There is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Batman looking to find an image for their banner, which I don't think they've created yet. They're not sure whether they should ask to use the Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics banner as a sub-group or not, but the one thing I am sure is that Image:TIA 2006ToyFair LEGO Batman Promo Dscn7058a.jpg is probably just about the only public domain image I can find that might be relevant. Considering you created the picture, I was wondering if you would know how to crop the external imagery to keep only the Batman character in the picture. I know that I personally have absolutely no ability in this regard, but have an impression you might. In any event, thanks for the attention. Badbilltucker 21:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-16T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Badbilltucker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Badbilltucker-2006-12-16T21:24:00.000Z-Image_for_Barman_banner","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-16T21:33:00.000Z-Badbilltucker-2006-12-16T21:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Any image certainly can be cropped. There may be more to it than that though. I can pop by the project and solicit what they want to do and see how I can help. ++Lar: t/c 21:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-16T21:33:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-16T21:33:00.000Z-Badbilltucker-2006-12-16T21:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

*emabarr-sesed cough* - brenneman 06:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z","author":"Aaron Brenneman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z-Is_this_one_DYN_worthy?","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-21T13:24:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z","c-Kylu-2006-12-21T23:09:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Maybe DYK worthy but DYN? NE-ver! Seriously, it easily qualifies, is high quality work in my view, and would get selected by me if I were picking and there weren't better earlier ones. Needs a hook... and it would be nice if it had an illustration, can you scare one up? Make a drawing? Nominate it if you haven't already. (I just got up, haven't checked yet) ++Lar: t/c 13:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T13:24:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-21T13:24:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T14:37:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-21T13:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll dust off the pen and ink tomorrow after work to make an image, and then I'll, ugh, nominate. Which means I have to read the instructions, I suppose. Hopefully not too Byzantine. - brenneman 14:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Aaron Brenneman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T14:37:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-21T13:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-21T14:44:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T14:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Titoxd beat you to it, it's already nommed. Nice collaboration. Needs pics though. Lots of pics. Check that site you were going to write an article on? Maybe they have something? ++Lar: t/c 14:44, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T14:44:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-21T14:44:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T14:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just dropping off a thanks for the DYK notice! Oh, I saw that article on Emily Helen Butterfield before it was DYK'd. Epousesquecido seems to have picked up on Wikipedia quickly, I hope he or she stays around! ~Kylu (u|t) 23:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-21T23:09:00.000Z","author":"Kylu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kylu-2006-12-21T23:09:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-21T06:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"u"}}-->

Ok, so Mujahedeen KOMPAK doesn't have an image, but this time I've got a "hook" as you say: Did you know that... Australian charity donations have been diverted to organisations that behead schoolgirls?
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In case it's not really really clear from that semi-hysterical posting I am in serious need of some wiki-love, I'm totaly fertummelt: People say "What is wrong with the world?" but it's not the world, it's the people. We do things like this to each other, and for what?

Aaron... I don't know what to say about the larger picture. That article is good, and it's a sad topic and it's a worthy nom. I would certainly pick it in turn. Will it in some small way help? Certainly. But we can't solve the world's problems by ourselves, all we can do is do our small bit to help. This project will make the world a better place, I really believe that. As to your need for wikilove... I'm starting to wonder about that whole wikilove thing, maybe it's not that healthy to seek complete validation that way. Good collegiality in our interactions maybe better than out and out love... but if you're on IRC sometime I would love to chat. Helps any? I dunno. Hang in there, don't let stuff get you down my friend... ++Lar: t/c 13:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-10T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2007-01-10T13:49:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2007-01-10T03:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aaron_Brenneman-2007-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Lar-2007-01-10T13:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ok, I think the fugue has passed. I went and got a zabaglione gelato and sat and watched err, people, walking in the park. It's been over thirty degrees tha last few days and "people" are wearing very little, I might add.

