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T19:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T21:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T19:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is my personal most favourite song of his. It is a famous song he sang called "Because" in English. But he released the same with different lyrics "Mourir auprès de mon amour" in French and "Morir al lado de mi amor" in Spanish. Both French and Spanish roughly mean "to die near my love". Actually he was singing his own death. My love can be interpreted as an actual love or love for all those in the world who loved him. I have now also completed further chart positions for albums. I mean I may have missed some, but whatever I could find in Dutch, German, Spanish, French chart listingsetc. It is so difficult to come up with a definitive listing as he had so many releases sometimes intertwining with each other, plus using different titles in different countries. werldwayd (talk) 21:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-11T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Werldwayd","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T21:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T19:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T21:03:00.000Z-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T21:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sure you've done an excellent job. Well done. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-11T21:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-11T21:03:00.000Z-Werldwayd-2015-02-11T21:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Awww, how cute. Martinevans123 (talk)

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I've renominated Widener Library for GA. Since you've shown some recent interest in it, perhaps you'll take this on. Please, though, avoid the fate of so many GA reviews by clearly separating concerns related to the GA criteria from "extracurricular" concerns that can be addressed after the review is over. EEng (talk) 19:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T19:50:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-14T19:50:00.000Z-GA_Wid_Lib","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T19:59:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-14T19:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was hoping to escape such an onerous and perilous task! I will try and have a look in the next day or so. Let's hope I can make it shorter than this one. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T19:59:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-14T19:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-14T20:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T19:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I join you in that hope. EEng (talk) 20:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T20:14:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-14T20:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T19:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T20:22:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-14T20:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can't help noticing that just about all the points raised at Talk:Widener Library/GA1 were satisfactorily addressed. I have read the whole of that review in detail and I regard it as having done about 90% of my work, of anyone's work, in a review. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T20:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T20:22:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-14T20:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

One especially for you, for "agree". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T21:50:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T21:50:00.000Z-Agree","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:03:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T21:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sure this counts as "floral canvassing"! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:03:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T21:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Magnificent, - I stopped recording the vibrations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:17:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

... the only kind you need. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:17, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:17:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gloria with Psalm 150 in Hebrew also worked ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:39:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, that s a great looking article. And that's a great looking picture! :) Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:39:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you! Never too late for a bit more love, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-14T22:54:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-14T22:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-14T22:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks. I thought you had mixed Mrs McCarthy with Mrs McGuire from Grantchester which is no more than a Father Brown rip off. This is episode [15] is one of the best and similar to todays in being heart wrenching with some amusing moments. REVUpminster (talk) 19:05, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-16T19:05:00.000Z","author":"REVUpminster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-REVUpminster-2015-02-16T19:05:00.000Z-Father_Brown","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-16T19:09:00.000Z-REVUpminster-2015-02-16T19:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Unfortunately I can't see Williams in anything without thinking of Jesse's Diets. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-16T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-16T19:09:00.000Z-REVUpminster-2015-02-16T19:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Whether you like it or not, this is the name of the article. i didn't name it with the manufacturer name. You deleted my edit and put back a redirect, which is wrong, because whenever possible, redirects should be avoided. If you dont like that manufacturer name appears, you could have done F-16 Fighting Falcon.--Arado (talk) 19:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-16T19:24:00.000Z","author":"Arado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Arado-2015-02-16T19:24:00.000Z-General_Dynamics_F-16_Fighting_Falcon","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-16T19:25:00.000Z-Arado-2015-02-16T19:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, you could have done that too. It's not always necessary to give the full name of the article. If you think it adds to the clarity of the article it appears in, by all means use it. I don't think it does in this case. My likes or non-likes are irrelevant. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-16T19:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-16T19:25:00.000Z-Arado-2015-02-16T19:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

feeelll ignored. . You are cold

Sorry Hafs! Can't talk now - got a carrot in my face, a mouth full of coal and a dodgy hat. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-18T15:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-18T15:53:00.000Z-I","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-18T15:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Your hat suits you well. Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-18T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-18T15:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Oh, it is probably just deisigiuise for Detective work. Hafspajen (talk) 17:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z-I","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-19T19:45:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T06:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T14:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T15:29:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

):):):):):):):):):O:)Hafspajen (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-19T19:45:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-19T19:45:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Gready lips...Hafspajen (talk) 06:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-20T06:23:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T06:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Probably Last chance to educate yourself on topic. Hafspajen (talk) 14:10, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-20T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T14:10:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-20T14:20:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T14:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

A tragedy! Tears will flow. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC) .... but I strongly doubt it - consensus in very short supply over there, "bro".[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-20T14:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-20T14:20:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T14:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Looks like a mess, isn't it... Hafspajen (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-20T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-20T15:29:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-18T17:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. I have been asked by Candide Thovex's management team to add historical information to his entry. I have included YouTube videos that illustrate historic moments from his career. In most cases they come from his official YouTube channel, his main sponsor (Quiksilver), or from the channels of the events which are referenced. So, in these cases they are about as valid a source as possible and the only sources available on the Internet. If you have any suggestions as to where I may find more valid sources, please let me know. Dave Mailman (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Dave Mailman[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T16:01:00.000Z","author":"Dave Mailman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dave_Mailman-2015-02-21T16:01:00.000Z-Candide_Thovex_Youtube_videos","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:23:00.000Z-Dave_Mailman-2015-02-21T16:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Dave. Thanks for your message. We have only your word for that. You may need to provide evidence that you have not breached the copyright of the material posted at YouTube, even if it has been posted by "his main sponsor". But even if you do, links to YouTube videos are still not liked at Wikipedia and may be removed at any time. Since you claim to be acting on behalf of "Thovex's management team", you will also need to read WP:Conflict of interest, as you may not be impartial. A tag might also need to be added to the article talk page to explain your position to other editors. I'll copy this exchange to you Talk Page, for the benefit of other editors. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:23:00.000Z-Dave_Mailman-2015-02-21T16:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, just a heads-up that you keep breaking the numbering at the Chopin talk page because you're prefixing your replies with ::: instead of #:: -- Gory details at Help:List#List basics. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 16:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Stfg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stfg-2015-02-21T16:36:00.000Z-Replying_in_numbered_lists","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-21T16:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks. Do I "keep breaking" it or have I just broken it twice? It's not intentional - I occasionally get it right. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-21T16:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-21T18:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z","c-Stfg-2015-02-21T18:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

A better approach for you might be to just always do your best to get it wrong (since that seems easiest for you) and then the rest of us will just do the opposite -- sort of an anti-oracle you'd be. EEng (talk) 18:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T18:13:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-21T18:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T18:19:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-21T18:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

