Happy New Year 2016!

Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unneccessary blisters.    – Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:36, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T01:36:00.000Z","author":"Cullen328","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T01:36:00.000Z-2016","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T18:53:00.000Z-Cullen328-2015-12-31T01:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Robert Plant thanks you for your kind gift, and hopes 2016 is a real joy! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T18:53:00.000Z-Cullen328-2015-12-31T01:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy New Year!

Martinevans123,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Blackhat999","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blackhat999-2015-12-31T16:39:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year_Martinevans123!","replies":[],"displayName":"BlAcKhAt9(9"}}-->

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Many thanks. I guessed our paths must have crossed (?) I just didn't realise there were so many of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T22:40:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year_Martinevans123!","replies":[]}}-->

You are questioning the link at [3]. I've looked at it twice today since it has been in question. Possibly I am able to view it so easily because I am registered at this site. If I am, it certainly didn't cost anything or take much to register because I don't do paid memberships for wikipedia sourcing. I am guessing it is a cookie stored somewhere in my browser. Now to your request to fill out wiki source format. I explain in my user page, I resist doing that. Its an awkward, time consuming process, but more particularly, it serves no purpose. You ask "What?" but that is not solved with the format. What we want here is verifiability. I provided that with the source, albeit a weak message board link in this case. It is there for you and anyone else to read (as I said, perhaps requiring you to do a free registration). Filling out the wikiformat does not make it any more or less verifiable. It doesn't capture or repeat the text. It does nothing. You are welcome to run reflinks if you think it is necessary. Trackinfo (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Trackinfo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trackinfo-2015-12-31T22:25:00.000Z-White_Bird_link","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T22:36:00.000Z-Trackinfo-2015-12-31T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Trackinfo, thanks for your note. Filling out the wikiformat allows other editors, like me, to know that "registration is required". The first thing I did was to run reflinks. But of course it can't parse the page without the prior registration. I'm not sure you're aware how baffling the page looks if you're not registered - in fact, have you ever seen it? I've also looked for a better (and non-registration-required) source, since message boards are not generally considered to be WP:RS. But I can't find one. I have no problem with removing the "What", as it was added to prompt this discussion - although it might have been better to have had it at the article Talk Page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T22:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T22:36:00.000Z-Trackinfo-2015-12-31T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		This-Is-The-Army gals wishing you a Happy New Year!!!!!
		Wishing you a Happy New Year, (They Long to Be) Close to You! Hafspajen (talk) 09:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-29T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-12-29T09:26:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-12-29T09:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you, so much, Mr Jones. They look almost as alluring as the lovely Wilson, Keppel and Betty. Yes, they do "Long to Be (Close to Me)" ... but, fortunately, there is currently a 200 nautical miles Maritime Exclusion Zone. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2015-12-29T09:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Miss Jones. (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Miss Jones"}}-->

I'm saying nothing. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:55, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T23:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hafspajen-2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thank youMr Jones. (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2015-12-31T23:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2015-12-31T23:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Mr Jones"}}-->

Happy New Year!

Martinevans123,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 10:46, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davey2010-2016-01-01T10:46:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year,_Martinevans123!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T10:58:00.000Z-Davey2010-2016-01-01T10:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Many thanks, Davey. And the same to you with brass knobs on. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T10:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T10:58:00.000Z-Davey2010-2016-01-01T10:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Davey2010-2016-01-01T21:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T10:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

You're welcome Martin and thanks :), Have a great day :) –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 21:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Davey2010-2016-01-01T21:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T10:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There was a real life incident like this (sort of) in 2008.[4]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:54, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T10:54:00.000Z","author":"Ianmacm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ianmacm-2016-01-01T10:54:00.000Z-2016_-_Yr_wyf_heintio_bellach!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T11:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2016-01-01T10:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2666IanMacM\u2666"}}-->

A classic that one. "Mor falch o weld eich bod wedi dal y clefyd y Gymraeg." Lucky we don't live in Delhi where you can "even drive odd cars" every other day: [5]. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T11:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T11:04:00.000Z-Ianmacm-2016-01-01T10:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

thumbnail. Hafspajen (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z-Odd.","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T22:41:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z","c-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T23:05:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

You can't beat a good German muff, I always say. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T22:41:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

MARRTY!!!! Tghat woman gave me a schock. Don't do that again, please. Hafspajen (talk) 23:05, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T23:05:00.000Z","author":"Hafspajen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T23:05:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T23:15:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T23:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why settle for Dykes on Bikes when you can have 4 poofs and a piano?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T23:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-01T23:15:00.000Z-Hafspajen-2016-01-01T23:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy New Year!

Hello Martinevans123: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. North America1000 09:29, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-02T09:29:00.000Z","author":"Northamerica1000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Northamerica1000-2016-01-02T09:29:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-02T14:26:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2016-01-02T09:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"North America"}}-->

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Many thanks! Help yourself to a slice of bread tree and some traditional Yuletide preserve. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-02T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-02T14:26:00.000Z-Northamerica1000-2016-01-02T09:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

My New Year's day gift to Martin123

This user is a participant in the Serial Killer task force.

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-02T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-02T10:55:00.000Z-My_New_Year's_day_gift","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-02T14:21:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-02T10:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

How exciting, and vaguely threatening. What an intriguing work group.... do you get to dress up like Kurt Wallander? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-02T14:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-02T14:21:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-02T10:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Three years ago ...

In Your Own Sweet Way
... you were recipient no. 354 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T09:04:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-01-03T09:04:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T10:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-01-03T09:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks Gerda. Wow, three years already?? I've ordered some photos of this big event and hopefully some day my prints will come: [6] Martinevans123 (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T10:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T10:42:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-01-03T09:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-03T11:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T10:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Especially for both of you [7]. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:03, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T11:03:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-03T11:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T10:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T13:49:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-03T11:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, Gareth, a wonderful version. The true classic line-up there. Long been a favourite. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T13:49:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-03T11:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T13:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Congratulations on your rarer naive pussy icon. Brave Son 123 (talk) 14:33, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T13:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T14:42:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Brave Son 123"}}-->

Please tell me you used a computer to come up with that. That there might be human minds capable of devising something like that is too awful to contemplate. EEng (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC) Even worse if it was a non-human mind.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T16:22:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Even worse - a combination of computer and human mind linked by a neural lace... Robevans123 (talk) 16:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T16:22:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"A Purveyance Rosin Sir"?? Nirvana Stem 123 (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T14:42:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-03T14:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T14:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nirvana Stem 123"}}-->

Ditto. EEng (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-EEng-2016-01-03T15:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T14:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Am saying nothing. Satan Vermin 321 (talk) 16:27, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T16:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T16:27:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T17:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T16:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Satan Vermin 321"}}-->

Very wise. 321 Bona Revs (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-03T17:19:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-03T17:19:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-03T16:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"321 Bona Revs"}}-->

Quite. Doctor Tom Tonic ....Woman Hitler? (6-2-3)

Not encyclopaedic? Are you aware of what the Greek words that are the source of the word mean? en kuklos paideuein , to educate in the round, something like that. Eliot has been consulted by the investigators, but not good enough for 'martin evans123'. ugh. ugh ugh. little things please little minds, enjoy your revert power 'martinevans123'.92.3.17.204 (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-04T00:05:00.000Z","author":"92.3.17.204","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.3.17.204-2016-01-04T00:05:00.000Z-Bellingcat","replies":["c-EEng-2016-01-04T02:25:00.000Z-92.3.17.204-2016-01-04T00:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

And cats have round bellies, and bells are round, so it's logical. EEng (talk) 02:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-04T02:25:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2016-01-04T02:25:00.000Z-92.3.17.204-2016-01-04T00:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-92.3.14.113-2016-01-04T12:05:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-04T02:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

what?92.3.14.113 (talk) 12:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-04T12:05:00.000Z","author":"92.3.14.113","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-92.3.14.113-2016-01-04T12:05:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-04T02:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-04T12:13:00.000Z-92.3.14.113-2016-01-04T12:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

"ugh. ugh ugh". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 4 January 2016 (UTC) ... and thanks so much for the "educate in the round" edit summary. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-04T12:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-04T12:13:00.000Z-92.3.14.113-2016-01-04T12:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

bellingcat guardian report

I reverted your edit here. The link you added was this. It doesn't work. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-04T13:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-04T13:03:00.000Z-not_encyclopaedic?_the_wikipedia_is_meant_to_spread_information,_no?","replies":[]}}-->

Women in Music
	10 to 31 January 2016 Please join us in the worldwide virtual edit-a-thon hosted by Women in Red.

--Ipigott (talk) 16:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-05T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Ipigott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ipigott-2016-01-05T16:23:00.000Z-Invitation_to_a_virtual_editathon_on_Women_in_Music","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-05T19:30:00.000Z-Ipigott-2016-01-05T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you for your very kind invitation. I trust this doesn't involve Chris de Burgh. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:30, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-05T19:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-05T19:30:00.000Z-Ipigott-2016-01-05T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy New Year, Martin. I see that standards are slipping: at least one British bookseller is clearly not familiar with the works of either H. Rider Haggard or John Mortimer or he’d know all about She who must be obeyed! JezGrove (talk) 23:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z-Hong_Kong_phooey","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T08:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2016-01-06T09:28:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Groan" ... But great to see you are already thinking about my prize for the worse pun of 2016! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:49, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T08:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T08:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Yes, by all means Gung Hay Fat Choy! Although frankly we are overhitting the mark by 34 days. Softlavender (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T09:28:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2016-01-06T09:28:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T12:15:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-01-06T09:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see that according to WP, "Punning has been credited as the fundamental concept behind alphabets, writing, and even human civilization"! (Just as well I wasn’t there with my terrible ones back in the day, then….) WP also claims that "Chinese is a tonal language with a comparatively small inventory of permitted syllables, resulting in an exceptionally large number of homophone words", so it's a shame that the noble pun is shunned in China – and they certainly take their aversion to extremes! JezGrove (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T12:15:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T12:15:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-01-06T09:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T12:26:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T12:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not as disturbing as neon tetra-phobia, of course. Get those Fins away from me!! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T12:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T12:26:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T12:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-06T13:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T12:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

And I'd watch out for the mythical French-Croatian Squid n'all. --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 13:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T13:20:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-06T13:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T12:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:25:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-06T13:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

One of Heston's specialities, allegedly. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T13:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:25:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-06T13:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"Sheesh!" Martinevans123 (talk) 13:31, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T13:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's just totally freaky! Loved the mythical creatures - and the fact that the Chinese government censored the word 'censorship'. JezGrove (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T16:40:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T13:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:47:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I guess they have a giant "RevDel machine" hidden somewhere in Beijing? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:47:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, just lots of interns using nets to catch the river crabs. (Don't you wish I hadn't just said that...) JezGrove (talk) 16:52, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T16:52:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Blimey! We're trending! JezGrove (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T16:57:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, now those crabs aren't Heston's, are they. I think they're Hugh's - he's far more trendy. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T16:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T17:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Beware of eating anything that looks TOO good, though! JezGrove (talk) 17:14, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T17:14:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-06T17:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T18:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T17:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, my favourite ... Ken's mashed potato and tampon dim sum (old friend). Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T18:53:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-06T17:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-01-06T19:15:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T18:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Weigh two mutch deetale in that video. Lying runny soup [sic]. Robevans123 (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-06T19:15:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-06T19:15:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-06T18:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[8]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-08T22:56:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T22:56:00.000Z-Lost_in_translation?","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T22:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Appalling – let’s hope Google has more success translating morally bankrupt! JezGrove (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-08T23:08:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T22:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:16:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha. Yes, nice one. I heard that on the radio and I must admit I laughed out loud. Almost worth the effort at DYK. Perhaps the Treasurer sent £15 joining Labour. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:16, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-08T23:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:16:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Very good! And cracker jokes could be the right level for my puerile sense of humour - I wonder when the deadline is for the 2016 batch? JezGrove (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-08T23:29:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, quite. "What do Wikileaks staff have with their Christmas turkey? An anonymous sauce." Martinevans123 (talk) 23:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-08T23:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-08T23:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-08T23:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there. Let us known when you're done on this. I've got a couple of sources to clear up the "citations needed". Reminds me to get on with Llanfrechfa - really should have an article. Diolch. Robevans123 (talk) 15:29, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-09T15:29:00.000Z-Twmbarlwm","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T15:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-09T15:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm done. There you go. Lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:31, 9 January 2016 (UTC) ... yes, we have an article for Llanfrechfa Grange Hospital, but for the village. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:33, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T15:31:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T15:31:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-09T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-01-09T16:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T15:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cheers. Ended up listening to an interesting programme on Radio 4 - From Mumbai to Machynlleth. I started a draft about the church a while ago. Must go and finish it off. Must also do an article on the parish as well as the village... Robevans123 (talk) 16:09, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T16:09:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-01-09T16:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T15:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T22:43:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-09T16:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

I listened. How amazing. I see that Tauseef Akhtar appears at Mere Baap Pehle Aap and at Tum Se Achcha Kaun Hai. This guy has performed at Monmouth. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T22:43:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-01-09T16:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

To Sam, Here In Towne Tavern:

A Winner Motto Tars Even He! Neonates Vow, Threaten Mr. I! Hart Tires Eman, One Vet Won. Signed, Team Won That Elk!vitrify 20:08, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Eman235","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eman235-2016-01-09T20:08:00.000Z-Anagrams","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T20:23:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-01-09T20:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Team Won That Elk"}}-->

Thank you, I shall treasure these. If only I knew what you meant. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T20:23:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T20:23:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-01-09T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T20:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

How strange! My personal favourite actual anagram is 'A man, a plan, a canal - Panama' for what it's worth (very little, as it happens...) JezGrove (talk) 20:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:13:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T20:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, no. no! You're talking about Palling-drones. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Eman235-2016-01-13T20:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

An anagram of "a man, a plan, a canal - Panama" is "Pal, Mañana, A Manna Alpaca!" Unfortunately I'm not clever enough to make an anagram that's also a palindrome. Eman235/talk 20:29, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Eman235","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Eman235-2016-01-13T20:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:35:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-01-13T20:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Dur! I'll never live that one down - my apologies for wasting your eyeball power reading my ludicrous comment. Studios imp! JezGrove (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:35:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:35:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-01-13T20:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:38:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry, we love our "mailed porn" here. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC) ....whatever next, Flowery Twats? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:38:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's good to know - but try not to end up with a "damper loin". JezGrove (talk) 21:40, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T21:40:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T21:46:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Or a "pale nimrod", or a "mean old rip", or even an "ample rod in", etc. etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T21:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T21:46:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T21:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ha ha! Wallaby Fits, the proud proprietor of Flowery Twats, sends his regards. JezGrove (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T21:58:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-13T21:58:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T21:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You might want to take a look at WP:ITN/C . Mjroots (talk) 21:58, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T21:58:00.000Z","author":"Mjroots","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mjroots-2016-01-09T21:58:00.000Z-Stewpot","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T22:03:00.000Z-Mjroots-2016-01-09T21:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. But, as you will see, I have felt unable to contribute there since last September, for some reason. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-09T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-09T22:03:00.000Z-Mjroots-2016-01-09T21:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Like when I wrote "When Rudy was through talking to Crystal, he walked into the nearby elephant." The word I meant to write was elevator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-10T19:39:00.000Z","author":"WilliamJE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WilliamJE-2016-01-10T19:39:00.000Z-Editing_a_novel_for_me_can_be_a_hilarious_experience","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-10T20:07:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2016-01-10T19:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"...William"}}-->

Haha. First version works for me too! "Never use a big word when a little filthy one will do." ― Johnny Carson. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:07, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-10T20:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-10T20:07:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2016-01-10T19:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martinevans123. I thought it would be more appropriate to reply to your question "privately" rather than extend the discussion at AN/I.

