Happy Hogmanay!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Hogmanay. May the year ahead be productive and harmonious. --John (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-31T21:16:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2016-12-31T21:16:00.000Z-Happy_Hogmanay!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-12-31T21:23:00.000Z-John-2016-12-31T21:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Och, ha auld-farrant!! Aal be sure tae be raisin' a wee dram tae ya, the nicht!! Jock Tavish McSporran123 (talk) 21:23, 31 December 2016 (UTC) So glad to see you keeping those quaint old Scottish customs alive! I had one of their discount lamps once, but it was called a Blinkgerät for some reason. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-31T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-12-31T21:23:00.000Z-John-2016-12-31T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-01T01:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-12-31T21:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Jock Tavish McSporran123"}}-->

Best wishes for a Happy New Year, my dear (auld) acquaintance! JezGrove (talk) 01:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T01:35:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-01T01:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-12-31T21:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T20:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-01T01:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Jezza!! I think we got the gist of that and we all just assumed you'd had one too many dry sherries, vicar. Sorry to say that Reg has largely passed me by, I'm afraid, maybe because, for me, she sounds less like a musician and more like a medical procedure. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-04T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T20:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-01T01:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Here's how I looked when I tried to join ZZ Top. Maybe I'll apply again this year. Sca (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2017-01-01T17:44:00.000Z-What_a_coincidence!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T17:57:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-01T17:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

You forgot your lumber hat. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC) sizzlin version of La Grange here!!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T17:57:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-01T17:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy New Year from HM Prison Birmingham. Only jokin'. Seriously, have a good one. Pass on the best wishes to electric dreams EEng too. Kez.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Kieronoldham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:33:00.000Z-H.N.Y.","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T23:46:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oo, you look a bit desperate. And it's only January 1st!! I guess that's what prolonged editing of "Harold and Fred" can do to you. Hope you don't feel too much like you're on the ropes. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC) p.s. "fnaaar, fnaaar" [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T23:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T23:46:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T23:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. I'm getting there with it. On a serious note, I always preferred Hitchcock's work on Rope to The Birds.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-01T23:55:00.000Z","author":"Kieronoldham","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-01T23:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-02T00:04:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hahaha. Tippi Hedren and Janet Leigh never looked lovelier. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-02T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-02T00:04:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-01-01T23:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Four years ago ...

In Your Own Sweet Way
... you were recipient no. 354 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

... and I only had to change the year, because I used your name for the 3-year model ;) - Happy 2017, moar on top of my talk, which also reports below the first WP:Great Dismal Swamp and the first retirement of the year, both hurting, - it can get a lot better, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T07:48:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-03T07:48:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:05:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-03T07:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry, I'm sure the wonderful new POTUS will sort all that out. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:05:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-03T07:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Martinevans123. As a prominent contributor to Thomas Mair (murderer), you may want to be aware that a request for comments has been filed about it. The RFC can be found by the article's name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found on Talk:Thomas Mair (murderer), in case you wish to participate. Thank you for your contributions. -- Linguist If you reply to me here, please add {{ping|Linguist111}} to the start of your message 16:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z","author":"Linguist111","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Linguist111-2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z-RFC\/discussion_of_article_Thomas_Mair_(murderer)","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:00:00.000Z-Linguist111-2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z","c-EEng-2017-01-03T18:01:00.000Z-Linguist111-2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Linguist"}}-->

Thanks. Although a quick look at the stats will show that I'm not really a "prominent contributor" to that article! Two minor points which might have to be raised over there: is Mair regarded as English or Scottish - might have a bearing on which assassin Categories are proposed (that might be a whole separate RfC, of course)? 2. The article still has a "WP:OP" tag at the top - so we might be on dodgey ground basing any Cats on current article content? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:00:00.000Z-Linguist111-2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Linguist111-2017-01-03T17:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought I should notify you anyway since you were involved in the dispute. Hopefully we won't need another RfC on which categories are used; I think the category "British assassins" could in theory take care of that. Linguist If you reply to me here, please add {{ping|Linguist111}} to the start of your message 17:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T17:23:00.000Z","author":"Linguist111","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Linguist111-2017-01-03T17:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T17:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Linguist"}}-->

• Somebody better get rid of those bigquote blockquotes before SMcCandlish has an apoplexy. EEng 18:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T18:01:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2017-01-03T18:01:00.000Z-Linguist111-2017-01-03T16:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T19:26:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-03T18:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

• Perhaps it's because Mair has become quite a celebrity (... in BIG QUOTES)? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:26, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T19:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T19:26:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-03T18:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Have you been rereading Catcher in the Rye again? Sca (talk) 23:17, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2017-01-03T23:17:00.000Z-ITN\/C","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T23:27:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-03T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Whatever can you mean? Apparently it's all a load of old nonsense. You're not admitting to being an illiterate and disrespectful Welsh person or an American, are you?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T23:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T23:27:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-03T23:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hillbillyholiday-2017-01-03T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T23:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ever feel like you're trapped in a Suffolk-hating relationship? --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 23:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-03T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday-2017-01-03T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-03T23:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T09:08:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2017-01-03T23:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, Doc. I get these uncontrollable urges. B. Littled 123 (talk) 09:08, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-04T09:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T09:08:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2017-01-03T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2017-01-04T02:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T09:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

[1] Sca (talk) 02:33, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-04T02:33:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sca-2017-01-04T02:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T09:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T15:40:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-04T02:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, excellent. I shall squirrel that one away for use at the next side-splitting ITN RD discussion.

"See that huge 105-year-old lump of marine blubber"?

Um ....., yes.

"That's your Granny, that is". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-04T15:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T15:40:00.000Z-Sca-2017-01-04T02:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:15:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T15:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

"See that 72-year-old former Ghanaian Attorney General and Minister for Foreign Affairs?"?

Um ....., yes.

"That's your Nana, that is". Professor F. J. Lewis 123 (talk) 15:15, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T15:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:15:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-04T15:40:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Professor F. J. Lewis 123"}}-->

Hi Martin, I see that thinking inside the box is apparently the new thinking outside the box. 'Gweddw crefft heb ei dawn', as they say elsewhere in Swansea... JezGrove (talk) 23:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-04T23:20:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-04T23:20:00.000Z-Is_Swansea_having_a_laugh?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-04T23:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

"There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shipping box in the middle of the Gower Road."

Eh, lad them were t' days! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-04T23:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iridescent-2017-01-08T16:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T16:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, if Swansea is really the new Shoreditch* it follows logically, since Shoreditch's main shopping centre is a large ungainly pile of old shipping containers. (Unbelievably, given that WMUK's and Google's head offices are about 20 seconds walk away, Boxpark is still a red link.) ‑ Iridescent 16:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Iridescent","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iridescent-2017-01-08T16:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
*I assume they mean "shopping area with an emphasis on independent outlets and actively discouraging the chainstores, fast-food outlets and pub chains from getting a foothold", not "grim post-industrial shithole with unemployment and crime rates about five times the national average, where a small handful of wealthy hipsters give the town centre the appearance of prosperity despite most of the residents living in abject poverty".

Ooo, get her. Worra bitch.

"When I grow rich, Say the bells of Shoreditch". Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T16:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T15:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iridescent-2017-01-08T17:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T16:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

I do hope we don't get another "box cutter gate".

You do have a "Shoreditch-themed pub", which I imagine will do even less well than a Swansea-themed pub in Shoreditch. ‑ Iridescent 17:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Iridescent","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Iridescent-2017-01-08T17:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T16:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T17:07:00.000Z-Iridescent-2017-01-08T17:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Urgghh. How awful. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-08T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-08T17:07:00.000Z-Iridescent-2017-01-08T17:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your message on the administrators noticeboard. I would have preferred that JohnCD were in fact alive. I have been offline preparing a presentation on the Battle of the Somme. Since it is to be made soon, I will be offline again for a few days. In any event, the thread was closed while I was offline. I thought I would respond to your question about the e-mail by saying that I in fact did send an e-mail to his online e-mail address at the invitation of his son. I noted that I would do so in passing in response to the first message, but that could have been lost in the flurry of activity. I did not mention it on the noticeboard or elsewhere so someone who did not see the interaction on my talk page would not have known about it. In retrospect, perhaps I should have mentioned it. I don't know whether there is a protocol or whether it should be done in another type of case without invitation, but it does seem to be quite a good idea. Most people, though I am sometimes lax, check their e-mail quite often, usually daily. An e-mail from another Wikipedian about such a notice on the recipient's user talk page surely would draw a response within a few days - barring something like a severe illness, I suppose. Thanks again. Donner60 (talk) 07:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T07:01:00.000Z","author":"Donner60","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donner60-2017-01-09T07:01:00.000Z-User:JohnCD","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T11:40:00.000Z-Donner60-2017-01-09T07:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, that's just the sort of thing I was thinking. Perhaps everyone ought to be able to nominate an "independant contact" email address when registering (maybe they now can, it's so long ago since I did). Maybe a nominated "duty admin" ought to email the user concerned in this kind of situation and add a notice to the Talk Page, to alert other editors to "reports of deceased, pending comnfirmation", or something. Of course, not everyone has an email link. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T11:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T11:40:00.000Z-Donner60-2017-01-09T07:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Donner60-2017-01-11T04:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T11:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Seems like a good idea to me. Having a regular contact administrator and a procedure could give users assurance they are handling it the right way and avoid controversy. It also seems a more careful way to initiate confirmation. Donner60 (talk) 04:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-11T04:07:00.000Z","author":"Donner60","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Donner60-2017-01-11T04:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T11:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Where’s Agent Flynn when you need him? Enough is ENOUGH! I have had it with these motherfuckin' snakes on this motherfuckin' plane! Everybody strap in! JezGrove (talk) 12:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T12:38:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:38:00.000Z-In_like_Flynn","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T12:45:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, ITN material, I'm sure. But how on earth does a "10ft (3m) scrub python cling on to an aircraft wing", exactly?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T12:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T12:45:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T12:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Very tightly, I expect! JezGrove (talk) 12:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T12:54:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T12:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T13:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Did someone say python? I wonder if they ever get as far as Whicker Island? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T13:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T13:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T12:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A fitting tribute (... although the Aquostic II version, with Geraint Watkins on accordion, is even better of course!) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T19:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T19:56:00.000Z-Thanks,_Paul_Jones","replies":[]}}-->

Stereopticon photograph. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:49, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T20:49:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:49:00.000Z-Calaveras_Big_Trees_State_Park","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:52:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think (but do not yet have a source for this) that one name applies to the tree, the other name to the fire mark (Pluto's Chimney). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T20:52:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:52:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T20:59:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, many thanks for the correction. Not sure how you can get all that in a caption! But hey, an amazing new-fangled-machine ... maybe a good technical item for "In The News"!? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T20:59:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Could be a Stereoscope. I personally own a Holmes Stereoscope, and the slides we have look like that. I was not suggesting a correction was needed. There were a lot of formats and devices at the time. Kind of like Beta and VHS, etc. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T21:12:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T21:13:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well personally, I always go for Weetabix. But just remember... "if a tree falls, is it ever really heard of on Wiki Main Page?? -- "Big Berkeley" State Park (talk) 21:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T21:13:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T21:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

My brother-in-law bet on Beta, something he will never get over (or live down). Then too, the same b-i-l (at an earlier time in a younger iteration) got on the hood of my newly repainted 58 Beetle and was standing on it in his horseshoe cleats scratching it. Something else I will never forget, and he won't get too either. But I digress.

Trying to get major trees onto the main page is not easy. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T21:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:08:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:12:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Of course, it might have stayed up longer if we hadn't carved that damn hole through it... JezGrove (talk) 22:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:08:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:08:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well, here's one, but he's hardly a recent death, statistically speaking. We need a real Main Page "Whip-Crack-Away"! -- "The Might Spruce" (talk) 22:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:12:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:12:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-09T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

If it doesn't make the Main Page we need root and branch reform of the system. JezGrove (talk) 22:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:27:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

"omg" ... you might find yourself on your own there, Jez. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll make a quick getaway if I have to. JezGrove (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:37:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-09T22:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:52:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hee, hee, they blame the storm but it was me! Tim Burr! (talk) 22:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-09T22:52:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:52:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-01-09T22:37:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Tim Burr!"}}-->

FYI, speaking of hanging chads. Pluto's Chimney is about 100 feet away from the Pioneer Cabin Tree. "Tree Wonders of California". The Phrenological Journal and Life Illustrated. 53 (1): 46. July 1871. [The Cabin Tree is] so named from the cabin like chamber and chimney its hollow trunk exhibits... 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:11, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T20:11:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T20:11:00.000Z-Calaveras_Big_Trees_State_Park","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:28:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T20:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Are right, so two separate trees. I was searching earlier today for the origins of the name "Pluto's Chimney", but alas I didn't get very far. Still, looking forward to an article on the Phrenological Journal and Science of Health, incorporated with the Phrenological magazine. I wonder if our resident Harvard sleuth has tracked that one down. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:28:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T20:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2017-01-10T20:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Tracked what down? EEng 20:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T20:49:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2017-01-10T20:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:56:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-10T20:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

What one might need to write an article for the Phrenological Journal and Science of Health, incorporated with the Phrenological magazine. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T20:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:56:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-10T20:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2017-01-10T21:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

I take it you don't mean for (they're out of business) but rather on? EEng 21:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T21:07:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2017-01-10T21:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T22:07:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-10T21:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Dagnabbit! Too late, is seems. How very galling. I guess an article describing them here will have to do. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T22:07:00.000Z-EEng-2017-01-10T21:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-01-10T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T22:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see the tree made the Main Page after all - and replacing Granny the Orca, too. Clearly not enough (human) celebs are popping their clogs in 2017, which could be a welcome relief after the last few weeks! JezGrove (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T23:54:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-01-10T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T22:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Had to correct myself there. MOS:DATERANGE says we should use 19xx-19xx after an RfC here. My mistake. Karst (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T12:39:00.000Z","author":"Karst","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Karst-2017-01-10T12:39:00.000Z-Date_range.","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T13:22:00.000Z-Karst-2017-01-10T12:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, I see. Thanks for telling me. So just at that article? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T13:22:00.000Z-Karst-2017-01-10T12:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 10 January 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Pioneer Cabin Tree, which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:39, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T18:39:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:39:00.000Z-January_2017","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T18:44:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Substantially updated"?? What an outrage! I demand a recount. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC) Thanks anyway![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T18:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T18:44:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T18:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

You have no standing! Just sayin' 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T18:46:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T18:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fortuna_Imperatrix_Mundi-2017-01-10T18:50:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

There won't be no recount. These Pioneer Cabin Trees are famous for their hanging chads... O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 18:50, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T18:50:00.000Z","author":"Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fortuna_Imperatrix_Mundi-2017-01-10T18:50:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T18:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T19:00:00.000Z-Fortuna_Imperatrix_Mundi-2017-01-10T18:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"O Fortuna!"}}-->

Well I think the Greens might have summat to say about that!! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T19:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T19:00:00.000Z-Fortuna_Imperatrix_Mundi-2017-01-10T18:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T19:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T19:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

So much for your prediction about an adverse wind blowing down this article. You have a future in political polling; can't be worse than ... the alternative. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:56, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T19:56:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T19:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T19:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:02:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T19:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, politics beckons, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-10T20:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-10T20:02:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-10T19:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:00, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z-Talkback","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-14T15:45:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z","c-Ceoil-2017-01-22T23:19:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->