How kind. But I think I might feel trapped in my own Square of opposition, sob. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T18:19:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-21T18:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Ah, apologies. It's been broken several times, but I haven't been keeping track of who. Maybe you only "kept" doing it once :) --Stfg (talk) 18:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T18:11:00.000Z","author":"Stfg","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stfg-2015-02-21T18:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T16:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please, don't sob, just follow "beautiful" example. Some would possibly not tolerate a ramp for handicapped, if it distorts the "beauty" of a building. I like this palace, "built" by ? (hidden in an urn, how fitting), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:13:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:13:00.000Z-Replying_in_numbered_lists","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:22:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha. I must admit I was thinking exactly the same thing. Are we here to "make something beautiful" or to build a useful encyclopedia? But then I use lazy tags, so I'm probably far too lazy to appreciate real art. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:22:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Old jokes ;) - Who built the palace? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:29:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:41:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Indeed, all useful good points. Like User:Dr. Blofeld, I've got no particularly strong views. But I'm continually amazed that, while the project as whole seems 100% sold on infoboxes for bio articles in general, and for countless other types of article, it sees it as acceptable to make an exception for classical composers! I just see no logic there at all. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:41:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T19:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Generally I support infoboxes were there is real informational value, but I certainly don't see the point in identiboxes, they're even worse. If we must have an infobox personally I'd prefer it to be detailed with quality facts in them. At one point I remember trying to force an infobox on composer articles and User:Kleinzach and a few others at the classical project went nuts.. I gradually came around to the nice clean look on actors/composers with a simple photograph in Tim and Cassianto's articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:46:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2015-02-21T19:46:00.000Z-Replying_in_numbered_lists","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2015-02-21T19:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nuts?? Ah yes, they probably see them as nothing more than litter. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC) ... "Tim and Cassianto"? ... are they like Gilbert & George? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2015-02-21T19:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2015-02-21T19:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z-1"]}}-->

Yes, they were mad that anybody dare touch a composer article with an infobox. I got a serious talking to for adding one! This is why dear Gerda is brave for taking this on! Kleinzach in my experience generally though is not the easiest going chap in the world..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2015-02-21T19:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(ec 3 times) There's a discussion on composers, did you know? - I saw the wall in Berlin in the 1980s and thought that would stay for my life, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It's a trio, SchroCat also ;) - I made them a template ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-21T19:50:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

How intriguing! I thought cats loved boxes. Martinevans123 (talk)

Also some dogs (pictured if you follow links) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-21T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-21T20:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		This barnstar is awarded to Martinevans123 for blotting the Chopin talk page. Stfg (talk) 17:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Stfg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stfg-2015-02-22T17:51:00.000Z-A_blotstar_for_you","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T17:57:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-22T17:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, a bit busy right now, adjusting my Frank Spencer beret. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T17:57:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-22T17:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T18:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T17:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

No idea what blotting means exactly but what you did, lightening up the atmosphere, is worth hymnal music! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T18:02:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T18:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T17:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T18:56:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T18:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"hymnal music"}}-->

Blotting? I find the whole discussion a bit testing. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T18:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T18:56:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T18:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

If you have a bit of extra time, another test: compare to Talk:The Rite of Spring. I am biased and would be interested how an unbiased person reacts to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T19:18:00.000Z-A_blotstar_for_you","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T19:49:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T19:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, I remember now... running, screaming from the event. Quite a lengthy production. With many of the same players. And speeches. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T19:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T19:49:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T19:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T19:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

What left me speech-less today is the statement by an arb (who wasn't then) that eliminating Andy from these discussions "seemed to help with disruption in the area". - (looooong silence) - I became a member of freedom of speech when I left classical music. - Opera is a different story, I left but joined again this year. All Verdi operas have an infobox, most new operas, most new performers, - a pleasure to watch. Did you know that Andy installed a self portrait when he helped to design {{infobox opera}} (example 4) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T19:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hahaha. Poor Andy! Gerda you have such wisdom. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z-A_blotstar_for_you","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T21:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z","c-Stfg-2015-02-22T20:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

sometimes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-02-22T21:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"Oooh ..." I'm trying to remember in which episode that beret ended up with a chicken on its spike? --Stfg (talk) 20:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Stfg","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stfg-2015-02-22T20:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:11:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-22T20:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

omg "Hahahahahahahahahahaha" "Edith, we are in enough trouble"Martinevans123 (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC) (...Chevalier's 1929 "Louise" like you've never heard it!)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T20:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:11:00.000Z-Stfg-2015-02-22T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-25T16:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Marty you are domed. Hafspajen (talk) 16:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-25T16:20:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-25T16:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-22T20:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-12T21:45:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-25T16:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

... "lurching mechanical noises infrequently keeping a vague beat".

enjoy some silence filled with thanks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-12T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-12T21:45:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-25T16:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Your Special Wikiroom delivery Hafspajen (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-26T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-26T23:06:00.000Z-Your_Special_Wikiroom_delivery","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-26T23:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-26T23:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Jolly good, Herm Hafspajen (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-26T23:56:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-26T23:56:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-26T23:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

We being on the same side here would be nice. Did you notice the candlid lit scenes in Wolf Hall. Wow. Ceoil (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-27T23:54:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-27T23:54:00.000Z-Hans_Holbein_the_Younger","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:00:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-27T23:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, what a good guess. I added a comment about them in the article. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:00:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-27T23:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T00:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, aparently the candlit shots were very expensive, but didnt draw in sufficient viewers, comprared to say the Tudors soap. Frankly I loved Wolf Hall, as good as the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy eps; so beutifuly shot. Ceoil (talk) 00:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T00:14:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T00:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:23:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T00:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

I really don't know why they should have been any more expensive. I thought it was just a directorial decision. I found it quite natural and I'm not sure I even noticed it until they were discussing it with Kirsty Wark after the last episode. Another feature was the portable camera (apparently) But, yes it was beautifully shot. His wife did the music - Rylance was on Desert Island Discs two weeks ago. It seems one of their daughters died on the flight back to UK. How tragic is that. He's a great actor. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:23:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T00:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T03:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

he really is. Re those shots; think Barry Lyndon x about 5! Ceoil (talk) 03:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T03:42:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T03:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T00:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T09:29:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T03:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Anyway, thanks for the edits; appreciated. Ceoil (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T09:29:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T09:29:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T03:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T09:37:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T09:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's a wonderfully strong portrait. (Although that "Note: Strong, 276" is a bit cryptic!?) Did you see Waldemar Januszczak on Holbein for BBC's The Culture Show? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T09:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T09:37:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T09:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T13:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T09:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

I did not, but thankfully the BBC website never disappoints. "In our time" does it for me. I did notice that a great many shots directly referenced his paintings. Joy. I'm guessing Wolf hall might be in the states in a week or two, thnking a DYK might be in order, though I normally shy away from that. You up? Ceoil (talk) 13:53, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T13:53:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T13:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T09:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:46:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T13:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Did you know, did you schknow." We'd have to battle that lunatic "Gage Library" over an outrageously inappropriate pun-laden hook. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:46, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:46:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T13:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T21:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can out pun any man. Even EE. Ceoil (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T21:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-28T21:58:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Compared to me you are a rank punter. EEng (talk) 21:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T21:58:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-28T21:58:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T21:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:25:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T21:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

punk ranter, surely?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:25:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T21:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sounds like puny girls pigtails fighting tlk to me. Ceoil (talk) 22:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T22:06:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:06:00.000Z-Hans_Holbein_the_Younger","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-28T22:15:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah, like you'd know puny tlk if you heard it. EEng (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T22:15:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-28T22:15:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:20:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T22:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now, now, ladies! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:20, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:20:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T22:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Martin, he f&*g started it. Fond as I am of EE, its no wonder wiki, and actually the world, is the going to hell in ragged handbag. I feel this is that grave. Hrmpt. Ceoil (talk) 22:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T22:33:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":17,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-02-28T23:04:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is the BBC World Service. It's going to hell on a sled. EEng (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T23:04:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":18,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-28T23:04:00.000Z-Ceoil-2015-02-28T22:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T23:14:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T23:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, I could have told you that 20 years ago.[16]. But nobody listens to me, mumble. Whatever, you fabulous bastard. Ceoil (talk) 23:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":19,"id":"c-Ceoil-2015-02-28T23:14:00.000Z-EEng-2015-02-28T23:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