When I nominated Malcolm X for FA, I was surprised when another editor expressed copyright concerns about File:Shabazz Gravesite.jpg, an image I had uploaded to Commons. See WP:Featured article candidates/Malcolm X, about two-thirds of the way down the page (under the heading "Significant image concerns") -- concerns I addressed by removing the image from the article.

The issue is whether the gravestone is just text or whether it's a "work of art" that incorporates creativity, so whether there is a copyright issue depends on the specific gravestone (as well as its age, of course). — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:32, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-10T23:32:00.000Z","author":"MShabazz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MShabazz-2016-01-10T23:32:00.000Z-Copyright_in_gravestones","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-11T08:59:00.000Z-MShabazz-2016-01-10T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks, MShabazz for taking the time to drop a note here. Yes, a very sensible choice. I hope 7&6=thirteen will see it. It all sounds quite complicated and dependant on a qualitative judgement on what constitutes a "work of art". Martinevans123 (talk) 08:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-11T08:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-11T08:59:00.000Z-MShabazz-2016-01-10T23:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

An article that you have been involved in editing—James Last —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Maestroso simplo (talk) 22:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-11T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Maestroso simplo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maestroso_simplo-2016-01-11T22:59:00.000Z-Merger_discussion_for_James_Last","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-11T23:07:00.000Z-Maestroso_simplo-2016-01-11T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah nice one, Hansi. Had forgotten about this. It's lovely. Thanks for reminding me. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:07, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-11T23:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-11T23:07:00.000Z-Maestroso_simplo-2016-01-11T22:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just a note to thank you for your work on this article, which deserves some good effort. I like your additions, which complement my own. Cheers, Easchiff (talk) 02:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-12T02:10:00.000Z","author":"Easchiff","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Easchiff-2016-01-12T02:10:00.000Z-The_Enigma_of_Kaspar_Hauser","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-12T09:00:00.000Z-Easchiff-2016-01-12T02:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks. You're very welcome! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-12T09:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-12T09:00:00.000Z-Easchiff-2016-01-12T02:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

for weighing in at Money (That's What I Want). Feel free to undo the last edit and add my comments about the British Invasion versions back, I have been warned that I will be blocked if I do it, though the admin who issued the warning seems to have backed off, agreeing that my edit is okay. However the chap that I had the initial disagreement with does not seem to be under the same constraint. Oh yes, I was slow getting here because I was waylaid by the quiz on your user page. it seemed to cover rather well everything that is going on at this article. And so it goes. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carptrash-2016-01-13T20:03:00.000Z-thank_you","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:08:00.000Z-Carptrash-2016-01-13T20:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Einar. I think what you put is quite right. But it might be over-ruled by WP:SONGCOVER, which is quite clear, isn't it? But no point editing until some kind of consensus has been agreed at the Talk Page there. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:08, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-13T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-13T20:08:00.000Z-Carptrash-2016-01-13T20:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

And there I was thinking Wet Wet Wet were Scottish… JezGrove (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T20:10:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:10:00.000Z-The_Sun_Ain't_Gonna_Shine_(Anymore)","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:13:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Crazy name, crazy place!!! Rain Man Vest 123 (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T20:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:13:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Rain Man Vest 123"}}-->

Norman? Cardigan? I feel a 70s sitcom coming on! JezGrove (talk) 20:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T20:39:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mr Davies said: "We are hardy bunch here in Eglwyswrw, and it takes more than a few showers to grind us down, but it has been, all jokes aside, quite grinding." Avian Nets Mr 123 (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Avian Nets Mr 123"}}-->

At least the humour is dry. JezGrove (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T20:49:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T21:39:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

As if West Wales is full of pitifully gormless Welsh stereotypes. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T21:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T21:39:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T20:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T21:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Of course, if you are going to get inundated, there are better ways of doing it. JezGrove (talk) 23:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T23:17:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T21:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, much better than a treacle sponge pudding disaster. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:32, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yikes! Talk about coming to a sticky end! JezGrove (talk) 23:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T23:39:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, could have been worse. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T23:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-15T23:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Brilliant! Though a flood of Donald Trump jam would be worse!

Looks kinda familiar. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:54, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T23:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-15T23:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Martin, Many thanks for all your help regarding vandalism on my Talk page. Due to a few problems at home, I do not have all the time I would like on Wikipedia and your intervention is much appreciated. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:29:00.000Z","author":"David J Johnson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:29:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson:_Talk_page","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:37:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just mindless trolling. No worries. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC) p.s. I was wondering if, like me, you have ever visited Malta? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:37:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree, it is just mindless trolling - although I think it should be stopped very soon. In answer to your question: no, have never visited DLR, Malta. Best David, David J Johnson (talk) 22:40, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:40:00.000Z","author":"David J Johnson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:42:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Malta is quite an interesting, if rather crowded, place. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:42:00.000Z-David_J_Johnson-2016-01-19T22:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

User talk:89.240.135.116 has cleared your warning off of the IP talk page. Just a heads up. Krj373 (talk) 22:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z","author":"Krj373","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z-IP_User","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:35:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z","c-John-2016-01-19T23:44:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. That's about the most intelligent thing it's done yet. But still trolling of course. An indef block is not far away. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:35:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Anytime I see a IP talk page blanked. I take a look & never revert. I leave that up to who ever issued the warnings. I do like that people believe that making the warnings disappear helps their case. Krj373 (talk) 22:56, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T22:56:00.000Z","author":"Krj373","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:56:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T22:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T23:09:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not sure I like it. But it is rather amusing. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T23:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-19T23:09:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Blocked 31 hours. --John (talk) 23:44, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-19T23:44:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-John-2016-01-19T23:44:00.000Z-Krj373-2016-01-19T22:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Come with me BracketBot, to my creepy underground doll's house bunker.... and then maybe you won't be so picky about errant unpaired brackets, you snivelling little gripe-monster. Man Rat Vines 123 (talk) 23:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-20T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-20T23:32:00.000Z-BracketBot-2016-01-20T23:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-01-21T17:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-20T23:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Man Rat Vines 123"}}-->

Quite frankly, BracketBot is so well known^{[dubious – discuss]} these days for their salacious behaviour, it's a wonder Operation Yewtree hasn't got hold of them. Meanwhile, the passing of Lemmy and Alan Rickman means that my fantasy Hawkwind line-up (you can just imagine Rickman reading the poetry extracts in Space Ritual can't you?) is never going to happen. Mind you, I picked Keith Moon on drums for that. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-21T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-01-21T17:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-20T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-21T17:22:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-01-21T17:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, indeed. Moony or possibly the Wild Man of Borneo on bongos? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC) ... and talking of Operation Yewtree, why not get some under-age boys in and ask Vladimir Putin to film it all?? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-21T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-21T17:22:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-01-21T17:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-22T21:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-21T17:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

If he lived in York, perhaps Val would need to give the local constabulary the expected period of notice?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:06, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-22T21:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-22T21:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-21T17:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

We need an updated Intro & Outro that youngsters would be familiar with. Keeping with the original themes, we could have Richard Griffiths on guitar, the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain on triangle, Katie Hopkins on vibes, Bill Oddie on duck call, Joe Satriani on tin whistle, what a team, Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson on percussion, Saddam Hussein on weapons of mass destruction, and a big thanks from all of us here, Trevor McDonald on bongs. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-24T12:40:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-01-24T12:40:00.000Z-January_2016","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T14:22:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-01-24T12:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, brilliant. I'm sure Billy would want to see Father Jackum on "Manchester xylophone" (... or maybe the Nottingham version?) Martinevans123 (talk) 14:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-24T14:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T14:22:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-01-24T12:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-24T19:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T14:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Natch. Perhaps we could have Brian May on the Badgermin, and hopefully Eric Barbour will lend us some of his bespoke audio equipment. --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 19:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC) Oi, Threesy! I do believe you owe me some royalties on that puffer joke! [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-24T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-24T19:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T14:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T21:22:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-24T19:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey, we all thought Threesie was the real Puff Daddy!! Mantra Nevis 123 (talk) 21:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-24T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-24T21:22:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-01-24T19:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Mantra Nevis 123"}}-->

[9] EEng 18:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T18:37:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2016-01-25T18:37:00.000Z-I_feel_a_DYK_coming_on","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T18:41:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-25T18:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

How very baffling. Not even a hint of any rectal dilation. But, I quite agree "Cannibalism coming to Harvard" does have a certain ring to it... Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T18:41:00.000Z-EEng-2016-01-25T18:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Nearly forgot to send you a cerdyn. BTW, I see our friend the Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den bit off more than he could chew… allegedly. JezGrove (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:11:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:11:00.000Z-Don't_take_this_the_wrong_way....!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh yes, looks like he did. The lion looks a bit stunned too, doesn't he. (Ah bless you, Jezza-me-ol'-china, I would have sent you one of those trendy Welsh bendy love spoons. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

You've lost me with the bendy spoons I'm afraid - btw, I think Bracketbot might be sending you less welcome greetings soon, if I'm not mistaken! JezGrove (talk) 22:29, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:29:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was thinking about celebrating by driving to Llanelli!! But you need to know about this ancient Welsh/Israeli craft. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Those Llanelli multistorey car parks are so romantic...! I remember Geller bending spoons and stopping watches, I just don't get the Welsh connection...! JezGrove (talk) 22:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:49:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ahem.... alas the connection is only in my rather addled mind. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 25 January 2016 (UTC) .... ... sorry, I was thinking of Uri Gellert.... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T22:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T23:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was slow on the uptake there - I should have asked Lyn (Llyn?) - she spent quite a few years in North Wales (getting a music degree and qualifying as a climbing instructor - apparently 'portfolio' careers aren't so new after all...) JezGrove (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T23:11:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-25T23:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T22:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T23:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T23:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Phew. She sounds like a bit of a dragon! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:21, 25 January 2016 (UTC) I had a portfolio once but I just lost track of it. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-25T23:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-25T23:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-25T23:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

One can dream ... [10] ... great song, but she has those typical American teeth that I find a bit off-putting. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T15:41:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T15:41:00.000Z-One_can_dream_...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T15:52:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T15:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought that was only an issue "South of the Border"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC) ... but quite happy to battle it out with Brittney....[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T15:52:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T15:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T16:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T15:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ha, ha, ha! I LOL — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T16:17:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T16:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T16:39:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T16:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yikes! We'll have none of your laughing stray moggies turning up here, if you don't mind! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T16:39:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-26T16:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have added to all of their Wikipedia pages to give a more detailed description of their places of birth only to have them taken down by you. I have given reasons for the edit which you seem to have ignored please tell me why? Hackinghobb (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Hackinghobb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hackinghobb-2016-01-26T23:32:00.000Z-members_of_the_Beatles","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T23:47:00.000Z-Hackinghobb-2016-01-26T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's not just me. It's plenty of other editors. As I have reminded you on your Talk Page, you were warned about this exactly one month ago following the Administrators noticeboard discussion here. You chose to make no input whatsoever to that discussion. The reason why your edits have been reversed is very simple - you have no consensus to make them and all the reverting editors think they are unnecessary. If you make another similar edit I have no doubt at all that you will be blocked. Is that now totally 100% clear? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2016 (UTC) p.s. if you wish to continue this discussion please do so at your own Talk Page, where I left you the reminder. Thanks. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-26T23:47:00.000Z-Hackinghobb-2016-01-26T23:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A small WP:TROUT for Talk:Cliff_Richard#Someone_please_correct_the_opening - if you want to tell another editor why they're behaving inappropriately, do it on their talk page, don't force the rest of us to sit through the back-and-forth. --McGeddon (talk) 10:18, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T10:18:00.000Z","author":"McGeddon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McGeddon-2016-01-28T10:18:00.000Z-Cliff_Richard_talk_page","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T10:35:00.000Z-McGeddon-2016-01-28T10:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I realize it’s nothing to do with content. Feel free to collapse. I did consider that and thought it might be seen as “inflammatory”. I’d rather not venture there just at the moment, I’m afraid. But many thanks for the fish. I shall treasure it always. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:35, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T10:35:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T10:35:00.000Z-McGeddon-2016-01-28T10:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T11:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T10:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think I may be taking a holiday from that article for a while. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T11:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T11:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T10:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I hope you don't mind the further revision I made to your Canada edit today. I was trying to make it more objective (after I thought about it more, as the other guy said), more accurate with the periods, but also less specific with the hits because it is the article summary. Regardless of all this, the Canada topic probably should have been addressed more specifically in the article body itself (by whoever originally added it) before it was even added to the summary. Shortage of time for me is an issue at the moment though. Regards, AusChartMan (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T17:44:00.000Z","author":"AusChartMan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AusChartMan-2016-01-28T17:44:00.000Z-Cliff_Richard_page","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T19:47:00.000Z-AusChartMan-2016-01-28T17:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi AusChartMan, many thanks for your considerate note. I think your edits are a big improvement, although as you say, the intro section should only ever summarise the article. I'm also unsure that such comparatively moderate success belongs in the intro. As you may have guessed, however, the article is no longer on my watchlist. I wish you the best of luck editing there. I'm busy enjoying a little fish with lemon. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:47, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T19:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T19:47:00.000Z-AusChartMan-2016-01-28T17:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The 'Bonnie Brae' is oblong, smooth, thin-skinned, and seedless — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:44, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T10:44:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-28T10:44:00.000Z-For_your_trout","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T19:57:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-28T10:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, thin-skinned sounds a bit familiar. Thanks for your culinary expertise. Looks very tasty. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T19:57:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-01-28T10:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, it appears that there is a growing number of Flat-Earthers - most of them the citizens of one particular country, of course. No wonder Trump is doing so well! (But then such stupidity goes back to the country's origins: after all these are the people who despite declaring that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" then elected a slave-owner as their first President….) JezGrove (talk) 12:32, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T12:32:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-28T12:32:00.000Z-Maybe_they\u2019ll_\u2018Go_West!\u2019_until_they_fall_off_the_edge,_if_we\u2019re_lucky!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T13:33:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-28T12:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

How strange. Everyone knows that America's future is in the stars. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC) ... well, yeah, maybe we gotta deal with a flat earth, but at least we ain't got no flat hair... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T13:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T13:33:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-28T12:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-01-28T13:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T13:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now that's something that really IS unbelievable! JezGrove (talk) 13:45, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T13:45:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-01-28T13:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T13:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T20:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-28T13:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