On a wiki-philosophical note there have been discussions on the Citizendium forums about the whole barnstar/DYK/wikilove thing. People need validation if they are going to keep working for free, and while I'm normally a bit more reserved I think that there is a place for the Phaedriel-style enthusiastic affection.

Not that I'm suggesting we do that of course. *insert manly grunting noises*

brenneman 00:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-11T00:57:00.000Z","author":"Aaron Brenneman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Aaron_Brenneman-2007-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Lar-2007-01-10T13:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2007-01-11T03:03:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2007-01-11T00:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Enthusiastic affection is good for the soul, Brenny. Now then... what were' these people wearing, exactly? (the juxtaposition is deliberate) It's over 30 degrees here too, but unfortunately, not much over, and that's in farenheit, not celsius. ++Lar: t/c 03:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-11T03:03:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lar-2007-01-11T03:03:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2007-01-11T00:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Cheers Lar, appreciate all the work you guys do at DYK. Nice one, Deizio talk 14:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-23T14:03:00.000Z","author":"Deiz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deiz-2006-12-23T14:03:00.000Z-DYK","replies":[],"displayName":"Deizio"}}-->

Hey there, Lar. I recently got involved in the DYK business, and I just added myself to the list of admins to seek when the page is backlogged. I have a question, though. Is there some template you use when crediting people for the DYK's? I couldn't find any crediting template anywhere, so I was wondering if there was a template for it, or if it is just text that you copy and paste from each talk page you visit. Thanks a lot for any help, Lar. Happy Holidays, too. =) Nishkid64 23:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-23T23:55:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-23T23:55:00.000Z-DYK_2","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-24T00:00:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-23T23:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Copy paste would be slow, so ... I have automation for it in my javascript. see User:Lar/DYK/monobook.js for the actual code, and user:Lar/moretabs/monobook.js and User:Lar/monobook.js for how it's hooked in. I can help you install it if you can't suss it out yourself, LMK. If you've modded your monobook stuff before it should be no big deal, if you haven't... maybe I should write instructions. Here is best to reply, I like to stay threaded... ++Lar: t/c 00:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-24T00:00:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-23T23:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T00:23:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-24T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not that great with javascripts, so I think I need some help here. I made user:Nishkid64/DYK/monobook.js. I tried tweaking it, but I really can't seem to understand what to do. Nishkid64 00:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T00:23:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-24T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T02:33:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T00:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

By the way, I reset the clock when I saw you hadn't. It originally said something like 05:30 or something, but I guess 06:12 is fine. Also, we'll get your DYK into Next Update after it is cleared. Nishkid64 02:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T02:33:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T02:33:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T00:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-24T02:59:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T02:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

In addition to the load, you have to make calls to add the functions to your menus for the right sort of pages (in your main monobook, you should have some calls that look like:

     addlilink(talkm,'javascript:updated_dyk()','DYK-Auth');
     addlilink(talkm,'javascript:updated_dyk_nom()','DYK-Nom');

(those are in a function that adds menu items to tabs for user talk pages, see my moretabs/monobook.js). I have done things in a way that is particularly confusing since I use two layers of functions and calls. I should clean that up so it's easier to use for others. Let me take a look and see if I can suggest precisely what to do. we have friends over so it won't be for a while. ++Lar: t/c 02:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-24T02:59:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T02:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T20:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-24T02:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Aite, I'm really confused now lol. I'll talk to you when you get back. Nishkid64 20:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T20:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-24T02:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Are you ever on IRC? that may actually be the fastest way to sort this out. I could just make changes to your monobook but would want to be live with you at the time. I think I will carve out a callable function that you just add to your main hooks. You COULD try calling mine, load http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lar/moretabs/monobook.js as well as the DYK one, and then in your main monobook.jsmm make sure you have a call to add_moreTabs(); like this:

/************
//MAIN
//************

addOnloadHook(Mainfast)
function Mainfast() 
{
    changemovetab();
    changelinks();
    addpurge();
    addtoolboxlinks();
    add_more_tabs();