When the Lone Ranger rides off into the sunset, someone will inevitably ask Who was that masked man? In the case of Jihadi John, it was some loser from London who thought that it was OK to kill unarmed civilians. It is interesting that UK government officials told the media off the record that Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary was a "key suspect", even though this may be wrong.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:33:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:33:00.000Z-Jihadi_John","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:40:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Phew, off the record, eh? That was lucky. But yes, very curious my dear Ianto. Maybe he was from downtown Indianapolis. Maybe he was from Bloomfield, Belfast. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:40:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

We don't really know much at all, due to the professional editing of the IS videos. Some people have suggested that the voice of Jihadi John is dubbed, and in any case we never see the bragging man actually decapitate the victims, as happens in some videos.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:51:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

You are totally right. Two essential points that no-one ever seems to mention. Jihadi John is a grim cult figure. Emwazi is some sad London lad who hit his head on the metal goalposts. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:51:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it has been suggested that Henry VIII of England developed decapitational tendencies after an incident in January 1536 when he was thrown from his horse and spent some time unconscious.[17] Then again, some people would be capable of doing this anyway.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T14:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Blimey! And I just thought he composed Greensleeves. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC) ... "... once sporty and generous, became cruel, vicious and paranoid, his subjects began talking about him in a new way, and the turnover of his wives speeded up." (... sounds like some editors I know) "Does my 28 stone look big in this?"[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T15:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T14:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is also remarkable that BBC News claimed a scoop on this, as The Washington Post was the first to name Emwazi.[18]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:26, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T15:26:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:30:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

You see, you just can't trust these Yanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:30:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was watching BBC News Channel on Thursday, and they were completely confident in claiming this as a scoop. However, The Washington Post is does not confirm this.[19] The Washington Post story also stops short of giving a 100% confirmation that Jihadi John is Emwazi, despite what some people have claimed.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:52, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T15:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:00:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Ok, ok, Ian. The more you reveal, the more I am thinking this was a W.P. scoop that may have embarrassed both Obama and Cameron, and almost the BBC who had to go along with it. Shucks I'm going have to go and strike out all my robust comments on the JJ Talk page! Or else just wait for the next W.P. revelation.... Martinevans123 (talk) 16:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T16:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:00:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

It has been suggested that the BBC already knew about this from Cageprisoners, also known as CAGE.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T16:07:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:23:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Ah, yes they're the ones who blame MI5 for being the metal goalposts, aren't they? (... whoops! almost linked to The Daily Snail, there). Martinevans123 (talk) 16:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T16:23:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The BBC's news reports gave considerable weight to Cageprisoners spokespersons. Maybe - just maybe - they had already heard about Mohammed Emwazi.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:29:00.000Z-Jihadi_John","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T19:43:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Reading between the lines, it looks as though members of CAGE had told the BBC pretty much the same things that they told the Washington Post, but it was the Washington Post that published first.[20] I'm off, it's been a long day.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T19:43:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T19:43:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T16:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T19:51:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T19:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Thanks Ian. You deserve a rest. Your thorough research is an inspiration. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T19:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T19:51:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-02-28T19:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Here are the Google News UK autocomplete results for "ji" this morning.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:10, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T07:10:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T07:10:00.000Z-Weird","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:47:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T07:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

What a collection. Guess none of them are really G.I. Joes, are they. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T08:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:47:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T07:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

If it's any consolation I get 'Jingle Bells, Jimmy Choo, jigsaw and, of course, Jizz Monster. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T08:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T09:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not quite sure how Google autocomplete works, and whether everyone sees the same things. These are the non-news results, the others were from http://news.google.co.uk/ . Shamefully, I had to look up who Jimmy Bullard was.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:10, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T09:10:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T09:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T08:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T09:45:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T09:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

I advise you to Bend it like Bullard. Let's not forget those other Jimmies we have all loved, including: Ruffin, Jewell, Osmond, Hendrix, Young, Wales and of course The Undertones. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:45, 3 March 2015 (UTC) .... and not forgetting Jimmy the raven who appeared in over 1,000 feature films...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T09:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T09:45:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T09:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T10:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T09:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Experts declare (WP:WEASEL) that you can learn a lot by the autocomplete results that come up when certain letters or words are entered into Google Search and the autocomplete results come up. There have been some NSFW/politically incorrect/potentially libellous examples. There was one person with a BLP whose name would produce a range of these results, but I must have had a bang on the head and forgotten which one it was, as I cannot name it here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T10:40:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T10:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T09:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T10:54:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T10:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Ah yes, NFSW - Google's very useful when you're in a hurry. A bang on the head can be useful in avoiding blame. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T10:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T10:54:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-03T10:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This comes from The Ronnie Johns Half Hour. Fatwas at the ready...--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:16:00.000Z-Even_more_weird","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:25:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Ah, that gentle American humor! I must get one in ready for next Christmas. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T17:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:25:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

To continue my long association with pedantry, this was made for Australian TV. It is a favourite link for Americans, though.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:35:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

"Strewth, possums!" Martinevans123 (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T17:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:35:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-04T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-05T09:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

And some more satire from the current issue of Private Eye.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:12, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T09:12:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-05T09:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T17:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

That was [Esperanto].

I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor, I tell him "Doc, every time I look in the mirror I want to throw up! What's wrong with me?" The doctor says "Well, its not your eyesight." I tell you I get no respect!--MONGO 17:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T17:27:00.000Z","author":"MONGO","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MONGO-2015-02-28T17:27:00.000Z-No_respect!","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z-MONGO-2015-02-28T17:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Me too. I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor, I tell him "Doc, every time I look in the mirror I want to grow up!" Hafspajen (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z-MONGO-2015-02-28T17:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T17:58:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

From the picture you posted above, Hafs, next time you go, I think your doctor needs to look elsewhere. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T17:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T17:58:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T17:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Man: "Doctor, doctor, I feel like a pair of curtains."

Doctor: "Nonsense man! You need a decent classical composer."

I get no respect either! I go to the doc, I say, "doc im having odd dreams. Last night I dreamed I was a wigwam, and then a circus big top" he says "you're just too tense!" No respect from anyone anymore! Irondome (talk) 18:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-02-28T17:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-03-01T18:07:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Somewhat odd story coming from an "Irondome". EEng (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T18:07:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-01T18:07:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:28:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-01T18:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was what finally persuaded me to get one! Irondome (talk) 20:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:28:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-01T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:42:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks so much for that joke, Domey, I could see your intent. It reminded me of Christmas about 10 years ago. A real cracker. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:42:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Me, too, as, Caradoc ap Ynyr (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-02-28T17:51:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-02-28T18:11:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Caradoc ap Ynyr"}}-->

	Hapus Dydd Gŵyl Dewi
	Happy St. David's Day! ...... 13:20, bring it on!! Let's celebrate with a nice bit of rock music! And another treat, c/o Alan Lomax, from the folks down in Canton: [21]

Happy David's day, go reveal moar ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC) ... +1 Like[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T11:42:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-01T11:42:00.000Z-No_respect!","replies":[]}}-->

I tell you I get no respect! I go to the doctor I say "Hey doc! I never have sex so how will I ever manage to have a three some!?" The doc says "use both hands!"...budda bum. I tell you I get no respect!--MONGO 17:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T17:55:00.000Z","author":"MONGO","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MONGO-2015-03-01T17:55:00.000Z-No_respect!","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-MONGO-2015-03-01T17:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

I tell you I get no respect! I look at William Burges, do you see what I see/saw? What kind of consensus is that? Revealing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T20:21:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-MONGO-2015-03-01T17:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Pointy birds. So pointy-pointy

Anoint my head! Anointy-nointy.