The startling secret is revealed. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-28T20:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-28T20:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-01-28T13:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, please forgive my ignorance of the correct procedures/rules etc when it comes to resolving a dispute or disagreement on Wikipedia. As you know, I have included the 'Former denomination - Roman Catholic' information in a number of Wiki entries in the sincere belief that it is highly likely to be relevant, useful, interesting and informative to many readers, providing valuable context, perspective and clarity on the history of many important religious buildings. I should also add that, as an atheist, I have no interest whatsoever in elevating or promoting the role of the Roman Catholic church, historical or otherwise, within the pages of Wikipedia. Clearly, however, the inclusion of the 'previous denomination' has 'ruffled a few feathers' but that in itself does not sufficientIy persuade me that this information is 'superfluous' or in any other way lacking in merit for inclusion. Please advise as I would really appreciate your insights and expertise in helping to resolve this matter. I am more than happy for this to go through any kind of wider-community dispute resolution process so it can be settled once and for all. I feel that the editors who have reverted my edits (as well as myself) really need some final clarification on this issue. Many thanks. (Woodseats44 (talk) 13:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T13:05:00.000Z","author":"Woodseats44","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Woodseats44-2016-01-29T13:05:00.000Z-Please_advise_on_best_course_of_action_RE_'Former_Denomination_-_Roman_Catholic\"","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T13:26:00.000Z-Woodseats44-2016-01-29T13:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

As this is such a high level topic, I'd suggest that Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity might be a good place to ask for advice on the best discussion venue. But what was the "Roman Catholic" church called, in Britain, before Henry VIII? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:26, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T13:26:00.000Z-Woodseats44-2016-01-29T13:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T15:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T13:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Seems you will not be replying to me, or to anyone else, for the foreseeable future. But please feel free to email me your answer. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T15:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T13:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T15:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Martin - long time, no see. Really sorry that you've been dragged into this nonsense, although I think, from reviewing the Lincoln Cathedral pages, you've encountered this chap before. Personal stuff has distracted me from Wikipedia for quite a while but I hope you are well and still enjoying it. KJP1 (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T19:04:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T15:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:09:00.000Z-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hello KJP!! Great to see you around, I am very well and "enjoying" most of my editing (although I'm not sure everyone else is, haha). I had no idea (i.e. forgotten) that I had ever seen this two-litres-of-whisky character before. He's very eloquent, for a vandal, isn't he. But he's left a small trail of POV in his wake and I was asking at AN/I how best to revert it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:09:00.000Z-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Eloquent, but still a complete t@sser! Sorry, very inappropriate personal comment. KJP1 (talk) 19:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T19:12:00.000Z","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:20:00.000Z-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

You know what they say, "There's nowt so queer as tikes". Sorry, very inappropriate sexist regionalist comment. Inane Mars Tv 123 (talk) 19:20, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-29T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-29T19:20:00.000Z-KJP1-2016-01-29T19:12:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Inane Mars Tv 123"}}-->

Hi girls, sorry to interrupt your frankly embarrassing 'love-in' but I think you will find that (Woodseats44 was not engaging in 'vandalism' as you put it but was, as you will no doubt eventually see for yourselves, actually trying to address a glaring historical oversight in reference to Wikipedia's information on churches built in Pre-Reformation Britain. By systematically reverting all of the edits made by (Woodseats44 and then trying to silence them for all time by applying a permanent block, you have simply served to reveal yourselves as people who happily support and collude with each other in abusing their editorial privileges, censoring key facts whenever they conflict with their own agenda. One is led to believe that editors on Wikipedia are as impartial in their judgment as possible but this is self-evidently not true for all of them. Rest assured, this is by no means the end of the matter. (Oh and the casual use of homophobic statements and thinly-disguised insults like 't@sser' does nothing for your credibility either.) I personally think Wikipedia is a fantastic project but, as this whole episode seems to indicate, it is, one fears, in great danger of being hijacked by a bunch of hysterical, self-aggrandising, self-important social inadequates with nothing better to do all day than misuse their pathetic 'power' in between j@cking off to Cliff Richard videos. Truly heartbreaking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.120.89.44 (talk) 12:01, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-30T12:01:00.000Z","author":"2.120.89.44","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2.120.89.44-2016-01-30T12:01:00.000Z-Please_advise_on_best_course_of_action_RE_'Former_Denomination_-_Roman_Catholic\"","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-01-30T17:32:00.000Z-2.120.89.44-2016-01-30T12:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi anon-Sky-ip-from-Rotherham. Yes, we're all heartbroken here. But if you see Woody, please give him my love. I wonder could he answer the question I posed above (if he has a moment)? I expect we may see yet another of his devilishly clever re-incarnations before very long, as I think he has, as you put it, "an agenda". A real "Cliff-hanger" this one. Self-important social inadequate 123 (talk) 17:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-30T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-01-30T17:32:00.000Z-2.120.89.44-2016-01-30T12:01:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Self-important social inadequate 123"}}-->

On 31 January 2016, In the news was updated with a recent sad death – Terry Wogan. Thanks for your efforts in making this article presentable. Andrew D. (talk) 07:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-01T07:24:00.000Z","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-01T07:24:00.000Z-Banjaxed","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-01T07:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andrew D."}}-->

How lovely. Thank you so much! I'll see you at the "Wealdstone Tan and Touch-up Emporium"! Melanie Frontage 123 (talk) 13:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-01T13:28:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-01T07:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T13:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Melanie Frontage 123"}}-->

Say Martin, I've had a go at writing User:Ritchie333/Chuffer Dandridge, but I'm not sure I can get the required 1,500 characters for DYK, can you help? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:21, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-01T17:21:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T13:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T18:27:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

So many words do we actually need adding?? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-01T18:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T18:27:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-01T17:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T18:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

The DYKcheck tool indicates that it has about 1000 of the required 1500 characters – another 50% required. Ritchie seems to have found all the low-hanging fruit but I'll keep my eyes open. Myself, I have created a couple of spinoff stubs: Hanwell Band and Leverett & Frye. They would be an even bigger struggle to get to DYK level so I'm content to leave them as buds on our tree of knowledge. Note that what's interesting about Chuffer Dandridge and the other TOG stuff is the extent to which Wogan's material was crowd-sourced. Just like Wikipedia... Andrew D. (talk) 12:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-01T18:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T12:27:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z","c-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Andrew D."}}-->

Ah, how how lovely. But this was before strict BBC compliance, wasn't it. So, just like Wikipedia, there were probably just a few regular staff with multiple sock-puppet email accounts, haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:27, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T12:27:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't think a source is available (but one might well have turned up in the last few days following Wogan's death), but an explanation of why Dandrige was created and what were Byrne and Slane's ideas would probably get us there. Or just quoting one of Chuffer's whimsical nostalgic looks at prewar music hall. We've also got this that confirms Wogan corpsed at Chuffer's ramblings, but I can't believe we can't do better than the Daily Mirror :-( Some might argue that Chuffer isn't actually notable, but the tipping point for me is that his writing was read out to about 8 million people a day for ten years, and Wogan obituaries at least name-drop him, so I think it can stick. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T12:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T15:07:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T15:10:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

It passes DYKcheck now Andrew D. (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T15:07:00.000Z","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-2016-02-02T15:07:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew D."}}-->

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Article created by Jonfun on May 19, 2007

Article moved from User:Ritchie333/Chuffer Dandridge on February 2, 2016

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Thanks so much. All my effort now seems worthwhile. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T15:10:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T12:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

As I have opined at Template:Did you know nominations/Chuffer Dandridge, I feel this is an appropriate tribute to run at whenever Wogan's funeral is; I'm sure he would have wanted us to remember him corpsing at Chuffer talking about his old chum Gants Hill or enthusing about the new musical genre of Vicar & Sidecar. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T15:56:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T15:56:00.000Z-Banjaxed","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T16:16:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T15:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Obviously all credit should go to Ricky "Touch" Tingles 333. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T16:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T16:16:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T15:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T16:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T16:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think moral support from Mick Sturbs 123 and Horatio Q Birdbath Davidson should be acknowledged. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-02T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T16:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-02T16:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-08T22:30:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T16:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Also support keeping memory: a work of the conductor who died will make it with Ilse Gramatzki in the next set, please watch (pictured my talk). Teh points: should there be a penalty for opposing without a contribution to the article? Isn't it interesting that the term "principal editors" didn't yet come up in the project discussion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-08T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-08T22:30:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-02T16:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Good to see my old mucker "Bunny" has selected my namesake for the Ireland game on Sunday. I stupidly arranged to be elsewhere before I'd checked this year's 6 Nations fixture list. Robevans123 (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z-Wales_v_Ireland","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","c-EEng-2016-02-03T17:30:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","c-Robevans123-2016-02-03T18:52:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, a shame the Mighty Geth is out. But poor Ireland are riven by injury it seems. Lets hope we some some bigger kicks Martinevans123 (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC) ... surely even Hitchin can get ITV?? [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Can someone please explain why we've got a Martinevans123 and a Robevans123? One's more than enough. EEng 17:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T17:30:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2016-02-03T17:30:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}-->

We are not just a number, we are a name, and although we may both be favoured by Jehovah, one is warlike and from Mars and the other is from Venus famed, bright, and shining. Robevans123 (talk) 18:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-03T18:52:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T16:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T19:02:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T18:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good job for EEng that I don't also use my middle name! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC) ... Rob just doesn't want to admit he's actually No. 6... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T19:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T19:02:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T18:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T19:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

As usual, in retrospect I don't know why I bothered asking. EEng 22:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T19:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T22:46:00.000Z-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z","c-Robevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Yes, propbably best to just let sleeping Welsh dogs lie: [11]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T22:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-03T22:46:00.000Z-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

We aim to please... Robevans123 (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z-EEng-2016-02-03T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, you certainly turned that around, Rob. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T10:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-03T23:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T16:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh Sergio! Why did you miss?! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-06T16:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T16:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Umm... that was not actually the common capitalisation, or even anything like the common spelling. It will likely soon be reverted to its previous title. Also note conventions such as WP:NCCAPS to assist with deciding upper/lowercase wordings. Dl2000 (talk) 04:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Dl2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dl2000-2016-02-05T04:53:00.000Z-Someone_lLke_You_(Van_Morrison_song)_?!?!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T08:39:00.000Z-Dl2000-2016-02-05T04:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

I trust you'll correct the rest of the article to match, and then, like me, you'll see how odd it looks. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:39, 5 February 2016 (UTC) [12]?!?![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T08:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T08:39:00.000Z-Dl2000-2016-02-05T04:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-05T09:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T08:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not sure if this helps?! JezGrove (talk) 09:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T09:17:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-05T09:17:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T08:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-05T09:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

You'd think that would be pretty conclusive, wouldn't you? Of course, we can't use the styling as used on the single cover, as it's all lower case. But, yet again, this seems to be a case of the prescriptive title rules of Wiki-land flying in the face of normal usage in the real world. Yes, I know "like" is an adjective here, but to my eye this looks Like a mistake. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T10:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-05T09:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-05T10:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

New Hart's Rules says: "Exactly which words should be capitalized in a particular title is a matter for individual judgement, which may take account of the sense, emphasis, structure, and length of the title. Thus a short title may look best with capitals on words that might be left lower case in a longer title." (2005 edn, page 133) Personally, I agree with you that the capitalized version looks better here - though I see there are many other WP pages also using the weird-looking lower case 'like'.JezGrove (talk) 10:29, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T10:29:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-05T10:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:43:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-05T10:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

"what's not to Like"? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T10:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-05T10:43:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-05T10:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There is a discussion at Talk:Someone like You (Van Morrison song), where Dl2000 presents the argument for why it should not change to something more normal. Martinevans123 (talk)

Way to go!!! Sing it Eric!! Groovetastic. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:10, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-06T11:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T11:10:00.000Z-101_Slow_Jam","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-02-06T11:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T11:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Slightly less awkward? I don't think so, but what's not to leki? Robevans123 (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-06T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-06T11:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T11:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T11:26:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-06T11:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, I think it's beautiful. I'd pay top dollar, dammit, for an album of R&B classics by this hep cat. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-06T11:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-06T11:26:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-06T11:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Now who's feeling moody and blue...JezGrove (talk) 22:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-08T22:10:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-08T22:10:00.000Z-BracketBot-2016-02-08T21:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Lol. Hmm, isn't Wikipedia strange.....?

ok, ok, bot-baby, no need to get your knickers in such a twist!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:13, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-08T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-08T22:13:00.000Z-BracketBot-2016-02-08T21:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-08T23:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-08T22:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Thank goodness for that. I realise that Channel 4 News is not everyone’s idea of "a better place". Martinevans123 (talk) 16:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-09T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-09T16:03:00.000Z-Bodney-2016-02-09T15:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for telling me. Looks like a rash outbreak of commonsense, at last. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:17, 12 February 2016 (UTC) ... I wouldn't dream of putting anything useful on this Talk Page.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-12T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-12T17:17:00.000Z-LlywelynII-2016-02-12T17:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-15T10:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-12T17:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your efforts over at the policy discussion, Martin. I took a look the other day and thought we were heading towards a sensible outcome (silly me). Given that WP seems to be able to accommodate the erratic capitalization insisted on by e.g. CinemaScope and K.d. lang (although admittedly the latter page name itself starts with a capital 'K', the page title and body text use her preferred lower case one) surely it shouldn’t be t-o-o controversial to accept a policy that WP matches the capitalization in titles of works used by the original publisher on title pages or liner notes etc? Do you think that there’s a case for arguing that adopting such a policy for capitalization would in fact bring it into better alignment with the policy on spellings of titles of works, where artists’ preferred unconventional spellings such as Nothing Compares 2 U or Cum On Feel the Noize seem to be accommodated (also, presumably, on the basis of the publishers’ versions)? JezGrove (talk) 10:31, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-15T10:31:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-15T10:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-12T17:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-15T12:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-15T10:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Far too sensible, I'm afraid. What's on the liner notes obviously falls into the "who puked up on the tour bus" category of meaningless factoids. Why bother having silly arbitrary rules unless we all follow them slavishly forever. This is a worthy and grown-up encyclopedia not the gutter press, you know!!! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:21, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-15T12:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-15T12:21:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-15T10:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, do you reckon he tried the "I saw what my big brother was doing to vulnerable people so I thought it was OK" excuse? JezGrove (talk) 13:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-14T13:17:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-14T13:17:00.000Z-He_was_set_a_bad_example","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T13:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-14T13:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks like she just didn't want to say goodbye. But yes, a lovely story for Valentine's Day. But at least Adam hasn't yet tried standup. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-14T13:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T13:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-14T13:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-14T14:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T13:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Very good! Shame that my favourite Osborne joke didn't make the cut... JezGrove (talk) 14:21, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-14T14:21:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-14T14:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T13:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T14:36:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-14T14:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

What's next, a Patsy tax?? [13]. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-14T14:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-14T14:36:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-14T14:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

As per this. But then you should come around here. My kids dont like the video.... Murry1975 (talk) 15:20, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-17T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Murry1975","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Murry1975-2016-02-17T15:20:00.000Z-Returning_the_earworm","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-17T16:22:00.000Z-Murry1975-2016-02-17T15:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't be so petty! I was only suggesting linking, not full geo-political union! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-17T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-17T16:22:00.000Z-Murry1975-2016-02-17T15:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I invite you to RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 08:12, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T08:12:00.000Z","author":"George Ho","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-George_Ho-2016-02-18T08:12:00.000Z-Talk:It's_the_End_of_the_World_as_We_Know_It_(And_I_Feel_Fine)","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T08:47:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T08:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh look, a coordinating conjunction As per WP:NCCAPS. What's not to Like? Thanks so much. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T08:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T08:47:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T08:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-George_Ho-2016-02-18T12:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T08:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

