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Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

Jake Wartenberg

Emperor • Viridian Bovary

Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.

Technical news

The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.

Miscellaneous

The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.

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Epstein

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Hi there, sorry for the confusion. I can reassure you that I do not believe any Epstein conspiracy theories- nor would I ever impose my personal views onto Wikipedia if I did- but was just trying to point out the ruling of what caused his death was a source of great controversy. I also thought pointing that out would be okay since the title of the article was "Death of Jeffrey Epstein", not "Suicide of", which therefore made me think Wikipedia editors who were antecedent to myself had sought to preserve ambiguity for the sake of neutrality, as it were. --222.152.255.9 (talk) 02:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-22T02:08:00.000Z","author":"222.152.255.9","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T02:08:00.000Z-Epstein","replies":["c-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T10:50:00.000Z-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T02:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, are you talking about these edits? Justi yaya 10:50, 22 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-22T10:50:00.000Z","author":"Justiyaya","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T10:50:00.000Z-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T02:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T11:40:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T10:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Just"}}-->

Yes I am. 222.152.255.9 (talk) 11:40, 22 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-22T11:40:00.000Z","author":"222.152.255.9","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T11:40:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T10:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T12:32:00.000Z-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T11:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

The user who reverted was PEIsquirrel, who reverted on Special:Diff/1043523728, not me. Justi yaya 12:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-22T12:32:00.000Z","author":"Justiyaya","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T12:32:00.000Z-222.152.255.9-2021-09-22T11:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-PEIsquirrel-2021-09-22T14:39:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T12:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Just"}}-->

Thanks for the ping. I reverted because, as I understand it, that infobox field is for the officially reported cause of death only, not supplemental information. We have to be careful when writing about conspiracy theories that we don't give undue prominence to fringe theories, and conspiracy theories about Epstein's death are already treated pretty appropriately in his biography. Those conspiracy theories are really no more prominent than conspiracies about other famous people's sudden deaths, but as examples none of these biographies mention anything other than the official or widely-reported cause of death in the biography's infobox: John Lennon ("gunshot wounds"), Kurt Cobain ("suicide by gunshot"), Diana, Princess of Wales ("car crash"), and the death which probably led to the most prominent and famous conspiracies of anyone, John F. Kennedy ("assassination by gunshot"). Conspiracy theories about Epstein's death seem to us to have gained more attention because of our recentism bias, and also because of an internet meme (which appropriately has a separate article), but even if some YouTubers with significant followings started to write about theories that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by an impersonator, we would not update McCartney's biography to include that information. Ivanvector's squirrel (^trees/_nuts) 14:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-22T14:39:00.000Z","author":"PEIsquirrel","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-PEIsquirrel-2021-09-22T14:39:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-22T12:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ivanvector's squirrel"}}-->

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English grammar

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Catholic Voices continued to train [VERB] ... and organising [NOT A VERB] debates.

So I put this right. Perhaps send this for comment by a British English native group if you are still unsure as to correct usage. Thanks. 212.236.40.78 (talk) 06:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-24T06:36:00.000Z","author":"212.236.40.78","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-212.236.40.78-2021-09-24T06:36:00.000Z-English_grammar","replies":["c-FormalDude-2021-09-24T06:39:00.000Z-212.236.40.78-2021-09-24T06:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

You're right, but that wasn't the nicest edit summary. ––FormalDude talk 06:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-24T06:39:00.000Z","author":"FormalDude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FormalDude-2021-09-24T06:39:00.000Z-212.236.40.78-2021-09-24T06:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justiyaya-2021-09-24T06:41:00.000Z-FormalDude-2021-09-24T06:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oops, yea you're right... Read the part after the citation and thought it didn't make any sense, turned out it did... sorry about that. Justi yaya 06:41, 24 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-24T06:41:00.000Z","author":"Justiyaya","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Justiyaya-2021-09-24T06:41:00.000Z-FormalDude-2021-09-24T06:39:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Just"}}-->

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The Signpost: 26 September 2021

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Trouted

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Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Thanks for being an awesome Wikipedia rollbacker! 🎉🎉🎉 111.65.71.215 (talk) 09:14, 28 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-28T09:14:00.000Z","author":"111.65.71.215","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-111.65.71.215-2021-09-28T09:14:00.000Z-Trouted","replies":["c-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:47:00.000Z-111.65.71.215-2021-09-28T09:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh thanks... consider creating an account, so you can get user rights too. Justi yaya 12:47, 28 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-28T12:47:00.000Z","author":"Justiyaya","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:47:00.000Z-111.65.71.215-2021-09-28T09:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:49:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Just"}}-->

Note: You can only get user rights after you meet the requirements for the specific flag Justi yaya 12:49, 28 September 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-28T12:49:00.000Z","author":"Justiyaya","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:49:00.000Z-Justiyaya-2021-09-28T12:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Just"}}-->