}

window.onload = Main;
function Main() 
{
    addtoplink();
    LivePreviewInstall();
    if(addSinceTab)
    {addSinceTab();}
}
//END
//************

But that brings in WAY more than you need to do to get these three helper functions. Which is why I should write a function that is all one neat/tidy package. Maybe in a day or two... ++Lar: t/c 21:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-24T21:49:00.000Z-DYK_2","replies":[]}}-->

OK couldn't sleep, so I hacked out a standalone function add_DYK_tabs. Dunno if this will work, but it should. I looked in your monobook.js and ALL you have to do (everything else you already do, because you include that one lar/DYK/monobook.js) is change this:

function Mainfast() 
{
    userlogs();
    changelinks();
    navigationlinks();
    addtoolboxlinks();
}

to this:

function Mainfast() 
{
    userlogs();
    changelinks();
    navigationlinks();
    addtoolboxlinks();
    add_DYK_tabs();
}

... that is, add a call to add_DYK_tabs(); and you should see some new tabs on the article talk page while in edit, and on the user talk page while in edit. mouse over those tabs and you shold see the function invocations. LMK if that works... ++Lar: t/c 08:37, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T08:37:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-25T08:37:00.000Z-DYK_2","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-25T08:42:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T08:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Er, I see you changed your monobook to load YOUR OWN copy of ../DYK/monobook.js. That will work too, but you would also need to load your own copy of ../moretabs/monobook,js and where I told you to put add_DYK_tabs(), put add_more_tabs(); instead and you'll get the whole slew of tab functions I do. Hope that helps! ++Lar: t/c 08:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T08:42:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-25T08:42:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T08:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:37:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T08:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, I changed it to add_more_tabs(); and it totally messed up my sidebar; it basically duplicated everything. Also, the DYK buttons in the bottom toolbox are not shown. I don't go on IRC anymore, but I will go on if you will just tell me when you will be on. Nishkid64 23:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-26T23:37:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:37:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T08:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:41:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Actually, can we talk on AIM? I already added you and I'll try to get a hold of you, asap. Nishkid64 23:41, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-26T23:41:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:41:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-27T04:49:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Will look for you tomorrow, just got back form being away, sorry I missed you... ++Lar: t/c 04:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-27T04:49:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-26T23:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just to close the loop for those following along at home, this version of Nish's monobook works correctly using versions of my code then current. ++Lar: t/c 00:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T00:02:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-29T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_2","replies":[]}}-->

I'll not have any access for few days starting in about 2 hours, but I'll have a look through and see if I can pull some out for the next update. I mentioned to Blnguyen that I don't see a problem with doing the update yourself provided somebody else has moved your article into Next update (as you're only carrying out the manual process on behalf of the people who have chosen the articles). Not saying I'm going to chose your nom anyway, of course ;) Yomangani^talk 00:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T00:12:00.000Z","author":"Yomangani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yomangani-2006-12-24T00:12:00.000Z-DYK_3","replies":[]}}-->

Disappointed you were unsuccessful in your bid for Stewardship on Meta. All the best for Christmas and New Year!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RoscoHead (talk • contribs) 03:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T03:57:00.000Z","author":"RoscoHead","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RoscoHead-2006-12-24T03:57:00.000Z-Stewardship_Election","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-24T05:11:00.000Z-RoscoHead-2006-12-24T03:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you. I appreciated your support. ++Lar: t/c 05:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T05:11:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-24T05:11:00.000Z-RoscoHead-2006-12-24T03:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On December 24, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thornapple River, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Nishkid64 14:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-24T14:27:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-24T14:27:00.000Z-Your_article,_Thornapple_River,_was_selected_for_DYK!","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Thank you for your note. I have followed your advice and deleted the local file, and protected the page. - Mark 10:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Mark","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mark-2006-12-25T10:55:00.000Z-Re_Image:US_National_Christmas_Tree_1923.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