I thank you. Irondome (talk) 20:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z-No_respect!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:47:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-03T00:03:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Please take a ticket from reception and await to be called." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC) ...Note: bird watching is down the corridor.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:47:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2015-03-01T21:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

No respect..mutter ..shuffle..some drooling..didn't even indicate which door..Irondome (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-01T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Irondome-2015-03-01T21:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-01T20:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• We are the [outlaws]... Hafspajen (talk) 00:03, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T00:03:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-03T00:03:00.000Z-Irondome-2015-03-01T20:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Remember Dr. Young? And the DYK Hook to End All DYK Hooks --

... that Dr. Young's Ideal Rectal Dilators were abruptly withdrawn after the FDA clamped down on them?

--? Well, I think it's time we got working in that, don't you? I'm still unsure whether we can get past the notability threshold, but I take hope from this [22] (left column, top) and [23]. The major problem is that this [24] is really a primary source -- we'll need something secondary if possible on the FDA action. In fact, these, um, devices were apparently sold through the 50s and maybe the 70s, so we may have to turn the hook around to "not withdrawn despite" etc. Why don't you see if you can come up with anything. EEng (talk) 05:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-02T05:13:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-02T05:13:00.000Z-Paging_Dr._Young","replies":[]}}-->

I ask the doc, "Hey doc....what's the difference between a rectal thermometer and an oral one? Doc says "The taste".....booo! Lousy joke!--MONGO 20:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T20:27:00.000Z","author":"MONGO","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MONGO-2015-03-03T20:27:00.000Z-Paging_Dr._Young","replies":[]}}-->

Doctor, Doctor I keep getting pains in the eye when I drink coffee.

Have you tried taking the spoon out?

Houses at Auvers Hafspajen (talk) 20:12, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T20:12:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-03T20:12:00.000Z-You_are_all_hopeless","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T21:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-03T20:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Phew. Not just me then. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-03T21:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T21:50:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-03T20:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T20:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T21:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was BAD, I AM GOING TO PUNISH YOU. With green naked women. Hafspajen (talk) 20:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T20:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-03T21:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No worries. She has pink In All the Right Places. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T21:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T21:00:00.000Z-You_are_all_hopeless","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T21:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Than it wasn't green enough. Hafspajen (talk) 22:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T22:53:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T22:57:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T22:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Why now she really is green. But more kind of oxidised copper? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC) ... any excuse.... [25] ... go Damo, go Holger!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-04T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-04T22:57:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-04T22:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No messsing with van Gögh. Hafspajen (talk) 01:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T01:01:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T01:01:00.000Z-You_are_all_hopeless","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T08:51:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T01:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

You mean 'that van Gögh?! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T08:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T08:51:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T01:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

NOT Stör kräk vön Gögh. Gäniüs van Gögh. Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T11:31:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T11:31:00.000Z-You_are_all_hopeless","replies":[]}}-->

{{{{{{{{{[[[[[["We look forward keenly to the appearance of their last work"]]]]]]}}}}}}.}}} Hafspajen (talk) 21:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z-You_are_all_hopeless","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T21:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T22:06:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T22:08:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

....What? No sign of any frogs? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T21:54:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

KIss me Marty!!!! .... we are here ...

That's the nicest Green Lady you've shown me yet! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T22:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T22:06:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What do you know, I never noticed that oriental one. neee Hafspajen (talk) 22:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T22:08:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T22:08:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-05T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Anything you want to tell us? EEng (talk) 09:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z-inquiring_minds_want_to_know","replies":["c-Robevans123-2015-03-05T09:22:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T09:49:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","c-Robevans123-2015-03-05T11:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T11:55:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2015-03-06T01:48:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T10:26:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

We are ships that pass in the night - sometimes under the transporter bridge. Robevans123 (talk) 09:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T09:22:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2015-03-05T09:22:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

That name rings a bell, it's true. I do have a slight interest in trains. But I'm known locally as "The Dark Destroyer". (sorry if this is a bitter pill to swallow.) Martinevans123 (talk) 09:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T09:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T09:49:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T10:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T09:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Libraries gave us power, then work came and made us free". JamesDeanEvans123 (talk) 10:07, 5 March 2015 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T10:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T09:49:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"JamesDeanEvans123"}}-->

While I may not be a domestic goddess, my favourite journey is coming home over the Severn Bridge. And although I would rather have played for Wales at Cardiff Arms Park than Rusty Charlie at the Hexagon, Reading (my finest performance), it may happen one day. Exiled in Cambridge (talk) 11:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T11:38:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2015-03-05T11:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Exiled in Cambridge"}}-->

I'm sure Rusty has his charms. Don't sell yourself short. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:55, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-05T11:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-05T11:55:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Damn Welsh. And why are there 1, 2, 3 of them? Softlavender (talk) 01:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T01:48:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2015-03-06T01:48:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Haha, yes. That's cousin Eddie from Ystalyfera, also known as "Evans the Heels". Martinevans123 (talk) 10:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T10:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T10:26:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-05T09:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What on earth? [26] MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T19:07:00.000Z","author":"MadGuy7023","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MadGuy7023-2015-03-06T19:07:00.000Z-Talk:Main_Page","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T19:10:00.000Z-MadGuy7023-2015-03-06T19:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, no idea. Not even looking at Main Page! Sticky mouse? But I saw nothing and got no confirmation pop-up. Please disregard. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC) /... just tried to self-revert, but you beat me to it. Many thanks.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T19:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T19:10:00.000Z-MadGuy7023-2015-03-06T19:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-MadGuy7023-2015-03-06T19:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T19:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries, I did that myself once; Luckily I knew I did that myself and self reverted. MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-06T19:14:00.000Z","author":"MadGuy7023","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MadGuy7023-2015-03-06T19:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-06T19:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've done maybe twice in 6 years. But this time no indications that anything had happened. Thanks for telling me, anyway.

	The Butterfly AwardBarnstar
	Because you are the Butterfly of Wikipedia Hafspajen (talk) 18:00, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-10T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-10T18:00:00.000Z-For_You_2","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-10T18:26:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-10T18:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Really? Only one? Just me? Ahh, how lovely, I'll just get my Irish knitwear .... but that's funny I'd always seen myself more as a Bullet With Butterfly Wings!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:26, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-10T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-10T18:26:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-10T18:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-11T00:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-10T18:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

.... we all make mistakes forgive me.....(featuring a genius from Abertridwr, Caerphilly)

.Goodness gracious. Hafspajen (talk) 00:01, 11 March 2015 (UTC) : [27][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-11T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-11T00:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-10T18:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can't help but be reminded here of Waldorf Salad (Fawlty Towers).--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z-Jeremy_Clarkson","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T12:57:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z","c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T17:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Haha yes, how very appropriate. I'm sure Mr Hamilton would approve. What is the BBC coming too these days? You'd have thought Jezza could have afforded 20 quid! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T12:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T12:57:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T12:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

