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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Pagan rock has been reverted.
Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://www.myspace.com/thetell2012.
If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 18:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-23T18:11:00.000Z","author":"XLinkBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-XLinkBot-2010-08-23T18:11:00.000Z-August_2010","replies":[]}}-->

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Tell

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A tag has been placed on The Tell requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. CTJF83 chat 20:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-23T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Ctjf83","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ctjf83-2010-08-23T20:06:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_The_Tell","replies":[]}}-->

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. CTJF83 chat 20:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-23T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Ctjf83","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ctjf83-2010-08-23T20:17:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_The_Tell","replies":["c-Gogo_Dodo-2010-08-23T23:56:00.000Z-Ctjf83-2010-08-23T20:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Re your message: You may recreate the article if you can establish why the band meets the notability guidelines for inclusion on Wikipedia. For a band to be notable, for example, they must have had a charted single or album or been the subject of multiple news articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-23T23:56:00.000Z","author":"Gogo Dodo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gogo_Dodo-2010-08-23T23:56:00.000Z-Ctjf83-2010-08-23T20:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Subpage/Sandbox for Developing articles

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Hi,

If you wish to create a page while keeping it protected from speed deletion during development, you can create it as a subpage on your own user page until it is ready for publication. That way, you can tweak it and ad references bit by bit without worrying that admins will delete it before you have added critical information to establish notability. Then, when you are finished, you can publish it as a real article. Ebikeguy (talk) 00:15, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T00:15:00.000Z","author":"Ebikeguy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ebikeguy-2010-08-24T00:15:00.000Z-Subpage\/Sandbox_for_Developing_articles","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello. Concerning your contribution, Jouault, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jouault/history.html. As a copyright violation, Jouault appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Jouault has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While contributions are appreciated, Wikipedia must require all contributors to understand and comply with its copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. AdAstra reloaded (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T13:54:00.000Z","author":"AdAstra reloaded","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AdAstra_reloaded-2011-06-26T13:54:00.000Z-Copyright_problems_with_Jouault","replies":["c-JohnCD-2011-06-26T14:09:00.000Z-AdAstra_reloaded-2011-06-26T13:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

  • See Wikipedia:Copy-paste. Also, even if the copyright issue were resolved, it is not clear that this is suitable for Wikipedia: see WP:NOTDIR #2 - Genealogical entries. JohnCD (talk) 14:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T14:09:00.000Z","author":"JohnCD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JohnCD-2011-06-26T14:09:00.000Z-AdAstra_reloaded-2011-06-26T13:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->


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Hello. Concerning your contribution, Jouault, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jouault/history.html. As a copyright violation, Jouault appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Jouault has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While contributions are appreciated, Wikipedia must require all contributors to understand and comply with its copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. AdAstra reloaded (talk) 14:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T14:19:00.000Z","author":"AdAstra reloaded","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AdAstra_reloaded-2011-06-26T14:19:00.000Z-Copyright_problems_with_Jouault_2","replies":[]}}-->

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Warning: Do not just copy from elsewhere

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Your addition has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. AdAstra reloaded (talk) 14:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T14:19:00.000Z","author":"AdAstra reloaded","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AdAstra_reloaded-2011-06-26T14:19:00.000Z-Warning:_Do_not_just_copy_from_elsewhere","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, MarcusLeDain. You have new messages at JohnCD's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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Copyright: we cannot accept mere assertion of permission, because we have no way to know that someone on the end of a wire is who he says he is, and because release to Wikipedia involves more than just permission to reproduce - it permits readers to copy, modify and re-use the material for any purpose, including commercial. So it is essential that the copyright holder understands and agrees to the license terms, and the procedure explained in WP:Donating copyrighted materials has to be followed.

However, often it is not worth doing that, because material written for other purposes is frequently unsuitable for an encyclopedia article.

Notability: as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is selective about article subjects: it is not a list of everything. The criterion used is called notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people unconnected with the subject thought it important and significant enough to write substantial comment on?

If the focus of your article is to be the Jouault family, then you will have to show that the family meets that requirement. If there is an individual member who is notable, the article should be about him or her. Unless the notability condition is satisfied, a simple genealogical list is not considered to be a suitable subject - see particularly entry #2 "Genealogical entries" in WP:NOTDIR, which is itself part of the rather long list WP:What Wikipedia is not by which we try to keep Wikipedia on course as an encyclopedia.

There is good general advice about contributing at WP:Your first article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T16:52:00.000Z","author":"JohnCD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JohnCD-2011-06-26T16:52:00.000Z-Copyright_and_notability","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you for the Barnstar!

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Tis much appreciated. Cheers, Ebikeguy (talk) 20:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-24T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Ebikeguy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ebikeguy-2011-07-24T20:50:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_the_Barnstar!","replies":[]}}-->

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Your use of sources

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I've been reviewing your edits and you really do need to read WP:VERIFY and WP:RS. In particular, for academic articles few websites would be suitable. Certainly [1], the web page of the Beirut International Dental Meeeting, is not a reliable source for anything but the meeting. The New World Encyclopedia is not a reliable source, it takes our articles and gives them a Unification Church slant. This] isn't a reliable source either, and [2] is an old copy of our article on the subject and we never use our articles as sources. If you want to know if a source is suitable, you can ask me or at WP:RSN. Dougweller (talk) 17:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-06T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Dougweller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dougweller-2011-09-06T17:44:00.000Z-Your_use_of_sources","replies":[]}}-->

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Gerald of Wales

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Hi, Marcus. I can't understand the reason for the changes you made on that page, so I mentioned the matter at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales#Gerald of Wales. Please feel free to comment there if you want to. Andrew Dalby 11:35, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-22T11:35:00.000Z","author":"Andrew Dalby","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrew_Dalby-2012-04-22T11:35:00.000Z-Gerald_of_Wales","replies":["c-Andrew_Dalby-2012-04-22T17:34:00.000Z-Andrew_Dalby-2012-04-22T11:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"And"}}-->

Thanks for explaining so fully. And thanks for the bowl of strawberries! Yes, I must admit, I guessed it was your own family history.
I suggest that you keep in mind those Wikipedia rules, "no original research" and "cite your sources". You see, when your source for changing Gerald's name to "Le Gros" turned out to be a manuscript about a quite different "Le Gros", it made me think you're fibbing (just like the Windsors).
Maybe you aren't! But I have Gerald's autobiography at home (I have it in front of me right now) and he himself says, on the first page, that his father was William "de Barri". Well, his autobiography is a really good source. If you say it's wrong, you have to cite a good source too.
What I'm saying is that if you add unexpected information to Wikipedia, you need to be able to cite real sources that really support you. Otherwise, sooner or later, someone's sure to change it back, and your work will have been wasted.
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