Protect the image, THEN add the protection template, THEN change the Main Page. In that order. – Gurch 11:18, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T11:18:00.000Z","author":"Gurch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:18:00.000Z-Sorry_if_I_sound_annoyed,_but...","replies":["c-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:21:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

And only that order. Again, sorry if I sound annoyed, but it's really not the sort of thing I want to wake up to on Christmas Day. Especially not when it happened the previous day as well. – Gurch 11:21, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T11:21:00.000Z","author":"Gurch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:21:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-25T11:25:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Feel free to be annoyed, I flubbed up badly. it was 2 AM ish but that's no excuse. ++Lar: t/c 11:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T11:25:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-25T11:25:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:35:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T11:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, it is... I shouldn't even be here, the other Main Page "incidents" (three this month alone) were nothing to do with you at all. It's just really starting to irk me now. After it happened yesterday I stormed over to WP:AN and told everyone this wasn't good enough; apparently I was "rude", and I'm scared to go back there now. Then I decided OK, no matter what this is NOT happening on Christmas Day, I sat there until 1 AM (my time), on Christmas Eve, checking and re-checking every picture, template, everything. (I did in fact discover that while the heavily-used Template:Currentdate was protected, the equally heavily-used Template:CURRENTDATE that redirects to it, used on Talk:Main Page, among other things, was not. So I guess some good came of it). Anyway, I went to sleep satisfied nothing was going to happen, woke up Christmas morning, turned on the computer, hit the Main Page and.... Yeah, OK, it was bad timing, but still. I guess I should go do something more festive now – Gurch 11:35, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T11:35:00.000Z","author":"Gurch","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:35:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-25T11:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-25T11:39:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am not mad you turned up here to berate me, because I DID forget... Some good will come of it... see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Shadowbot2, a bot to watch for this and scream for help if any one flubs. Happy holidays, Gurch, and thanks for caring. ++Lar: t/c 11:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T11:39:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-25T11:39:00.000Z-Gurch-2006-12-25T11:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Lar. Thank you for selecting my Christmas tree article for DYK on Christmas day. You've made this Christmas a special holiday for me. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy 2007 ! Take care. -- PFHLai 20:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-25T20:40:00.000Z","author":"PFHLai","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PFHLai-2006-12-25T20:40:00.000Z-DYK_on_Christmas_day","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-26T13:23:00.000Z-PFHLai-2006-12-25T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was pleased to pick it, very fitting article. I was not so pleased with myself for getting sloppy, the image was vandalised because I didn't properly protect it. All is right now, and the article is off the page, but it was embarassing for me! But that has nothign to do with you... thank you very much for sharing with us all that wonderful article. ++Lar: t/c 13:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-26T13:23:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-26T13:23:00.000Z-PFHLai-2006-12-25T20:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-PFHLai-2006-12-27T04:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-26T13:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry too much about the silly vandalism. This one was quickly fixed, long before I logged in yesterday. .... Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad that you like my article. :-) Take care. --PFHLai 04:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T04:44:00.000Z","author":"PFHLai","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PFHLai-2006-12-27T04:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-26T13:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've put together some thoughts at User:Friday/recall. This is in early stages right now so I understand if there's not really enough there for you to work with. But, feel free to have a look. As for clerking, not sure how you wanted to process, but maybe making a subpage for this recall petition is the way to go? Main comments, and endorses or opposes would go on the main page, and extended discuss would go on its talk page. I also don't know whether you were thinking of strictly an organizational role, or whether you would also read consensus and make a statement about whether the complaint has good cause. Anyway, have a look and respond as you will. Friday (talk) 19:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-26T19:28:00.000Z","author":"Friday","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Friday-2006-12-26T19:28:00.000Z-Recall","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello. Do you think Zaolzie article could be nominated to DYK ? It is about 2 years old but was lately completely rewritten by me. Thanks. - Darwinek 02:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T02:54:00.000Z","author":"Darwinek","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Darwinek-2006-12-27T02:54:00.000Z-WP:DYK","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-27T04:33:00.000Z-Darwinek-2006-12-27T02:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think technically it does not qualify. This version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zaolzie&oldid=93125551 is from december 9 and is not a stub. It certainly could be put up as a Good Article candidate but DYK is supposed to be for all new, or massively expanded, articles, and articles that were not stubs don't technically qualify. I am sorry. I think you did an awesome job on the rewrite, sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear. ++Lar: t/c 04:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-27T04:33:00.000Z-Darwinek-2006-12-27T02:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Darwinek-2006-12-27T10:28:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-27T04:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