"As" is not one of FANBOYS unless you were sarcastic(?). George Ho (talk) 12:30, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T12:30:00.000Z","author":"George Ho","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-George_Ho-2016-02-18T12:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T08:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T13:30:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T12:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yeah, sorry, "like" isn't a big meaty official two-letter coordinating conjunction, but just a lowly four-letter fanboy preposition, isn't it? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:30, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T13:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T13:30:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T12:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-George_Ho-2016-02-18T19:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T13:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

...Back to original intent, you can join the discussion about the section's subject just to improve consensus. Also, you may want to read comments there. George Ho (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T19:04:00.000Z","author":"George Ho","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-George_Ho-2016-02-18T19:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T13:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:03:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T19:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Call me a Philistine if you like, but I know a work of art when I see one. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:03:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-02-18T19:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank goodness, Corbyn wasn't born in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland ;) GoodDay (talk) 20:13, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T20:13:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoodDay-2016-02-18T20:13:00.000Z-Jeremy_Corbyn","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:25:00.000Z-GoodDay-2016-02-18T20:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha, yes. What a relief. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:25:00.000Z-GoodDay-2016-02-18T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-18T20:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not that it would have stopped some people claiming him regardless - Oliver Sachs was American, for a while. (And let's just hope that Assange doesn't pop his clogs any time soon...!)JezGrove (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T20:54:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-18T20:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-18T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, yes he's now South American, isn't he. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T21:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-18T20:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-18T21:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yup, but the Americans are claiming him, too! JezGrove (talk) 21:16, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T21:16:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-18T21:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:34:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-18T21:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not to mention the Scandanavian wrestling. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-18T21:34:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-18T21:34:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-18T21:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You've mentioned the topic of constituent country. That's potentially a very volatile topic in itself. I found that out years ago, when I attempted to implement it into the intros of England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland. Safe to say, I won't be trying it again. GoodDay (talk) 17:26, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T17:26:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoodDay-2016-02-20T17:26:00.000Z-Jeremy_Corbyn","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T17:37:00.000Z-GoodDay-2016-02-20T17:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah right, "potentially a very volatile topic". Just me then? Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll try and just put "cc" next time. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T17:37:00.000Z-GoodDay-2016-02-20T17:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-GoodDay-2016-02-21T00:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T17:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not just you, but anyone :) GoodDay (talk) 00:14, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-21T00:14:00.000Z","author":"GoodDay","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GoodDay-2016-02-21T00:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T17:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Why did you took out "seven grand pianos" to Ludwig Wittgenstein ? Is something bad with seven? They removed seven mice to. I put seven mice, Thomas removes seven mice, at comma article. Put back as it was. Somebody puts back seven mice again. Or is no reason? But I know how to sing pages now. Talk pages. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 23:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-19T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:52:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-19T23:58:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Your singing is lovely. You need a piano. But not 14. And I have no view on mice. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-19T23:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-19T23:58:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

>>| This is very long and very funny page.Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 23:59, 19 February 2016 (UTC) Can you tell me how make them blue, the words? I tried. No success. And now things look different. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-19T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:59:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

You sound a bit like Crystal Gayle here, Ferodovich. But never mind. All in good time. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-19T23:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You mean Pied Piper of Hamelin! Very funny. And you talk. Nobody talks to me, just others. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 00:07, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T00:07:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T00:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Perhaps you should practice with a few cosmetic changes. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T00:10:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T00:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You are funny man. Listen, I can not make the word empiricism normal. It is too black. Can you help at Ludwig Wittgenstein? It is like when on article I am in the front of text, here I am behind. The blue works if copied. I copied word "Western philosophy" so that is blue, it is nice. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 00:24, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T00:24:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T00:24:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":[]}}-->

Somebody removed logical empiricism. But is no factual errors! No, it is a well known fact. Not incorrect. Not false at all. The Vienna Circle were the circle of philosophers who introduced logical empiricism in Western philosophy. and the base was exactly Tractates. Read logical empiricism. It is a very well known fact.

This is from article: "In this theory of knowledge, only statements verifiable either logically or empirically would be cognitively meaningful. Efforts to convert philosophy to this new scientific philosophy were intended to prevent confusion rooted in unclear language and unverifiable claims.[1] The Berlin Circle and the Vienna Circle propounded logical positivism starting in the late 1920s."

You must read about it and you notice it's true, because it is true. This is one very important thing. Exactly WHY Wittgenstein is so important in philosophy. Not piano or brothers suicide, but the develop of logical empirism. The scientific mind!

Here, read very careful . This is very important things, very very complicated, OK: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logical-empiricism/ http://www.westga.edu/~rlane/analytic/lecture10_witt1.pdf http://www.thatmarcusfamily.org/philosophy/Course_Websites/Language_F11/Notes/13-14-Logical_Empiricism.pdf https://philosophynow.org/issues/103/WittgensteinTolstoy_and_the_Folly_of_Logical_Positivism Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 04:28, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T04:28:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T04:28:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T10:43:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T04:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

As you are a new user, it sounds like you are using the much-derided Visual Editor. Try using the "Edit source" tab instead of the "Edit" tab. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-20T10:43:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-20T10:43:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-20T04:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Exactly. Edit source. Thank you. It was nice meeting you. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 00:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-21T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T00:52:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-21T09:54:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T00:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think it might be an easier job to agree on seven pianos than to agree on exactly what the Vienna Circle did and whether Wittgenstein was a part of it (or them). Martinevans123 (talk) 09:54, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-21T09:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-21T09:54:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T00:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I said:"The ideas in the Tractates were an important influence on logical empiricism," and it was the Wienna Circle supported ideas. This what I said. Exactly this. Never said he was member of Wienna Circle. Like One many think, or others. No I cannot speak English very good, true. I learn now. But I can think. That is different thing. It was nice meeting you. Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich (talk) 16:45, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-21T16:45:00.000Z","author":"Michael Sergius Alexander Ferdinand Fedorovich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T16:45:00.000Z-No_7?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-21T16:50:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T16:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Your English is pretty good, actually. I was wondering where you were from, with such a big huge impressive name like that. I wondered if it was perhaps Belarus. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:50, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-21T16:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-21T16:50:00.000Z-Michael_Sergius_Alexander_Ferdinand_Fedorovich-2016-02-21T16:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Greetings!

The exact quotation from the 1879 Annual Register is: “Although the country inhabited by the Bulgarians extends far to the south of the Balkans, the Berlin Congress decided, chiefly in consequence of the firm attitude maintained on the point by the British plenipotentiaries, that the Balkans should form the southern frontier of the Bulgarian principality, and that the remainder of the Bulgarian territory should be constituted a province of the Turkish Empire under the name of Easter Roumelia, with an autonomous administration under a Turkish governor.”

A much more recent publication – Salisbury, Victorian Titan by Andrew Roberts (1999) – states that: “On 17th June the Congress got down to the meat of the Bulgarian question, with Salisbury proposing that Bulgaria be split into an autonomous principality north of the Balkan mountain range, whilst the territory south of it would be called the province of Eastern Roumelia and left under the military and political control of the Sultan...”.

It will take a special kind of talent to hold that the best thing to do in order “to maintain peace in the Balkans” (as this is what I am contesting) is to divide a nation into two different neighbouring states. The inevitable consequence of this brilliant diplomatic solution was their unification just seven years later – in 1885, after a rather peaceful revolution. As this event is a historical fact I do not think that quoting a particular publication is necessary, but at the same book Mr. Roberts describes the complete chaos that followed (pages 352 to 356) and, amusingly, the new development that since in the meanwhile Bulgaria became anti-Russian, now Salisbury favoured big Bulgaria.

What followed from the 1885 unification, which followed the decision at the 1878 Berlin Congress to split the nation in two autonomous states, was the Serbo-Bulgarian war from November 1885. The official casus belli was the violation of the Berlin Congress. That was a rather brief war, that lasted a couple of weeks, but due to the surprising Bulgarian victory, it ended with the acknowledgement of the unification of Bulgaria. Nonetheless it deeply divided the two Balkan nations and that would have implications later, during the First (1912-1913) and Second (1913) Balkan wars, when Bulgaria fought first, along with the other Balkan states against Turkey for liberating the remaining provinces populated by Christians and then against its former allies for dividing the spoils of war.

To wrap up – my argument is that: 1) you cannot state that there was piece in a region (the Balkans) when a war broke out just seven years after the Berlin Congress (followed by further conflicts few decades later) and 2) this turn of events is directly influenced by Disraeli’s government that demanded the separation of one of the Balkan countries (Bulgaria), that ultimately led to that war. I hope that this would suffice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.196.106 (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T01:00:00.000Z","author":"146.199.196.106","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-146.199.196.106-2016-02-22T01:00:00.000Z-Regarding_Benjamin_Disraeli_article_and_the_Balkans","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z-146.199.196.106-2016-02-22T01:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why not create an account? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:59, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z-146.199.196.106-2016-02-22T01:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T12:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T20:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

"This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Schrocat, and there is a new discussion thread which bears his name upon it (but thankfully not mine as well). Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you: "It’s piece in our time". Hoorah! (... waves graciously to general kindly cheers and flag-waving ...) Nev Chamberpot123 (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC) Modern translation: "looks like we’re gearing up for a real humdinger..." [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T12:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nev Chamberpot123"}}-->

I must say, for a Bulgarian you have an almost faultless ability in written English. Better than many so called "English-speaking" editors. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:14, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T20:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T08:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I always thought Kalamazoo sounded a funny place, but not now. Though if he’d been a black cab driver instead of an Uber one I dare say the cops would have shot him first… JezGrove (talk) 20:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T20:16:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T20:16:00.000Z-Am_I_dreamin'?_I_can_hear_her_screamin'","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T20:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmm yes, this guy made Bobby De Niro look like some buffoon on a bike....

"A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H

I got a glock in Kalamazoo

Don't want to boast but now she's toast." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T20:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T21:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it's a zoo, zoo, zoo out there. JezGrove (talk) 21:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T21:44:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T21:44:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

"By 'eck, lad, 'appen it's worse than being stuck on't shelf!" EdSheeran123 (talk) 21:07, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T21:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T22:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"EdSheeran123"}}-->

Weirdly, my dad was in a TV dog food ad with John Noakes back in the '70s - Noakes had the line "My dog Skip...", with the copywriters hoping that no one would notice it should have been Shep (who belonged to the Beeb, of course). And because he said "My dog..." he was contractually obliged to keep the dog for six months (I think) because otherwise it would have been a breach of the regulations on honesty in advertising! JezGrove (talk) 22:06, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T22:06:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T22:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T21:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T22:13:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T22:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry I know all about that, after my recent run in with a Daily Mail-lover geolocated in "Oakland, California" of all places. But I've now checked at RS/N and everything's "unicorns and rainbows" apparently. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:13, 22 February 2016 (UTC) ....but wow, I guess your Dad must have been pretty quick to get that gig?[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T22:13:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T22:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T22:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, this looks like the '70s Noakes ad as I remember it, though I’m not sure where Dad fitted into it all! It wouldn’t have been the first time he ended up on the cutting room floor, but when it came to ‘commercials’ he never minded because the Equity rules at the time meant that he still got the recording fees and repeats (plus if you were seen appearing in an ad for one brand, it effectively ruled you out from being used in one made by their rivals, so not appearing on-screen bizarrely worked in his favour). Dad appears a couple of times in the background here in an advert with Nigel Mansell and Eric Idle – the original storyline had him getting his tie stuck in the (then) new-fangled electric window, but that meaning is lost in the broadcast version and all that remains is one of those ‘blink-and-you’ll-miss-it’ appearances his nearest and dearest fondly remember looking out for back in the day! Believe it or not, that got him over £20k all told – quite a bit at that time, and one of several occasions when he earned more in a couple of days than my poor old mum did slaving away for a whole year… And for some reason they filmed it in Paris, so he had an all-expenses trip too… Not bad for a lad who left school at 14 to go down’t pit - I’m definitely in the wrong line of work! JezGrove (talk) 23:28, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:28:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:36:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

He looked really great in heels, didn't he. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:36, 22 February 2016 (UTC) [14][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:36:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

I just knew you'd blink and miss him! JezGrove (talk) 23:39, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:44:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z","c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:50:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

I did see some other customers there, but then my eyesight is definitely not what it used to be.... Paris you say? Looks more like Peckham. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:44:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I suspect that Peckham lacked some of the tax advantages that Paris offered some of the dodgers and divers involved. Plus ca change... JezGrove (talk) 23:50, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:50:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:50:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now this is a real classy Metro advert. I guess your Dad is the guy in the top-hat and monocle yes? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:59, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-22T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-22T23:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-23T22:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

That must have been one of the roles that he missed! He appeared in the first Smash ad as a caveman, but was replaced by the Martians - and was also in one of the ill-fated 'PG Tips - The tea with the 3D taste' campaign commercials before PG quickly reinstated the chimps... Absolutely true! JezGrove (talk) 22:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-23T22:01:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-23T22:01:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-22T23:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-23T22:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-23T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

How incredible. Although the aliens were obviously iconic. But I wonder can you find any reliable sources for Mr Shifter, Light refreshment lady and voice-over man? Not sure who the son was. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:20, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-23T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-23T22:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-23T22:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T14:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-23T22:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmm, you’re right I ought to find this stuff while he’s still with us but seems to be easier said than done – lots of chimps but no 2D chumps in the teabag ads that I can find online. Ditto not having any joy with the Smash caveman ad from 1968/9. I thought his RSC days would be more fruitful / better documented (he was with them for over a decade from about ’72 onwards) but so far have only dug up credits from audio recordings of performances from the first half of the 70s. And dodgy sites like this one – it’s definitely him, but equally most definitely not a reliable source! Though an external link from Dead on Course backs up the weird transvestite nun photo! Will try and find some actual clips when I have some free time! JezGrove (talk) 14:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T14:07:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T14:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-23T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T14:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T14:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Goodness me, Jezza. I had no idea we were in such illustrious company. We are now all looking forward to a DKY for Wilfred. A male nun, you say? I wonder did he know Jeanne Deckers at all? How exciting.... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:32, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T14:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T14:32:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T14:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Rod Hull was a bit miffed that I didn't recognise him, but still made me a nice cup of tea – in the house Charles Dickens’ Miss Hamilton 'lived' in!