Really? Are you sure about that? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:45, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-14T15:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-14T15:45:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T21:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-14T15:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sure. That thing needs refs or removal, - and I can't do it. - Unrelated: I just thanked you for an edit, but meant the next one, as you will have guessed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T21:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-14T15:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T21:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought it might have been for the previous, but whatever. Ah yes, I see. I blame "Billy No Hills". It's all his fault. He might even have some of the real books stashed under his bed. Perhaps we'll have to plead for help from the Irish Mafia. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T21:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T22:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Spare Billy, simply always blame me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T22:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T22:36:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Alas it has no infobox. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T22:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T22:36:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T23:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T22:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

So? I don't care. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T23:12:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-22T23:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T22:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hurray. Now the rest of us can get on with our lives and not be so harassed. Ceoil (talk) 23:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T23:19:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ceoil-2017-01-22T23:19:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2017-01-14T12:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-23T09:21:00.000Z-Ceoil-2017-01-22T23:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

I archived infobox-related stuff (a lot) end of 2015. Waiting (amused, but these days you get cited to ANI if you use dirty words such as "have fun") how long it will take to sink in. I don't care if your article has an infobox, never did. I care when you revert one. I didn't care about this, confessing that it also amused me. Can we now talk about something else, such as art and music? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-23T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-23T09:21:00.000Z-Ceoil-2017-01-22T23:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-23T09:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-23T09:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Apologies for the shameless baiting. I see you are now wise to such antics. Art and music sounds good to me. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-23T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-23T09:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-23T09:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Article really needs an "Accident" section between aircraft and investigation. Mjroots (talk) 17:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-16T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Mjroots","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mjroots-2017-01-16T17:20:00.000Z-Turkish_Airlines_Flight_6491","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Mjroots-2017-01-16T17:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Quite agree. Every little helps? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-16T17:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-16T17:23:00.000Z-Mjroots-2017-01-16T17:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17#Hacking incident that arose from this plane shootdown incident. Mamasanju (talk) 04:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-20T04:29:00.000Z","author":"Mamasanju","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mamasanju-2017-01-20T04:29:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Talk:Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Hacking_incident_that_arose_from","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Mamasanju-2017-01-20T04:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. Good discussion and a good result. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-20T20:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-20T20:49:00.000Z-Mamasanju-2017-01-20T04:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

RIP Maggie Roche (26 October 1951 - 21 January 2017): [2] Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-21T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-21T18:17:00.000Z-Maggie_Roche","replies":[]}}-->

... I thought this one was a gimme. Maybe you're a little older than I had thought and this nugget of pop culture passes you by. Now re-read the far-from-belittling-but-bantertastic convo. Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T18:06:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T18:06:00.000Z-Seriously,_from_the_king_of_pun_and_entendre_and_YouTube....","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T18:19:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T18:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Goodness me! An oblique and unexplained YouTube clip from yesteryear! Way out of my league. You just be mad. But ah, Rushie! The best player to wear that sacred red shirt. You know, wasn't it? Jumpers for goalposts. *wipes away tear* Ron Manager123 (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T18:19:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T18:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T21:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T18:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ron Manager123"}}-->

Bottles for goalposts more like. With marble stoppers. Yay, up yours blue tits. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T21:17:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T21:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T18:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:27:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T21:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!" --"Big Ron" Trump 123 (talk) 21:27, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-22T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-22T21:27:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2017-01-22T21:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello M. I hope that you are well. I had a brain flash (or fart if you prefer) about this. If the field was changed to "Where are they now" wouldn't that cover all the possibilities? :-D Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:55, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T17:55:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T17:55:00.000Z-Another_one_for_the_king_of_pun","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T17:59:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T17:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, yes. That discussion is getting a bit too deep for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:59, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T17:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T17:59:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T17:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T17:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Did you mean something of this order perhaps? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:01, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T18:01:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T17:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T18:24:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

That is where the idea came from Gareth :-). Great link M. It is always fun to see what you will come up with. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 18:24, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T18:24:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T18:24:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:29:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T18:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I was onto that straightaway. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T18:29:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-01-25T18:29:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-01-25T18:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Although unsourced, it is known fact Will Champion provides lead backing vocals for Coldplay. And for Yellow, his backing vocals can be seen during many live performances. Again I'm sorry for no source, but I'm just going by logical conclusion. As for the Mellotron, it can actually be heard throughout the end of Yellow. I'll attempt to find a source however. I'm just trying to let you know the reason for that edit I made, and how it isn't really out of place at all. USMC Lance (talk) 21:08, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z","author":"USMC Lance","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-USMC_Lance-2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z-Yellow_composition","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T21:15:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z","c-USMC_Lance-2017-01-26T08:13:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it does sound like a Mellotron, doesn't it. Wikipedia requires sources not our personal knowledge of what may or may not be "well known facts" or "logical conclusions." If they are indeed well-known facts, finding a source should be easy. Why not open a discussion at Talk:Yellow (Coldplay song), and then others can also search. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-25T21:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-25T21:15:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yeah thank you. I see that clarification needed edit you made on the Fix You page, and that seems much better for not 100% verifiable claims, or claims with no sources. It's especially effective for claims with no sources as for example, with a song, not every part of it will be discussed or detailed in reliable sources. Like with Fix You, you can't really find any reliable song reviewer discuss any less important part of the song, like the synthesizer and string sections that can clearly be heard with a good listen. For obvious reasoning as those would seem to be instruments added just for musical texture. So thanks for that. You're also right about the well-known facts and I'll try to start incorporating sources as much as I can. I'll add that clarification needed edit as well sometimes, for rightful claims I can't source or anything. USMC Lance (talk) 08:13, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-26T08:13:00.000Z","author":"USMC Lance","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-USMC_Lance-2017-01-26T08:13:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-25T21:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-26T10:48:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-26T08:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the note, Lance. You're right, reviewers don't usually comment about small details of arrangement and so they often fall through the net. Unless we have credits from the album cover, it's going to be subjective. I am quite surprised that the band did not give more complete instrument credits. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-26T10:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-26T10:48:00.000Z-USMC_Lance-2017-01-26T08:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This user has earned the 100,000 Edits Award.

It is a Milestone that relatively few editors have achieved, and you deserve a high five. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:34, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T14:34:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T14:34:00.000Z-From_one_user_to_another","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T14:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, thanks. Waco's finest. 50% of those were mistakes, 49% were punctuation marks, and the remaining 1% was split evenly between sarcastic comments, awful jokes and Welsh Christmas cards. [3] Martinevans123 (talk) 15:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T14:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-27T16:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z","c-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T16:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

... all of which made us feel better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:00:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-27T16:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:04:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-27T16:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

...punctuation update. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:04:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-01-27T16:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't know about percentages, but you forgot to mention the gratuitous plays on words. Those are my favorites. Anyway, congratulations! Now, what about that inevitable acceptance speech (and post-speech interview). Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 16:40, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:40:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T16:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T15:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:59:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T16:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gee, Torchy, I hope you'll always be a fan. Sorry, but I'm a bit lost for words. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:59:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T16:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T17:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I so relate. Sometimes I get a little...you know...difficult, too. But better a battery boy than a battery bunny. Ah well, time to Carey on. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 17:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-01-27T17:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

100,000 edits

It's true. This is a meaningless award. I didn't say they were great edits (quality is evanescent and contextual, in the eye of the beholder as it were). We should not get too enamored of edit counts In the grand scheme of Wikipedia, your first edit is as important as yesterday's. And you have consistently contributed to building an encyclopedia -- communicating in a collegial mannner with other editors is worthwhile. Kudos. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:08:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:08:00.000Z-Longevity_and_productivity","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:17:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:08:00.000Z"]}}--> Another award!!? Thanks, Thirteensie. The odometer analogy is quite appropriate - I often feel like I just can't stop. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:17:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:17:00.000Z"]}}--> Ironically, like receiving an award for addiction and OCD. Both of which are integral to being a great editor in the trenches. I would say you should have on your page the CATEGORY: Wikipedians who edit Wikipedia, but they just deleted it. {:>{)> Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:23, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:23:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:28:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:23:00.000Z"]}}--> OCD? Yes, I often wish I had a size 9 stiletto to hand. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:28, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:28:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:28:00.000Z"]}}--> I didn't even know you were a Carmelite; what a happy coincidence. OCD is what I meant. Speaking of coincidences — "Dobry"!! Which is more coincidental than you might imagine. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:36:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:36:00.000Z"]}}--> Ah! The wonderful Bouncing Czech himself. What a treat. The best award I can think of. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-27T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-27T16:42:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2017-01-27T16:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Music for the occasion: today I have three DYK to offer, but didn't get the TFA as I hoped, - well, for myself I translate that as "in peace and joy I let go" and believe it's a good way to go, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-02T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-02-02T20:16:00.000Z-Longevity_and_productivity","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-02T20:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-02-02T20:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I do love Arvo Pärt (there the Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir with Paul Hillier) How heavenly. Simply beautiful. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-02T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-02T20:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-02-02T20:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-02-06T22:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-02T20:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Peace is my motto, here's a different one: a composer setting the Decree on Peace for a speaking voice and four percussionists who drown the speaker, - the party was not pleased ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-06T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-02-06T22:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-02T20:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just to mention that I'm not Welsh or an expert on Wales, simply copying names from categories and adding them to this list to try and fill it out a bit, to make it more on a scale with the lists of English, Scottish and Irish writers. Please add and alter entries as you think best. Thanks for your help, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 22:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-31T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Bmcln1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bmcln1-2017-01-31T22:27:00.000Z-List_of_Welsh_writers","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-01-31T22:34:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-01-31T22:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, Brian. Thanks for your note. My main concern is that some may complain these people were not mainly notable as writers. So we'll have to see how it goes. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-31T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-01-31T22:34:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-01-31T22:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bmcln1-2017-01-31T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-31T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, I put the writing first as it's a list of writers, but each entry is a person, so perhaps the person's attributes should come in order of importance. Let me know what you decide. Bmcln1 (talk) 22:48, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-31T22:48:00.000Z","author":"Bmcln1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bmcln1-2017-01-31T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-01-31T22:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Re your edit: I have no objection. Thanks for asking. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 22:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-01T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Peter Gulutzan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peter_Gulutzan-2017-02-01T22:20:00.000Z-Daily_Mail_RfC","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-01T22:22:00.000Z-Peter_Gulutzan-2017-02-01T22:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, Peter. You make some very good and pertinent points there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-01T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-01T22:22:00.000Z-Peter_Gulutzan-2017-02-01T22:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There must be a DYK hook in here somewhere, but mine are either too obvious or too long-winded – any suggestions? If so, very many thanks! JezGrove (talk) 00:13, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-03T00:13:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-02-03T00:13:00.000Z-Hook_Dr?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-03T10:14:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-03T00:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmmm, tricky. Shame they never toured Australia. [4] Martinevans123 (talk) 10:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-03T10:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-03T10:14:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-03T00:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin. I just saw your recent edit on Sophie, Countess of Wessex. Thanks for correcting my mistakes. Sometimes these errors can be found as I'm not a native speaker of English, so I would like to ask you a favor. Would you please check these four sections on Diana, Princess of Wales: "Problems and separation", "Charity work", "Personal life" and "Legacy" to see if there's any grammatical error between the sentences? It's just a review and you can do it whenever you like. I hope what I have requested is possible. Keivan.f^Talk 13:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-05T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Keivan.f-2017-02-05T13:26:00.000Z-Grammar_checking","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-05T14:15:00.000Z-Keivan.f-2017-02-05T13:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Keivan. I'll try and take a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-05T14:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-05T14:15:00.000Z-Keivan.f-2017-02-05T13:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keivan.f-2017-02-06T05:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-05T14:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks for considering my request. Keivan.f^Talk 05:34, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-06T05:34:00.000Z","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keivan.f-2017-02-06T05:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-05T14:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You might be interested in a discussion at Talk:Sean Spicer#NPOV problems. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 11:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-06T11:33:00.000Z","author":"Absolutelypuremilk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Absolutelypuremilk-2017-02-06T11:33:00.000Z-Sean_Spicer","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-06T12:10:00.000Z-Absolutelypuremilk-2017-02-06T11:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Alas, I think Mr Spicer's alternative view of reality may not be compatible with the requirements of a fact-based internet encyclopedia. And, of course, if something can't be put in a tweet, it's not worth saying. Martinevans123 (talk)

Hey, wouldn't our own dear Lord Sugar make a model POTUS?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:10, 6 February 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-06T12:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-06T12:10:00.000Z-Absolutelypuremilk-2017-02-06T11:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I thought that using an album cover to illustrate a musician, who has no free image available, was a borderline case. But User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz obviously thinks otherwise. At least we had three years use out of it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-06T19:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-06T19:42:00.000Z-B-bot-2017-02-06T19:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin. Do you need consensus to protect articles that are vandalised, or would an editor like myself be authorized to protect an article indefinitely? One article in particular seems to be attracting semi-regular vandalism.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T23:20:00.000Z","author":"Kieronoldham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:20:00.000Z-Protection_consensus","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:28:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Keiron. As far as I know you just need to offer sufficient evidence to an (interested) Admin. They may have other ideas - like an IP range block, a temporary block or a longer semi-protection. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T23:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:28:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Martin.... I just want to do God's will and stop vandalism on the John Wayne Gacy article, bring it to the Promised Land. It is hardly infested with IP and mobile vandalism, but it sees more than its fair share.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T23:35:00.000Z","author":"Kieronoldham","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:38:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha. Well, you know the type of loonies that get drawn to these serial killer articles. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:38:00.000Z-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Should be child's play, if I can find an interested admin. That's the truth of it. If it happens again I'll mention it on the talk page.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Kieronoldham","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kieronoldham-2017-02-07T23:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-07T23:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Any day now, those White House-branded 'Make Mercia Great Again' (oops, I meant 'America') baseball caps will be on sale… (But what's the betting they'll be made in China?) JezGrove (talk) 23:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-09T23:45:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-02-09T23:45:00.000Z-It's_the_economy,_stupid!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-09T23:50:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-09T23:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

In my neck of the woods, "Go buy Ivanka's stuff" is usually used as a lewd Friday night insult after one too many pints of snakebite of [5]. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:50, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-09T23:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-09T23:50:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-09T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T00:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-09T23:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I saw Pill's section on 'Plan for designated area for prostitution' and thought we finally had clarity on the UK's economy post-Brexit, before realising that I'd made the elementary David Davies/Davis error. Ah well, back to the drawing board (where I'll doubtless bump into the real Brexit secretary...) JezGrove (talk) 00:39, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T00:39:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T00:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-09T23:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:29:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T00:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought you'd like to know that the respective legal representatives of Dai Monmouth, Dai Blaenau and Dai Brexit, will all be in touch, in due course. Sue, Grabbit and Rhedeg 123 (talk) 14:29, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T14:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:29:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T00:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sue, Grabbit and Rhedeg 123"}}-->

... and she's got curly teeth.— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  14:46, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T14:51:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:52:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Luckily the law's on my side. JezGrove (talk) 14:51, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T14:51:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T14:51:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T15:00:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T14:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now don't go getting all Welsh on us... Martinevans123 (talk) 15:00, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T15:00:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T14:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T16:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T15:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Will be near there in Dinorwig at the end of May, by a strange coincidence. JezGrove (talk) 16:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T16:21:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-02-10T16:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T15:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T16:31:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T16:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just a wild guess, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T16:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T16:31:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-02-10T16:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, nice band! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:52, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-10T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-02-10T14:52:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-02-10T14:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(this edit placed just to increase my edit count)