No problemo :). I will nominate it for GA. Thanks. - Darwinek 10:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T10:28:00.000Z","author":"Darwinek","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Darwinek-2006-12-27T10:28:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-27T04:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hiya Lar. Thanks again for notifying me of the Bayajidda DYK a few days ago - it was a nice Christmas present. As I was making some minor changes to my talk page a few hours ago, I actually focused on the headline for a few moments, and it occurred to me that it could be looked on as a violation of the Ownership of articles policy. After all, even though I created Bayajidda, and made all the edits as of now, it isn't my article - it's Wikipedia's article. I just happen to be the primary contributor.

Because of this, could I recommend that you consider changing the headline (I think you add it manually, since I see no sign of a header at {{UpdatedDYK}}) to something like "An article you started, Bayajidda, was selected for DYK!"? Picaroon 05:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T05:13:00.000Z","author":"Picaroon9288","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T05:13:00.000Z-DYK_notification_headline","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-27T12:01:00.000Z-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T05:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's in my automation, which can be found at User:Lar/DYK/monobook.js... good point, I have a change along those lines. Thanks for raising the issue. ++Lar: t/c 12:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-27T12:01:00.000Z-Picaroon9288-2006-12-27T05:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 12:04, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T12:04:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-27T12:04:00.000Z-An_article_which_you_started,_or_significantly_expanded,_MumbleArticle,_was_sele","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you for your contributions! Nishkid64 21:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-27T21:28:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-27T21:28:00.000Z-DYK!","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Hi Lar :-) Thanks for your congrats and support. Going to do some editing for a few days to relax before I jump into ArbCom. Going to be an interesting road ahead, for sure! --FloNight 14:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T14:33:00.000Z","author":"FloNight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FloNight-2006-12-28T14:33:00.000Z-Your_congrats","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Lar. What exactly is the purpose of clerking Friday's recall? If you're not the one making the decision on whether it's valid (as I had assumed), then what are you doing aside from making a long official-looking page? -- SCZenz 18:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T18:38:00.000Z","author":"SCZenz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SCZenz-2006-12-28T18:38:00.000Z-Recall_clerking","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T18:44:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T18:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

They are Friday's criteria after all. I will, once I know what they are, make a trial determination for Friday, if desired, but it ultimately is Friday's call and Friday can over turn me... The clerk function is a neatening and tidying function (just as with the more formal ArbCom clerking) not a deciding one. It's a clerk, not a judgeship. If the community doesn't like how Friday decides, they can file an RfAr or RfC on their own, that's the check/balance that is always there (so far that never happened, this process got a nice neat tidy outcome in a collegial way). To say that I'm just making a long and official looking page is perhaps unkind, but not far off the mark. :) More accurate would be to say I am making a shorter and more official looking page (that serves as an archive, just as a deletion discussion does)... :) The current talk page is a bit of a mess, hmm? See Bunchograpes's recall or Crzrussians' recall, (I gave the links), to see what the end result is. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 18:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T18:44:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T18:44:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T18:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-SCZenz-2006-12-28T19:01:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T18:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am worried that you're creating bureaucracy rather than adding content. The existing page was pretty readable, at least in the sense that it was possible to skim (or not skim) sections with various types of well-labeled info as anyone saw fit. But now you have an official format for recall pages that you've used twice, and I worry that soon we'll have guidelines and an elected clerk position and so on. I also note that Friday has written criteria already. -- SCZenz 19:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T19:01:00.000Z","author":"SCZenz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-SCZenz-2006-12-28T19:01:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T18:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T19:11:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T19:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