The evidence is very circumstantial, but the story is true. My mum – a Dickens obsessive since childhood and who was eventually elected (joint) Honorary General Secretary of the Dickens Fellowship – was for many years the Branch Secretary of the Fellowship's branch in Rochester, Kent. As such, she was actively involved in all the Dickens-related activities in Rochester, and so in the mid-'80s met the new owners of Restoration House, who happened to be Rod Hull and his second wife Cheryle. On discovering that Cheryle was a professional portrait painter mum duly commissioned a joint portrait of myself and my sister. (Without asking us first - we weren't best pleased and in the event, for complicated travel reasons, were never actually in the studio at the same time.) Anyway, as a result, early one morning I found myself knocking on the door to the house but didn’t immediately realise who was letting me in because 1) I was nervous and apprehensive about the whole damn thing, 2) even though I knew he lived there I hadn't actually considered the possibility of Rod opening the door to the mansion himself, and 3) I’d never seen him without Emu on his arm! Anyway, despite his obvious disappointment at my failure to look suitably starstruck he was very sweet, made me a cup of tea and then led me along the labyrinthine route through the house to the attic where his wife had her studio. JezGrove (talk) 17:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T17:39:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T17:39:00.000Z-Also_strange_but_true...","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T18:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T17:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Is this the prologue? I can't wait to read Chapter One! I'm glad to see that Mr Hull gets a mention at Restoration House. A tragic death, I seem to remember. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T18:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T18:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T18:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, it was a tragic death. Perhaps if the satellite channels had snaffled up the rights to Champions League matches sooner (!) Rod would still be with us. But just in case you think the Rod Hull instalment is weird… just this Sunday mum was talking about her regular chats with the deputy head of Abbey Court school (again in Kent) which she often visited both as part of her then day job and also her co-founding of a new sign language for children with special needs with some of its staff (we're back in the late 1980s again, btw, although the link I found was for the 1994 7th edn of the first book from the Signalong project). Anyway, just before one of mum's visits the deputy head was outed by the tabloid press as a notorious murderess who as a teenager had killed her own mother, and who was working at the school under a new identity. My life truly is a box of chocolates (well, WAS - I’m sincerely hoping all the weirdness is in the past! JezGrove (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T18:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-06-07T00:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T21:19:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nice to see Gina Grant's made something of herself. EEng 00:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-07T00:35:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-EEng-2016-06-07T00:35:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T11:09:00.000Z-EEng-2016-06-07T00:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

I bet she really knocked 'em dead at the interview. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-07T11:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T11:09:00.000Z-EEng-2016-06-07T00:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-06-07T13:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T11:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

^[FBDB] That's pretty funny, but with whom did you bet? EEng 13:28, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-07T13:28:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-EEng-2016-06-07T13:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T11:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T13:40:00.000Z-EEng-2016-06-07T13:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

I forget now, but I got very good odds. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-07T13:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-06-07T13:40:00.000Z-EEng-2016-06-07T13:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Jezza, how amazing. I am truly humbled. In my opinion, both of your wonderful parents are eminently worthy of a mention in this "esteemed" encyclopedia. And weird is nothing to be ashamed of! ... in fact, please treat yourself to one of Al's best (I've always found him a real and essential kindred spirit). Martinevans123 (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T21:19:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

In fact weird could be positively inspirational! (I don't need to say I'm joking, right...?) JezGrove (talk) 22:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T22:12:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

?? Whatever would your mother say... "put on a proper suit, do up your tie, and sing the national anthem, Jez." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:30, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:30:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think she gave up on all three of those some time ago! But I obviously DID need to mention I was joking - although we've had our differences, as families do, I was just clumsily trying to say that they'll only be missed when they're gone (and no offense was intended to "Weird Al" or anyone else). BTW, I’ve just remembered that dad was also the foreman of the jury who sent James Willmott-Brown down in EastEnders (although admittedly you have to scroll a v-e-r-y l-o-n-g way down through that unreliable external link to find him)! JezGrove (talk) 22:53, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T22:53:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, that is quite a long way down. Maybe we need to enlist the help of a real Albert Square trouper.... Martinevans123 (talk) 22:59, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T22:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T23:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hello boys! Albert's quare? Who knew? .micro.dot.cotton (talk) Hours of fun

Yup, way on down! JezGrove (talk) 23:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T23:07:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-02-24T23:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:17:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T23:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

whatevs .... "I think you know what I mean." Martinevans123 (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC) (.... although this is arguably a much brighter and more inventive version[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:17:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-02-24T23:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, you reverted the pic in Viola Beach. It's tricky since the pic is from the last venue they played at in Norrköping (Where's the Music?) so it really belong in the previous section "Deaths", but the only way to place it there would mean "sandwiching" the text and that is a no-no according to MOS, hence my placing it a bit below. Suggestions? Thoughts? Cheers, w.carter-Talk 23:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T23:13:00.000Z","author":"W.carter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-W.carter-2016-02-24T23:13:00.000Z-Reverted","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:32:00.000Z-W.carter-2016-02-24T23:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Maybe a better caption? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:32, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:32:00.000Z-W.carter-2016-02-24T23:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-W.carter-2016-02-24T23:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ok, I'll try that. But if it's reverted again I will not put it back up. I was looking for another Norrköping pic when I came across it and thought it might be something for the article. Best, w.carter-Talk 23:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-24T23:45:00.000Z","author":"W.carter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-W.carter-2016-02-24T23:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-24T23:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. As advised, I seek dispute resolution regarding Disraeli’s assessment, available here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard and you are invited to provide your summary. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.16.1.254 (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-26T17:37:00.000Z","author":"46.16.1.254","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-46.16.1.254-2016-02-26T17:37:00.000Z-Disraeli_dispute_resolution_invitation","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-26T18:24:00.000Z-46.16.1.254-2016-02-26T17:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why not create an account? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-26T18:24:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-26T18:24:00.000Z-46.16.1.254-2016-02-26T17:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T11:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-26T18:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

I left some further questions for you at Talk:Benjamin Disraeli. I'm surprised you have not responded before opening a dispute resolution. And while it's difficult to track your editing history as an ip, I think you might want to read WP:SPA. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T11:05:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T11:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-26T18:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		Editor of the Week
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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 19:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z-Editor_of_the_Week","replies":["c-Buster7-2016-02-27T20:08:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","c-Yash!-2016-02-27T20:11:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T20:48:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T10:10:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","c-Robevans123-2016-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

Right, that's it! Please accept my resignation! 19:43, 27 February 2016 (UTC) p.s. but many thanks, anyway. That was really unexpected. I am deeply touched. (allegedly)

The award is usually distributed on Sunday. Due to the unexpected amount of touching displayed on this page you have been penalized with an additional day as Editor of the Week. This matter has not been discussed with the other WER clerks (Are there any other WER clerks?) and cannot be rescinded or changed in any way. Buster Seven Talk 20:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-02-27T20:08:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:01:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T20:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

I'm very pleased to see that you are keeping up the old traditions. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:01:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T20:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Very well deserved it for your amazing contributions! Congratulations! Yash! 20:11, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T20:11:00.000Z","author":"Yash!","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yash!-2016-02-27T20:11:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:52:00.000Z-Yash!-2016-02-27T20:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ya"}}-->

Haha. Well, as Debbie might say .... "I'm always touched by your presents, dear." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:52:00.000Z-Yash!-2016-02-27T20:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• ... as I said three years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T20:48:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T20:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Gerda, I will always treasure your precious music-related gift... in fact, I've had it sewn into my Blackforest lederhosen weightlifting belt. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T20:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T21:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Better as part of the Charivari, I guess, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T21:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T21:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh yes. "Rough "cat" music" sounds fine to me! [15]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-27T21:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-28T13:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z","c-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

We miss an article on your trophee [de], seriously! Cat music is not all there is to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:16:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-28T13:16:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:21:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-28T13:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, as Google tells me: "Traditionally, it is used by men in the codpiece of costume lederhosen worn." I'll see what I can do! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:21:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-02-28T13:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It has come to the attention of the Editor Retentions' Board of Clerks that you may, perhaps, could be, in possession of a much desired and rarely displayed Official Wikipedia T-shirt. The report states that it is black with the The Wikipedia Globe prominently displayed. The report further states that you may have had your name imprinted on the front (potentially an act of vandalism). This would imply that you have already received accolades and "pats on the back" for your efforts. If that is, in fact, the case you may suffer the misfortune of having an additional day added to your week. The issue is under review. You will be advised ASAP. Buster Seven Talk 22:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T21:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T22:42:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","c-MarnetteD-2016-02-27T22:29:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

To be honest, I often do feel just like running away.... But chosing the right t-shirt can be such a delicate task (boyo) Martinevans123 (talk) 22:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T22:42:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Many many congrats M. This is well deserved - thanks so much for all you do here at WikiP. MarnetteD|Talk 22:29, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T22:29:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2016-02-27T22:29:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T22:50:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2016-02-27T22:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, MarnetteD. That's very nice of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T22:50:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-27T22:50:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2016-02-27T22:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• All I can say is ... WTF? Softlavender (talk) 02:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T09:44:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z","c-Buster7-2016-02-28T05:20:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Just chill, Softy. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T09:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T09:44:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• All I can say is Runaway was one of my favorites at 14 yrs old. Buster Seven Talk 05:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC). You can keep the Award!!! Buster Seven Talk 05:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T05:20:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-02-28T05:20:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-02-28T02:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

@Ritchie333:: please confirm receipt of that large Paypal payment, which seems to have paid off this time. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T10:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T10:10:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T10:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

I thought we were just going to settle quietly for a pony and a Greek island? Draws less attention to the taxman. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:04:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T10:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Darn it, Threesie! There's no need to make a song and dance about this. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Jeez.... talk about an "embarrassment of riches".... I now appear looking like some medieval ballet dancer, wielding a rustic baseball bat, with a low-slung Bavarian jockstrap and half-mast socks from the trenches. Do you take me for a complete fool?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T21:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

I count myself very lucky to get this glittering award. A Ram Invents123 (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T21:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Buster7-2016-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"A Ram Invents123"}}-->

Um....the baseball bat is more of a fungo bat, actually. It's used to hit fly balls to the outfielders during batting practice. And the Bavarian jockstrap is, um, obviously for someone that is well-endowed. Plus, its a Fool card. Not a Complete Fool card. I thought you would like it. The tights have a "slimming" quality, don't ya think? Buster Seven Talk 07:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T07:14:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-02-29T07:14:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T09:22:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-29T07:14:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

Well, that's me corrected and suitably slimmed. But you know what they say "... wherever the US Army goes, the fungos too. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T09:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T09:22:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-29T07:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Richly deserved but surely questions must be asked?! However, a celebratory clue is deserved: 123 across, Confused road tract deals a trump (5,4). As a long term fan of your work I go weak at the knees at this award but supporter wilt is dangerous. By the way, Rob Evans wants to know if he can have his sock back if you've finished posing... 321 Vas Boner (talk) 21:53, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-29T21:53:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-02-27T19:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T22:10:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-29T21:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"321 Vas Boner"}}-->

• Ah yes, boyo bach, you must be one of the "Boners of Bonymaen." Very big in the valleys, by all accounts! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 29 February 2016 (UTC) p.s. those "Buster 7 socks" are a flashy and contemporary fashion statement and I'm not giving them back!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T22:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T22:10:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-02-29T21:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-02-29T23:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T22:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

So long as they are good herding dog socks with a royal pedigree, then hang on to them, but do keep them pulled up. Robevans123 (talk) 23:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T23:34:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-02-29T23:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-29T22:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

RIP Frank. Shaken but never stirred. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:47:00.000Z-Ah,_feck!","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now, and what do you say to a WikiCup? "Feck off, cup!" Mrs Doyle ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:54:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T13:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T14:05:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Mrs Doyle"}}-->

Ah, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on..... Martinhacket123 (talk) 14:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T14:05:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-02-28T14:05:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-02-28T13:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Martinhacket123"}}-->

Some leeks for you!

Dydd Gwyl Dewi Sant Hapus! Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:04, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-01T09:04:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-01T09:04:00.000Z-Saint_David's_Day","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T22:32:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-01T09:04:00.000Z"]}}--> Hi Martin, thanks for the thanks at Reynolds Stone - I really hope his alleged 'Englishness' isn't going to be controversial... Sorry to not send you a greeting for St David's Day – I was worried that it might come out wrong. Oh, and congratulations on your latest WP gong! JezGrove (talk) 22:32, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T22:32:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T22:32:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-01T09:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T22:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T22:32:00.000Z"]}}--> Well, Undertaking Betty looks a real hoot, doesn't it! The only gong I'm used to getting is the sort wielded by Alec Dane: [16]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC) p.s. I'm not sure what The Old Buzzard has done here, but it looks like the rest of this Talk Page will be tastefully bathed in tasty leek soup....[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T22:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T22:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T22:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T22:49:00.000Z"]}}--> Undertaking Betty? - What's not to like? Yes, your pal Gareth wants to be careful, there's a place for anyone responsible for that many leeks. JezGrove (talk) 23:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T23:05:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T22:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:05:00.000Z"]}}--> Hmm, or maybe it's all just a mirage (III)...? Airman Vents 123 (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Airman Vents 123"}}--> I'm just hoping that none of us have crossed the line JezGrove (talk) 23:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T23:27:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:48:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:27:00.000Z"]}}--> (sorry there's no "omfg brilliant button" yet... ) That's only the start! I’ve just realised we could actually out-source Trident! So... now all we have to do is find some mugs to pay the bills and face the fatal consequences if it ever gets used, and the problem's sorted! JezGrove (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T23:48:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:48:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:48:00.000Z"]}}--> " 'appen we'll 'ave no trouble here, if tha dahn't mind!" Stain Man Rev 123 (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-02T23:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-03T00:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Stain Man Rev 123"}}--> You mean it's been "tried 'n' tested" (Trident-tested)? (Excuse my dodgy Yorkshire accent!) JezGrove (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T00:11:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-03T00:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-02T23:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T00:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-03T00:11:00.000Z"]}}--> ... or Bradistan as our friend Donny Comb-over might have it? Martinevans123 (talk) 00:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T00:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T00:20:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-03T00:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This edit is quite inappropriate- [17] the plane did not blow up on the ground. Legacypac (talk) 17:29, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-01T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Legacypac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Legacypac-2016-03-01T17:29:00.000Z-Stupid_Vandelism_by_You","replies":["c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-03-02T08:44:00.000Z-Legacypac-2016-03-01T17:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Lol. Can't see any evidence of "Stupid Vandelism" there. You might want to wind your neck in. --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 08:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-02T08:44:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday-2016-03-02T08:44:00.000Z-Legacypac-2016-03-01T17:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T09:16:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-03-02T08:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's enough to make you go outside and start dancing in the street and a heatwave will follow, It will, I promise if you stick to it ... — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T09:16:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T09:16:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday-2016-03-02T08:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T13:29:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T09:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

??? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T13:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T13:29:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T09:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2016-03-03T15:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T13:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gareth, telling another editor to "stick it" is a personnel attack and offenders will be sent to the corner. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:23, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T15:23:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2016-03-03T15:23:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T13:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T16:53:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-03-03T15:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is the link that I meant to post above: [18] Sorry about the cock-up! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:53, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T16:53:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2016-03-03T15:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:15:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T16:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, things are often quite perilous around here. I have to apply Hanlon's razor so often that I'm practically married to Wendolene Ramsbottom. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:15:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T16:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-03-05T23:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

"sent to the corner", - "no supper" (my talk), - Ritchie, where are we? - Better look at the Morgenstern, GA review welcome, BWV 1 - only one chance;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T23:25:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-03-05T23:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	You are a great example for all of us. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:29, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T15:29:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T15:29:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:20:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T15:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you Thirteensie. I'm not always in everyone's good books, alas. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:20:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

If we are any good, we make waves. But your presence and the way and weight of your contributions is itself worthwhile. Little piffles don't change that. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:28:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T17:32:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Thirteensie" ... I always think of Stan as the sum of a a crown and half-a-crown — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:32, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T17:32:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:46:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T17:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

I always find Stan pretty up tempo and mainstream, while many people find me one sandwich short of a picnic. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:46:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-03T17:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've been called a lot of things before, but never any of those. And 7 X 6 =42! {:<{)> 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:48, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:48:00.000Z","author":"7&6=thirteen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:48:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T08:57:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, not multiply, Stan! I said "sum of" i. e. add.
Before we changed to decimal currency in 1972, we had pounds, shillings and pence. See [19]. "Seven shillings and sixpence" or, as we used to say, "Seven & six"
Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T08:57:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T08:57:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2016-03-03T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-03-04T09:28:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T08:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

When I was a choirboy we called "Seven & six" three weddings - when were lucky enough to be booked to sing for three marriages on a Saturday. It may not sound much now but we'd be on cloud nine - much better than the tanner we used to get paid for ordinary services... Titter ye not. Robevans123 (talk) 09:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T09:28:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-03-04T09:28:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T08:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T09:57:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-04T09:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not exactly a fortune, then. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T09:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T09:57:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-04T09:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T10:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T09:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nor a fourtune. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:21, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T10:21:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T10:21:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T09:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T17:06:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T10:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

But was she worth it? --Hillbillyholiday ....I wish I'd bought a dog

Is this our Martin Evans? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:06, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T17:06:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T17:06:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T10:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:10:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T17:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, of course not! He's here... getting to grips with Roto-Grind chopped straw (as usual). Insane Ram Tv 123 (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T20:10:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:10:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-04T17:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-05T11:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Insane Ram Tv 123"}}-->

Great film.
You handle that big JCB just as if it were this little white car...