You cannot walk into a hotel at any time of day and demand a meal of your choice, as the Waldorf Salad episode shows. Hollywood stars would get round this problem by having their own catering trucks on location, but whether the BBC licence fee stretches to this is another matter.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:07, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T13:07:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T12:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:37:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Daytona here we come! .... star in the reasonably priced car. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T13:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:37:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, when JC (not Jesus Christ, the other one) loses his job and goes over to ITV or Sky, he can have it written into his contract that he has his own catering truck. It's an ill wind...--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T13:41:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:53:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Or even arrange his own? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T13:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:53:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T13:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Almost had me there, it appears that Ken Clarkson has nothing to do with JC. Here is the website of the hotel which JC (allegedly) found to have Fawlty Towers-style failings. Neither the Brasserie Menu nor the Restaurant Menu offers the guests a Waldorf salad (100% true).--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T14:04:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T13:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:11:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Looks charming. A little piece of God's Own County that will be forever Fawlty - "What ho, Jezza!" Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T14:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:11:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:22:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

When a hotel guest behaves like this, the traditional response is for the staff to pee in the soup and w@nk in the mayonnaise. Needless to say, the staff at the hotel in question are far too cultured to do this sort of thing.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T14:22:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:22:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:34:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Yikes. Hate to think what happens at Christmastime. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:34:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T14:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T15:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

JC (allegedly) wanted a steak. The Brasserie Menu would have offered this for £21.95 (quite reasonable for a hotel meal IMHO), but it closes at 8:45 PM. JC (allegedly) arrived at 10 PM.[28] C'est la vie, I suppose.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:17, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T15:17:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T15:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T14:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T16:44:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T15:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Great to see where our license fee money isn't going. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T16:44:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T15:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T16:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm surprised that none of the mainstream media has pointed this out, as it is only a few mouse clicks away. My local pub chain offers steak meals any time that it is open, and 10 PM would not be a huge problem (mind you, the frozen chips are a bit crap). It is surprising that the brasserie closes at 8:45 PM.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T16:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

• And here is a steak meal from the pub in question. It was OK but might not have satisfied Jeremy Clarkson, who (allegedly) wanted an "8 oz sirloin with fondant potatoes, pan-fried wild mushrooms, grilled cherry tomatoes and peppercorn sauce."--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T17:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2015-03-14T12:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Great to see you tucking in to your "Jezza Fracas Celebratory Platter".

I noticed your revert. I hope you don't think I created that mess on Frankenstein (disambiguation). In fact it was done by User:173.17.0.226 who has made only one edit as you can see here and here. I had corrected a simple spelling error and after a second thought was in the process of fixing the garbage when you jumped in. :) Jodosma (talk) 21:08, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Jodosma","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jodosma-2015-03-14T21:08:00.000Z-Frankenstein_(disambiguation)","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T23:41:00.000Z-Jodosma-2015-03-14T21:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. Sorry for jumping in. I often do. I could see you were doing batch of corrections to "label". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-14T23:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T23:41:00.000Z-Jodosma-2015-03-14T21:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jodosma-2015-03-15T09:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T23:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. I'm trawling through Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings which is a good source of errors for me. Ciao. Jodosma (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Jodosma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jodosma-2015-03-15T09:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-14T23:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T10:01:00.000Z-Jodosma-2015-03-15T09:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry - you won't run out with me around! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T10:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T10:01:00.000Z-Jodosma-2015-03-15T09:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well I'm glad to see there's one other person on here who has heard of In The Land Of Grey And Pink ... I used to play "Golf Girl" at open mics a long time ago, it just fits my voice and the words are quite silly and surreal, and hence easy to remember. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:31, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T21:31:00.000Z-A_golf_girl_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T21:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

One my favourite albums ever. Just so impeccably English (now this is VERY high praise coming from a Welshman!) I have yet to hear "the 5.1 thingy" for this album, but if it's anything like what's been done with Talking Heads, it's probably a revelation. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC) p.s. can Morgan Pressel sue for that?[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T21:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

ALSO, there's that really distinctive organ sound (hard to believe it's a Hammond, but I guess it must be) that goes thorough all the Canterbury stuff - Hatfield and the North, Robert Wyatt, Soft Machine, etc, etc. - if you know what I mean. Just magic. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T22:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yup, you just take a Hammond and put it through a Marshall amp, maybe putting a wah-wah en route. I think about halfway through "Winter Wine" you can hear the click of a wah-wah pedal being activated. The title track of Things May Come and Things May Go but the title of this article goes on for ever and ever until it seems to take over the entire paragraph has a similar set-up. A lot of the time it's Dave Sinclair just passing through different bands. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:26, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T22:26:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:38:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

I heard this album in my formative years and I thought, "wow, so you can have rock that's not got huge pounding guitar riffs, but has some kind of enchanted woodland feel to it!" (... and then I heard Pink Floyd and realised you can actually have both). But I've always been very partial to that organ sound. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:38, 15 March 2015 (UTC) ... "Instrumentally, David Sinclair's fuzztone Hammond organ sound is a key ingredient of the early Caravan albums and his playing is the dominant instrument on them." apparently ... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T22:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:38:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T22:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T23:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Given that the band comes from round these parts, there something of local heroes I guess. I saved Jim Leverton from AfD (or was it just a rejected AfC?) who's played with them, and I've met a few of Rocky and the Natives, a local band that Geoff Richardson plays in when he's not Caravanning. PS: The 2001 CD reissue sleeve notes say the first date of recording was 14 September 1970. If that's an unreliable source then ik ben een Neelander. Umm.... Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-15T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T23:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-15T22:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-16T21:11:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T23:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think maybe Dave Grinstead and his cannon deserve a mention in the text?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-16T21:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-16T21:11:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-15T23:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-03-16T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-16T21:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

IIRC the CD sleeve notes don't say anything other than his mention in the credits, so what's there is cited almost verbatim. However, my notes for If I Could Do It All Over Again... credit Pye Hastings with "impersonation of a friendly gorilla", so when I get round expanding that, it should definitely go in! Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-16T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-16T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-16T21:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Not too far off GA, this now, I think. Just a reliable source citing the trombone and a few other citations and I think we're there. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:19, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T22:19:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-18T22:19:00.000Z-A_golf_girl_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:26:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-18T22:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

I do hope we can pin down the cannon. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T22:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:26:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-18T22:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T16:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

I always felt a bit uncomfortable with the line "illuminates the breasts of four young girls" in "Winter Wine", and post Yewtree, it just sounds plain perverse. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T16:33:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T16:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:09:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T16:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry, the Goddard Inquiry is now meant to stretch as far back as the era of wandering minstrels and knights in armour cold. (But it might take quite a long time to complete.) Martinevans123 (talk) 17:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:09:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T16:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T17:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

That reminds me of a bad joke, a bloke goes onto a beach with Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter. His mate looks at him and says, "you idiot, I said bring a pair of _s_peedos! Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T17:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:43:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T17:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

What did Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Savile have in common?

