User talk:DBD/Archive 34

August 2018 – May 2019

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Are Archdeacons notable by office?

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Dan, can I ask you to look at this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wandlyn SnelgroveBashereyre (talk) 13:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-20T13:23:00.000Z","author":"Bashereyre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bashereyre-2018-08-20T13:23:00.000Z-Are_Archdeacons_notable_by_office?","replies":[]}}-->

I won't actually do this

Say I put an episode of Family Guy up for deletion. At random this one. Carter and Tricia I anticipate that would get far more 'keep, merge, and deletes' on the Afd page than any religious biography would ever get.

I could argue that any single episode of Family Guy would have to be notable in its own right not just because it is part of a series.
Very occasionally a single episode of a series might warrant its own article.
Take Dad's Army, as we're both British. That too seems to have an individual article for each episode.
I could easily pick one of them for deletion, say from the latter series which (in my opinion) were pretty weak.
I would argue that one or two definitely are notable ("Don't tell him Pike") but not all 82.
Having discussed this with another user he says I would be guilty of Wikipedia:POINT.
I agree, but I still think WPs biggest problem is a bias towards popular culture. Bashereyre (talk) 11:04, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-27T11:04:00.000Z","author":"Bashereyre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bashereyre-2018-08-27T11:04:00.000Z-I_won't_actually_do_this","replies":[]}}-->
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Michael Heweton

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Hi Bash. Came across this archdeacon via a quote at ad orientem, where he's "Heweston" — then in my searching, I also found him as Hewetson. Do you have any clarification you could add to his bio, perhaps? DBD 17:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-20T17:26:00.000Z","author":"DBD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DBD-2018-08-20T17:26:00.000Z-Michael_Heweton","replies":[]}}-->

Dan, Henry Cotton has him as Hewetson [1] Bashereyre (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-20T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Bashereyre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bashereyre-2018-08-20T17:36:00.000Z-Michael_Heweton","replies":[]}}-->

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William of the United Kingdom listed at Redirects for discussion

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

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Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.


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Happy Saturnalia

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News
Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
  • {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
  • A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
Reminders
  • NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
NPP Tools Report
  • Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
  • copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
  • The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
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