I saw them, but I can't actually apply them in a meaningful way yet to those folks, which I've asked Friday about. This is a voluntary process and I'd oppose any formalisation of it into rules that were somehow imposed on anyone. But I think some structure is useful. And Friday asked me to clerk it. The tracking of who is valid and who isn't should be separated from the comments and so forth in my view. Note that the category itself is up for deletion, it just happened. You may want to voice your views there too. I am certainly leery of bureacracy, which concern came up the last two times I did this too... ++Lar: t/c 19:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T19:11:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T19:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-SCZenz-2006-12-28T22:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T19:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fair enough, I just wanted to mention that concern, mostly because making small comments emphasizing the need to avoid something is much easier than derailing it when it starts to happen. The recall idea can be useful if it's handled sanely, and it would seem for the most part that you're doing a good job in making sure that happens. -- SCZenz 22:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T22:44:00.000Z","author":"SCZenz","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-SCZenz-2006-12-28T22:44:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T19:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T23:06:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

And fair enough in turn. Forewarned is half an octopus, after all. Totally agree that avoiding process is goodness. I'm just lazy and hate making pages up from scratch. :) ++Lar: t/c 23:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T23:06:00.000Z-SCZenz-2006-12-28T22:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Is that some kind of koan? - brenneman 05:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z","author":"Aaron Brenneman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z-Paint_the_house?","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-29T05:07:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z","c-Light_current-2006-12-30T21:58:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Brenny! er, no? But maybe this is: "Children, I have come here like the rest of you... to hear what I have to say." --Sojourner Truth ++Lar: t/c 05:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T05:07:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-29T05:07:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your clerking of the process to recall Friday. It seems you did a completely fair job on it and I have no complaints. If we had realised that we did not have sufficient legit supportere, then of course we would not have proceeded. Maybe everyone can learn a little from this. I have--Light current 21:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T21:58:00.000Z","author":"Light current","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Light_current-2006-12-30T21:58:00.000Z-Aaron_Brenneman-2006-12-29T05:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

How is Image:Laurel1.jpg even relevant to DYK? None of the items even match this picture. Nishkid64 18:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T18:52:00.000Z-DYK_Image","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T19:16:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T18:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

It's an image from the lead article. That article was picked a bit hurridly, to be sure, as it had been 17 hours, and the lead that was there was not a very good hook... the other article that even HAD an image, the image was copyvio. That was the first article I could find that had any kind of image. A bit of a stretch though. Feel free to change things around if need be. Did I forget to give the "pictured" bit??? oops! ++Lar: t/c 19:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T19:16:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T19:16:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T18:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T20:50:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T19:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

PS "what links here" for the image did show its usage, but ya, I goofed in not doing the (pictured) thing. Sorry for the confusion and thanks to whoever found a better one. Are you sorted with your script automation now or ? ++Lar: t/c 20:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T20:50:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T19:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:16:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

No I left the script stuff alone for now. Also, I was the one who went to Dec 25 to find another picture lol. Anyway, what are you planning to do with the two articles? I rewrote the first DYK at next update, and I think that's fine, but what's the problem with the second one? I know it's not that long, but besides the image, what was the problem with that? Nishkid64 21:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:16:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T20:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:17:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

By the way, can you go on AIM? I added "larrypieniazek" already. Nishkid64 21:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:17:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T21:22:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Alexander Mantashev - the hook as it was had issues, those two people were not notable, I didn't think, or at least the hook didn't say why. the hook now is fine if less "exciting", and I support it going in on the next update. Max Reichpietsch - we (at least formerly) can't have an image in an article on DYK that has problems. The article itself is fine but there was an older long standing policy that out and out copyvio (text or image) wasn't used... had to be cleared up first. Once that's sorted, the article's fine. Hope that helps, thanks for taking the load on all these updates you've been doing lately! ++Lar: t/c 21:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T21:22:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-28T21:24:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T21:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