They both shafted miners in the 1980s. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T17:43:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2015-03-19T17:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"Britannica fairy-dust" – good one! Sca (talk) 14:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-18T14:54:00.000Z-Cervantes","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T15:02:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-18T14:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Should be using "Enciclopedia Iberica", of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T15:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T15:02:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-18T14:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-18T15:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T15:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Or, I understand pre-1990 copies of this one are going cheap these days. Sca (talk) 15:48, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T15:48:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-18T15:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T15:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:30:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-18T15:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? ... dear old Lenny? ... the great Elmyra, and Sancho Panza?" Martinevans123 (talk) 22:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC) [29][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-18T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:30:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-18T15:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T09:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

And talking of strangling someone, I'm not going to bother at ITN any more, since the Encyclopedia Britannica is apparently just a "lame mirror of Wikipedia" (how and when did that happen??) that can't be used too many times in the same article section. And no-one can explain objectively (let alone write down somewhere) how good an article has to be to be linked from the Main Page. So now we have a lovely Cervantes patchwork quilt. Apparently it's "the very antithesis of a "quality article"". So hardly worth pissing on, even if it were on fire. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T09:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T09:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-18T22:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-19T16:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T09:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

This just in to the ITN newsroom: Miguel de Cervantes is still dead. Sca (talk) 16:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T16:00:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-19T16:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T09:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T16:12:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-19T16:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hahaha. Thanks for the update. I was beginning to worry. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-19T16:12:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-19T16:12:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-19T16:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Wikipedia:Rules for Fools.

And exactly what are you implying, Mr Anon!?? How very dare you! As if I have ever been seen in a multicoloured tricorn hat with bells on!! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:27, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T08:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:27:00.000Z-A_reminder","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-20T19:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Huh. Pepsi (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-20T19:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pepsi"}}-->

I wonder if you would be so kind as to give an expedited examination to Template:Did you know nominations/Dr. Young's Ideal Rectal Dilators, with an eye towards its being ready for April 1? I am, sir, as always, your humble and obedient etc. etc. and so on and so forth. EEng (talk) 03:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T03:30:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-20T03:30:00.000Z-Up_close_and_personal","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T08:02:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-20T03:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

The perfect phrases for such requests have been found by Bach, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T08:02:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T08:02:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-20T03:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Or, was it Mozart? Sca (talk) 13:16, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z-Up_close_and_personal","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T13:20:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:38:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:33:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

What did you miss in: joy in the effort of "awakening"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T13:20:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T13:20:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-20T13:57:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T13:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, I'm partly of Swabian descent. Does that explain it? Sca (talk) 13:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-20T13:57:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T13:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T14:04:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it does. Would now somebody bold see what I tried to awake, and perhaps do it? There should now be no serious objection, just I can't do it myself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T14:04:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T14:04:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-20T14:55:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T14:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ich bin verwirrt. Sca (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-20T14:55:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T14:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T15:08:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T14:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Ich bin ein Pfannkuchen". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:08, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T15:08:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T14:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T15:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Faulpelz seem to be strictly for men, no idea what a lazy woman would be called. He (Siegfried) has not seen a woman before, his mother died when giving birth, and he was raised only by a male dwarf. Nonetheless, he will kiss this woman and then she wakes up for "Everything you can sing I can sing louder" and "Love on the rocks" (see Anna Russell). - Anyway, look at Don Giovanni, back to Mozart, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T15:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-20T17:57:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T16:09:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why Gerda, a Faulpelzin, of course! Sca (talk) 17:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-20T17:57:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Ah, yes. I think the English equivalent term would be "you lazy cow". Martinevans123 (talk) 16:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC) ... but great to see The Jazz Singer getting a mention. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T16:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T16:09:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-20T15:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-30T22:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T16:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Night music awakened --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-30T22:19:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-03-30T22:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T16:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'd certainly never wish to "chain men to machine-readable data", I can assure you. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:38, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T08:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:38:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Dr. Young as if I would ever dignify such mindless twaddle outrageous threats with any response.... D'oh! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:33, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T08:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:33:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-20T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-21T12:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

By "mindless twaddle," did you perhaps mean cruft? Sca (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-21T12:46:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-21T12:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-20T08:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-21T13:21:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-21T12:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's all Greek to me... Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-21T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-21T13:21:00.000Z-Sca-2015-03-21T12:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2015-03-21T14:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-21T13:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

You mean Geek. Sca (talk) 14:18, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-21T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Sca-2015-03-21T14:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-21T13:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you get rid of that creature some day so I can return to your page? File:Anonim.gif

ANI-ymous (talk) 08:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-24T08:24:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T08:24:00.000Z-Incognito","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T08:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"ANI-ymous"}}-->

Wow that looks like quite a party going on there. I'll get my caddy to have a word.... Martinevans123 (talk) 08:36, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T08:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T08:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T09:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T09:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

• And JUST how did you knew I am a one of those? Hafspajen (talk) 08:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-24T08:58:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T08:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It was probably the bicycle clips I spotted under the surplice. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-24T09:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T09:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well, it was only a try to be efficient ... Hafspajen (talk) 09:56, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-24T09:56:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-24T09:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-24T08:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

THat terrible woman in yellow shorts is still there. Anti-Yellow shorts (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z-Incognito","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-26T22:44:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Anti-Yellow shorts"}}-->

Yes, sorry about that, might be a while before she "takes off" .... nice club though, don't you think? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-26T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-26T22:44:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Bridge Club, Mixed Dance Lessons and Live Sky & BT Football - ... this kind your club? The vigorous Ante-Yellow shorts (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z-1","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T18:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T14:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"The vigorous Ante-Yellow shorts"}}-->

Do all wear Yellow Terrible Shorts? The vigorous Penny ante (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-26T23:25:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"The vigorous Penny ante"}}-->

You-betcha!!! ... "Hold a chicken in the air, Stick a deckchair up your nose" !! Just imagine ... Nigel and Tezza in perfect harmony! YAY!! Bring on May 7th!! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-26T23:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-26T23:25:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

THERE is only ONE chicken SONG. The vigorous Pio (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T00:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z-1","replies":[],"displayName":"The vigorous Pio"}}-->

Soooo, she is still here today too. Time for Lars-Åke Wilhelmsson. At least no terrible YELLOW SHORTS inte, det, inte. Anti-Yellow shorts (talk) 18:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T18:28:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Anti-Yellow shorts"}}-->

Much MUCH more stylish than your yellow-shorts -thing. Hafspajen (talk) 14:37, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T14:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-26T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-03-30T16:01:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T14:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

• By Jove, Biggles, that chap's a girl, don't cha know! Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-30T16:01:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-30T16:01:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T14:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[30] EEng (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z-More_uplifting_comments_from_the_peanut_gallery","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I would have said more of a "plain Jane". How grumpy can you get! But I'd have thought any post that begins i am women ought to be treated with more than a little caution. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:15, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-03-27T13:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Um, did you persist to the second bit of the diff? EEng (talk) 13:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:19:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-27T13:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, evidently not.... goodness me EEng, you plumb new depths. You are hereby officially awarded the Golden Arse Trumpet of Scunthorpe. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:39, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-03-27T13:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T20:43:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T20:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T20:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

You surely can't have expected me to resist, can you? EEng (talk) 13:54, 27 March 2015 (UTC) Good news! Template:Did you know nominations/Dr. Young's Ideal Rectal Dilators is going to the main page! No thanks to you...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:54:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-27T13:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:58:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

I feel so relieved. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:58, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:58:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• You can always buy a medium sized or small Tiger ... to cerebrate. Hafspajen (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T20:43:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T20:43:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
• OH- hey they don't wear YELLOW SHORTS. Hafspajen (talk) 20:45, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T20:45:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T20:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

....Fighting talk! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T20:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

NOOO, You sacrilegious pantheist. Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T21:27:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:30:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T22:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not a pantyist!! ...well, not weekdays, anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T21:27:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• MARTY, NO yellow shorts. Not a bit. It's a no-no. Say after me never more yellow shorts. ( panties , well - OK.) Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T21:30:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:30:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T21:35:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

