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Hey, I have been blocked as a result I can not make an edit. Counting on you Gyanford (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230207125400","author":"Gyanford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gyanford-20230207125400-Block_exemption","replies":["c-Zzuuzz-20230207131900-Gyanford-20230207125400"]}}-->

@Gyanford: I've granted you WP:IPBE for 6 months. If you need it after that, just ask again. See the policy for details. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 13:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230207131900","author":"Zzuuzz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zzuuzz-20230207131900-Gyanford-20230207125400","replies":["c-Gyanford-20230207153400-Zzuuzz-20230207131900"]}}-->

Alright, thank you Gyanford (talk) 15:34, 7 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230207153400","author":"Gyanford","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gyanford-20230207153400-Zzuuzz-20230207131900","replies":[]}}-->

Greetings. On 9 February 2023, you added this information in the European Super League article. However, it seems that in citing The Guardian article (with this link) you posted up its title as "European Super League’s new vision: up to 80 teams and all places on merit," while, in fact, the article carries the title "‘Alternative reality’: European Super League’s new vision greeted with scorn." Could you explain this, please? Am I missing something? -The Gnome (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230209175900","author":"The Gnome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Gnome-20230209175900-False_title_in_cited_source","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230209181000-The_Gnome-20230209175900"]}}-->

It seems the Guardian edited its title after publishing. You can see the original title here. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 18:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230209181000","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230209181000-The_Gnome-20230209175900","replies":[]}}-->

hehe, cat

Imoutofchoices (talk) 05:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230214050400","author":"Imoutofchoices","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Imoutofchoices-20230214050400-A_kitten_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->

	External Links Barnstar
	Identifying the links an IP adds onto Wikipedia (154.180.13.109) seems fine instead of spam. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:56, 17 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230217215600","author":"Iggy the Swan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iggy_the_Swan-20230217215600-External_Links_Barnstar","replies":[],"displayName":"Iggy"}}-->

On 20 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edward B. Barry, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rear Admiral Edward B. Barry was once demerited for "very disorderly humming"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward B. Barry. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Edward B. Barry), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Valereee (talk) 00:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230220000300","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Valereee-20230220000300-DYK_for_Edward_B._Barry","replies":[]}}-->

The Barnstar of Good Humor

For your closing comment on the ITN/C nom of the US-Mexico border crisis. I found that a great rendition of that well-known Steamed Hams Simpsons quote. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230222194900","author":"Blaze Wolf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blaze_Wolf-20230222194900-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[],"displayName":"Blaze\u00a0Wolf"}}-->

File:Tannenberg Bold.png The effect seems trivial but just out of curiosity:

1. Why did the bot do anything with a file that I had already reduced to 379 × 303 (17 KB) (0.11 Mp, so yes > 0.1 Mp but trivially so. Should you add a "marginal improvement" filter?)
2. How did the "reduction" (to 353 × 282 (46 KB)) manage to increase the file size?

I'm not that bothered to argue the point, just curious. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 13:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230222131500","author":"John Maynard Friedman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222131500-Non-free_image_reduction_that_made_the_file_more_than_twice_as_big?","replies":["c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222141100-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222131500"],"displayName":"\ud835\udd41\ud835\udd44\ud835\udd3d"}}-->

But I was bothered enough to upload a tighter crop of the original . It is now 332 × 297 (16 KB). So I'm happy to drop it now unless you need to understand why the bot made a bigger file. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:11, 22 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230222141100","author":"John Maynard Friedman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222141100-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222131500","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230223141900-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222141100"],"displayName":"\ud835\udd41\ud835\udd44\ud835\udd3d"}}-->

There is a marginal improvement filter of 5%. The pixel change from the original was 14%, so it continued.

Regarding the file size, it's probably one of two possibilities. Due to previous issues, the bot first converts 1-bit B&W, 8-bit B&W, and paletted 8-bit pixel images to RGBA before resizing and converting it back. The second is that after a previous discussion, DatBot uses the maximum quality setting, which is generally discouraged as is explained in that section. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 14:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230223141900","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230223141900-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230222141100","replies":[]}}-->

Good evening DatGuy. Please, unblock the above mentioned fellow, she is a newbie in editing. Promising on her behalf that it won't repeat itself.

Thanks

Onwuka Glory (talk) 19:47, 24 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230224194700","author":"Onwuka Glory","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Onwuka_Glory-20230224194700-Soliciting_on_behalf_of_Nwokenkwo_Fustinus_on_IP_block.","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230224200000-Onwuka_Glory-20230224194700"]}}-->

@Onwuka Glory: Hello. What is your relation to Nwokenkwo Faustinus (talk · contribs) and Chiemela dav (talk · contribs)? DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 20:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230224200000","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230224200000-Onwuka_Glory-20230224194700","replies":["c-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400-DatGuy-20230224200000"]}}-->

Thanks very much for your question. Nwokenkwo Fustinus and Chiemela are my newly recruited secondary school students as a Wikipedia volunteer editors. I'm their Wikipedia volunteer tutor.