PS I'm on AIM now, email me your nick? thanks! ++Lar: t/c 21:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-28T21:24:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:36:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T21:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

E-mail sent, and thanks for clearing up all that business. =) Nishkid64 21:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-28T21:36:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-28T21:36:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-28T21:24:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

I did tell you this earlier this evening - you see Kelly's mates are just too powerful [1] who will be the next to stand up to her I wonder. Giano 01:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T01:27:00.000Z","author":"Giano II","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Giano_II-2006-12-29T01:27:00.000Z-Bye_Lar!","replies":[],"displayName":"Giano"}}-->

Actually, the article looks like a valid stub now. I'll give it a more specific stub tag. --Coredesat 01:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T01:37:00.000Z","author":"Coredesat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coredesat-2006-12-29T01:37:00.000Z-Google_Patents","replies":[],"displayName":"Core"}}-->

On December 29, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Whites Bridge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 21:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-29T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-29T21:14:00.000Z-An_article_which_you_started,_or_significantly_expanded,_Whites_Bridge,_was_sele","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Sorry to bother you again, but it seems that the DYK buttons removed my warning buttons from the VoA script. The warning buttons were in place of the DYK buttons before, and they had the t1, t2, t3, blocked, etc. warnings. Is there anyway to have both at the top of the editing page? Nishkid64 00:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T00:09:00.000Z-DYK_automation_troubles","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T00:13:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T00:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Strangely enough, the DYK messages and the warning messages show up when I am editing a user talk page that has not been edited before. Nishkid64 00:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T00:13:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T00:09:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

The problem is that apparently when you add to a tab, you have to add ALL the functions you want to add to that tab at once, I think. The add_DYK_tabs() function is adding functions to a tab named "talk messages". And so is VOA's code. Whoever adds last wins. My way around that was to use a different function that adds all of them at once. It is called add_more_tabs(). Try that. If not, you may have to actually write your own function to add all the functions you want. OR you could have a different tab maybe instead of one named "talk messages" perhaps. LMK if that makes sense or not. ++Lar: t/c 00:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T00:29:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-30T00:29:00.000Z-DYK_automation_troubles","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:11:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T00:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I kinda understand what you're saying. It's just that...I don't know how to fix it. Your tab is talk messages while VOA's is {messages}. Wouldn't that make em different? Nishkid64 02:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T02:11:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:11:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T00:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-30T02:18:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

what really matters is the label given the tab internally, not the displayed label... that is, does he use 'talkm'? a fragment...

  if (document.title.indexOf("Editing User talk:") != -1)
    {
      addlimenu(tabs, 'Talk messages', 'talkm');
      var talkm = document.getElementById('talkm').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0];

... I will check later. ++Lar: t/c 02:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T02:18:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-30T02:18:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:23:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T02:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay, thanks. Appreciate it. =) Nishkid64 02:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:23:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T02:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-30T13:42:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Try it now. I changed 'talkm' to a different variable, hopefully unique. I can't quite find which of VoA's code chunks was hanging functions on that tab so am not totally sure it's a fix. LMK. ++Lar: t/c 13:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T13:42:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-30T13:42:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T02:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T19:56:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T13:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

hmm...doesn't seem to work. Also, thanks for adding the dyk-no sign thing. Nishkid64 19:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T19:56:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T19:56:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-30T13:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-71.205.16.129-2006-12-30T22:45:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T19:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

ok, will check when I get back... (not logged in)... 71.205.16.129 22:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T22:45:00.000Z","author":"71.205.16.129","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-71.205.16.129-2006-12-30T22:45:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-30T19:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Status: so where are we at? did the new tab show up at all? or it showed up but didn't work? Let me know. Long term I think finding a way to hang new functions on an existing tab owuld be a good thing but I'm not necessarily that skilled yet... ++Lar: t/c 01:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T01:40:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-31T01:40:00.000Z-DYK_automation_troubles","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T02:38:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-31T01:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