"holding-up the by-pass".
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T11:25:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-05T11:25:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T11:59:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-05T11:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Haha! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T11:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T11:59:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2016-03-05T11:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for the contribution towards clearing up the Alley Oop issue in the Herb Alpert article. I appreciate your effort!THX1136 (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:18:00.000Z","author":"THX1136","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-THX1136-2016-03-03T17:18:00.000Z-THANKS!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:22:00.000Z-THX1136-2016-03-03T17:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. You'll find me lurking down all kinds of shady alleys... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T17:22:00.000Z-THX1136-2016-03-03T17:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Apparently Two Out of Three Ain't Bad – but shamefully I only achieve a score of one. Before you ask, I'm scoring against 'Young, Welsh and Pretty Skint' rather than the alternative mentioned in the source… I'll leave that particular score to your imagination! JezGrove (talk) 22:38, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T22:38:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-03T22:38:00.000Z-You_must_be_so_proud_of_your_compatriots!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T22:54:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-03T22:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

They was right. Totes hidjus, innit! Take out Zeta and we're a bunch o ruddy mingers. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-03T22:54:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T22:54:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-03T22:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T00:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T22:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not so, though it seems you've been going downhill (or should that be mountain?) since 2011. JezGrove (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T00:02:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T00:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-03T22:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, your source at Dylan Thomas#Early life looks more specific/detailed than the one I used - I guess his age at the time of his victory should be changed in the article to 14? (I'm in no position to make judgments about the reliability of the City and County of Swansea, of course!) JezGrove (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T19:17:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:17:00.000Z-Dylan_Thomas'_unexpectedly_athletic_youth","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I guess so. Although in the photo he looks about 10 years old! (and not totally unlike someone else just born). I was surprised to find such a good source, especially with that image of the Sports Day programme. Except that, on 19 June 1928, he was still 13, of course...!?Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T19:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Uh-oh - so either way we go with a 'reliable source' and get it wrong, or get shot down in flames for indulging in a bit of commonsense 'original research', then...! JezGrove (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:41:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

I suppose the safest policy is to leave out his age, just leave the date of the event, and let the reader calculate, if desired? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:41, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T19:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:41:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Perfect, I'll change it soon (if you don't beat me to it...) JezGrove (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T19:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T20:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, you’ve sorted it already – that’ll teach me to take a 10-minute Wikibreak! I liked your comment on the Talk Page, btw: "Maybe we need a reader tick box at the bottom of the article for ‘Drinker / Poet / It is hard to split the two’?" Dorothy Parker put it very aptly (as usual): "I'm not a writer with a drinking problem, I'm a drinker with a writing problem". And it seems you have to be especially careful with your writing in Wales! (Though no drink was involved with that case, obvs… - thanks to my legal team for that qualifying remark.) JezGrove (talk) 20:49, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T20:49:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T20:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T19:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T20:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah yes, with all that time down the tanning booths and the tats parlours, all we poor Welsh folk can usually manage on our writing slates is a few x's and o's. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T20:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T22:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don’t underestimate the value of the blank slate, and all that philosophical poo! (On the other hand, a friend recently reminded me that: PHILOSOPHY is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat; METAPHYSICS is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat that is not there; THEOLOGY is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat, that is not there, and shouting "I found it!"; but SCIENCE is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat using a f----- torch".) JezGrove (talk) 22:31, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T22:31:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T22:31:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T22:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, hahah!! That is sweet. But we all know the black cat probably died in 1935.... probably. "User:Cat Schro 123" (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T22:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T23:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I should have realised that witticism would already have its own WP page! (Of course, now that I've found it I've had to add a new ref to it...) JezGrove (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T23:49:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-04T23:49:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-04T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T00:14:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T23:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Or maybe just not enough of the Duff. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T00:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T00:14:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-04T23:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-05T00:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T00:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

A duff lawyer - or an honest one? There's a philosophical conundrum just in that alone! JezGrove (talk) 00:18, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T00:18:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-05T00:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T00:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-05T00:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

We also offer an extensive range of bridge painting services. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T18:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-05T00:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-08T23:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, Martin I didn't see your reply until just now. (Though I don't think I've missed out on not having the Duff debt management advice!) I just popped over here to say 'Thanks' for the thanks over at Dylan Thomas. The Poetry Foundation source extract that I used started: "Like James Joyce before him, Dylan Thomas was obsessed with words—with their sound and rhythm and especially with their possibilities for multiple meanings. This richness of meaning, an often illogical and revolutionary syntax, and catalogues of cosmic and sexual imagery render Thomas's early poetry original and difficult. In a letter to Richard Church, included by FitzGibbon in Selected Letters, Thomas commented on what he considered some of his own excesses: "Immature violence, rhythmic monotony, frequent muddle-headedness, and a very much overweighted imagery that leads often to incoherence."" It seemed potentially useful, but I couldn’t quite see where it might fit… It has to be said, Thomas is THE best poet to read out aloud (his Elegy is probably my personal favourite in that respect, for what it's worth...) JezGrove (talk) 23:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-08T23:03:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-08T23:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-09T07:52:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-08T23:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

You've added some good stuff over there. Yes, it does sound good. And he could read it pretty well himself, of course, which is why the US lecture tours looked so attractive to that leech Brinnin and his cronies. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:23, 8 March 2016 (UTC

Yes, he sounded fantastic - I've seen it said that he effectively created the audio book years ahead of its time. JezGrove (talk) 07:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-09T07:52:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-09T07:52:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-08T23:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I can't comment at the article talk page since the image I have found will mislead and confuse since it is about someone else and the "joke" gets lost but the file name fits exactly (and is not a joke). Buster Seven Talk 12:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T12:35:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:35:00.000Z-Guess_who","replies":["c-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:54:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

By the way, as long as I'm here, I want to say what a fun time I had during your tenure as Editor of the Week. The box of chocolates and the daily flowers were special and really un-necessary. I'm just doing my job. A new awardee will be notified tomorrow and your reign will be over but your term in office will be a memorable one for me. Thanks for being unique and creating that opening. Buster Seven Talk 12:54, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T12:54:00.000Z","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:54:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:12:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

Reign over already? Surely not. But hey, forget the blooms... what happened to that magnum of champagne I sent over?? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:12, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-05T18:12:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-05T18:12:00.000Z-Buster7-2016-03-05T12:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for removing the hidden "Why, if he was Jewish?" buried away in a comment when it is explained that Emeric's grave bears the only Star of David in that Church of England churchyard -- SteveCrook (talk) 03:11, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-06T03:11:00.000Z","author":"SteveCrook","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCrook-2016-03-06T03:11:00.000Z-Emeric_Pressburger","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:47:00.000Z-SteveCrook-2016-03-06T03:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, maybe he just grew to love Aspall. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-09T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:47:00.000Z-SteveCrook-2016-03-06T03:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mary Rose. It least he/she/it has a broad range of interests..Irondome (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-09T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-09T21:08:00.000Z-217.42.28.107","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:41:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-09T21:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

I suspect the Mary Rose probably had a few million kilos of Tudor incendiaries tucked away for ballast. I'm surprised we haven't moved on to electronic dance music by now, or even to the Japs. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-09T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:41:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-09T21:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2016-03-09T21:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's wurst than that, the Mary Rose was a certain couples' post war love - nest cleverly converted by the bloke who would later found Ikea. He/she/it wishes to bury that fact. Hence the attempt to cover up the truth by the rediscovery edit. (Twitch). Is it not clear? (twitch). Irondome (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-09T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-09T21:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-09T21:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"latyer"... -2001:558:1400:10:207B:B05B:7A16:DA9F (talk) 21:53, 11 March 2016 (UTC) User who appreciates your work on cleaning up Keith's bio, but is banned by Jimmy Wales from helping out.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-11T21:53:00.000Z","author":"2001:558:1400:10:207B:B05B:7A16:DA9F","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2001:558:1400:10:207B:B05B:7A16:DA9F-2016-03-11T21:53:00.000Z-Typo","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T21:57:00.000Z-2001:558:1400:10:207B:B05B:7A16:DA9F-2016-03-11T21:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Jimmy who? You'll have your work cut out correcting my typos, I'm afraid. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-11T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T21:57:00.000Z-2001:558:1400:10:207B:B05B:7A16:DA9F-2016-03-11T21:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Any chance of moving the article on Keith Emerson's old band The V.I.P.'s in order to lose that horrible apostrophe - it doesn't appear in the band's name in the lead paragraph? JezGrove (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC) JezGrove (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-11T23:32:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-11T23:32:00.000Z-The_kid's_today","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T23:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-11T23:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Has to be done here. Takes a few hours usually. But I see no reason why not. It's not like you're asking for gender reassignment with a capital "L", is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:49, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-11T23:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T23:49:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-11T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T23:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Martin. (Might just be me, but ALL those dudes look like ladies...) JezGrove (talk) 00:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T00:05:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:05:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-11T23:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T00:19:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Themz Ain't No Ladies, Themz My Tru Hoez." Lyle Lovett123 (talk) 00:19, 12 March 2016 (UTC) [20][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T00:19:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T00:19:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T00:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Lyle Lovett123"}}-->

Haha (or should that be Hwahwa?) I've requested the move over there now - thanks again for the link. JezGrove (talk) 00:34, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T00:34:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T00:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T08:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, looks dreadful, doesn't it. The Grocer himself would be proud, I'm sure. Although some people do advocate apostrophes for plurals of abbreviations and acronyms. There are probably huge discussions archived over at MoS punc. But one issue I've just spotted is that it's currently disambiguating with the film The V.I.P.s. So maybe we'd have to move to The V.I.P.s (film) and/or The V.I.P.s (band)? So I'm guessing the admin over at Wikipedia:Requested_moves might well post it out for discussion. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T08:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T08:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-12T00:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Listen here, bot features, if you're so damn clever, why don'tcha just go fix it yourself??? ya scumbag! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T13:24:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-12T13:24:00.000Z-BracketBot-2016-03-12T13:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, thanks to you too for helping to fix up Keith's article. I wasn't a huge prog fan backintheday but I happened to see ELP at HV in 2010 and was impressed despite myself (and despite some of their olden fans saying it wasn't a very good show). Just letting you know I found a few more cites for the Instrumentation section and am trying to fix that up with some better refs and general tighten up this morning. Cheers, TheBlinkster (talk) 16:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T16:05:00.000Z","author":"TheBlinkster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheBlinkster-2016-03-12T16:05:00.000Z-Keith_Emerson","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-13T17:39:00.000Z-TheBlinkster-2016-03-12T16:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, my pleasure. Myself always a bigger fan of the Nice, which seemed to me to be much more exciting. Emerson Lake and Parker often a bit too sterile for me, although Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery still personal favourites. Keith was kind enough to reply to me in 2014, through social media, about St Mark's Church - see Talk:Tarkus#St. Marks? I guess that, with the very many improvements made, the article may get to the front page. It's only two days since we learned of Keith's death. Unless of course someone who has "no interest at all in this individual" and who "won't be working on it" simply decides the article is "tremendously far from ready". Martinevans123 (talk) 17:39, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-13T17:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-13T17:39:00.000Z-TheBlinkster-2016-03-12T16:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheBlinkster-2016-03-14T09:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-13T17:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fascinating discussion on St. Mark's Church. I too was trying to figure out which St. Mark's it was, especially since there was a post somewhere that said Rick Wakeman almost used the same organ for something else but didn't like the sound. Found plenty of sources saying "St. Mark's Church" (I believe it's also on the record jacket credits) and one saying Flentrop organ but as you discovered the Flentrop St. Mark's seems to be in Seattle - bit far from London recording studios - and no clue on which St. Mark's or whether the place still existed. Very cool that Keith answered back on the query. Thanks again. TheBlinkster (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-14T09:04:00.000Z","author":"TheBlinkster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TheBlinkster-2016-03-14T09:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-13T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:38:00.000Z-TheBlinkster-2016-03-14T09:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. You also a fan? I see that the good old Daily Mail has gone all out for a suitably trite and lurid headline for this morning's coverage (but still good pictures). He seemed like a genuinely nice guy who still connected in a meaningful way with his fans - perhaps too meaningful. It's very sad that his life ended like that. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-14T14:38:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:38:00.000Z-TheBlinkster-2016-03-14T09:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheBlinkster-2016-03-15T00:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was too young to see their show back in the 70s and I had a bias against prog for a long time, partly because I was a punk when I came "of age" and partly because the musical establishment back then, such as radio, did not make it easy to hear the best moments of the British 70s bands (or in many cases, any moments at all). In my middle age my musical taste got way more eclectic, plus I played classical piano for many years as a kid, so I got a little bit into Emerson. After spending 2 days in his virtual presence now I'm really interested in him. Wiki is good for creating little obsessions like that (last week it was Martin W. Littleton - super famous in his time and so forgotten today all he had was a stub with a picture). TheBlinkster (talk) 00:08, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-15T00:08:00.000Z","author":"TheBlinkster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TheBlinkster-2016-03-15T00:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Many thanks for your help and moral support on getting the Keith Emerson article into shape for its RD posting. Kind regards,

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Blimey! Not an infernal Cat Attic Attack?! Quick... pass me those antique Nazi daggers... !! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-14T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T12:01:00.000Z-TheBlinkster-2016-03-14T08:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, Thanks for chipping in on the Senghenydd article. It passed today as a GA, and I've put it up for PR. Should you have any thoughts that would help it get to FA, I'd be delighted to hear them. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 14:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-14T14:16:00.000Z","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SchroCat-2016-03-14T14:16:00.000Z-Senghenydd","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:24:00.000Z-SchroCat-2016-03-14T14:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2013 SchroCat"}}-->