Thanks very much. Onwuka Glory (talk) 20:44, 24 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230224204400","author":"Onwuka Glory","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400-DatGuy-20230224200000","replies":["c-Graham87-20230225162600-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400","c-DatGuy-20230225194000-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400"]}}-->

I wrote some comments on this user's talk page. Graham87 16:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230225162600","author":"Graham87","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Graham87-20230225162600-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400","replies":[],"displayName":"Graham"}}-->

@Onwuka Glory: please see your talk page as to centralise this discussion. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 19:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230225194000","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230225194000-Onwuka_Glory-20230224204400","replies":[]}}-->

You recently removed the birthdate/place on the page Mars Argo. I found https://agecalculator.me/mars-argo/17618, https://www.idolbirthdays.net/mars-argo, and https://marsargo.fandom.com/wiki/Mars_Argo that confirm the birthday. Can you please add it back on? Illusion Flame (talk) 03:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226030500","author":"Illusion Flame","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Illusion_Flame-20230226030500-Edits_to_Mars_Argo","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230226030900-Illusion_Flame-20230226030500"]}}-->

Those sites are not reliable sources, much less reliable enough to satisfy Wikipedia's biography of living persons policy. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 03:09, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226030900","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230226030900-Illusion_Flame-20230226030500","replies":[]}}-->

I see. I guess they aren’t reliable. Sorry for the inconvenience, I am still trying to learn the ropes here. Illusion Flame (talk) 03:13, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226031300","author":"Illusion Flame","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Illusion_Flame-20230226031300-Edits_to_Mars_Argo","replies":[]}}-->

There are three sockpuppet investigation which are opened. 1: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Whybob19 2: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hilola Jurakulova 3: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Panpanchik

The first investigation is by me in which I wrote "All first four accounts are created in interval of 2-3 hours at the same day and I think that they all are about same user because they all regularly create unsourced and one sentence articles about towns and villages in Uzbekistan.", second is by User:Bbb23 in which he wrote "Generally, this involves the creation of drafts/articles on Uzbekistani topics, mostly places and mosques. There are a slew of users who create the drafts, and then usually the master or Dilshod's project move the drafts to article space. The master and Dilshod's project also create pages on their own, and sometimes the other users also create pages directly into article space on their own. Occasionally, the master and Dilshod's project edit the same pages. With the exception of the master, all of the accounts were created at roughly the same time. I'm requesting a check to confirm and also to look for other accounts. I found most of the suspected socks from following the history of the pages in the masters and Dilshod's project's history, but I don't think I found all of them." and third is by User:Onel5969 in which he wrote "Okay, not sure exactly what this is, but these 6 editors, 4 of them created in the last day or two, went on a stub-spree today. Each of them created about 20+ articles on Uzbekistan subjects, using the exact same sourcing and framework. Not sure if its the same editor or not, but I thought perhaps it might be worth taking a look at. I'll provide a link to one article from each of them, but as I said, if you look at their contributions, each did quite a few. Here are the articles: To'xtaboyvachcha Mosque, Tillasheykh mosque, [Qambarboyvachcha uy Mosque]], Chor Xaros Mosque (although that one's a little bit different, but same subject matter from a recently created account, but it's their only creation today), Uzun Hovuz Mosque, and Tinchob Mosque." and the similarity of these all three investigation is that the suspected users of this investigation creates articles related to Uzbekistan which means that this all investigations is about one subject and should be merged.

I think that this all three investigations should be merged with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Whybob19 since this investigation was made first. I request you for merging it. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️^{Let's Talk !} 12:10, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226121000","author":"LordVoldemort728","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LordVoldemort728-20230226121000-Sockpuppet_Investigation","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230226140900-LordVoldemort728-20230226121000"],"displayName":"\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\ud835\udc0b\ud835\udc28\ud835\udc2b\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc15\ud835\udc28\ud835\udc25\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc1e\ud835\udc26\ud835\udc28\ud835\udc2b\ud835\udc2d\ud835\udfd5\ud835\udfd0\ud835\udfd6\ud83e\uddd9\u200d\u2642\ufe0f"}}-->

I see you wrote the same thing on Spicy's talk page. At this point I don't see the need for a check—it's clearly different users participating in IbratWiki. As for the merging, it will most likely wait until there's clearer communication from the organisers, but I'll leave that to the clerks. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 14:09, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226140900","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230226140900-LordVoldemort728-20230226121000","replies":[]}}-->

I mean, I don’t like them either and would’ve requested a block for WP:CIR if they weren’t already blocked, but you should provide evidence they were abusing multiple accounts. Dronebogus (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226192900","author":"Dronebogus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dronebogus-20230226192900-Who_is_User:Epochalypse2038_a_sockmaster_of?","replies":["c-DatGuy-20230226193000-Dronebogus-20230226192900"]}}-->

@Dronebogus: Various IPs who have been previously blocked for disruption on Voiced velar tap. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 19:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226193000","author":"DatGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DatGuy-20230226193000-Dronebogus-20230226192900","replies":["c-Dronebogus-20230226193100-DatGuy-20230226193000"]}}-->

Okay, could you explain that to them? They’re requesting unblock. Dronebogus (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230226193100","author":"Dronebogus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dronebogus-20230226193100-DatGuy-20230226193000","replies":[]}}-->