A Yellow Shorts! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T21:35:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• NO no, MARTY, DON'T .... ^cry .. no more yellow. No yellow SHIRT, no yellow SHORT. FORRBIDDEN. Hafspajen (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Second thought - what not weekdays? Hafspajen (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T22:23:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-03-27T21:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Can't I start a naughtily suggestive thread without it being hijacked by you two lunatics? EEng (talk) 22:41, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T22:44:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2015-03-28T19:36:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Very unlikely. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-27T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-03-27T22:44:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Very unlikely. Hafspajen (talk) 19:36, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-28T19:36:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-03-28T19:36:00.000Z-EEng-2015-03-27T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

May I join? See the invisible (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-01T13:57:00.000Z-More_uplifting_comments_from_the_peanut_gallery","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:39:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-01T13:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

But of course, Gerda, you have an agenda to support after all!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:39:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-01T13:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-01T23:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, too many former editors are invisible, like the one who started the bird, and the one who wrote inflammatory letters. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:38, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-01T23:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Internet Hafspajen (talk) 02:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T02:04:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T02:04:00.000Z-Please_comment","replies":[]}}-->

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As if I'd ever be taken in by this "old chestnut", Hafs .... D'oh!! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T11:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T11:02:00.000Z-Please_comment","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T20:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T11:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Oh, Really? What were you doing on my page then? --Hafspajen (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T20:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T11:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. See my last note on the revision. Doesn't belong in the same list of major corporations. It's a small baking shop. You could put it at the beginning of the Culture section, mentioning it in the same way as the MTV episode is mentioned. Where you currently put it is WP:UNDUE. Onel5969 (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:23:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:23:00.000Z-Baking_shop_in_Scottsdale","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:29:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fine. Deleting something wholesale, because it's deemed to be "non-notable", is not quite the same as simply re-locating it because it's WP:UNDUE. Does everything else in that sectiom have a supporting source? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:29:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Deleting something because it's non-notable is perfectly acceptable. And where you were inserting it, it was clearly not notable. In it's current location, you could add a citation, but since their is a wikilink to the article, which clearly shows it was a tv episode, you might not even need a citation. Onel5969 (talk) 13:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:48:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:51:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Your edit summary told me categorically that it was non-notable and unsourced. Might have been easier to just put it in the right place? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:51, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:51:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it would have been easier for you to put it in the right place. I don't think it belongs in the article at all. I think references like that (in this and other articles) make the subject seem less important. By putting trivial stuff in articles, it makes the subject seem desperate to be noticed, which in my opinion, this article does not need. Take it easy. Onel5969 (talk) 13:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T13:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T14:04:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, right. Teaching me a lesson. I can assure you that I would never have heard of Scottsdale if it had not been for dear Gordon Ramsay. Now I wish I hadn't. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T14:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T14:04:00.000Z-Onel5969-2015-04-01T13:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia (7th nomination)... Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T22:25:00.000Z-PLEASE_COMMENT_2","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

What, only the 7th?? I'll sit this one out, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-01T22:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-01T22:37:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-01T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your 'subtle' thanks to me. I like to think I have a long tether, but some days it does get stretched beyond reality. Cheers and regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-02T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Derek R Bullamore","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Derek_R_Bullamore-2015-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-All_the_fun_of_the_fair","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T16:56:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2015-04-02T16:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sure I would have responded in the same, or possible more "colourful", way. Now run along and be a little more careful with your use of capital letters, would you? Thanks, so much. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-02T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T16:56:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2015-04-02T16:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, it is a bit perplexing, isn't it? This little piece provides an explanation. I blame all that inbreeding - very difficult for us lesser mortals to get to grips with.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-02T23:08:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-04-02T23:08:00.000Z-Bloody_'earl_!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T23:11:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-04-02T23:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Speak for yourself, Bonzo! ...woof. But thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:11, 2 April 2015 (UTC) ... those poor toffs, they must feel so sequestered...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-02T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T23:11:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-04-02T23:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-04-02T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T23:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, having to mix it with the hoi polloi... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-02T23:35:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2015-04-02T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-02T23:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Then try [31]. No, wait... I meant [32]. EEng (talk) 00:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T00:37:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-04T00:37:00.000Z-Are_you_hot_and_sticky,_mentally_fagged?","replies":[]}}-->

I misread this: Anal Women's Training Center and Moroccan Restaurant. I thought, "Wha-at???" EEng (talk) 22:05, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T22:05:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-04T22:05:00.000Z-That_dilator_thing_is_really_catching_on...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-04T22:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T22:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

EEng, we all worry about you... alone for so long in that huge library... with only a skull and iron bar for company.... Martinevans123 (talk) 22:13, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-04T22:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T22:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2015-04-04T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-04T22:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

We shouldn't let him read this... Thank you ma'am. Robevans123 (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T22:48:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2015-04-04T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-04T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z-Robevans123-2015-04-04T22:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK, who the hell is Robevans123??? EEng (talk) 23:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z-Robevans123-2015-04-04T22:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T14:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-04-05T15:18:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Robevans is in Norway. Hafspajen (talk) 14:32, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-05T14:32:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T14:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Seems a little harsh. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-05T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-05T15:18:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-04T23:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T18:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-05T15:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Postal cod ... 7517 ? Hafspajen (talk) 18:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-05T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T18:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-05T15:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-04-06T18:12:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T18:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Postal cod??? EEng (talk) 18:12, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T18:12:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-06T18:12:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T18:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Rock Lobster, maybe?

....................Postal code..............not sacred cod and whatnot.Hafspajen (talk) 04:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-07T04:07:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-07T04:07:00.000Z-That_dilator_thing_is_really_catching_on...","replies":["c-Softlavender-2015-04-07T04:12:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-07T04:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Then there's always the Spanish word for "year" for those of us without a tilded n on our keyboards and who can't be arsed to type unicode. Works well when asking someone how old they are in Spanish. Softlavender (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-07T04:12:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2015-04-07T04:12:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-07T04:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

One of ME's easter-eggs above reminded me of an ambition I've had for some time: to bring Hell, Norway to GA, thus qualifying it for DYK. The mind boggles at the orgy of potential hooks e.g. "Temperatures in Hell can reach −25 °C (−13 °F) during winter", "There are just over 1300 people in Hell", "The road to Hell is paved with...", "There are frequent daily tours of Hell", "Miss Universe 1990 was from Hell", that kind of thing. Who wants to help? EEng (talk) 04:36, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-07T04:36:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-07T04:36:00.000Z-In_other_news","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-04-07T12:10:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-07T04:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK; we try. More people can go to hell, I knew one personally, who is dead now. Hope this can be the way. Though, my skills are on the illustrative side. Hafspajen (talk) 12:10, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-07T12:10:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-07T12:10:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-07T04:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

	Happy Easter
	Happy Easter.... long time. Atgyfododd Crist! Atgyfododd yn wir! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-05T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T19:03:00.000Z-Happy_Easter","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-11T22:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T19:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Easter. The grave clothes of winter

are still here, but the sepulchre

is empty. A messenger

from the tomb tells us

how a stone has been rolled

from the mind, and a tree lightens

the darkness with its blossom.

There are travellers upon the road

who have heard music blown

from a bare bough, and a child

tells us how the accident

of last year, a machine stranded

beside the way for lack

of petrol, is crowned with flowers.