On 21 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Heures de Charles d'Angoulême, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the book of hours Heures de Charles d'Angoulême contains a miniature of the beginning of the Ave Maria in historiated letters (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Heures de Charles d'Angoulême. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Heures de Charles d'Angoulême), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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	The daffodil of dexterity
	For helping get Saint David's Day into shape so it can be put on the main page today, I say (in my best pigeon Welsh) diolch y fawr Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:05, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-01T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-03-01T12:05:00.000Z-A_daffodil_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->

PS: You may be interested in the discussion here Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-01T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-03-01T15:09:00.000Z-A_daffodil_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-01T22:45:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-03-01T15:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks, Threesie!! I'll have a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC) p.s. it's yn.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-01T22:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-01T22:45:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-03-01T15:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

So, we're now at GA. I'll push it through to Peer Review shortly and then, comments permitting, on to FA. Your input, particularly at the latter stage, would be very much appreciated. Hoping you are keeping well. KJP1 (talk) 23:04, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-04T23:04:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-03-04T23:04:00.000Z-Monnow_Bridge","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-06T22:55:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-03-04T23:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, KJP. I'll try and take a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-06T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-06T22:55:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-03-04T23:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Asking for a friend. Softlavender (talk) 00:21, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-15T00:21:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-03-15T00:21:00.000Z-Is_Welsh_Rarebit_still_a_thing?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-03-15T00:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Seulement si vous êtes Français et vous habitez à Londres.... or maybe if you follow Psycho in the good old Daily Mail Martinevans123 (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-15T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-03-15T00:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-03-15T23:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-15T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmm. Food photography can turn anything into food-porn and make it look irresistible. But since I my friend lacks some of the necessary ingredients, I think I'll my friend will stick with Lapin Agile. (Which is utter fucking crap by the way – I saw it in San Francisco.) Softlavender (talk) 23:30, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-15T23:30:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-03-15T23:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-15T23:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-03-16T10:48:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-03-15T23:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

This notquitenigellawelshrarebitrecipelooks tasty. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:48, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-16T10:48:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-03-16T10:48:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-03-15T23:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-16T21:01:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-03-16T10:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Strewth, Gareth, me ol' bluey! Yes, looks fair dinkum tasty. Devil-in-a-bush123 (talk) 21:01, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-16T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-16T21:01:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-03-16T10:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I wonder if you could get Ms Wright and the band to use that quotation for promotional purposes? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:13, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-17T14:13:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-03-17T14:13:00.000Z-\"like_Amy,_but_without_the_rehab\"","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-17T19:14:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-03-17T14:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've been searching for Ms Right for years, but I now feel I may have made a terrible faux pas here. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-17T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-17T19:14:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-03-17T14:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Long distance information, give me this everlasting hero. Wilko Jevans123 (talk) 12:34, 19 March 2017 (UTC) "BBC blues", BBC Theatre, 29 03 1972 .... bye, bye Johnny[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-19T12:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-19T12:34:00.000Z-It_then_got_cloudy_and_started_to_rain,_I_honked_my_horn_for_a_passin'_lane","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-03-30T22:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-19T12:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Is he in the Promised Land, or does Chuck have no particular place to go as a result of too much monkey business? You never can tell - but if it comes to the worst, 'Get your kicks on Route Six Six Six' still scans, I suppose… JezGrove (talk) 22:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-30T22:17:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-03-30T22:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-19T12:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-01T09:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-03-30T22:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

... I think we all know that he's up where he belongs. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:40, 1 April 2017 (UTC) ... how to really dance up stairs...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-01T09:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-01T09:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-03-30T22:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry, Martin, I had about three hours' work on hand when you arrived, and I'm afraid I lost your changes. Could you do them again? Many apologies. Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 21:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-30T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Bmcln1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bmcln1-2017-03-30T21:26:00.000Z-List_of_Welsh_writers_again","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-30T21:27:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-03-30T21:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries, very minor. List is looking very good now, thanks to your hard work. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-30T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-30T21:27:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-03-30T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bmcln1-2017-03-31T13:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-30T21:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Glad you like it.Bmcln1 (talk) 13:56, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-31T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Bmcln1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bmcln1-2017-03-31T13:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-30T21:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-03-31T14:02:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-03-31T13:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

I guess List of Welsh women writers should be a sub-set? (although we don't have List of Welsh men writers) Martinevans123 (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-03-31T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-03-31T14:02:00.000Z-Bmcln1-2017-03-31T13:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bmcln1-2017-04-01T20:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-31T14:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

I suppose it should. I was thinking of going through it one day to see if those on it appear in the List of Welsh writers. Bmcln1 (talk) 20:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-01T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Bmcln1","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Bmcln1-2017-04-01T20:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-03-31T14:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin, apologies I just replied to a message I thought was from Ritchie333 but now see you had signed it at the bottom which I had missed when I originally saw it. Thus please see my response to what you had said to me there.

Thanks Thefactcorrecter (talk) 23:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-07T23:55:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-07T23:55:00.000Z-Response_to_your_message","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T08:00:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-07T23:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for telling me. Wikipedia technicalities can take a bit of getting used to. It's encouraging that User:Ritchie333 has taken so much time in trying to address your concerns. But I think he might find it a bit frustrating that he now seems to have unwittingly become the sole spokesman for all the editors who have an interest in the article. I'd be very grateful if you could address the question I've raised at the Talk:Georgina Downs page. That's where any discussion over suitable sources, and most other topics, should be taking place. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:00, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T08:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T08:00:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-07T23:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin,

I have already answered it and sent the links and so hopefully one of them will be a suitable source considering Ritchie previously said that both Ecologist and House of Lords material is acceptable.

In relation to your comments re Ritchie he told me at the bottom of a number of messages to get back to him if still have concerns and at the bottom of his talk page. Further he posted on an administrators board to say he was dealing with it and hence professionally and for consistency it is usually better to deal with one person rather than multiple different people.

Anyway, apart from still responding regarding some of the other award sources that Ritchie was referring to in his message yesterday as I know other awards and affiliations have been sourced in some of the broadsheets and so I shall seek them out and send on in case they can be added in.

However, one absolutely crucial error still remains. I am still wrongly being called an "environmental activist". I have explained why this is not the way to describe my work and campaign at great length. I note that those words are tagged into a separate Wikipedia page and am now wondering whether that is why no one is removing this even though it is not the correct description and if so that is surely just self promotional at Wikipedia's end? I have looked at that separate page and as I have continued to correctly state that is not what I should be described as. The only place I have been called that appears to be in farming publications that use the term in an attempt to demean.

I repeat I do not work for any environmental NGO or group, I am not a paid up member of the Green Party and there is no evidence to support that description of me except in those farming press articles which I am surprised you even consider as a reliable source with the bias such articles present.

The campaign is a voluntary independent campaign and I do not personally and never have taken any wage for. Having read that separate Wikipedia page for the definition of "environmental activist" then it is even more confirmed to me that that cannot be used to describe what I do. If this is not changed to correctly describe me as a campaigner as many many articles have continued to do over the last 16 years as it is factually correct then I will have to find a way to take this higher as it is not acceptable to be wrongly described about what I do in a page about what I do!

Thanks to Martin for including the journalist there though as that is appreciated but it would also be appreciated if the rest of the wording in that description at the beginning can be resolved as soon as possible.

Thanks Thefactcorrecter (talk) 13:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T13:03:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T13:03:00.000Z-In_reply","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T13:20:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T13:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi "Thefactcorrecter" (have you not had any second thoughts at all about that choice of username? as it seems to be a slight disservice to all your fellow Wikipedia editors who think they are doing that exact same thing.) It's useful to keep discussion about article content on the Talk page for that article. But yes, issues that require administrator action are best kept with one administrator. You seem to have valuable inputs to make on both of these topics? You've been described as an "environmental activist" by a reliable source. That's not a problem for me, but it seems to be a huge problem for you. If you feel that strongly, then I guess you'll need to ask the reporter or editor concerned, at www.farminguk.com, to correct it. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:20, 8 April 2017 (UTC) p.s. just on a purely personal level, I don't see the description "environmental activist" as "demeaning". Not sure if that helps you, but there it is.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T13:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T13:20:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T13:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin,

I have repeatedly told you this is not an accurate description of my work and I have found something that further supports my position on this. It was a link I was about to send in relation to a source for some of the other awards and nominations etc. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/agriculture/3458396/Crop-sprays-a-risk-to-health-rules-High-Court.html

Please note it clearly says “Miss Downs, whose home near Chichester, West Sussex, borders crop fields, launched her independent UK Pesticides Campaign in 2001.”

This further supports what I said in the previous message and I thought this fits more Wikipedia’s supposed criteria of a reliable and unbiased source than that of the Farming UK article. That I repeat was not the correct description of what I do and should be replaced with this source and the related wording that I am a campaigner or run an independent campaign.

Also this link here about the 2014 nomination for the Local Hero Observer Ethical Award (which is separate to the 2015 one that is already referred to in the Wikipedia page) also supports my point in the previous message regarding the fact that the independent campaign is voluntary. Scroll down to find the small Guardian para relating to me here https://www.theguardian.com/observer-ethical-awards/2014/apr/22/observer-ethical-awards-vote

I therefore reiterate again please correct the inaccurate description of me and my work on the page as I am not an “environmental activist” with the Wikipedia description linked to. I am a campaigner and journalist simple as that. This is wholly unacceptable to be wrongly described.

On a separate note re the Cosmopolitan award that still required citation here is a link to pics of the award winners (click til you get to me and it has the text of the award I won in it) http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/the-cosmopolitan-fun-fearless-female-awards-with-olay-75223619?#georgina-downs-winner-of-the-heroine-award-picture-id83734675 There are articles too if that is required for citation but I need to go back through to dig out the links.

Thanks Thefactcorrecter (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:30:00.000Z-Further_links_to_support_my_point","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T15:29:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi again Thefactcorrecter. You can repeatedly tell me and reiterate all you like. But unfortunately, for the purposes of Wikipedia, your comments here are not seen as a reliable source. That's not my decision. It's just policy here. Thanks for the Cosmopolitan award link. It would be useful if you could add that at the article talk page or directly in the article itself. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T15:29:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin,

Here is a link to an IFAJ article that refers to me and which shows I am a registered journalist under IFAJ and BGAJ see http://ifaj.org/ifaj/eco-award-uk-writer/

Thanks Thefactcorrecter (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:50:00.000Z-IFAJ\/BGAJ_link","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T16:04:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Is there some reason why you can't add this source to the article yourself? I realise that I might have missed some advice that User:Ritchie333 has given you in the course of the very extensive discussions at his Talk Page. But there is no actual policy that prevents editors adding to a articles about themselves. Especially if they are real improvements. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:04, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T16:04:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T14:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T20:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T16:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

My mistake. On second thoughts, as another editor has reminded me, you should not be editing the article at all. I guess that means you will need to rely on the understanding and cooperation of other editors to ensure that the article gives a fair representation of you and your work. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:31, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T20:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T16:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin,

Well the last I knew someone had blocked me for trying to quite rightly correct things yesterday but just seen that I now can actually get in there.

However, I am really not a technical person I am afraid and I don't know how to add the references bits otherwise I would do it myself. You will see that both the link confirming the Cosmopolitan award and the link confirming I am a journalist under the IFAJ and BGAJ accredited journalists bodies are correct and can be added in as the citations. If you don't want to do it then I can see if Ritchie might be able to add them in next week as I think he has stopped working for the weekend.

I note that James has now amended the wording at the beginning although not replaced the reference 2 to the relevant source Telegraph article I included in an earlier message here and so I shall message him direct (as I have seen that he has messaged me on his talk page).

Thanks Thefactcorrecter (talk) 17:21, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T17:21:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T17:21:00.000Z-Response_to_your_message_2","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:32:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T17:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

It seems my Talk Page (not unlike another editor's I recently saw) is rapidly now turning into something completely different. Hang on, I know... just had an idea... Why not raise your suggestions for improvements at the article talk page?? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:32, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T18:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:32:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T17:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T18:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Martin,

I was replying to your message to me here above! You asked me questions here and so why would I then reply to your questions on a separate page.

Anyway, no need to reply to this then to continue it.

Thefactcorrecter (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T18:45:00.000Z","author":"Thefactcorrecter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T18:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:48:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T18:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am so angry, I refuse to reply. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2017 (UTC) p.s. congratulations on not opening a new thread, just to reply. :)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-08T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-08T18:48:00.000Z-Thefactcorrecter-2017-04-08T18:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. We hope (talk) 13:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-13T13:17:00.000Z","author":"We hope","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-We_hope-2017-04-13T13:17:00.000Z-Your_name_mentioned_at_ANI","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-13T13:21:00.000Z-We_hope-2017-04-13T13:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. I'm not really sure I'm "involved" just for stumbling across that block and asking a few questions. I think User:Cassianto sometimes finds it hard to keep his comments to himself. Even when he's "retired." But I'm just amazed at how that all started. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-13T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-13T13:21:00.000Z-We_hope-2017-04-13T13:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

With Bashar al-Assad denying that Syrian children were killed in the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack and Trump failing to deny mass child killings in the US 'fake news' is certainly on the increase. Silly me - I nearly thought Welsh dragons were an April Fools' Day joke! Next thing I know, you'll be celebrating Wales leaving the EU (Wrexit?) by becoming the USA's 51st state – well, at least you already have a beautiful wall! Still, judging by the current state of affairs we English will soon be joining you as Airstrip One. Let's just hope the preparations go better than for our aircraftless aircraft carriers… (Try searching for 'UK aircraft carrier' in this esteemed encyclopedia and see what it suggests!) JezGrove (talk) 23:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-13T23:26:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-04-13T23:26:00.000Z-Flaming_uffern_-_blame_Google_translate!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-13T23:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-13T23:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, that's right, according to our friend "Basher" it was all staged for dramatic effect. Am thinking of starting and promoting that new West End hit Bashar al-Assad is an utter wanker to WP:FA in time for the next Russian educational initiative. But don't worry, thanks to my friend in the White House, at least Margam Lido is a no fly zone. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-13T23:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-13T23:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-13T23:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Avid Welsh Nat Lord Llangattock in disguise. KJP1 (talk) 11:20, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T11:20:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-04-14T11:20:00.000Z-John_Rolls,_1st_Baron_Llangattock","replies":[]}}-->

Hmm, proper glam fishtail pencil skirt there, dearie. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T11:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T11:26:00.000Z-John_Rolls,_1st_Baron_Llangattock","replies":[]}}-->

I recently came across the splendidly named Azariah Shadrach who shares the accolade of "Bunyan of Wales" with Christmas Evans (no relation), for their writing styles. It prompted me to consider who could be regarded as a later day "Bunion of Wales". Giddy Neil Hamilton (AM) and Roger Moribund Lewis (MA) spring to mind but suggestions are most welcome... Robevans123 (talk) 14:13, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T14:13:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-04-14T14:13:00.000Z-Nominations_required","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T14:59:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-04-14T14:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Call me a crazy old physiognomist, but my theory is that you can always spot a lesbian by her big thrusting chin." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:59, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T14:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T14:59:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-04-14T14:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T14:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

