User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2019/March


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ClueBot NG issue

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This issue has been raised here before but it was previously archived without a response from the bot operators. I think I know why ClueBot NG isn't reporting users to AIV. It may have happened when its edit summary was changed to "Edit by (username/IP) has been reverted by ClueBot NG due to possible noncompliance with Wikipedia guidelines. Report False Positive? (Report #) (Bot)", but after it was changed back to the original edit summary, that must have broken the bot when reporting users. Pinging User:Cobi and User:Rich Smith. — MRD2014 Talk 15:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-19T15:23:00.000Z","author":"MRD2014","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MRD2014-2019-01-19T15:23:00.000Z-ClueBot_NG_issue","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2019-01-25T09:04:00.000Z-MRD2014-2019-01-19T15:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cobi Rich Smith is there any update on this so far? I've just come across this edit, the user already had a level 4 warning for a personal attack on Shellwood so the bot should have reported this user to AIV. However it didn't.-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-25T09:04:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2019-01-25T09:04:00.000Z-MRD2014-2019-01-19T15:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-MRD2014-2019-03-04T00:44:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-01-25T09:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
ClueBot NG just reported a user to AIV. Hopefully it has been fixed. — MRD2014 Talk 00:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-04T00:44:00.000Z","author":"MRD2014","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MRD2014-2019-03-04T00:44:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-01-25T09:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T01:12:00.000Z-MRD2014-2019-03-04T00:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'll watch it for the next few days but hopefully it is now back reporting at AIV. MRD2014 I emailed pretty much everyone on ClueBot NG's user page earlier to try and get it fixed. Welcome back ClueBot NG - AIV's missed ya!-- 5 albert square (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-04T01:12:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T01:12:00.000Z-MRD2014-2019-03-04T00:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T02:17:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T01:12:00.000Z"]}}-->
DamianZaremba if it was you that fixed this - thank you -- 5 albert square (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-04T02:17:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T02:17:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-04T01:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Bug Report

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I have noticed that ClueBotNG does not warn users correctly. If a warning already exists for the current month, but was not issued by ClueBot, it will create a new heading for the month with a level one warning, even if the user had already received a level 4 warning earlier in the month. Jeb3Talk at me here 14:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T14:13:00.000Z","author":"Jebcubed","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jebcubed-2019-02-27T14:13:00.000Z-Bug_Report","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2019-03-03T02:17:00.000Z-Jebcubed-2019-02-27T14:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Jeb3"}}-->

That's not a bug Jebcubed. I'm sure I remember this being mentioned before - I just can't find whereabouts for this bot. I'm sure Cobi will correct me if I'm wrong. CBNG starts the warning process from the start again if a certain amount of time has passed - from memory it's 48 hours for the bot. As it then reverts back to the level 1 warning and therefore starting the process again, this is why it creates a new header.-- 5 albert square (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-03T02:17:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2019-03-03T02:17:00.000Z-Jebcubed-2019-02-27T14:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jebcubed-2019-03-04T13:58:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-03T02:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was noticing this behavior within ~24 hours. I saw some instances where someone had already left a level 1 warning less than an hour before ClueBot, and ClueBot created a new month header with another level 1 warning. I think that it isn't part of what you've pointed out above 5 albert square. Jeb3Talk at me here 13:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-04T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Jebcubed","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jebcubed-2019-03-04T13:58:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-03T02:17:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Jeb3"}}-->
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Archiving Errors

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Its appears that ClueBot III is archiving sections at WP:GL/ILL off by a month. Pbroks13 (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-01T18:31:00.000Z","author":"Pbroks13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pbroks13-2019-03-01T18:31:00.000Z-Archiving_Errors","replies":["c-DBigXray-2019-03-03T15:34:00.000Z-Pbroks13-2019-03-01T18:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

yes, Can someone take a look at my talk page history explain why the threads are archived to 2018 archive instead of 2019 archive. thanks in advance. --DBigXray 15:34, 3 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-03T15:34:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DBigXray-2019-03-03T15:34:00.000Z-Pbroks13-2019-03-01T18:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cobi-2019-03-10T00:27:00.000Z-DBigXray-2019-03-03T15:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
Because the natural age of archival on your page is set to 3800 hours. 3800 is 158 days. 158 days ago is still 2018. -- Cobi(t|c|b) 00:27, 10 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-10T00:27:00.000Z","author":"Cobi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cobi-2019-03-10T00:27:00.000Z-DBigXray-2019-03-03T15:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Double-quick vandalism

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I just noticed this series of edits at Tardigrade: [1][2][3].

My guess is that CB would have seen the first as vandalism too, but got distracted by the second. I mention this in case it's possible to improve something. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-12T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Gr\u00e5bergs Gr\u00e5a S\u00e5ng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gr\u00e5bergs_Gr\u00e5a_S\u00e5ng-2019-03-12T14:52:00.000Z-Double-quick_vandalism","replies":[]}}-->

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Hey there

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Great job Cluebot ng! You have done a very good job on your latest mission in operation wikipedia endurance. Thank you for your efforts!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
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Just so you know, we are arming your bomber with a-v emp bombs(Fictional) that will destroy vandal bases. Sort of like at shells, these act as at shells toward vandalization.