Congratulations, a huge improvement. My input has been shockingly frivolous and superficial. I will try and have another look. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-14T14:24:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-14T14:24:00.000Z-SchroCat-2016-03-14T14:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Never mind, there’s always Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll… (My apologies for the truly terrible pun in the section heading!) JezGrove (talk) 10:59, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T10:59:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-16T10:59:00.000Z-Dragonian_measures_in_Wales","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T11:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-16T10:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, tragic. A real "where's the salad?" moment for Doris: [21]. I do so enjoy a good Welsh Tattoo, don't you? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:18, 16 March 2016 (UTC) I have sent you a very suspect link via email...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T11:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T11:18:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-16T10:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-16T23:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T11:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Phew, it seems the tattooists and piercers of Wales have had a reprieve now - though I hope Dor isn't caught short now that there'll be no compulsory local toilets strategy after all. (The heady power of devolution....) Still, no one can say Leanne and her party monsters are a cheap date now! (I didn't get the email wit the dodgy link, btw.) JezGrove (talk) 23:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T23:28:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-16T23:28:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T11:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T23:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-16T23:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

She's propa lush ain't she? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:40, 16 March 2016 (UTC) I've tried again! .... prolly gone straight in yer trash *sob*... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T23:40:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T23:40:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-16T23:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-17T09:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T23:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Got it awr, roedd yn wych! (Blame Google translate for any inadvertent untowardness!) JezGrove (talk) 09:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-17T09:53:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-17T09:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T23:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-17T11:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-17T09:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mae llawer mwy, gwaetha'r modd. Dyn Tiwb Cymraeg123 (talk) 11:15, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-17T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-17T11:15:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-17T09:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-17T11:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-17T11:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Dyn Tiwb Cymraeg123"}}-->

That'll teach me, I think something got lost in translation? JezGrove (talk) 11:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-17T11:40:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-17T11:40:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-17T11:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Another note here. Sca (talk) 13:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2016-03-16T13:09:00.000Z-Breivik","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T22:18:00.000Z-Sca-2016-03-16T13:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, indeed. Am surprised he didn't include the dreadful colour of his cell blinds as contributing to his breach of human rights. I didn't know it was only in 1979 that Capital punishment in Norway was abolished. Even after the 2011 Norway attacks, it seems, "opposition to the death penalty remained firmly entrenched, with 16 percent supporting and 68 percent opposed." Those PA announcements saying "Now it's time for outdoors recreation" must have been terribly annoying for him. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T22:18:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T22:18:00.000Z-Sca-2016-03-16T13:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please take a look at the article about Frans Jeppsson Wall. I always appreciate your work:)BabbaQ (talk) 19:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T19:22:00.000Z","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BabbaQ-2016-03-16T19:22:00.000Z-Article","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T22:29:00.000Z-BabbaQ-2016-03-16T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks ok! But you can't get round me that way... I'll still be plugging for Joe and Jake: [22], [23] Martinevans123 (talk) 22:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-16T22:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-16T22:29:00.000Z-BabbaQ-2016-03-16T19:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It's just been pointed out to me that the plot of The Simpsons episode "Bart to the Future", set 30 years in the future, included Lisa becoming President of the United States of America and trying to sort out the economic mess left by her predecessor in the Oval Office, Donald Trump! JezGrove (talk) 16:43, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-18T16:43:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-18T16:43:00.000Z-Department_of_'You_couldn't_make_it_up'!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T19:06:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-18T16:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Maybe "our Hills" can play a mean sax, just like her hubby old Billy the Clints?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:06, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-18T19:06:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T19:06:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-18T16:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-18T20:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T19:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

If only he'd stuck to sax practice sessions in the White House. "I did not have saxual relations with that woman" would never have got him into trouble - except with vocabulary pedants, and he managed that anyway with his "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is". BTW, do you think my source stood up the since-deleted "economic mess" claim over at Trump?JezGrove (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-18T20:27:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-18T20:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T19:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T21:24:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-18T20:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Stood up?? It practically whooped ass. The Trump campaign gets stranger and more worrying by the day. As mentioned am away for a few days, so no internet connection. See you soon! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-18T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-18T21:24:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-18T20:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Enjoy your break. Is it rugby related? Should be a good day, but won't be able to match last year's final day. Robevans123 (talk) 13:12, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-19T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-03-19T13:12:00.000Z-RugbyBreak?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-23T23:16:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-19T13:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, Robevans123. Indirectly it was - but only via the television! Glad to see that in the final game, rugby was the true winner. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:16, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-23T23:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-23T23:16:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-19T13:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-23T23:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

OMG, how good is this!! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T11:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:59:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-23T23:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-25T12:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yup, Joe B is a fantastic guitarist - although whenever I hear "Sloe Gin" it always strikes me as an odd choice of drink in the title as I think of it as an old lady's drink and not too rock'n'roll (but maybe that's just me). JezGrove (talk) 12:53, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T12:53:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-25T12:53:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T12:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-25T12:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, this track is really cookin. But sorry, it is just you. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 25 March 2016 (UTC) .... but you're right, this is incredible ...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T12:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T12:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-03-25T12:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-03-25T13:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T12:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Me being a muppet as usual, then - but I'm still sticking with cigarettes, whiskey and wild, wild women. JezGrove (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T13:34:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-03-25T13:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin, since you apparently have Colin Welland on your watch list, could you please keep your eyes out for drive-by editors that change the birthplace from Liverpool (correct) to Leigh (incorrect)? I'm not always on-wiki to catch that (was off for four or five days recently), so the article needs more eyes. Thanks, and anyone reading this, could you please also assist by watching the article? (The main reason the drive-bys try to change it is that all of Welland's obits got the birthplace wrong (see article talk page and the footnote in the article itself.) Thanks! Softlavender (talk) 00:52, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Softlavender-2016-03-25T00:52:00.000Z-Colin_Welland","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-03-25T00:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, we had quite a discussion about this on the article Talk Page last November, didn't we? After I answered the question you had posted there in 2009! It's the sort of "correction" that many editors will make - especially when in it's in the The New York Times obit which is used as the article's first source! I think maybe a hidden note could be added after the text to explain? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:36, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-03-25T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z","c-Softlavender-2016-03-25T10:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Blimey! I think that should get people's attention!! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:47, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T10:47:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(edit conflict) OK, I've done that, thanks for the suggestion. Nonetheless, I would appreciate it if you and others could specifically keep an eye out for drivebys who change it -- this is twice in one week it's happened (perhaps even the same person) and I'm not on Wikipedia every day; sometimes I take long breaks, and this sort of information shouldn't be left incorrect like that. Thanks anyone who can help! -- Softlavender (talk) 10:52, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T10:52:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Softlavender-2016-03-25T10:52:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T10:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-03-25T10:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try and spread the word. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T11:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T11:17:00.000Z-Softlavender-2016-03-25T10:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I used to drink with Larkin on jazz night (Tuesdays?) in the Haworth. He wasn't a big drinker - I guess unaccepted oesophageal cancer will do that - but I always made a point of buying him a pint. "Very kind of you", he'd say. "Think nothing of it", I replied, "I'm going to dine out with impressionable young English students for years on this story". The old lecher smiled. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Andy Dingley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-25T21:40:00.000Z-Larkin","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T21:51:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-25T21:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Aghast!! Surprised you don't have a blue plaque there, Andy. Wasn't too fond of sherry though, was he? "A good meal can somewhat repair, The eatings of slight love" - so I hope you enjoyed your dinner. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T21:51:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-25T21:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-27T01:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T21:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

At least in later years, he had relatively little interest in his own poetry and his two great loves were jazz and his library (maybe other things beyond my knowledge). I went to Hull, in large part, because of the quality of that library - although there weren't many other places to do laser physics. He certainly detested the Oxbridge sherry circuit and its affectations. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Andy Dingley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-27T01:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-25T21:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T13:44:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-27T01:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yo, Dingles! "The tiny, clear, Sparkling armada of wikipedia promises draw near." A shame, I think, that Larkin dismissed Monk as 'the elephant on the keyboard': [24] Martinevans123 (talk) 13:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T13:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T13:44:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2016-03-27T01:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin. In the section "Song versions" seen here [25], would you be interested in sharing your thoughts? I'm personally done with talking to that editor who opened the thread. Maybe you could help by sharing your input? Caden ^cool 23:38, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caden-2016-03-25T23:38:00.000Z-Thoughts","replies":["c-Caden-2016-03-25T23:44:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-25T23:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

If you are interested you can read this section called "Versions" here [26] as well. Caden ^cool 23:44, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-25T23:44:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Caden-2016-03-25T23:44:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-25T23:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-26T00:03:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-25T23:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Caden. Well, I'm a fan of Phil Spector, but not so much the wall of text. But I'll try and take a look tomorrow. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-26T00:03:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-26T00:03:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-25T23:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Caden-2016-03-26T00:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-26T00:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay thanks Martin. And I agree with you the wall of text is overkill. Any input from you would be appreciated so thank you :) Caden ^cool 00:11, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-26T00:11:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Caden-2016-03-26T00:11:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-26T00:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Martin thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. It is appreciated. Caden cool 07:34, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T07:34:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caden-2016-03-27T07:34:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T10:29:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-27T07:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Give a man a beer, waste an hour. Teach a man to brew, and waste a lifetime!" - Bill Owen. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T10:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T10:29:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-27T07:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-03-27T11:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T10:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Give a monk a barrel of salvator, and waste 40 days. Robevans123 (talk) 11:03, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T11:03:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-03-27T11:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T10:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T11:17:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-27T11:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's enough to make a man want to move to Texas. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T11:17:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T11:17:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-03-27T11:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Martin if you have the time could you please go to this [27] RFC and share your opinion? I know you are a long time music editor so I thought you could add to the discussion. Thanks. Caden ^cool 19:52, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T19:52:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caden-2016-03-27T19:52:00.000Z-Caravan_RFC","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T22:22:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-27T19:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I might go. But after hearing this again, I can't promise I'll ever come back. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 27 March 2016 (UTC) (..... and here with The Monster himself) ... have also always loved Tommy Flanagan's take.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T22:22:00.000Z-Caden-2016-03-27T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Caden-2016-04-12T23:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T22:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Martin. We have a slim consensus now to restore the deleted text. Caden ^cool 23:29, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-12T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Caden-2016-04-12T23:29:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T22:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:00:00.000Z-Caden-2016-04-12T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for telling me. Maybe the caravan needs a little rest for a while. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:00, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T20:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:00:00.000Z-Caden-2016-04-12T23:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Caden-2016-04-13T20:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree with you and your good taste. Midnight at the Oasis is a good song. Caden ^cool 20:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T20:12:00.000Z","author":"Caden","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Caden-2016-04-13T20:12:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:14:00.000Z-Caden-2016-04-13T20:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's positively blissful. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:14, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:14:00.000Z-Caden-2016-04-13T20:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just remember to take a break at the caravanserai if you get tired. JezGrove (talk) 21:37, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z","c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:48:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

"My other car is a 1968 Morris Traveller" (... but it's a bit of MOT risk).... it's unlikely to even get past Watford Gap Martinevans123 (talk) 21:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:42:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Could be quite a line-up for the Pyramid stage! (Though not sure how well Mr Corbyn would go down as a warm-up...) JezGrove (talk) 21:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T21:48:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:48:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sheesh! Not more dodgy Panama financial investment scandals?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:55:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T21:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T22:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

I do hope that you're not using unparliamentary language!JezGrove (talk) 22:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T22:03:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-13T22:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T21:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T22:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T22:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nah, it's strictly hardcore funk here, mate. I'll leave that to the Beast of Bolsover. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-13T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-13T22:07:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-13T22:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Marge

I was recently experimenting with the clever gadgets on my user page, when I stumbled upon the view history tab. Inflamed with curiosity, I pressed it and was intrigued by a number of watchers tab. In my folly I pressed it. Imagine my horror as I discovered I only had sixty one! In my grief and shame I rushed to my bedchamber, where I suffered a complete Mental breakdown. It may have been days or weeks, but I awoke clutching my poster of arguably the greatest Briton who ever lived. The days have become an unending nightmare. How can I increase this miserable total? Should I start an RfA? Should I start an Infobox war? Is the answer to include the word fuck in all postings? Only you can help. Irondome (talk) 20:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-27T20:47:00.000Z-Crushed_of_London","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:15:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T20:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Gadgets are very over-rated, I find. But thanks for telling me about that mystical tab. It seems I share a score with Hadrian's edict prohibiting the practice of circumcision - how comforting. Congrats, your last guess was right. Except that four-letter words always seem to attract the wrong crowd.... yours ever, here on Craggy Island, Sane Varmint 123 (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC) p.s. I share your pain [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T21:15:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:15:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T20:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sane Varmint 123"}}-->

Your words are a great comfort. Irondome (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T21:32:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:32:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:37:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

"I can't believe I'm not better" Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:37:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not that Marge! This Marge! Irondome (talk) 21:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:58:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

What do you take me for, "a man of letters"? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T21:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:58:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-27T21:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2016-03-27T22:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

The edit summary was a masterpiece! Irondome (talk) 22:04, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-27T22:04:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-27T22:04:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-27T21:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your thank-you. Sca (talk) 01:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Sca","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sca-2016-03-28T01:35:00.000Z-TNX","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T09:26:00.000Z-Sca-2016-03-28T01:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

TNX for the TNX. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC) this could go on for some time... [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T09:26:00.000Z-Sca-2016-03-28T01:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Do you g-know what GNU stands for? a g-nother g-nome 10:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Wow "hoo noo"?? ...and who said there was an anti-English agenda at In The Gnus?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC) [28][reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T11:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T11:04:00.000Z-GNU","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for linking to "vowel functions" and "anal GPS". 89.8.239.64 (talk) 13:17, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T13:17:00.000Z","author":"89.8.239.64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-89.8.239.64-2016-03-28T13:17:00.000Z-Vowels_where_the_sun_don't_shine","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T13:22:00.000Z-89.8.239.64-2016-03-28T13:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I thought "vowel function" was quite appropriate too. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T13:22:00.000Z-89.8.239.64-2016-03-28T13:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Could you treat the request here ? Regards. --Panam2014 (talk) 18:38, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T18:38:00.000Z","author":"Panam2014","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Panam2014-2016-03-28T18:38:00.000Z-POV_pushing_in_Yemen","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T19:39:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-28T18:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

I wonder were you intending to add the "Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning"? And have you made any attempt "resolve dispute on article talk page? But are you sure you have the right venue, as "Pov Pushing" doesn't necessarily mean "edit warring". Martinevans123 (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T19:39:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-28T18:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Panam2014-2016-03-28T20:57:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T19:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

For more, you could see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Panam2014 reported by User:K!lluminati (Result: Restriction in lieu of block) and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Panam2014 reported by User:K!lluminati (Result: Restriction in lieu of block) and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Pov pushing of Kiluminati in Module:Yemeni Civil War detailed map. The problem is very serious. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:57, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Panam2014","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Panam2014-2016-03-28T20:57:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T19:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:00:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-28T20:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

So he's now agreed to stop editing maps until May 1st? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:00:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-28T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-EdJohnston-2016-03-28T22:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Actually Panam2014 has agreed to stop editing maps until May 1st. So far User:K!lluminati is not sanctioned, though one 3RR complaint is still open. EdJohnston (talk) 22:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T22:03:00.000Z","author":"EdJohnston","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EdJohnston-2016-03-28T22:03:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:09:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2016-03-28T22:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you for the clarification. I don't see there is anything I can do to help the situation. I have no personal interest in this topic. I trust it will be resolved one way or another. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T22:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:09:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2016-03-28T22:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry for my comment at inappropriate place, but i write only because of tagging my name at here. this clumsily behaviors such as send notifications to all of admins [29],[30],[31],[32] or launching mayhem and controversy not only isn't effective but also similar to an example of a criminal act! Wikepedia is not a WP:BATTLEGROUND and Dishonest and gaming behaviors oughtn't be place in that. when seen to the his contributions log we faced with massive amounts of these behaviors after approval restrictions! i hope admins including EdJohnston be following up these issues.