... well, I'll need to get measuring my Welsh feet.... Siôn Corn, maybe? Is John Foot a bit Welsh? How about Terry Boyle? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:53, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T15:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T14:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for doing the formatted refs on the F-35 article the other day. A new editor visiting that page yesterday is apparently making a quibble about the use of the phrase "procurement and upkeep" in order to justify a full sequence of reverts and deletions. I'm thinking he is upset about the excessive cost overruns in the program though the reliable sources are clear on this as accurately describing the program. Could you take look at the deletions made by that editor at some point? ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 14:57, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T14:57:00.000Z","author":"ManKnowsInfinity","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T14:57:00.000Z-Formatted_refs_are_nice","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:04:00.000Z-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T14:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try. Although I must say that aircraft strikes me as properly belonging in a Rex Harrison film. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:04, 14 April 2017 (UTC) p.s. I wonder are you any relation to that well-known sculpture??[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T15:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:04:00.000Z-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T16:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

New F-35 looks more healthy now. The user name you refer to above was from when I noticed that the film for it had no plot summary, for which I added a short version in due recognition of that mathematician. Regarding Moore, there are two Henry Moore's on Lake Michigan, you obviously are familiar with the one and the other one is here [6]. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:46, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T16:46:00.000Z","author":"ManKnowsInfinity","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T16:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T15:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T16:56:00.000Z-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T16:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for that. Alas, the UK's latest foray into nuclear energy is now somewhat in disarray. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:56, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-14T16:56:00.000Z-ManKnowsInfinity-2017-04-14T16:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Softlavender has given you a mitten! Mittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a mitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Or something like that. Softlavender (talk) 11:27, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T11:27:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T11:27:00.000Z-A_mitten_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T11:34:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T11:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Awww, lol. Should come in handy. I always like a good bit of yakety yak. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:34, 17 April 2017 (UTC) "(don't talk back)" But thanks anyway. Sorry if I sound a bit crabby![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T11:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T11:34:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T15:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T11:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

You need a new hobby. Softlavender (talk) 15:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T15:50:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T15:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T11:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T16:47:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T15:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Any suggestions? Maybe mitten cats? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC) ... also known as "boxing cats", as you probably know! .... and poor old Rambling Ted, eh? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T16:47:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T15:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding that other matter -- you're probably right. Plus I didn't realize D used the P word twice, which was a bit much. Let's just all forget (or pretend) that all of this never happened. And Trump did not have relations with Putin. Case closed. Softlavender (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2017 (UTC) Edited to add: The logic and syntax of that third sentence is messed up, but screw it. It had a nice ring to it. Softlavender (talk) 22:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:45:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T22:45:00.000Z-A_mitten_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:51:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T22:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, yeah right. Poor Doc Mice. Maybe there's just a rambling language barrier there, somewhere? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC) Edited to add: ... the third?? I'm sure Donny and Vladdy get along just just fine.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:51:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T22:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

.... And I notice the Yanks still do not understand. Either that or Mercury retrograde is just kicking everybody's ass. Either way, I think I'll chill till it "blows over" .... Softlavender (talk) 23:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z-A_mitten_for_you!","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2017-04-18T00:03:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

• By the way, I believe they are called mitten kittens. Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Softlavender (talk) 23:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Ah, right. Thanks for that. I'll probo be long gone, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 12th of Never, etc. (UTC)

I just broke my promise, innit? Softlavender (talk) 00:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T00:03:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-18T00:03:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-17T23:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T00:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

A broken promise, you say?? ... well, may be. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T00:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ugh. That dame is giving Trump a run for his money in terms of broken promises, delusional proclamations, and insane objectives. Worst time in history for the Labour leadership to be worse than a half-drunk slug. Softlavender (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:33:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z","c-Rivertorch-2017-04-18T21:31:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

"When alarmed, it secretes a noxious substance from glands near the base of the tail and rolls up into a defensive spiral with the head in the middle ..." Martinevans123 (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T18:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T18:33:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A half-drunk slug? Maybe you meant a half-eaten slug? I mean, they're slimy but not liquid. (Either way, one would risk lead poisoning.) Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 21:31, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-04-18T21:31:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-18T18:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T21:50:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-04-18T21:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Virgin East Coast? ...no seats and runs at a snail's pace. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-18T21:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T21:50:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-04-18T21:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rivertorch-2017-04-19T04:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T21:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, I read about that! Back when reading the news only made me mildly queasy. Ah, the halcyon days of 2016... Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 04:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-19T04:28:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-04-19T04:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-18T21:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Greetings. Just to clarify, this was not aimed at you, but at the IP who kept adding the album originally without a link to anything, and then zapped the hidden note. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Mac Dreamstate","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mac_Dreamstate-2017-04-17T20:16:00.000Z-Allan_Holdsworth","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2017-04-17T20:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cheers dude, "'sno biggie". Take a break and have a nice cuppa. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T20:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2017-04-17T20:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello M. I saw your edit here and it reminded me that this was the favorite soundtrack of a good friend of mine in college. It has been decades since I last saw him so it was nice to call back those memories. with your comprehensive knowledge of music I thought I'd share this with you. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:52, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T21:52:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T21:52:00.000Z-Invoking_memories","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:04:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T21:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, MarnetteD! Thanks so much. This remains one of my favourite films ever. And it's not as if I thought that Anderson (just like Man Ken) was ever really that good. For me, he always had a strange kind of "static animated photograph" style, if you know what I mean. But (apart from the wonderful McDowell) that film was wholly and unexpectedly redeemed by the soundtrack - to me the film was just an illustration of the songs. Alan Price the true genius in that film, as in so much of his work. Totally wonderful. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:04:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T21:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

And thanks to you for sharing your thoughts. That film introduced me to Price and I have marveled at his work ever since. I also have to thank you for the delightful and informative links that you add to your posts. I know that eggs aren't allowed in articles but I always enjoy (as well as learn things from) the ones you place on talk pages :-) MarnetteD|Talk 22:12, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:12:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:20:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

A belated Happy Easter, Marnette! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:20:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks!! MarnetteD|Talk 22:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T22:38:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T23:38:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Naturally, I intend to sue our glorious leader, Uncle Jimbo, for permanently re-wiring what's left of my brain. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T23:38:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2017-04-17T22:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T23:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah! the exquisite sound of that RMI 386 "It's no use mumbling, It's no use grumbling, Life just isn't fair". Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 24 April 2017 (UTC) ..... thanks, an' all... but don't go dragging me into that!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-24T19:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-17T23:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2017-04-24T19:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Only time I've seen an RMI is in a shop in Denmark Street, so I'm not as au fait with it compared to the Rhodes or Wurlitzer. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-24T19:50:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-04-24T19:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-24T19:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

And it ain't me who's gonna leave (?) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:56, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-24T19:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T20:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T20:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

That album was surely one of the finest of 1974. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2017 (UTC) ... great studio direction in that clip, despite the curiously impassive German audience... but then, thinking about it, they do look a little embarrassed ...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-24T20:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T20:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

But don't expect me to turn up at AN/I, ya schmuck. I'm still waiting for my kind invitation to discuss "my shitty take on people suffering from strokes". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-24T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T20:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-24T19:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The Barnstar of Good Humor

For making me laugh. Would really appreciate your support for the notion under discussion along with the funny joke. :) RaRaRasputin (talk) 15:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-22T15:29:00.000Z","author":"RaRaRasputin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RaRaRasputin-2017-04-22T15:29:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-22T15:38:00.000Z-RaRaRasputin-2017-04-22T15:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. Personally I think Oswald Rayner deserves a mention in that article, even if just in a footnote, although sound reliable sources would be needed. But I realise that article may be heavily defended by sharp-shooters. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:38, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-22T15:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-22T15:38:00.000Z-RaRaRasputin-2017-04-22T15:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The author is Rudi Rummel. Please don't correct if you don't know.Xx236 (talk) 12:50, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-25T12:50:00.000Z","author":"Xx236","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xx236-2017-04-25T12:50:00.000Z-You_don't_have_to_defend_the_truth","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-25T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-04-25T12:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Unless you can provide a supporting source, the change you made at Joseph Stalin is not a correction. As my edit summary explained, the current source has no author. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:52, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-25T12:52:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-25T12:52:00.000Z-Xx236-2017-04-25T12:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy 100th birthday to the Queen of Jazz. [7]

Thank you, Martin, for remembering and telling us. She is truly the First Lady of Song.[8] Gareth Griffith-Jones, The Welsh Buzzard (Talk) 16:44, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-25T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-04-25T16:44:00.000Z-do-wah,_do-wah,_do-wah,_do-wah,_do-wah,_do-wah,_do-wah","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-25T19:27:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-04-25T16:44:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Gareth Griffith-Jones, The Welsh Buzzard"}}-->

Yes, always a real ray of sunshine.... the cream of jazz singers. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:27, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-25T19:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-25T19:27:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-04-25T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have asked this already in some distant past (though I can't immediately find it now), but I see no improvements yet. Could you please remove all youtube links which are potential copyright violations (all youtube links where you are not certain that image and sound are either public domain or rightlfully owned by the uploader) from yuor user pages, and stop using such links in your posts? They may be amusing or on topic, but they are definitely not allowed on Wikipedia. One can make pop culture or obscure references without providing an explanatory but otherwise problematic link. Fram (talk) 08:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z-Youtube_and_copyright","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T08:56:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z","c-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, of course, no problem. Will do when I have the chance. In response to your earlier request I hid all the links at the top of my Talk page in a collapsible box. Perhaps you don't see that as any improvement. I was under the impression, and still am, that YouTube removes videos if the copyright holder requests it. Perhaps you know differently. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T08:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T08:56:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T08:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Whether Youtube knowingly hosts copyright violations, or removes them once they are made aware of them, is of no importance to us. They certainly make no effort to find them proactively (unlike we at enwiki). We are not allowed to link to pages with copyright violations, full stop. That it is their responsability to remove these violations is not important here (it may be legally important or not, IANAL), our policies are a lot stricter. Hiding such links in a copllapsible box is not really an improvement, they are still there, and your user page starts with uncollapsed youtube links which seem to be copyright violations (e.g. the Eddie Izzard one and the Les McCann one). See WP:LINKVIO if you want more information on what is allowed and what isn't. Fram (talk) 09:05, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T08:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:21:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:45:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

I beg to differ. I think it would be of some importance to us, if YouTube fully policed it's content. And I think most artists see such videos as useful publicity, even as a revenue stream where monetisation is involved. Just out of interest - do you know if Wikipedia has ever faced any legal challenge from a copyright holder for hosting a YouTube video link? I would have thought that, in the grand scheme of the internet, no-one really cares what's hidden away on my Talk Page or in my Talk page posts (well, except you, obviously). But rules are rules, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:21, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:21:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2017-04-27T09:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

YouTube is awash with music videos and clips from TV shows etc that were not uploaded by the copyright holder. Strictly speaking, Wikipedia should not link to any of these per WP:YOUTUBE. It's up to the copyright holder to decide what to do in this situation. Sometimes they ask for the video to be removed, but on other occasions they allow adverts to be placed alongside the video. YouTube has a system called Content ID which checks videos against a database of copyrighted material. It looks like the John Lemon video has been removed. Sorry about that, as they say on YouTube.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2017-04-27T09:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-04-27T09:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

Hi Ian. Yes you are quite right. But I must admit I has assumed that legally responsibility lay with YouTube. I’ve linked videos that, you know, have been uploaded for say five years and have had many thousands, in some cases millions of views. One kind of assumes that any copyright problem would have become apparent by now. I didn’t realise that I was exposing Wikipedia to a huge legal risk by squirrelling away a third party link in a hidden box on my lowly Talk Page (which must be totally ignored by millions of people on a daily basis). But “rules are rules” and Fram obviously likes to see them enforced. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:04, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-04-27T09:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

User:Fram, my Talk Page Wiki Jukebox is now empty. Happy now? Of course the links are all still there, just one click away, in the history. Is someone now supposed to redact each individual addition manually? Is that what is supposed to happen to all content that may be an infringement of copyright, as per our much stricter policies? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:45:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

If someone feels the need to redact the history or remove all such links from your talk page posts all over enwiki, they are free to do so. For me, it is sufficient if from now on, you simply stop adding potentially problematic youtube links to your pages or posts. Thank you for removing these so promptly. Fram (talk) 09:54, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T09:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:22:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:07:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

I know you're secretly very keen, Fram. Personally I can't think of a better use of your time. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:22, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:22:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was wrong there. I think your time would be better spent patrolling article mainspace and removing dubious links to YouTube videos used as sources or external links. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:20, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T12:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

If I called you "an overbearing and meddling policywonk with no send sense of fun", would I get a week's block? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:07, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:07:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T09:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T10:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

I guess it would depend on what a "send of fun" means - is that a pack of party streamers in the post, or something? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:09, 27 April 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:09:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T10:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:15:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T10:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

... the Czech's in the post. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:15, 27 April 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:15:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T10:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Don't worry Martin, I'll let you link to this video (and yes I am cheesed off it's only got a little over 2,000 views as it's miles better than the original, sassen frassen rassen....) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:58, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T09:58:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-27T08:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:11:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T09:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, now I see the admin cabal subtext here.... Martinevans123 (talk) 10:11, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T10:11:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T10:11:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-04-27T09:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I replied to your question on my talk page. Checking again, I see that e.g. Eddie Izzard youtube link is still on your user page, even though I can find no confirmation that Mssilversphinx would have the right to post this clip on Youtube. Please remove this and all similar links from all your user and talk pages. Fram (talk) 07:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T07:59:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-28T07:59:00.000Z-Youtube_and_copyright","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:17:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T07:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for replying. I have removed the link to Eddie. But it seems I need to make an informed value judgement on a case-by-case basis. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T09:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:17:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T07:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fram-2017-04-28T09:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Or play it safe and remove them all, that's your choice. When in doubt, don't link it. Fram (talk) 09:28, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T09:28:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-28T09:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:44:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

I so have very few doubts. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T09:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:44:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

E.g. now on your user page, you haev a long list of youtube links. The first one is from "Coldplay official", so that should be alright (if someone creates a fake "coldplay official" youtube channel, it really no longer is your or our responsability to notice this). But the second one, a Herbie Hancock uploaded by Jazzhole? No evidence that they have the rights as far as I can see. GessyNya and Kevin Coyne? Same problem. I notice that a Steely Dan link no longer works due to a copyright claim by IFPI, so that one as well wa smost likely a link to a copyright violation. Please go through all these links and remove all probleatic ones, or (perhaps better) remove them all, and then only readd the safe ones. Fram (talk) 09:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z-Youtube_and_copyright","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:45:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2017-04-28T11:13:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's very gratifying to see you taking an interest in my YouTube links at last. I'll go through them all and review them one by one. It will be fun. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:45, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T09:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T09:45:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• WP:LINKVIO and WP:YOUTUBE apply to articles, and do not mention usertalk. If there is a policy about usertalk, can someone please link to it? Wikipedia users are prohibited from uploading unlicensed copyrighted material (images or audio or film), but I've never seen a restriction on casually linking to copyrighted material in usertalk conversation, no matter where it is hosted (YouTube, Rhapsody, Spotify, etc.). Softlavender (talk) 11:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T11:13:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-04-28T11:13:00.000Z-Fram-2017-04-28T09:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fram-2017-04-28T11:51:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-28T11:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Congrats, that's the second time in a row that you misinterpret policy and give false information to other editors based on it. Please stop giving advice about policy if it is so often wrong. Fram (talk) 11:51, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T11:51:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fram-2017-04-28T11:51:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-04-28T11:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Martinevans123! I kindly ask you not to spread false information in Wikipedia. By the way. One thing what I appreciate in this great page is the fact that everything is recorded. You claimed that [9] was an "edit contrary to long-standing consensus". Though it actually was itself reverting an edit contrary to long-standing consensus. [10] I don't know about you but six days is not definitely a long standing consensus on a page like this. HunajaOtso (talk) 22:38, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T22:38:00.000Z","author":"HunajaOtso","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:38:00.000Z-False_information","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:43:00.000Z-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi HunajaOtso. I don't believe it is "false information". I think it's debateable. I have posted a request at your own Talk Page. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:43:00.000Z-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