It looks like it works now. =) Of course, I'm on a laptop now, so I don't know if it's really fixed or my computer sucks. :-P Thanks, Lar. Btw, I've congratulated myself for DYK 3 or 4 times so far. Lol =) Nishkid64 02:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T02:38:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T02:38:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-31T01:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T21:53:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T02:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

What are the odds that it doesn't work on my computer...God...lol. Whatever, just leave it. I can live with this now lol. Thanks for all, Lar. =) Nishkid64 21:53, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T21:53:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2006-12-31T02:38:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

So it doesn't? Well, I think I have a fix, maybe, based on some stuff VoiceOfAll told me. I need to hack for a while so it may be a few days. ++Lar: t/c 21:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T21:56:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-31T21:56:00.000Z-DYK_automation_troubles","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2007-01-01T01:59:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-31T21:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think it's just my computer. Why would it work on my laptop, but not on my PC? Nishkid64 01:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-01T01:59:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2007-01-01T01:59:00.000Z-Lar-2006-12-31T21:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lar-2007-01-01T14:10:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2007-01-01T01:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Try doing purges and cntl-alt-r's on every monobook page you use. your computer might still have older versions cached while your laptop loaded a newer version... that's al I can think of. Are both machines running the same version of firefox? Thanks. PS , happy new year! ++Lar: t/c 14:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-01T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lar-2007-01-01T14:10:00.000Z-Nishkid64-2007-01-01T01:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nishkid64-2007-01-04T03:51:00.000Z-Lar-2007-01-01T14:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry for the belated response. Happy New year, and I think my laptop is running the latest version, while I'm running 1.5 on this one. I'll see what I can do. Nishkid64 03:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-04T03:51:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2007-01-04T03:51:00.000Z-Lar-2007-01-01T14:10:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->

Thank you for placing the article on St. Stephen Coleman Street on DYK. Had I logged into Wikipedia that day and seen a reference to my article on the main page, I would have fallen off my chair. I started contributing to Wikipedia this month, so find your action very encouraging. (Mark C Grant 13:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Mark C Grant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mark_C_Grant-2006-12-30T13:08:00.000Z-DYK_4","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-30T13:22:00.000Z-Mark_C_Grant-2006-12-30T13:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Glad to hear it! That's the point of DYK, to recognise valuable contributions. Please keep helping make Wikipedia a better resource, see you around! ++Lar: t/c 13:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-30T13:22:00.000Z-Mark_C_Grant-2006-12-30T13:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

FYI, I've just sent you an email requesting approval. Thanks, alphachimp. 16:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-30T16:34:00.000Z","author":"Alphachimp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alphachimp-2006-12-30T16:34:00.000Z-IRC","replies":["c-Lar-2006-12-31T01:35:00.000Z-Alphachimp-2006-12-30T16:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"alphachimp."}}-->

Should be sorted now, please let me know if there are other things... ++Lar: t/c 01:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Lar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lar-2006-12-31T01:35:00.000Z-Alphachimp-2006-12-30T16:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry, I meant to say month, I'm not sure why I said "week." But now that I look at it, it was early this month, not last month, so I'm doubly wrong. I'll just paste the pertinent portion of the contribs bellow for you (of course, feel free to remove it upon glancing, it lengthy). Regards, El_C 04:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-31T04:26:00.000Z","author":"El C","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-El_C-2006-12-31T04:26:00.000Z-150","replies":[],"displayName":"El_C"}}-->

On January 1, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Brown truss, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 23:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-01T23:37:00.000Z","author":"Nishkid64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nishkid64-2007-01-01T23:37:00.000Z-An_article_which_you_started,_or_significantly_expanded,_Brown_truss,_was_select","replies":[],"displayName":"Nishkid"}}-->