Thanks. K!lluminati (talk) 23:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T23:03:00.000Z","author":"K!lluminati","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-K!lluminati-2016-03-28T23:03:00.000Z-POV_pushing_in_Yemen","replies":["c-Panam2014-2016-03-29T11:36:00.000Z-K!lluminati-2016-03-28T23:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Since it is Killuminati allows to track messages, so this is a WP: Harassment. For the rest given the magnitude of the POV pushing, it was legitimate to notify administrators. Could you warn him ? --Panam2014 (talk) 11:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-29T11:36:00.000Z","author":"Panam2014","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Panam2014-2016-03-29T11:36:00.000Z-K!lluminati-2016-03-28T23:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:12:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-29T11:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sheesh! I'm tempted to redefine the map of my Talk Page. Listen you guys, you're three days early for an all-in tag-team bout on my page, ok? Be sure to add any comments soon, as this thread will self-destruct in 3 minutes!! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-29T12:12:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:12:00.000Z-Panam2014-2016-03-29T11:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just watch out, or I'll set Teen girl loose on you .... Martinevans123 (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-29T12:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T12:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you, Martinevans. I was unable to see more than one page of the book you linked to (the page mentioning Dupree's song). Feel free to revert my edit, but I think it would be appropriate to link to your source for substantiation. I am pretty new to editing Wikipedia articles, but I was a book editor for 30-some years. I may have been overly bold with this particular edit. I appreciate hearing from you. Best wishes from Jim Wicklatz Jwicklatz (talk) 20:09, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Jwicklatz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jwicklatz-2016-03-28T20:09:00.000Z-Champion_Jack_Dupree_and_rap","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T20:29:00.000Z-Jwicklatz-2016-03-28T20:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries. You did a good job at tidying up what was there. I'm thinking that although the book suggests a link between that song and the development of rap, but it doesn't explain why very well. So it is a bit tenuous. I may open a thread at the CJD Talk Page. While we consider, we might want to listen, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T20:29:00.000Z-Jwicklatz-2016-03-28T20:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This is interesting. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fJdfkIO4mSsC&pg=PA286&dq=troubadours+and+the+origins+of+rap+music&hl

I always thought the Troubadours were indirect pioneers of rap. I saw a programme with that python travelling in southern France a few years ago. Two guys performed a troubadour piece and it was bloody rap. I nearly dropped my Horlicks. Irondome (talk) 21:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-03-28T21:19:00.000Z-Champion_Jack_Dupree_and_rap","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-28T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I think maybe you got something there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-28T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Irondome-2016-03-28T21:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T10:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Irondome, you may have inadvertently confused your pythons! Wasn't it the Welsh one..? Also, try this.. --HillbillyBragg

This thread has (as usual) degenerated into just a broken dream. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-29T10:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-03-29T10:09:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-03-28T22:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Template:Did you know nominations/Paddy Murphy (Liverpudlian) EEng 03:20, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z-Fancy_doing_a_DYK_review?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-02T08:48:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T13:59:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Will try and take a quick peek. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:48, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-02T08:48:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-02T08:48:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Done. How fascinating. I see that fellow Scouser James Lord Bowes "opened to the public the first dedicated museum of Japanese art in the western world." But then Japanese does sound quite a bit like Scouse Martinevans123 (talk) 13:59, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T13:59:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-02T03:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-04-03T14:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T13:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've been to Liverpool, but I came in from Dublin at midnight and caught a train at 5:45, so I saw and spoke to exactly two people only: the taxi driver and the hotel clerk. EEng 14:54, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T14:54:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T14:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T13:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T15:00:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T14:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

You obviously need some tuition. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:00, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T15:00:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T14:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-04-03T15:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T15:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

The key-phrase idea seems like good advice, actually. EEng 15:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T15:35:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T15:35:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T15:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}-->

And editor except the article creator (i.e. I) can end the speedy-deletion nonsense by simply removing the template. Might I suggest you do that? It's amazing that someone can be active on WP for that many years and still be that confused about the meaning of notability or even, for that matter, the meaning of the various speedy deletion modes. EEng 20:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z-CSD_nonsense","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T20:42:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z","c-EEng-2016-04-03T23:55:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Out of extreme courtesy, I was leaving that to you. But I'll await your robust defence first, if you wish. And I'll just start to sprinkle a little salt for you two Wiki heavyweights. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T20:42:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T20:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T20:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Perhaps EEng can show us where the claim of notability is? Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:54, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Ghmyrtle","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T20:54:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have a better idea, which is that you might perhaps refresh your memory of WP:A7, which requires not a claim of notability but rather a claim of "significance", which is explicitly defined as a far, far lower standard than notability. Clearly "cousin of the Japanese emperor" qualifies. Martin, can you put an end to this by just doing the honors? In removing the CSD template, you need not even state a reason -- it's meant to be as easy to remove as to add. EEng 21:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T20:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:08:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z","c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

OK, I'll give you that one. Does "second cousin by marriage" give "significance"? Really?? Would he still have been "significant" if he hadn't been called by a nickname? Perhaps I used the wrong template - but you still have not indicated why he's sufficiently notable for an article. The reasons for the article's existence here look extremely dubious to me. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:08, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Ghmyrtle","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:08:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

PS: I almost never nominate articles for deletion - I've probably nominated fewer than 10 in almost 10 years, hence using the wrong template. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:26, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Ghmyrtle","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Eman235-2016-04-03T21:12:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z","c-EEng-2016-04-03T21:31:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

I just got thanked twice for removing a CSD tag. That's a first. Eman235/talk 21:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:12:00.000Z","author":"Eman235","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Eman235-2016-04-03T21:12:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T21:20:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-04-03T21:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oi, you two - you're meant to be having the Scouse scrap over at the Sumo ring, ya great lard-pants. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T21:20:00.000Z-Eman235-2016-04-03T21:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Well, that may explain why you're so unclear on the criteria. For crying out loud, notability (which is discussed at AfD) is a function of coverage, not any asserted fact (which is what A7 is about). For the nth time, you need to review CSD, prod, and AfD criteria and procedures. They're fairly complex, but the solution to that is that if you can't keep them straight you shouldn't be dabbling in them. You're wasting a lot of people's time here. EEng 21:31, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:31:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T21:31:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2016-04-03T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T21:33:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

For crying out loud, go and argue over there!! lol Martinevans123 (talk) 21:33, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T21:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-03T21:33:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T21:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Now at AfD, will wonders never cease. EEng 23:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-03T23:55:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-03T23:55:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T13:58:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T23:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

  Please note that I have now moved to Liverpool and changed my name. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:58, 4 April 2016 (UTC) ... sorry, no Leonard Nimoy in this one [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T13:58:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-03T23:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 4 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margareta Hallin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Margareta Hallin could have performed internationally, but decided to stay in her homeland instead? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margareta Hallin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Well at least she managed to stay there until 9.30. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T15:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T15:13:00.000Z-BabbaQ-2016-04-04T00:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-04T15:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T15:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

The Witch of Pungo comes to mind. What do we do now with our 3/4 credit? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T15:47:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-04T15:47:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T15:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T21:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-04T15:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not sure, maybe just toast our partial success? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T21:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-04T15:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T21:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T21:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

My compromise was as follows: take DYK credit, because I put more time in sourcing "her" than in most of my stub+ DYKs. But I removed her from the official opera DYK (where I add when they appear). What do you think of the witch of Pungo? Removed from the Main page, TFA on Halloween of 2010, because of close paraphrasing, then improved, nominated for a second chance, but rejected. Teh witch was pardoned, and a day made in her name 10 July. A gouvernor restored her good name in 2006, 300 years after she was "ducked". I don't think I want to stress the TFA process with another request. What else could we do to keep her memory alive? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T21:51:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T21:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:07:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T21:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can see why you feel more than a little short-changed. In fact, it all sounds to me like a bit of a trial. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:07:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T21:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T22:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

We lost PumpkinSky over that, twice, - won't forget. At least he's alive, more than we can say about my friend who welcomed him on a return, in the sky with diamonds, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-04-05T22:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A great palindrome but also a tax-efficient scheme, apparently… I just love the way that the BBC reports "Mossack Fonseca says it has operated beyond reproach for 40 years and never been accused or charged with criminal wrong-doing". Err, yes, well that'll be because for 40 years no one had proof of what they were up to, and now they do, they've been reproached! JezGrove (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T21:08:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:08:00.000Z-A_man_a_plan_a_canal_\u2013_Panama","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T21:24:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Mossack Fonseca" sounds to me more like some outrageously hot soca toaster. But if it's good enough for Ian Donald Cameron, it's damn well good enough for me!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 4 April 2016 (UTC) "Tax Havana haven!! Arriba, Arriba!!" ... hit it Aldo Offshore Top Rate Ranks!![reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T21:24:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T21:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

According to the pundits, the days of the super-rich hiding their ill-gotten gains offshore are over, but personally I think they're more likely to be just, errr, numbered, and that as usual they'll be havin' a laugh at our expense. JezGrove (talk) 21:55, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T21:55:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:55:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T21:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:09:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

"groan" (.... and the days of the calendar are also numbered, so I'm told). I guess folks like Smiffy will soon be exposed..... tee-hee. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T22:09:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:09:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T21:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

And I thought not paying your taxes was fine and dandy ... well, provided you're not guilty of anything heinous like being poor. JezGrove (talk) 22:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:33:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:01:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yikes! Did someone mention Cameron?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T22:33:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:33:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2016-04-04T22:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, when I won the lottery that first time, I was advised to place my millions in an off - shore bank. So I did. Oh how we laughed Irondome (talk) 22:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-04T22:50:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Irondome-2016-04-04T22:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-04T22:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

JezGrove, You Can Say That Again. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:01:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-04T22:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-05T22:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Great clip! When Cameron says he's got nothing stashed off-shore, does that mean it's all in Switzerland? JezGrove (talk) 22:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T22:20:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-05T22:20:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-05T22:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

He just means he's never heard of Robert Louis Stevenson. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-05T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-05T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-06T09:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Let's hope Corbyn asks him to check his long johns for silver at PMQs tomorrow, then! According to the BBC: "In a cartoon entitled 'Offshore' in the [Telegraph], the artist Adams depicts Mr Cameron stood on a tiny desert island being circled by sharks. A similar cartoon by the Times's Peter Brookes sees Mr Cameron as Long John Silver being told by a parrot Jeremy Corbyn: 'You haven't got a leg to stand on, mate!'" JezGrove (talk) 09:30, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-06T09:30:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-06T09:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-05T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Check long johns for silver? EEng 21:58, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-09T21:58:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2016-04-09T21:58:00.000Z-A_man_a_plan_a_canal_\u2013_Panama","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-09T22:16:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-09T21:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Did someone say parrot? Yes, that's the one - Our Jezza is well in tune with his inner pirate. Do you need a hearing aid? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-09T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-09T22:16:00.000Z-EEng-2016-04-09T21:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was proud (but mystified) to find I'd been promoted to extended confirmed user status, as have many other respected editors (including yourself and Gerda). What dizzying heights had I reached? What wondrous vistas of editing awaited me? And what had I done to deserve such riches? - 30 days tenure, 300 edits, and the ability to edit in some contentious areas... I feel like I've just received my cycling badge after driving about 500,000 miles over 40 years, and can now join Guy Martin on his Wall of death - doing something I don't want to do with someone I don't want to meet. Harrumph over. Diolch. Taxi for Rob? Robevans123 (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T13:37:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-04-07T13:37:00.000Z-Congratulations_on_your_extended_promotion","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T13:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T13:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, curious, isn't it. I had assumed I was just getting a secret handshake (... if you know what I mean). But I think we have to rule that out). Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T13:49:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T13:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T13:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Language, Timothy! Robevans123 (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:30:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T13:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T14:36:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think our Jezza will probably want to add that bio article to his watchlist! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2016 (UTC) ... and here's the only "Wall of Death" I'm keen on. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T14:36:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T14:36:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T14:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fair enough. Robevans123 (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Robevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:50:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T14:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T20:13:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don’t tell me this upgrade doesn't entitle me to some ego-inflating medal that I can award myself (preferably with different coloured ribbons) for my efforts in improving human knowledge about everything from Circumzenithal arcs to Inflatable buildings? What about the poor souls creating WP pages for every cut-and-cover tunnel between London Kings Cross and Edinburgh Waverley – are they to get nothing?! (Sob….) JezGrove (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T20:13:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T20:13:00.000Z-Robevans123-2016-04-07T14:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T20:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T20:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, no barnstar. Instead just make do with a pornstar: [33]? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC) Wiki can be such a zoo.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T20:57:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T20:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's a blow - which will cost me a few quid, I dare say!JezGrove (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2016-04-07T21:23:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Me too yup. Wonder what that's all about. Perhaps a wiki knighthood from Jimbo soon?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:23, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2016-04-07T21:23:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:29:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2016-04-07T21:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

"Arise, Sir Jimmy"? ... has a certain ring to it, alas. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:29, 7 April 2016 (UTC) [34] [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:29:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2016-04-07T21:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Now, now. Jezza - no need to be so pessimistic. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:25:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T21:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

After seeing Dr. Blofeld's post I'm holding out for the full 'wiki Grand Duchyship’' or whatever, at least! I'm sure it will be well-deserved - after all my latest (proper!) WP page creation has had over 8,000 hits and it's only been up since late on Sunday - still, who's counting? (OK, well… some bot apparently - oh, and me, though I'm the first to admit the level of interest was very unexpected and unwarranted.) JezGrove (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T22:02:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T21:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T22:08:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Blimey! You kept that one a bit quiet! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2016 (UTC) I'm holding out for the full Wiki Grand Duckyship.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T22:08:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T22:08:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T22:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Are you sure you're not getting your 'Blair's mixed up and that really you're after TONY Blair's May 2009 Dan David Prize for "exceptional leadership and steadfast determination in helping to engineer conflict”? (I might have muddled that up myself, I get confused by long award citations.) I'd go for Tony – he won $1m of which he had to give 10% to charity. Lionel would bend over backwards to win a prize like that!JezGrove (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)JezGrove (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-07T22:34:00.000Z","author":"JezGrove","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:34:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2016-04-07T22:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-21T23:02:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

"'Ere mate, I 'ad that Minister for Cultcha in the back of me cab the uvver might, and 'is good lady Mistress Kate Whiplash, an' all. Blimey what a pair! Almost as much fun as when I 'ad that Lord Elton of Bog and 'is good Lady Furnish, with those two anonymous youngsters. Blimey, I 'ad to drive like the clappers to get 'em to the Supreme Court for some reason!!" Martinevans123 (talk) 23:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-21T23:02:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-21T23:02:00.000Z-JezGrove-2016-04-07T22:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I invite you to discuss the ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 03:59, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-12T03:59:00.000Z","author":"George Ho","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-George_Ho-2016-04-12T03:59:00.000Z-Talk:As_Long_as_You_Love_Me","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2016-04-12T09:25:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-04-12T03:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, George. I'd rather stick pins into my eyes. I'll try and drop by. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-12T09:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2016-04-12T09:25:00.000Z-George_Ho-2016-04-12T03:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->