If you are a man who can stand behind his words. Show me clear evidence how the Ukrainian spelling is a long-standing consensus if it was added only a few days ago and the person who added it was just banned. I don't like you spreading false information here about long-standing consensus's. HunajaOtso (talk) 22:48, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T22:48:00.000Z","author":"HunajaOtso","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:54:00.000Z-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, I thought you meant that spelling Sergei Prokofiev name in Ukrainian was "false information". I'll kindly request again that you show me where a long standing consensus to exclude this spelling is recorded. You might also want to inform User:McSqueegee. In that way, any future edit wars can be avoided? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T22:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-27T22:54:00.000Z-HunajaOtso-2017-04-27T22:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 26 April 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jonathan Demme, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:21, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-27T23:21:00.000Z","author":"Paul Erik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paul_Erik-2017-04-27T23:21:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Jonathan_Demme","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your help! Usually I create these in draft first, but I thought this would be a quick stub. There's a bit more there than I originally thought, so this can probably at least make "start" status, I'll significantly add to it this weekend, using the book sources. If you're interested, would you like to check some of the regular 'net sources such as allmusic, etc? Thanks, and happy editing! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 12:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T12:09:00.000Z","author":"78.26","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-78.26-2017-04-28T12:09:00.000Z-Thomas_Koschat","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:17:00.000Z-78.26-2017-04-28T12:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, a great start. I probably won't be adding any YouTube video links. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T12:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:17:00.000Z-78.26-2017-04-28T12:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-78.26-2017-04-28T13:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Heh. I've been known to upload copyrighted material to youtube. Old records. The companies who own the material are generally happy to have me do it, they get free revenue for recordings they have neglected/forgotten for 30, 40, 100 years, and I've done all the work for them. Ironically, the only complaints I have had for my youtube videos is from people who are truly infringing on the copyright owners, claiming they own recordings they have no right to. That said, I'd never link to them from here, Wikipedia policy on media copyrights is too arcane/fluid/confusing, largely in part because of the inevitable international scope of the place, plus U.S. law on pre-1972 sound recordings is indecipherable. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:30, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T13:30:00.000Z","author":"78.26","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-78.26-2017-04-28T13:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T12:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-78.26-2017-04-28T13:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, is the problem that the link to the YouTube clip is being hosted by Wikipedia's servers in Florida? Or is it the actual geographic location of the YouTube sever hosting that particular clip when it plays at YouTube? Or perhaps something else? And of course, unless I try and play that clip in another, I don't know it's "unavailable" there anyway and thus not a copyright violation. I am genuinely surprised, in this day and age of internet dynamics, that anyone really cares too much, especially on Wikipedia Talk pages. Hardly the cutting edge of music and video piracy? The notion that we "shouldn't allow access" for readers and fellow editors to YouTube material is somewhat quaint, isn't it. But rules are rules, and policy is policy, etc. Perhaps one day we'll get "fair use" for timed extracts of videos, like we currently have for music recording excerpts? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-28T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-78.26-2017-04-28T13:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

FWIW -- you may know this but I didn't -- you can specify a media file to play only a section, like this:

[[:File:Dinah (1932).webm|thumb|thumbtime=250|start=250|end=361|upright=1.5|Dinah, 1932]]

Of course you have to download (a non-copyvio) file from YouTube and then upload it here. This plays the video clip from 250 seconds to 361 seconds, specifying a short except that would probably qualify for fair use in the article. Whether this would fly for hosting the file though... I don't know, as a reader can access the full file if she goes "behind the scenes". Probably not, although you could try to make a case. Herostratus (talk) 18:26, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-12T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Herostratus-2017-05-12T18:26:00.000Z-Thomas_Koschat","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:26:00.000Z-Herostratus-2017-05-12T18:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks for the tip, Herostratus. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-14T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:26:00.000Z-Herostratus-2017-05-12T18:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Look Fram - yes, all the links now removed (twice over, in fact). Happy now?
• and Ramblo - yes, now we can really ignore each other (as if you'd ever follow me around), eh? "chortle, chortle" [please remember not to insert any obscure YouTube video link here]
• and Herostratus - yes, looks like I'm definitely "off the reservation" as you so quaintly put it....

Martinevans123! I'm sorry if I insulted you in any way shape or form. I don't know anything about you or about about this particular case or anything -- it was just matter of "X did such-and-such" and me being like "OK then if X is off the reservation do such-and-so rather than this-and-that". You were just serving as anonymous random example for my purposes.

OK? Sorry!

It occurs to me that "off the reservation" might be racist (not sure -- I don't know where it comes from), so I should probably keep my cotton-pickin' hands off of it (we used to say that too). So not a good day for me.

I'm really sorry. I don't know anything about you, but it's been vouchsafed that you're a productive editor, and thank you for your contributions and all you do. Herostratus (talk) 15:25, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-29T15:25:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Herostratus-2017-04-29T15:25:00.000Z-Sorry!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:06:00.000Z-Herostratus-2017-04-29T15:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Old habits die hard, n'est ce pas? Yes, I felt I was being made an example of there. But I think someone may have set you up. In ten years of editing I don't think anyone has ever had the simple good manners to say sorry to me. It's a word that ought be to used quite a bit more. The irony is that no apologies are really needed from you. Re-reading what you wrote, I see that no animosity whatsoever was intended. Your kind words are much appreciated. Thanks so much for being polite. You're a real hero. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:06, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T08:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:06:00.000Z-Herostratus-2017-04-29T15:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Herostratus-2017-05-01T16:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK, everything is all Sir Garnet then. In the manner of friendship and reconciliation, here is a picture of a mongoose for you to look at, on the assumption that you like to look at pictures of mongooses. If not, just ignore the picture. Herostratus (talk) 16:49, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Herostratus-2017-05-01T16:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, Listen, don’t mention the genocide! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right. Lucky we live in a country that tolerates legitimate alternative views – though not according to the leftie radicals at the Financial Times, of course. Er, ... your talk page looks radically different - I hope I haven't missed something?! JezGrove (talk) 22:01, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-29T22:01:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:01:00.000Z-Democracy_around_the_world","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Jez. Sorry I can't reply at the moment. Am enjoying one of those lovely last minute surprise Arctic cruises. Didn't even need a reservation! Unfortunately, the ship's band has jumped overboard. At least it's lovely and quiet (isn't it?) Martinevans123 (talk) 08:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T08:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Luckily, I was able to sneak into the Captain's Cabin and he gave us his personal permission to watch this orchestral gem!!

(Conductor: Jules Buckley; lead vocal: Sharlene Hector; backing vocals: Brendan Reilly and Vula Malinga; trumpet solo: Ruud Breuls)

... salt, angels and music. Look here, perhaps? (No salt.) - Do people think that a choir is a BLP? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-29T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-04-29T22:34:00.000Z-Missing","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-04-29T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gerda, what a beautiful article. Your posts are always so inspiring. I see that EuropaChorAkademie has some great videos (on one of those social media sharing sites), that appear to have been legally uploaded and are fully in the public domain!! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:20, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T08:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-04-29T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-04-30T10:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you! I found the notability tag very strange, - did you see the history? Conducted by Michael Gielen and Plácido Domingo would tell me enough ;) - on top of having listened to the Britten in the Mainz Cathedral, with the bishop opening the concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T10:10:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-04-30T10:10:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		Someone might have dropped one of these on your talk page before, I don't know. (I'm pretty sure I never did....) The name has strange but not unpleasant connotations, at least to me, but I do think, per WP:ENGVAR, that there should be a "Humour" version. Anyway, here it is, for what it's worth, not very pretty and sadly silent, but try to imagine it vibrating along with a distant song of your choice (in the public domain, of course). Have a good weekend. RivertorchFIREWATER 22:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-29T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-04-29T22:41:00.000Z-This_section_has_no_title","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:50:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-04-29T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

And I thought good hummus was in short supply…. JezGrove (talk) 22:50, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-29T22:50:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:50:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-04-29T22:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:26:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

You'll get no wisecraks from me, ya lentil-knitting tree hugger. Sorry, must just dash to the corner Paki shop for some chewy yoghurt. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:26, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T08:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T08:26:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-04-29T22:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yo, Torchy. My thanks!! Please give my kind regards to that evil twin of yours. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:33, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-30T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-04-30T09:33:00.000Z-This_section_has_no_title","replies":[]}}-->

I hope you forgive my assumption: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Koschat. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T16:22:00.000Z","author":"78.26","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-78.26-2017-05-01T16:22:00.000Z-Koschat_again","replies":[]}}-->

You are very humorous!!! UpsandDowns1234 (🗨) (My Contribs) 17:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T17:31:00.000Z","author":"UpsandDowns1234","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-UpsandDowns1234-2017-05-01T17:31:00.000Z-Ha_ha_ha","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T17:39:00.000Z-UpsandDowns1234-2017-05-01T17:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

People keep telling me to buzz off, alas. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T17:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T17:39:00.000Z-UpsandDowns1234-2017-05-01T17:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2017-05-01T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T17:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK let's buzz. Martin, please keep some distance from TRM. Plenty of others appreciate your humor more. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2017-05-01T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T22:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2017-05-01T22:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Drmies. No worries. TRM works extremely hard for the project and seems to have quite a lot on his plate just now. Joining the Million Mile Club sounds like quite a safe distance to adopt for a while. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-01T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T22:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2017-05-01T22:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-UpsandDowns1234-2017-08-30T02:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T22:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, speaking of miles, I am going the extra mile to avoid a block or ban. Ups and Downs (↕) 02:53, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-30T02:53:00.000Z","author":"UpsandDowns1234","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-UpsandDowns1234-2017-08-30T02:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-01T22:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-30T17:36:00.000Z-UpsandDowns1234-2017-08-30T02:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ups"}}-->

But looks like you've now just run out of gas. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-30T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-30T17:36:00.000Z-UpsandDowns1234-2017-08-30T02:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Amazing what you can do with a laptop in Wales – and without leaving the house, apparently. Let's hope you haven't been blatantly [promoting extremism] on YouTube. After all, you could choose to spend your precious time trying to improve the world, instead… It's all a question of priorities, I guess. JezGrove (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-02T19:44:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-02T19:44:00.000Z-Get_your_priorities_straight!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-02T22:22:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-02T19:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

That looks like a perfectly well-constructed table to me. Regrettably, I've had to spend several hours removing your blatantly risky Hammersmith Odeon link (although it did have a great vibe and some very neat (hats) going on). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-02T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-02T22:22:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-02T19:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-05-02T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-02T22:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

They'll be deleting hard-earned World Records next. JezGrove (talk) 22:40, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-02T22:40:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-02T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-02T22:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Don't panic, I emailed Alemayehu Eshete and he says it's cool. — Jimmy Saveloy (talk) 17:28, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-04T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Jimmy Saveloy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jimmy_Saveloy-2017-05-04T17:28:00.000Z-Amharic_funk","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, Any idea if there is a proper name for sentences like "Are you as bored as I am?" which can be read backwards with a (kind of) reversed meaning, in this case, "Am I as bored as you are?" I thought I might find it in the 'See also' section of Antimetabole or related pages, but apparently not. The sentence seems to be doing the rounds on social media, but it can't be the only example of this type of structure. Thanks in advance! JezGrove (talk) 20:00, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-13T20:00:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-13T20:00:00.000Z-Are_you_as_bored_as_I_am?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:23:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-13T20:00:00.000Z","c-Sca-2017-05-28T15:10:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-13T20:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Jez. I think it's just a type of palindrome, as defined here. A sentence palindrome rather than a word palindrome? I also looked at commutative property. Yes, there must be other examples in English. But perhaps more common in languages that use logograms, I guess, e.g. these But then, I'm a nut for a jar of tuna. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-14T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:23:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-13T20:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-05-16T17:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Martin, sorry to be s-l-o-w replying. It seems to be a word or word-by-word palindrome. Another example is "First ladies rule the State and state the rule: ladies first". All the best! JezGrove (talk) 17:00, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-16T17:00:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-16T17:00:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-16T20:54:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-16T17:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm impressed. Apart from your fancy punctuation, of course. But yes, come June, I suppose they May. Slowly worms cross over cross worms slowly. You know, isn't it? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:54, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-16T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-16T20:54:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-16T17:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Belated comment:

Smile, wavering wings

Above rains pour,

While hopefully sings

Love of shorn shore

Shore shorn of love

Sings hopefully while

Pour rains above,

Wings wavering, smile.

– Walt Kelly, 1952

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PS: Bored out of your wits? Try Borowitz. – Sca (talk) 01:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-29T01:20:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sca-2017-05-29T01:20:00.000Z-Sca-2017-05-28T15:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T15:57:00.000Z-Sca-2017-05-29T01:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the link and the poem! I found some more here. Life can so much easier in poetry. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-29T15:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T15:57:00.000Z-Sca-2017-05-29T01:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2017-05-29T17:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T15:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Walt Kelly (or his publisher) put out a songbook, Songs of the Pogo – illustrated of course with drawings of Pogo characters – sometime in the late '50s, I think. Very charming. Sca (talk) 17:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-29T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Sca-2017-05-29T17:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T15:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have music for FAC and was asked for free music samples. I think you are the expert when it comes to copyright on music ;) (In the last FAC, John tried.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-14T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-05-14T21:42:00.000Z-Free_music?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-05-14T21:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Gerda. Alas no, I seem to be a liability when it comes to copyright. But I'll certainly look over that article when I can :) Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-14T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-05-14T21:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Never mind, I try to forget the FAC --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-14T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T10:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T11:58:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Still a great article, Gerda. I'd say Francis was much more of an expert there than I could ever hope to be. I see some sound clips there already from Carl Flisch. This looks rather good, but I'm not 100% totally legally sure that it's copyright free. So I'll be getting another lecture from Fram soon, I expect. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:37, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T10:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T10:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Francis made me drop it. In two weeks, he can go for FA with it, - I wouldn't mind. An article that misses the most detailed source (because of copyright vio allegations that the best source checkers didn't see) and places labels before performers is nothing I want my name associated with. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T11:58:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T10:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:07:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T11:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's a great shame. Good luck to the article, then. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T12:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:07:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T11:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

The article doesn't have this but copyright and other tags. Where else to have a link to a translation in Chinese, and mentioning of who played violin in which recording? Every other article on a Bach cantata (that I know) has the information, at least as an external link. The discussion is on the RS noticeboard (linked on the bottom of the cantata talk). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T12:29:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:31:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

That seems inconsistent and disappointing. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:31, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T12:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:31:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please join the discussion, he's just made a complete list trying to make them all consistently his way, and found support. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T12:45:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Maybe I will. But I always feel a little apprehensive. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2017 (UTC) If you know what I mean [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T12:52:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T12:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T12:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

My typical Wikipedia editing pattern

Not that image please which is in the way of the tenor appearing pictured on DYK ;) - A beautiful day, long hike, so much better than all of this ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-06-10T16:55:00.000Z-Free_music?","replies":[]}}-->

