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I noticed you recently expanded Simeon Jocelyn, thanks. Thought I'd point out, if you didn't know, there was another pair of notable New England abolitionists from the Joslyn family: Hezekiah Joslyn and his daughter, Matilda Joslyn Gage. I don't have hard evidence of this, but chances are they were related, as I believe many of the New England Joslyns go back to Guilford, Connecticut roots. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-18T22:26:00.000Z","author":"Bri","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bri-2020-04-18T22:26:00.000Z-Simeon_Jocelyn","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2020-04-20T11:07:00.000Z-Bri-2020-04-18T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Bri: Thanks for this, I didn't know. Their friendship with Samuel May supports that it was the sane family. I've done some work on them. deisenbe (talk) 11:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-20T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-04-20T11:07:00.000Z-Bri-2020-04-18T22:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I hate to think that I am creating extra work for you rather than helping you out on William G. Allen. We have different styles, etc. and it looks like there's a bit of confusion about what I wrote vs. you or someone else, re: {{who}} tag. Maybe I should back out. I don't want to add to your stress. Calm is my m.o. / goal these days.

You know where to find me when I can help out with something. Besides, it looks like you are making good strides and you have a nice timeline to work at it.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-22T22:49:00.000Z","author":"CaroleHenson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CaroleHenson-2020-04-22T22:49:00.000Z-William_G._Allen","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi there, I noticed that you created Category:African-Americans obtaining higher education before 1865. I think it violates Wikipedia:ARBITRARYCAT and WP:NONDEF. I wanted to bring this to you before starting the nomination process. What do you think?--User:Namiba 12:31, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Namiba-2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z-Recent_Category","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2020-05-05T13:41:00.000Z-Namiba-2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z","c-Namiba-2020-05-07T15:40:00.000Z-Namiba-2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}-->

1. The year 1865 is not arbitrary; it is the year of the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, under which slavery was prohibited, marking a fundamental change in the role of African-Americans in the country.
2. The higher education is a defining characteristic mentioned pretty universally by the sources. An African American goung to college was pretty unusual in that period. See the article in note 2 of George Boyer Vashon.
3. Thanks for checking. deisenbe (talk) 13:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T13:41:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-05-05T13:41:00.000Z-Namiba-2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for your response. I think the information would be better placed in a list than a category but I don't feel strongly enough to nominate for deletion.--User:Namiba 15:40, 7 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-07T15:40:00.000Z","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Namiba-2020-05-07T15:40:00.000Z-Namiba-2020-05-05T12:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}-->

You recent edits on Wilmington, North Carolina have a named reference ("Betrayed2") with no actual reference. Not sure if a simple omission or if it's something else. MartinezMD (talk) 15:38, 7 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-07T15:38:00.000Z","author":"MartinezMD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MartinezMD-2020-05-07T15:38:00.000Z-Missing_ref","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2020-05-07T16:06:00.000Z-MartinezMD-2020-05-07T15:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fixed. deisenbe (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-07T16:06:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-05-07T16:06:00.000Z-MartinezMD-2020-05-07T15:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Category:Biblical place names in New York (state) has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor ^(talk) 16:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-16T16:53:00.000Z","author":"DexDor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DexDor-2020-05-16T16:53:00.000Z-Category:Biblical_place_names_in_New_York_(state)_has_been_nominated_for_deletio","replies":["c-RevelationDirect-2020-05-18T00:20:00.000Z-DexDor-2020-05-16T16:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Whatever our disagreement about WP:DEFINING in the category space, I do hope you consider writing about place name etymologies in some separate articles which are definitely WP:NOTABLE. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 18 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-18T00:20:00.000Z","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-2020-05-18T00:20:00.000Z-DexDor-2020-05-16T16:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2020-05-18T10:38:00.000Z-RevelationDirect-2020-05-18T00:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

User:RevelationDirect Thanks for the encouragement, but I am not going to do so if my efforts on the topic up to now (the categories) are destroyed, for reasons I quite disagree with. That would be very discouraging.

How would a user of Wikipedia be harmed, misled, or misinformed, if they are allowed to stand?deisenbe (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-18T10:38:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-05-18T10:38:00.000Z-RevelationDirect-2020-05-18T00:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Great work with your recent edits. I see you've been interested in the article since 2017 and then you came back recently to add the section on social distancing. I liked your comment, "Asimov suggests that to live in this way is unwise; it leads to the violence which is the novel's point of departure."

I wonder if this book is going to get more attention in the coming weeks and months!

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That's my goal. You heard it here first. deisenbe (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-29T18:31:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-05-29T18:31:00.000Z-Agradman-2020-05-29T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I've posted a question about a small detail in the Dixon article, which you edited a while back. I'd be interested if you have any thoughts. No rush. Talk:Thomas Dixon Jr. Milpack (talk) 17:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-17T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Milpack","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Milpack-2020-06-17T17:09:00.000Z-Thomas_Dixon_Jr.","replies":[]}}-->

Do you know of a list of cities, towns, schools, buildings, streets named for Confederates? Do you know of some reliable sources?Jacona (talk) 14:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-22T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Jacona","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jacona-2020-06-22T14:47:00.000Z-Looking_for_a_list","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2020-06-22T18:30:00.000Z-Jacona-2020-06-22T14:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

All I know is List of Confederate monuments and memorials. deisenbe (talk) 18:30, 22 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-22T18:30:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2020-06-22T18:30:00.000Z-Jacona-2020-06-22T14:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Deisenbe,

Thank you for your interest and contributions to WikiLoop Battlefield. We are holding a voting for proposed new name. We would like to invite you to this voting. The voting is held at m:WikiProject_WikiLoop/New_name_vote and ends on July 13th 00:00 UTC.

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Hi Deisenbe! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Renaming a category, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread. The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} here on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:03, 8 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-08T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Muninnbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muninnbot-2020-05-08T19:03:00.000Z-Your_thread_has_been_archived","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Deisenbe! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Problem with citation template, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread. The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} here on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-25T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Muninnbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muninnbot-2020-05-25T19:01:00.000Z-Your_thread_has_been_archived_2","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Deisenbe! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Fix table formatting, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread. The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} here on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Muninnbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muninnbot-2020-06-13T19:01:00.000Z-Your_thread_has_been_archived_3","replies":[]}}-->

I have reverted your move and removal of redirect on Stonewall Jackson Middle School. Your edit summary does not make it clear why you feel that the page is misleading or too difficult to fix with normal approaches (e.g., moving the page to a title such as Stonewall Jackson Middle School (Hanover County, Virigina) and turning the original page into a disambiguation page). If you believe that a page is problematic or should be deleted, please use the deletion process. —Ost (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-09T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Ost316","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ost316-2020-07-09T14:34:00.000Z-Stonewall_Jackson_Middle_School","replies":[],"displayName":"Ost"}}-->