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Cluebot NG is down

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As it says in the section header. Cluebot NG hasn't edited in four days. Hopefully, everyone who is involved in its' upkeep knows already, but I wanted to make Absolutely Certain. -- I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 04:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z-Cluebot_NG_is_down","replies":["c-Girth_Summit-2019-03-20T07:53:00.000Z-I_dream_of_horses-2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z","c-K6ka-2019-03-20T17:22:00.000Z-I_dream_of_horses-2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Should we try giving Cluebot some Wikilove - maybe bots get discouraged if they're taken for granted. Hope you're enjoying your rest Cluebot, but please come back soon - we miss you. GirthSummit (blether) 07:53, 20 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T07:53:00.000Z","author":"Girth Summit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Girth_Summit-2019-03-20T07:53:00.000Z-I_dream_of_horses-2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"GirthSummit"}}-->
I emailed Rich Smith about it three days ago but haven't gotten a response yet. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 17:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T17:22:00.000Z","author":"K6ka","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-K6ka-2019-03-20T17:22:00.000Z-I_dream_of_horses-2019-03-20T04:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-OlEnglish-2019-03-21T05:46:00.000Z-K6ka-2019-03-20T17:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
We really should have a backup or something of this bot.. it's become quite integral! What if something happens to User:Cobi? The source code is public, can another user compile and run it on their machine? K6ka, have you tried emailing Cobi? -- œ 05:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T05:46:00.000Z","author":"OlEnglish","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-OlEnglish-2019-03-21T05:46:00.000Z-K6ka-2019-03-20T17:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cobi-2019-03-21T18:11:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2019-03-21T05:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u0153"}}-->
Well, it's already running on the WMF Labs, and User:DamianZaremba, User:Rich Smith, and I all have access to it. -- Cobi(t|c|b) 18:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T18:11:00.000Z","author":"Cobi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Cobi-2019-03-21T18:11:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2019-03-21T05:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The bot is back up and running. As a plus, it's reporting users to AIV again. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T16:49:00.000Z","author":"K6ka","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-K6ka-2019-03-21T16:49:00.000Z-Cluebot_NG_is_down","replies":["c-Girth_Summit-2019-03-21T17:07:00.000Z-K6ka-2019-03-21T16:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good to have you back buddy. Thanks to everyone who gave you that much-needed relaxing oil bath.GirthSummit (blether) 17:07, 21 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Girth Summit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Girth_Summit-2019-03-21T17:07:00.000Z-K6ka-2019-03-21T16:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-DamianZaremba-2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2019-03-21T17:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"GirthSummit"}}-->
I gave it a kick, there is monitoring of edits flowing which emails us, however it does not always line up nicely with people's life/work/travel status. Doesn't appear to be any major issues currently, so I don't foresee this happening again in the near future. - Damian Zaremba (talkcontribs) 16:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z","author":"DamianZaremba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DamianZaremba-2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2019-03-21T17:07:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Damian Zaremba"}}-->
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Dear @Cobi: http://review.cluebot.cluenet.org/ from Cobi Carter — Cobi (talk · contribs) — wrote and maintains the Wikipedia interface code and review interface.

is currently broken Xinbenlv (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Xinbenlv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xinbenlv-2019-03-21T19:14:00.000Z-Link_is_broken","replies":["c-DamianZaremba-2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z-Xinbenlv-2019-03-21T19:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is a known issue and has been for a while. Thanks for reporting it however. - Damian Zaremba (talkcontribs) 16:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z","author":"DamianZaremba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DamianZaremba-2019-03-22T16:42:00.000Z-Xinbenlv-2019-03-21T19:14:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Damian Zaremba"}}-->
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Just a suggestion

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You might want to add a comment section to some of the pages you monitor.

Obviously your watched by a human....

The most oftenly viewed/edited pages deserve a comment section.... MatthewLSr. (talk) 07:52, 23 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-23T07:52:00.000Z","author":"MatthewLSr.","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MatthewLSr.-2019-03-23T07:52:00.000Z-Just_a_suggestion","replies":["c-5_albert_square-2019-03-28T00:51:00.000Z-MatthewLSr.-2019-03-23T07:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nope. That's not what Wikipedia is. Your edit was reverted by the bot because you added general chit chat into an article. You can chat with other editors about Wikipedia-related topics on their talk page. You can discuss how to improve articles on the relevant article talk page.-- 5 albert square (talk) 00:51, 28 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-28T00:51:00.000Z","author":"5 albert square","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-5_albert_square-2019-03-28T00:51:00.000Z-MatthewLSr.-2019-03-23T07:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-K6ka-2019-03-29T10:00:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-28T00:51:00.000Z"]}}-->
The Wikipedia community has generally rejected the idea of allowing off-topic discussions on-wiki as well. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 10:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-29T10:00:00.000Z","author":"K6ka","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-K6ka-2019-03-29T10:00:00.000Z-5_albert_square-2019-03-28T00:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->