Let's hope that Theresa May's plan to replace free school dinners for Year 1-3 school children with a hash breakfast isn't an omen for the likely outcome of our upcoming EU negotiations… And do her manifesto costings take into account the number of people who won't remember to pay the dementia tax? Still, when the Tories finally rebel against May in the distant future, perhaps the podium slogan she keeps standing behind — 'Forward To-get-her' — might come in useful! JezGrove (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-18T22:23:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-18T22:23:00.000Z-Tory_Manifesto","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-20T20:09:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-18T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hashtag-May-Dinner-Snatcher? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-20T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-20T20:09:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-05-18T22:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-05-22T22:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-20T20:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Whoops! It's not a U-turn – that's a "fake claim" (thanks, Donald!) I simply meant that under my strong and stable leadership there will be a cap on social care costs, er... even though I ruled one out, which I am going to demonstrate by putting it out for consultation. And I'll find that £8bn somewhere - maybe from higher taxes, but I'm going to exercise my mighty leadership by waiting for Matthew Taylor's report to come in first. And then I'll check down the back of the sofa. But, whatever you do, trust strong and stable Theresa and not weak and wobbly Corbyn - never trust a Jezza! Or the Trotskyist front page of The Times – "Pensioners to pay for May's social care U-turn"…? what Leftist propaganda! JezGrove (talk) 22:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-22T22:46:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-05-22T22:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-20T20:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 19 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Koschat, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1970, Austrian Post issued a commemorative postage stamp honoring the composer and bass singer Thomas Koschat? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Koschat. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas Koschat), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thanks again for all your help on the above! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-23T02:18:00.000Z","author":"78.26","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-78.26-2017-05-23T02:18:00.000Z-Gatoclass-2017-05-19T00:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-05-23T20:37:00.000Z-78.26-2017-05-23T02:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Look ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-23T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-05-23T20:37:00.000Z-78.26-2017-05-23T02:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

... that "strong and stable leadership" can be sung to the tune of "All Things Bright and Beautiful". You're welcome. Softlavender (talk) 01:02, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-29T01:02:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-05-29T01:02:00.000Z-Just_a_reminder_...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T16:02:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-05-29T01:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Queen T like you ain't never seen her? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2017 (UTC) ....52 Brand New Hospitals Annually... or maybe nun...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-29T16:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T16:02:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-05-29T01:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-06-01T09:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T16:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

One does begin to wonder: [12]. -- Softlavender (talk) 09:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-01T09:42:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-06-01T09:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-05-29T16:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T06:42:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-01T09:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

As Barry Gardiner said last night on Question Time, politicians always tend to "hedge away and try and answer a slightly different question... because they know can answer that one truthfully." I'm sure most would fail that test on a daily basis. Martinevans123 (talk) 06:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-02T06:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T06:42:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-01T09:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T06:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Maybe T can just be replaced with a tape-loop of "Strong and stable leadership" and "I'm very clear that". Beep  • Ping  • Blurp. At least that way she wouldn't have to actually interact with humans. Softlavender (talk) 06:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T06:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T07:32:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-07-03T10:26:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just the thing for PMQs. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-02T07:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-02T07:32:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Did someone say "soft"?? I think we might start calling you Peñón de Alhucemas? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-03T10:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-03T10:26:00.000Z-Softlavender-2017-06-02T06:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:International reactions to the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shootdown#Does the consensus listed below which are formed from a discussion on the MH17 talk page apply to this International Reactions page as well?. Mamasanju (talk) 22:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-04T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Mamasanju","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mamasanju-2017-06-04T22:27:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Talk:International_reactions_to_the_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17_sh","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T21:45:00.000Z-Mamasanju-2017-06-04T22:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for telling me. I added a comment. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T21:45:00.000Z-Mamasanju-2017-06-04T22:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The tension is now just getting unbearable. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:44, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T21:44:00.000Z-Strong_and_stable_walk_in_the_park?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

.... someone find me a strong and stable Chairman. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T21:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-06-09T04:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

... more like a weak and wobbly paddle down the swanny... but every silver lining has a dark and nasty cloud. Robevans123 (talk) 04:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T04:35:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-06-09T04:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T05:22:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-06-09T04:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it seems Theresa May is indeed now toast. Martinevans123 (talk) 05:22, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T05:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T05:22:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-06-09T04:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T05:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

The nappy election. Hopefully the grown-ups will soon be in charge again..Irondome (talk) 06:04, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T06:04:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T05:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:32:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, that is unfair Martin. I take that back. As I have said many times before, Mrs May can always come and live in my bathroom. She never replies to my emails, which has I would argue, caused her present slight problem. She never followed my advice to wear a Teletubbies costume during the campaign, and sort of gurgle. This I feel was a decisive mistake. Also she rather sharply rejected operation beard where I advocated her growing one and undertaking false flag rallies where she would only speak in Basque. Now I fear it is too late. The bouncy Scottish tory woman who seemed to do rather well will be the next Prime minister. She did not use the term strong and stable once. No one ever listens to me, except that woman at the co-op. Sigh. Irondome (talk) 06:32, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T06:32:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:32:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T06:35:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Did someone mention Mr. Blobby? Martinevans123 (talk) 06:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T06:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T06:35:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T06:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Arguably Mr.Floppy? Irondome (talk) 06:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T06:38:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:38:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T06:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:45:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now bed for a bit. I watched that comic opera all bloody night. I must be effing mad. At least i'm well pissed now, which is the only way to get through election nights, as my nan said once. I shall see you later me old mucker. I assume Mrs M will do me the common courtesy of not resigning till I wake up and belch at the T.V. Simon Irondome (talk) 06:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T06:45:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:45:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T21:22:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

... and the only antidote I can suggest.... Feckless cabaret? yes. Enormous schmaltz? yes. Popular club karaoke? almost. Outrageous gimmickry? undeniably. But still bucket loads of raw talent. And you don't just get Jeff, you also get a bit of Laurie Blue in this mini telegraph opera. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-09T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-09T21:22:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-09T06:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please don´t change bio content as we are Official Steve Norman team and don´t like current bio. We are working on a new biography and pics. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loregraphic (talk • contribs) 22:11, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Loregraphic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Loregraphic-2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z-Thank_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:17:00.000Z-Loregraphic-2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:26:00.000Z-Loregraphic-2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi. Pasquale Cerza? You're in an edit war. Just like the anon IP editor before you. You need to explain, at Talk:Steve Norman, to the other four editors who have reverted you, what you're attempting to do. Thank you! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T22:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:17:00.000Z-Loregraphic-2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What exactly did you mean by your edit summary here? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-08T22:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-08T22:26:00.000Z-Loregraphic-2017-06-08T22:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

As you are a major contributor to the Frome Hoard I wanted to ask if there is anything else you think needs to be done to the article to ensure it meets the Good article criteria? Do you think a GA nomination would be appropriate? If there are any issues I would be happy to try to address them - perhaps we could discuss on the article talk page?— Rod ^talk 14:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Rodw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rodw-2017-06-10T14:10:00.000Z-Frome_Hoard_?_GA_nom","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T14:13:00.000Z-Rodw-2017-06-10T14:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rod"}}-->

Cheers Rod. I'll try and take a look later. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2017 (UTC) ... looks like you've struck gold here, my lovely! That looks more like the Alfred Jewel— Rod ^talk 18:01, 10 June 2017 (UTC[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T14:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T14:13:00.000Z-Rodw-2017-06-10T14:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T18:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T14:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes indeed, well spotted! Any relation to Jimmy? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:06, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-10T18:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T18:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-10T14:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please note that Discography sections are to be formatted like:

• Name of album (Year)

not:

• Year: Name of album

This is per MOS:DISCOGRAPHY. Thanks.

Also for album article formatting like on Soul Meeting (King Curtis album)

• No need to italicize "All compositions by _____ except as noted"
• It should be "except where noted"
• No need to put the songwriters in small coding
• There is a Studio album infobox parameter that is for the studio. Recording is for the date only.
• No need to put Personnel in columns unless it has over 20 names listed.

This is all per the WP:MOSALBUM, the album style guide. Thanks again. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 02:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T02:03:00.000Z","author":"Jennica","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jennica-2017-06-22T02:03:00.000Z-Discography_formatting","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:48:00.000Z-Jennica-2017-06-22T02:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you so much for tidying up, Jennica. But I sometimes think songwriters look a bit neater when they're small? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:48, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T08:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:48:00.000Z-Jennica-2017-06-22T02:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jennica-2017-06-22T08:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

It doesn't say anything about that in the MOS:ALBUMS. I guess if you wanted to clarify, you could post on the talk page. It's probably not a big deal. I aim for consistency across all articles though. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 08:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T08:53:00.000Z","author":"Jennica","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jennica-2017-06-22T08:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:00:00.000Z-Jennica-2017-06-22T08:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Who am I to want to step out of line. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T09:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:00:00.000Z-Jennica-2017-06-22T08:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Excellent job on contextualizing the ridiculous claim that Dubliners, without any hint of homophobia, used non-offensive homophobic slurs in an entirely innocent way. It was better than actually entering into an edit war with the troll who claimed that it was supposed to be innocent in the first place. AnthroMimus (talk) 04:41, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T04:41:00.000Z","author":"AnthroMimus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:41:00.000Z-Oscar_Wilde_Statue","replies":["c-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:44:00.000Z-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

P.S. It almost restored my faith that a completely crowd-sourced encyclopedia actually could work. AnthroMimus (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T04:44:00.000Z","author":"AnthroMimus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:44:00.000Z-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:45:00.000Z-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your kind words, AnthroMimus. Join the club. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:45, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T08:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:45:00.000Z-AnthroMimus-2017-06-22T04:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T09:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Martin, long time no 'see'. Of course, the Irish can't claim to have a monopoly on 'witty' nicknames for local works of art - after all, the Angel of the North is known locally as the Gateshead Flasher. Cheers! JezGrove (talk) 09:48, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T09:48:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T09:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T08:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T09:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Did someone mention that "poof on the roof" again?? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC) "You ain't seen me, right?" [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T09:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T09:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

And there I was thinking "The streaker's feeling bleaker"… JezGrove (talk) 10:13, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T10:13:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T09:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T10:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

...just be careful you don't find barnacles growing in another place. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:21, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T10:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T10:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T10:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Are you taking the er... mickey? JezGrove (talk) 10:52, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T10:52:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T10:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T11:00:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oi!, matey boy. Just p*** off now, will ya?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC) .... but looking forward to seeing it's own pissing article?[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T11:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T11:00:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-22T10:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, "Hangèd I Shall Be" is a version of the Cruel Miller aka The Oxford Tragedy or later in the US the The Knoxville Girl, not the admittedly similar Down in the Willow Garden. I might work on The Knoxville Girl to make it a more general article about that murder ballad, which dates back to a 17th C murder in Shrewsbury.[13] Fences&Windows 21:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T21:43:00.000Z","author":"Fences and windows","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fences_and_windows-2017-06-22T21:43:00.000Z-Hang\u00e9d_I_Shall_Be","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T21:50:00.000Z-Fences_and_windows-2017-06-22T21:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Fences"}}-->

Many thanks for that. I've raised a discussion thread over at The Knoxville Girl. I was curious about the harmonic/ rhythmic structure of that Albion Band Battle of the Field song. As you may know, there is simply no info at all on the original vinyl album sleeve and no notes: [14] This source gives it as Roud 263, which is "The Cruel Miller" (Laws P35)"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-22T21:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-22T21:50:00.000Z-Fences_and_windows-2017-06-22T21:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[[15]]. Irondome (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T18:24:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:24:00.000Z-FYI","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:37:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

My giddy aunt! That's a veritable goldmine. I should tea and cocoa!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:37, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:37:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Remember..a dirty tap..means dirty tea. I am content. Irondome (talk) 18:54, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T18:54:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:58:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cor blimey, guv'nor. You've been down the East End again, haven't you Domey. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T18:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:58:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T18:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

[[16]] if people would have paid more attention to that then there would have been no need to make expensively produced bulk-tea making documentaries if you ask me me old china. Irondome (talk) 19:17, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T18:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T19:27:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z","c-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:42:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Indeed. Trouble brewing? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:27, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T19:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-25T19:27:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Oy gevalt! Irondome (talk) 19:42, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T19:42:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:42:00.000Z-Irondome-2017-06-25T19:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin. I saw your edit summary here and I assure you I did look. Well done for replacing the source with one which was not garbage. See WP:BDP for further info. --John (talk) 20:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-26T20:21:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2017-06-26T20:21:00.000Z-Tabloids","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-26T20:26:00.000Z-John-2017-06-26T20:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

We all knew that. Am guessing bucksfreepress.co.uk is only minor garbage. But great to see you're not sensitive about this at all. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-26T20:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-26T20:26:00.000Z-John-2017-06-26T20:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Only £1 billion? Arlene will burn through that in no time - typical penny-pinching Tories….! JezGrove (talk) 22:14, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-28T22:14:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-06-28T22:14:00.000Z-Austerity?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-28T22:22:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-28T22:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

OMG, what are ye sayin' hexactalay?? ... hey cun ye resust a good ole honust Olster Fray, Theresa?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-28T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-28T22:22:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-28T22:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2017-06-28T23:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-28T22:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hondootedly you're right – I take off my hat to you. Still, at least Donald Trump doesn't have a monopoly on the Orange insurgency.JezGrove (talk) 23:08, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-28T23:08:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2017-06-28T23:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-28T22:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T07:56:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-28T23:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

At least Arlene's singing? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T07:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T07:56:00.000Z-JezGrove-2017-06-28T23:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Maybe I should change my username to this. It would definitely be shorter. I won't ask which meaning you were alluding to. ;-) --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 09:49, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T09:49:00.000Z","author":"Money money tickle parsnip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T09:49:00.000Z-nippy","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T12:32:00.000Z-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T09:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yo Nips. Not too sure of which meaning myself. But I hear that "nipping newts" can be very endearing. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T12:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T12:32:00.000Z-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T09:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rivertorch-2017-06-29T15:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T12:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gussie would be aghast. Then again, I've sometimes wished somebody had nipped this Newt years ago. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 15:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T15:50:00.000Z","author":"Rivertorch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rivertorch-2017-06-29T15:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T12:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T17:30:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-06-29T15:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm afraid you've both totally lost me! Anyway, thanks for your response at Talk:Under Milk Wood. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T17:30:00.000Z","author":"Money money tickle parsnip","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T17:30:00.000Z-Rivertorch-2017-06-29T15:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T18:17:00.000Z-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T17:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I get so carried away at Wikipedia that I often lose myself. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2017 (UTC) or do I mean "get in a real mess"? [17] [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-06-29T18:17:00.000Z-Money_money_tickle_parsnip-2017-06-29T17:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

... around under top 400 and storming in at 400 (Wikipedians ranked by number of edits).