"Resurrection" by R. S. Thomas.

Nice. Did you see resurrection on my talk? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-11T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-11T22:40:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-04-05T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-11T22:44:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-11T22:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I did. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-11T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-11T22:44:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-11T22:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am curious about this statement, simply because I haven't heard that phrase before in reference to airliner accidents: "I think there may be a 'control gradient' in the final moments of an aircraft crash."

If you can spare the time, I would greatly appreciate your explaining what that sentence means. Thanks, EditorASC (talk) 01:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T01:19:00.000Z","author":"EditorASC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EditorASC-2015-04-06T01:19:00.000Z-Control_gradient","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T08:51:00.000Z-EditorASC-2015-04-06T01:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's simply the idea that the aircraft is not wholly "under control" until the moment it's "out of control". Rather that the pilot's inputs are still having an effect, but are having less and less of an effect, until there is catastrophic failure (or collision). It's a bit simplistic, I'm afraid. And in the era of fly-by-wire, this may be rather brief and may not be easy to see. If the aircraft is aerodynamically unstable, it may be very brief indeed. That's all. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T08:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T08:51:00.000Z-EditorASC-2015-04-06T01:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-EditorASC-2015-04-06T18:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T08:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks much for the prompt reply. Now that I understand what you meant, my next question (again, if you can spare the time -- if not, then I won't be offended if you do not reply further) is if you are aware of any official accident report, or other documents from the FAA, or equivalent regulatory authorities, that discuss that "control gradient" concept. It would be an important report to add to my library, if I can find it. EditorASC (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T18:09:00.000Z","author":"EditorASC","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EditorASC-2015-04-06T18:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T08:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T19:47:00.000Z-EditorASC-2015-04-06T18:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

P.S. As to an airliner being "aerodynamically unstable," right now I can think of only two: The MD-11 and the B-727 at higher altitudes (dutch roll problem). If you know of others, I would appreciate that kind of info too. Cheers.

Apologies, I've never seen it in any official accident report. I think I got it from the work of Sidney Dekker or his colleagues. Of it might have been Frank Hawkins or someone like that. And of course airliners are pretty aerodynamically stable, aren't they, unlike those much faster planes that typically carry things that go whoosh and bang. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T19:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-06T19:47:00.000Z-EditorASC-2015-04-06T18:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

LOL! Well thanks for your help. I'll give it a go with those names combined with human factors research. I might find some real interesting stuff, enjoying the search in the process, because human factors in the airline industry has been a subject I have been deeply interested in for many years. Cheers. EditorASC (talk) 22:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-06T22:19:00.000Z","author":"EditorASC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EditorASC-2015-04-06T22:19:00.000Z-Control_gradient","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Martinevans123. In the Land of Grey and Pink, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated  to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 17:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-07T17:13:00.000Z","author":"APersonBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-APersonBot-2015-04-07T17:13:00.000Z-In_the_Land_of_Grey_and_Pink_has_been_nominated_for_Did_You_Know","replies":[]}}-->

Here is a [33] challenge for you. Hafspajen (talk) 14:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-11T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-04-11T14:42:00.000Z-Dear_Marty","replies":[]}}-->

Welcome, new editor! EEng (talk) 00:19, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-15T00:19:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-15T00:19:00.000Z-Dear_Marty","replies":["c-EEng-2015-04-15T12:55:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T00:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, that should do the trick. And I'm sure your efforts over gender equality won't go "amiss". Martinevans123 (talk)

You're one of the few whose comment actually make me LOL. EEng (talk) 12:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-15T12:55:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-15T12:55:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T00:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T12:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

That is very gratifying and, of course, all I ever aim for. I wish more editors had a sense of homour like yours (or even a just sense of humour at all.) I guess if one's ego gets so big, there's simply no room for one. I've been enjoying your image gallery lately. Some real gems there. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:38, 15 April 2015 (UTC) p.s. I would certainly never claim to have "diverged from chimps." [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T12:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-04-16T22:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z","c-EEng-2015-04-15T15:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Keep wishing [34]. EEng (talk) 22:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-16T22:59:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-16T22:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T07:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-16T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, I must have missed all those "tell-tale signs of someone trying to use constructions and language that he doesn't really understand." Probably because I didn't understand them. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T07:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T07:13:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-16T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T07:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, someone's missing something. [35]

Aghast! "Not ending a sentence with a preposition is a bit of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put!" Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T07:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2015-04-17T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Said the boy (tired of the same bedtime stories about Australia all the time) to his father: "What did you bring that book, which I do not wish to be read to from about Down Under, up for?" EEng (talk) 22:26, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:26:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-17T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-17T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

... onuppan the bed, maybe?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-17T22:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think of my user page as being for the select few. BTW, it never occurred to me that "they" would actually let this stay, but it has. [36] EEng (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-15T15:42:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-15T15:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-15T13:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T15:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

It never occurred to me that "they" would actually let this stay, but it has. (Still in the Maria Radner context, as Jeannette Zarou) - Not so Beethoven, see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:32:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-15T15:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Träume" in a box?! whatever next! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Dämmergrau - miss Hafspajen who suggested the image and countless others --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T21:56:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T21:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:02:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, a beautiful choice. He opened this thread.Hope he comes back when he's ready. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:02:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T21:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T22:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

my choice of the options under Traum... including your moorish, and don't miss the lead image and the cat, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T22:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:43:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mine probably too Wessex or Heathcliff. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:43:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2015-04-17T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you read the sources here and tell me if I'm off base? WP:Articles for deletion/M. William Phelps EEng (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:30:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-04-17T22:30:00.000Z-Seriously","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:35:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-17T22:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well I'll try, but can't promise. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC) p.s. "naïve" is spelt with a diaresis ... as my old friend User:DireCriticMark will tell you...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-17T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-17T22:35:00.000Z-EEng-2015-04-17T22:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've just figured out who you remind me of, with your quirky and funny sense of humour: Paul Merton, from Have I Got News for You. Please stick (and keep your jokes around too), you're one of my favourite editors. Thank you! 1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (talk) 16:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T16:50:00.000Z","author":"1Potato2Potato3Potato4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T16:50:00.000Z-I_know_who_you_remind_me_of...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:16:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T16:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, lol. And you have one of the most inspiring user names I have ever seen! But thanks so much. I was listening to Paul on the radio only this morning. He's a witty guy. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:16:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I loved how he tried to defuse Hislop and Prescott on HIGNfY yesterday, but I find your humour so similar! All the best, 1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (talk) 17:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T17:19:00.000Z","author":"1Potato2Potato3Potato4","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:48:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

I find Wikipedia is full of Hislops and Prescotts! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:48, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:48:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha! Is Hislop related at all? 1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T17:51:00.000Z","author":"1Potato2Potato3Potato4","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:55:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not in the slightest, as far as I know. But one could easily imagine he is, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-18T17:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-04-18T17:55:00.000Z-1Potato2Potato3Potato4-2015-04-18T17:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Martinevans123, I just thought I would let you know that I've nominated Soldier at a Game of Chess for DYK. Let me know what you think of the hook, if you have the time. Thanks in advance. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 15:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-21T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Coldcreation","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coldcreation-2015-04-21T15:08:00.000Z-Soldier_at_a_Game_of_Chess","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-04-21T15:11:00.000Z-Coldcreation-2015-04-21T15:08:00.000Z"]}}-->