BTW do you know where James Dean Bradfield was born? An unregistered editor removed him from Pontypool, but his page has not been updated. The sources are unclear. He may have been born in Tredegar, Pontllanfraith, or Pontypool... Evans123 the Death (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-01T17:07:00.000Z-Congratulations_on_bubbling_...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T17:16:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-01T17:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Evans123 the Death"}}-->

Ah-ha !! Will nothing stop the Welsh rotter??! A real sizzling chart barhd sarhd !! .... Not 'arf, pop-pickers !! Dave Nice 123 (talk) 17:16, 1 July 2017 (UTC) not sure where Boyo, but I do know he was in fact born a girl.... did someone say Lambrini moment? ... "so who am I to question why I'm famous" [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T17:16:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-01T17:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T20:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T17:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

But well done, SpizzEEnergi.... the original and the best. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:47, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T20:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-01T17:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

So anyway, yes, um, thanks for this latest embarrassment. As I'm sure you must know, I regard that list as perhaps the worst possible indicator of anything worth indicating. About half of my edits are removing superfluous full stops and adding superfluous links, And the other half are correcting my own spelling mistakes. I mean the ranking doesn't even take into account the size of the edits, or even average size. I struggle to add a single coherent sentence, while plenty of other editors create entire new articles in a single edit. I guess I'll just have to resign from the list. But thanks for that special Lambrini moment. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2017 (UTC) [18][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-06T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-06T20:36:00.000Z-Congratulations_on_bubbling_...","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-10T00:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-06T20:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ok, Puddles may be the all-time winner of One Song to the Tune of Another, but can he explain the rules of Mornington Crescent? Although he could manage this - good game, good game. Robevans123 (talk) 00:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-10T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-10T00:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-06T20:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T06:58:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-10T00:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, very funny. "You're my "favourite" (... not really). Martinevans123 (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC) Did someone say wikibreak? Apparently I can check out of my account any time I want, but I can never leave. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-10T06:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T06:58:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-10T00:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-10T15:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T06:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Last thing I remember, I was running for the door. I had to find the passage back to the place I was before. "Relax" said the night man, 'We are programmed to receive. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!'  Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 15:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-10T15:46:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-10T15:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T06:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-10T16:44:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-10T15:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Gareth\u00a0Griffith\u2011Jones"}}-->

We need a inspector to sort out this sort of problem. Or maybe appoint a counter cultural attaché (by appointment to the court of St Ella of Artois). Mr Ffff springs to mind. Robevans123 (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-10T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-10T16:44:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-10T15:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T19:14:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-10T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Deffo. Or how about a Queen Mary? ... of Shoplifters ... of Lairs or even ... of Snot? I'd feel like a real king. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC) .... so you think you can tell? [19] [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-10T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-10T19:14:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-10T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There wasn't but with some people you may have to show them their errors and let them realize it. I wouldn't want to lead the lamb to the butcher.2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 10:29, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T10:29:00.000Z","author":"2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:29:00.000Z-Gender_assignment","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-02T10:34:00.000Z-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think this may be better discussed at Talk:Albert Nobbs? But I assume you mean slaughter. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:34, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T10:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-02T10:34:00.000Z-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I would never slaughter as I am not a butcher.2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 10:36, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T10:36:00.000Z","author":"2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:36:00.000Z-Gender_assignment","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-02T10:38:00.000Z-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

In most cultures those are two separate occupations. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:38, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T10:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-02T10:38:00.000Z-2605:E000:9152:8F00:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6-2017-07-02T10:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Came across this documentary late last night on BBC4, 2006-2007, Wye - Voices from the Valley. Well worth a look. Some stunning photography. Robevans123 (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-04T12:19:00.000Z-Lyrical_Wye","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T12:38:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T12:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Wye Do You Only Message Me When You're High?" But no, many thanks, Rob. Not seen that before. Looks really nice and relaxing and I will be sure to watch later. Thanks for the link! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:38, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T12:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T12:38:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-04T12:57:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T12:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

A bit of class Cheers!
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Great track. BTW I'm always high as a kite - although the one shown in the film was struggling to get any elevation in the mid-Wales snow... Robevans123 (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T13:04:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-04T13:04:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-04T12:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T13:21:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T13:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, not that other mid-Wales snow, then. FredKite123 (talk) 13:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T13:21:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T13:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-04T14:22:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T13:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've not been myself since after the operation... The Lonely Daffodil (talk) 14:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T14:22:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-04T14:22:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T13:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T14:30:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T14:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, that can leave one feeling a bit shaggy. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T14:30:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-04T14:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T20:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T14:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Robbo, magical. A neighbour who I went to school with has a vineyard at Parva Farm. And I have relations who still breed lambs at Builth. The Wye is such a special river. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:41, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-31T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T20:41:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-04T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-31T21:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Glad you enjoyed it - think I'll give it another watch before it runs out on Thursday early morning. The Wye and Afon Lwyd are the rivers of my childhood (and the Usk to a lesser extent). I recently found out the Afon Lwyd was still effectively an open sewer until the 1950s, let alone the industrial waste... Quite an interesting tale of rivalries between different urban councils and Monmouthshire County Council. Take a look at pages 129 to 134 from here (health report for Monmouthshire for 1937) for an example of bureaucratic skullduggery! The Wellcome Institute has paid for the digitisation of a whole load of these reports for British counties. They are normally a bit drier than the example given - the medical officer David Rocyn-Jones was pretty exasperated I think. The reports do reveal a lot of social history if look at them from the 1900s to the 1980s (treatment of tuberculosis, unmarried mothers, clean air acts, smoking etc). Cheers Robevans123 (talk) 21:17, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-31T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-31T21:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T21:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-31T21:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have to admit, the River Usk has always been been far more my river than the Wye. I remember the Bulmore Lido in Caerleon which was opposite the Afon Lwyd. By the way, it seems that Derek and Veronica Morgan farm at "Safn y Coed" at Llangurig. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-31T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T21:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-31T21:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-31T22:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T21:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Bulmore Lido! Blast from the past - such a shame that it's gone. I spent a happy day sitting on Caerleon Bridge in 1976 measuring the height of the water every 15 minutes. I was working for Welsh Water in Caerleon at the time. We stayed hydrated with supplies from the Ship Inn... Robevans123 (talk) 22:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-31T22:04:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-31T22:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-31T21:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-10T10:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-31T22:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks like lidos in Wales might be on the way back. The Pontypridd one looks very jolly. Robevans123 (talk) 10:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-10T10:31:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-10T10:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-31T22:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-10T10:44:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-10T10:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, looks a bit busy over in Ponty. You'd probably need to shuffle! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-10T10:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-10T10:44:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-10T10:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin, I didn't know how else to contact. I was the user who edited Fred West cause of death. I did it because I recently found out a very good friend of mine was deputy coroner on West's death. I've never edited before so please bare with me! T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.255.232.130 (talk) 00:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-13T00:35:00.000Z","author":"85.255.232.130","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-85.255.232.130-2017-07-13T00:35:00.000Z-Fred_West_death","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-13T07:33:00.000Z-85.255.232.130-2017-07-13T00:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, 85.255.232.130. Yes a note here is fine. Unfortunately we can't add information on the basis of what we've been told by "very good friend", regardless of their occupation. We need to use reliable sources. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-13T07:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-13T07:33:00.000Z-85.255.232.130-2017-07-13T00:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Grrrrrr. (And just when I'm having cmptr probs, too. Grrrr.) Sca (talk) 22:24, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-18T22:24:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2017-07-18T22:24:00.000Z-Chappaquiddick","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:26:00.000Z-Sca-2017-07-18T22:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

A bit surprised that no definitive cause of death is given at Mary Jo Kopechne and that the word "drown" does not appear. The Cats just give us Category:Road incident deaths in Massachusetts. One for the conspiracy theorists perhaps? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-19T07:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:26:00.000Z-Sca-2017-07-18T22:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sca-2017-07-20T00:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, "died in the submerged vehicle" makes it pretty obvious that she drowned, but the article should have said so if that's what the coroner ruled. Sca (talk) 00:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-20T00:47:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sca-2017-07-20T00:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-20T07:31:00.000Z-Sca-2017-07-20T00:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

As in "died in a submerged vehicle, that was full of air, as a result of head injuries...."? etc. etc., One can make an educated guess, based on the other circumstances. But I would have thought if there was one single fact that needed to be in that article it would be the coroner's ruling. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-20T07:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-20T07:31:00.000Z-Sca-2017-07-20T00:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Apparently I can't read; I missed the second "was" so it looked like a misleading edit summary. Sigh. Pinkbeast (talk) 23:00, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-18T23:00:00.000Z","author":"Pinkbeast","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pinkbeast-2017-07-18T23:00:00.000Z-Jacob_Rees-Mogg","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:28:00.000Z-Pinkbeast-2017-07-18T23:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Easily done. Let's hope the Moggfather will forgive you. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:28, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-19T07:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:28:00.000Z-Pinkbeast-2017-07-18T23:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-19T08:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not too much hubris although watch out for this fellow!  Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 08:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-19T08:36:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-07-19T08:36:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-19T07:28:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Gareth\u00a0Griffith\u2011Jones"}}-->

DYK that I am in the middle of five of my memories in a row, one each set? Almost too much of a good thing! Two on top of my talk, one pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T21:35:00.000Z-Musical_memories","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T21:40:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T21:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for telling me, Gerda. Great work. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T21:40:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T21:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T21:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

My memory, created by LouisAlain, with reviews added by Cg2p0B0u8m, and now you copy-edited, thank you! - Collaboration as I like it! - Project opera has a rule: when the piece has an article, no link for the composer (to avoid a sea of blue) - and it's almost an opera ;) - Look at some external links for images of the Frankfurt event, - the stage director did the opening of the Barcelona Olympics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T22:24:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:24:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T21:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:28:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. Adding any author link to an adjacent linked work is usually overlink. Just thought I'd try and sneak one in, as he is notable, obviously! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T22:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:28:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

I almost tolerated it, because of "dramatic oratorio" in between, so no "sea" anyway. Stunning image, the chosen one, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T22:33:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Same reason! Yes, is stunning. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-21T22:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:37:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-21T22:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T20:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

So today we have music that friends reprinted after it seemed lost for more than 200 years, and the singer I heard as Medea. See external link for more stunning images. To be continued. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-22T20:35:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T20:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-21T22:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T20:40:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T20:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

"lost and passionate"?? Yes, I often feel a bit like that. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 22 July 2017 (UTC) [20].[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-22T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T20:40:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes. Tomorrow a singer who sang two wonderful Brahms songs for voice, viola and piano, only to find out: no article yet, not even in German. The first written as a wedding present for Joseph Joachim and his alto wife, the second much later to repair the marriage (which didn't work). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-22T21:06:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, yes here she is. Heavenly. Martinevans123 (talk)

Thank you! Andreas Scholl (who sang "He was despised" for us, and you would have heard a needle fall) said that it is his favourite Bach aria. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-22T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T21:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry to be racist, but Irish people are so lovely. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-22T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T21:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-22T21:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-23T11:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T11:59:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-23T11:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-22T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-28T20:54:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-23T11:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Let's not knock the Welsh, though. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-28T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-28T20:54:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-23T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-28T23:34:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-28T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Spy on me baby use satellite, Infrared to see me move through the night. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:34, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-28T23:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-28T23:34:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-28T20:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yep, he was one of the "many others" ref'd in my edit summary :) So, some coals to Newcastle for your delectation. Kafka Liz (talk) 08:58, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T08:58:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T08:58:00.000Z-Musical_memories","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T09:03:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T08:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

For more delectation, I archived my memories. - What do you think of this? The piece is also among my memories. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T09:03:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T09:03:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T08:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T09:12:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T09:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's really a lovely piece. Reminds me, albeit very slightly, of Gregorian chants. Have you ever been into those? I really love them; not sure if you'd like, but give a listen if you get a chance. I'll see if I can find a link. Kafka Liz (talk) 09:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T09:12:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T09:12:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T09:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T09:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

We sang the Requiem, and we regularly do four-part psalm recitation like that, just in German. - by this (talk discussion) I meant: what to you think about a revert like vandalism? - We are supposed to assume good faith, but it looks like bait to me, which I will not take ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T10:10:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T10:10:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T09:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T10:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, the link just brings me to the top of talk page. If you mean the infobox discussion, I don't know the history there and would prefer not to get into it. Would rather talk music and art :) Kafka Liz (talk) 14:16, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T10:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T15:20:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T16:02:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

The word infobox - even if some tell you otherwise - is nothing to be afraid of. I made one for that Requiem, as I saw them for Mozart, Verdi, Reger, - and could have added Rutter and probably others. It was reverted by an IP without an edit summary, as if it was vandalism. Some users may actually think any infobox is vandalism, some may think one by me is, or it could be just a misclick, which is something I am also guilty of. Anyway, I am not in a position to revert even once, so went to the talk of the article and the IP, and Ceoil and here, where the nice people are ;) - Infoboxes for compositions have not been contentious, period. Bruckner symphonies had them from 2007, Mahler's from 2013. Spread that news, it's too little known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T15:20:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Look at this Requiem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T16:02:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T16:02:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T14:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T18:05:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T16:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

I probably shouldn't say this, but I feel it ought be left to the discretion of the author. You can see that some articles I started have infoboxes while others do not. I feel it works in some instances and not in others. I don't really understand a need for uniformity here, and I also suggest we move this off poor Martin's talkpage. Kafka Liz (talk) 18:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T18:05:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T18:05:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T16:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T21:00:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T18:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't mind a revert. I mind a rollback that makes no sense, that's all. When I'm reverted with a reason, even if it's just "I don't like it", I swallow it and go to the next. - Who is the author? Many articles on musical compositions were written before {{infobox musical composition}} existed (created in 2013), which has now more than 1000 inclusions, including the Ninth Symphony and Messiah. Many of their authors are not active anymore. - I will eventually take it Duruflé's Requiem to GA, if - as Ceoil said - I get to it before I die. I did that for Fauré's which has no infobox for respect of Tim riley. - When I say "spread the news" I mean Martin also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-29T21:00:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-29T21:00:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2017-07-29T18:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Same piece as above: opus magnum and mine (our rehearsal pictured) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-02T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T21:19:00.000Z-Musical_memories","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:25:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Won't work, I was the photographer ;) - I had the keyboard player right in front of me who switched from harspsichord to organ and back, and who played from a facsimile of the score in the performance!! - If you want to spot me, look on my user page. Photo by Gabriel Dessauer, his daughter the oboist, Ignace Michiels on her left. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-02T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:25:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:31:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ha-ha! Sneaky. But I think we can all see a very slight reflection of you there in the thrash metal drums. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-02T22:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:31:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

I remember that on one of my userpages archived, I said which row, but am too tire to look it up. Thanks for some responses where I bite my tongue ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-02T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, "Tongues" - opening track!! [21] Martinevans123 (talk) 22:48, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-02T22:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-02T22:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-02T22:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Today, three operas on the main page, one that I saw, curious about another (read play article!), and going to find out about the third which is a stub so far. - Off to vacation after expanding! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-04T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-04T09:33:00.000Z-Musical_memories","replies":[]}}-->

Still plenty of photographic "gaps" in the article if you find yourself at a loose end one day! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T11:30:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-07-23T11:30:00.000Z-Grade_II*_listed_buildings_in_Monmouthshire","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T11:36:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-07-23T11:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the reminder, KJP. I'm not much of a Bill Brandt. But. yes, am tempted to order a nice deep shagpile from Chepstow Carpets Ltd. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T11:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T11:36:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-07-23T11:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-07-23T11:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T11:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Chepstow Carpets has closed. But you could get a course in business poetry from the current occupants of Moynes Court... Robevans123 (talk) 11:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T11:54:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-07-23T11:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T11:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:14:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-23T11:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Closed?? am gutted... in fact, now feeling a bit dizzy. But ah yes, business poetry, don't you just love it? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:14:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-07-23T11:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-KJP1-2017-07-23T12:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

What a pity. Had they still been open, and had you got us a photo of Moynes Court, I should have thanked you with the gift of a fine Khorassan, of the kind which adorns Sir Winston's study at Chartwell. Which just happens to be up for review! KJP1 (talk) 12:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T12:40:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-07-23T12:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:45:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I now feel suitably carpetted. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-23T12:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-23T12:45:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-07-23T12:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T06:15:00.000Z","author":"Cullen328","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cullen328-2017-07-24T06:15:00.000Z-RfA","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z-Cullen328-2017-07-24T06:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is a first from RfA. And a very welcome message. My very best wishes and good luck.
My dear friend Ethel Baxter warmly sends you a bowl of her very best traditional Highland CULLEN Skink.
-- Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z-Cullen328-2017-07-24T06:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

And after the round of thanks (110 on my watchlist, which didn't include those who responded), and nourished by the soup, he can turn to what happened to my RfA question (last link in the top bottom on my talk) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Did you eat enough soup for a witty response to "fancy" there? Perhaps asking for one - just one - reference to content? I'd break my New Year's resolution if I did. Inspiration for wording can be found on Maritana, mostly by Voce, "By all means keep that clunky, redundant navbox sitting at the top of the article and chalk it up as a victory". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T12:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T14:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll have to ponder on that one. Is it really a good sales proposition? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:30, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T14:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T13:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T14:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T14:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not quite sure about the meaning of sales here. I have nothing to offer ;) - I don't recall having been reverted with edit summary "ridiculous". I remember others, though, "No thanks, Gerda, this infrobox is absolutely horrendous and ugly" and "Poor old Cello Concerto! Why inflict an idiot box on this when the other major works escape?" - For some reason, these amuse me more than "ridiculous". What a dangerous thing I just said? A friend was taken to ANI for being amused having fun, - he said Thank you, link just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T14:45:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T14:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T14:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Soup Box Derby, anyone? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:22, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T14:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T16:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-25T21:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

I understand everyone who wants to avoid the new word, as I do ;) - btw, the sources for the flowery edit summaries date from 2013, a Bach cantata and - as you will have guessed - a cello concerto, and both obediently without a box ever since ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-24T16:21:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-24T16:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

3 new ones ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-25T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-25T21:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-24T15:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-07-25T21:44:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-25T21:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Great work, Gerda. Well done (yet again!) Martinevans123 (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-25T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-07-25T21:44:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-07-25T21:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T21:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-25T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Completely different job: get a little bit of a long Slovak article over to English, - I started in user space, if you want to peek. I told Smerus whose house is almost next door (well, one block away). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T21:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-07-25T21:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:08:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T21:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I saw Klastorska 36! He has very some very nice pieces. So, I've already booked a transit van for when he's on holiday. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T22:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:08:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T21:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T22:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Best in Festival time: "Without music, life would be a mistake......" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T22:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:16:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T22:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ooo, Jonathan Powell? ... must be worth a visit, then! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T22:16:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T22:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martinevans,
I think of you as being the Earl Hines [& much else] Wiki guru ....

Summat-funny seems to have happened to the Biog section of Earl Hines: 'Early Life' now reads, "Later, Hines said that he was playing piano around Pittsburgh "before the word 'jazz' was even invented".[14] and $15 a week.[15][16] " - but if you then click on edit ... it all seems hunkier-than-dory.

Are you guru-enough to fix it? I'm not.

Best.

Mr T — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tolesi (talk • contribs) 08:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z","author":"Tolesi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tolesi-2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z-An_Earl_Hines_mystery","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-08-04T08:58:00.000Z-Tolesi-2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-08-04T22:27:00.000Z-Tolesi-2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

You'll be claiming that Martin's home is Tir Iarll next.  Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 08:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-04T08:58:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2017-08-04T08:58:00.000Z-Tolesi-2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Gareth\u00a0Griffith\u2011Jones"}}-->

Less of a guru, more of a gnu, I fear. I'll try and take a look. But I'm sure there's no need to get angry! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-04T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-04T22:27:00.000Z-Tolesi-2017-08-04T08:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-05T20:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-04T22:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

... it was just a missing >. Always treat ref mark-ups with caution! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-05T20:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-05T20:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-04T22:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tolesi-2017-08-06T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-05T20:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

'Are you guru-enough to fix it?' There - I told you so! Thank You Tolesi (talk) 22:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-06T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Tolesi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tolesi-2017-08-06T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-05T20:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Martin, it's been a while, so I decided just to be bold and propose a rename for the Monkey selfie article. If you want to weigh in, you can do so here: Talk:Monkey_selfie#Requested_move_9_August_2017

Thanks, Greg (talk) 12:33, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T12:33:00.000Z","author":"Greggydude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Greggydude-2017-08-09T12:33:00.000Z-Monkey_selfie_move","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T12:34:00.000Z-Greggydude-2017-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Greg"}}-->

Just did! lol Martinevans123 (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T12:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T12:34:00.000Z-Greggydude-2017-08-09T12:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-09T13:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T12:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

These monkeys seem very pleased to have their photo taken... Robevans123 (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T13:46:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-09T13:46:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T12:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T14:19:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-09T13:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

... and who said "ArbCom doesn't have any balls" ?? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:19, 9 August 2017 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T14:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T14:19:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-09T13:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ianmacm-2017-08-09T15:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T14:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Had a look at this image of George Washington. It's the most famous one of him and is used as the basis of the United States one-dollar bill. I think it's meant to be his real hair, not a horsehair wig. Fortunately, this source agrees.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:23, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T15:23:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2017-08-09T15:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T14:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T19:58:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-08-09T15:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

"Has his hair elegance? Has his hair fragrance?" Mr. Justice Cocklecarrot123 (talk) 19:58, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-09T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-09T19:58:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-08-09T15:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Mr. Justice Cocklecarrot123"}}-->

Morning Martin, a couple of things. Sources 9/10 in the above are both dead. Do you have any updated links for the grave, as it's not mentioned in anything I've got? I hope my updating has retained all the earlier information. Re. the Dingestow Court fish, it is indeed £50, but Bradney, unsurprisingly given he was writing early last century, gives it thus, 50l. Would you like me to change it? I can see it may be confusing. Lastly, any idea how on earth the Polish article on St Martin's is so long? Who would have thought its fame would have spread so far. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 05:34, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T05:34:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-08-15T05:34:00.000Z-Church_of_St_Martin,_Cwmyoy","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-08-15T05:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Refs 9 & 10 fixed (slight changes in pathnames) - but they only say Gill farmed and lived near Abergavenny. He is buried there. See this photo album - 3rd on top row. It's a good set of photos but they have full rights reserved... Which is a shame as I think Cold War Warrior on epernity is the same person as Jaggery on Geograph (where he adds freely available images). You could use this link from the Megalithic Portal. Interestingly, Gill left £2,000 to the Friends of the Friendless Churches Society and his funeral service was at St Bridget's, Skenthrith.

Polish article doesn't seem to say much more, but has lots off letters with accents. No new references. Robevans123 (talk) 08:43, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-08-15T05:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T17:27:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T18:55:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, Polish does have a lot of crazy accents! Many thanks for fixing those links, Rob. Yes, Gill's gravestone would make a good addition, I think. Perhaps the megalithic.co.uk link could be used as a reference for now. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:27, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T17:27:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

KJP1, yes I'd put £, or perhaps just a link to pounds. It looks more odd to me because it's at the end of the sentence, I think. There might well be some guideline for this over at WP:MOS, but I hesitate to ask sometimes, fearing a wall-of-text-ten-feet-deep for the slightest little departure from the prescribed house style for any jot and tittle. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T18:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T18:55:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T08:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T18:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Something fishy - @Martinevans123 and KJP1: the backslash goes between shillings and pence, so 50/- or 50/ is 50 shillings, not pounds. See here for details. I would just do the quote as "fish to the value of 50 shillings". You could wikilink to Shilling (British coin), [which also uses the 1/- convention]. Robevans123 (talk) 20:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T18:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:09:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

I had thought the very same thing (as in 60/-, 70/- and 80/-) and that sounds more like an expected value for a country house pond in the 1640s? But I don't have that volume of Bradney's to look it up. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:09:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

£50 would be a king's ransom... And if the value given was from records from the period, it would almost certainly be in guineas not pounds, although there were pound coins around. Robevans123 (talk) 20:34, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T20:34:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T20:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

That poor woman from the Daily Echo should have gone to Specsavers. I suspect Bradney's assertion is wholly apocryphal. But the history of that coin, struck in Oxford, is quite amazing. I never knew that Charles I even had a Royal Mint in Aberystwyth! It's mentioned at Aberystwyth Castle. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:48:00.000Z-Church_of_St_Martin,_Cwmyoy","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T21:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

And I didn't know there had been silver mining in Ceredigion, or that it's still going on today (although most of the revenue probably comes from the visitors!). Robevans123 (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T21:07:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-15T21:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T20:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T21:32:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T21:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Can you dig it? You can't beat a bit of traditional Welsh silver, can you. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-15T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T21:32:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-15T21:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-KJP1-2017-08-16T05:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T21:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

My mistake. Fortunately, The Hundred of Raglan is the one Bradney I do have. Really must try and get the others but the 1990s reprints have been out-of-print for years, and the prices for the originals are shocking. Anyways, now corrected. KJP1 (talk) 05:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-16T05:25:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-KJP1-2017-08-16T05:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-15T21:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T07:43:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-08-16T05:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. Thanks for correcting. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-16T07:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T07:43:00.000Z-KJP1-2017-08-16T05:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Les Djinns: I asked LouisAlain, see his talk, and you can do the same, he is one of the angels around here, - Floq, do you here me? - Guess what: I could add the Echo Klassik 2017 to one of my recent articles, and tomorrow's pictured DYK is sort of related. More tomorrow. - My last pictured DYK made it to the stats, but now she was more attractive (don't tell Hillbilly) than a palace in winter ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-16T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-16T20:47:00.000Z-Djinns","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-16T20:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, he is. I wish I had thought of that. He's never miserable. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-16T20:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

The secret code to the lost music is Schloss Ledenburg. If you have the time, read the 37 pages (in the journal ref) devoted to the music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-17T06:21:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The secret code to the quote mentioned on Arvo Pärt is this (rotation, you need to go in edit mode), still works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-17T21:33:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-16T20:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-17T21:38:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll get to those 37 pages soon, Gerda, don't worry. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:38, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-17T21:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-17T21:38:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-17T21:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

They were right, of course. And banned, by our charming community. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-17T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-17T21:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-17T21:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I created the bridge prize, - building bridges is a good topic! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T09:44:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T09:44:00.000Z-Djinns","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T09:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T09:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Very nice! Great to see Arvo there. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-19T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-19T09:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-19T09:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It strikes me that user sanctions would be more fun if we styled them after Play Your Cards Right. "So, we're looking at a three-month block, do the community think we should go higher or lower? ..... lower than three-months, one-month .... higher or lower? .... higher than one month ..... oooooh, you don't get anything for a pair, not in this game!" Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T19:28:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2017-08-20T19:28:00.000Z-Brucie","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:27:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-08-20T19:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

And you, an admin!? You should be deeply ashamed! Programme titles go in italics ok?? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:27:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2017-08-20T19:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

... for a minute there I thought you meant this Brucie and her new exciting SPI panel game?? -- Mouldy old Phil 123 (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jimmy_Saveloy-2017-08-21T20:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

I must say, I did laugh at Threesie's comment at ITN... 75 years in showbiz and not a whiff of noncing: "Diddly do well". --Jimmy Saveloy (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2017 (UTC) Some art[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T20:21:00.000Z","author":"Jimmy Saveloy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jimmy_Saveloy-2017-08-21T20:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T20:29:00.000Z-Jimmy_Saveloy-2017-08-21T20:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now just look here Mister so-called "slash-and-burn" features. You're just not welcome here.... with your jangling medallion, grotesque Leeds accent and happy-go-lucky jaunty tombstone!! You're just "all cigar and no knickers". yours ever, Kangaroo-on-remand-sport 123 (talk) 20:29, 21 August 2017 (UTC) p.s. and after that recent Spanish paternity case, I think we can all see who the real father was.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T20:29:00.000Z-Jimmy_Saveloy-2017-08-21T20:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just returning from a great concert! Did you know that the Rheingau Musik Festival presented at the Kurhaus, Wiesbaden a concert with the Baltic Sea Philharmonic, conducted by Kristjan Järvi, beginning with Arvo Pärts Swansong, then Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto, with Alexander Malofeef (age 16), then Stavinsky's L'Oiseau de feu which they played standing and from memory?! ... that during the second encore, the whole hall clapped, and the conductor jumped from the podium and danced with ladies in the first row? Some articles to be written in the next future. - Did you know that the festival was my fourth article ever, and on the Main page today (with a soprano)? ... that I wrote the Kurhaus with Dr. Blofeld? Small world. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:40:00.000Z-More_P\u00e4rt","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:45:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I tried short.... but alas, good old WMG, up to their usual tricks again - content blocked for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:45, 20 August 2017 (UTC) ... hey, that sounds like a real scorcher - wish I had been there![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:45:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:45:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Plenty of YouTube samples, + a review of the same piece. - Another feature of the concert I liked: the conductor didn't just point at players to make the stand up for extra applause, - he made them come forward, with him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

And now you want me to subscribe to The Australian?? Strewth, Sheila! I'll just search the Tube instead, thanks! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:59:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T21:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I found the link (and article!) by searching for the pianist's name, - I hope you can do the same, perhaps add "blonde-haired" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T21:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T21:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, yes I will do, just after I'm done with Arnett. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2017 (UTC) ("Funky Butt" is particularly fine - recorded 1981 with the vastly underrated Derek Smith on piano)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-20T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-20T21:20:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-20T21:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

enjoy - I sat above the orchestra on the right, but just above the camera view --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T10:41:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-21T10:41:00.000Z-More_P\u00e4rt","replies":[]}}-->

while you wait --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-21T10:46:00.000Z-More_P\u00e4rt","replies":[]}}-->

listening now, to Rachmaninoff! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T12:12:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-08-21T12:12:00.000Z-More_P\u00e4rt","replies":[]}}-->

Moar Pärt: guess what Teodor Currentzis chose to prepare us listeners for Mozart's Requiem: Hildegard von Bingen (to which they walked through the long aisle, with candles, Ligeti's Lux aeterna, 2 Alfred Schnittke, Stravinsky, 3 Purcell, and Salve Regina! Did you know that I started Hear my prayer just last week? Last piece Remember not, Lord, our offences (not by me), which they did with hand gestures of grief and remorse. Fascinating, theatre! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-01T22:19:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2017-09-01T22:19:00.000Z-More_P\u00e4rt","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry I reverted your overlinking fix at Penderyn. I wanted to just revert the IP edit but couldn't because they conflicted. Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Kendall-K1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kendall-K1-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z-Penderyn","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z-Kendall-K1-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. I think we're sorted now. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z-Kendall-K1-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2017-08-21T21:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good to see you've avoided a shipwreck. Robevans123 (talk) 21:53, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-21T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2017-08-21T21:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2017-08-21T19:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-22T19:08:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-21T21:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

After all that Penderyn, I can assure you that I still need a jolly good drying out. In fact, if you're ever up Shropshire way, boyo, perhaps you could book me into one of those new crowd-funded "tranny" wards? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-22T19:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2017-08-22T19:08:00.000Z-Robevans123-2017-08-21T21:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was in a second hand shop a while back and saw a Stylophone. I asked the owner of the shop whether there was still a market for these, bearing in mind what happened with Rolf Harris and that he is on the packaging of some of them.[22] He said yes. So that's OK. And radio stations haven't stopped playing "Space Oddity" because it features a Stylophone. I've always thought of the Stylophone as a cut price version of a Clavioline, most famously heard on "Telstar (instrumental)". I've never owned one, despite seeing them on the second hand market. Will this sell on eBay? I'm watching but not bidding.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-22T17:31:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2017-08-22T17:31:00.000Z-True_story","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2017-08-22T17:37:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-08-22T17:31:00.000Z","c-Ianmacm-2017-08-28T05:41:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2017-08-22T17:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->