Hi there! I saw your note on this article about this being a work in progress. I've moved the content into your sandbox so you have a chance to work on it to get it up to standards. I'd suggest this page as a resource to help you as you work on it there. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240630013500","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20240630013500-Penina_Mo\u00efse","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240630194000-Nikkimaria-20240630013500","c-Charleshuard1999-20240630194300-Nikkimaria-20240630013500"]}}-->

Listen all the sources are from are TAMU library resource databases. Also are page is a lot better than what is currently up do not revert are changes again you can literally keep are page up for a week and then if you want to revert changes go ahead. But we are doing Penina Moise justice and finding accurate information verifiable in are databases. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 19:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240630194000","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240630194000-Nikkimaria-20240630013500","replies":[]}}-->

Another thing to a lot of the information on Penina such as her lineage is incorrect online although through ancestry we have been able to find relevant and correct information that could help other people who want to research her a lot easier. Were just trying to build her a page that gets other Wikipedia users engaged and want to edit and find more relevant information on her. Also cannot add photos if you could help me with that'd be awesome. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240630194300","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240630194300-Nikkimaria-20240630013500","replies":["c-Nikkimaria-20240701001800-Charleshuard1999-20240630194300"]}}-->

Having the draft in your sandbox allows you as much time as you need to make the changes you want there without being reverted. But the main article is not a draft, so that work shouldn't take place there.

Do you have a specific photo you want to add? If so I can walk you through how to do that. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240701001800","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20240701001800-Charleshuard1999-20240630194300","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240701034700-Nikkimaria-20240701001800"]}}-->

Thank you so much is there a way to make Wikipedia:Penina Moise This page into the original one because once completing the sandbox i tried to move it to the original but could not. This page is filled with good resources and is bound to get more wikipedia users engaged with her page. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 03:47, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240701034700","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240701034700-Nikkimaria-20240701001800","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240701034900-Charleshuard1999-20240701034700"]}}-->

I feel like this page is something where the people in my group are going to edit the grammar to make it better but overall i do believe that it is alot better than what is currently up. We are also hoping to push towards 30+ references i just want it to replace the original one. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 03:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240701034900","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240701034900-Charleshuard1999-20240701034700","replies":["c-Nikkimaria-20240701035700-Charleshuard1999-20240701034900"]}}-->

You won't be able to move it yourself because there's already a page at the original title, and at this point it's not ready to be moved. The draft has a lot of inline external links - the ones that are reliable sources should be used as citations, and those that are not (especially user-generated sources like Geni) should be removed. It's also important to make sure all opinion statements are cited and attributed to reliable sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240701035700","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20240701035700-Charleshuard1999-20240701034900","replies":[]}}-->

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at User:Nikkimaria, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Drmies (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702202800","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-20240702202800-July_2024","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203000-Drmies-20240702202800","c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300-Drmies-20240702202800"]}}-->

What are you talking about i publish 50 + reference wikipedia article and it is changed by Nikkimaria who has not been active since 2015. Then i find out that he is changing other peoples hard work. I won't do it again but revaluate who you put in charge here because a lot of the information is incorrect. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 20:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702203000","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203000-Drmies-20240702202800","replies":[]}}-->

I reverted a change that was maybe 2,000, Nikkimaria has reverted my changes that are 13,000 and they are university approved citations. If i am able to file complaint against Nikkimaria do that because you guys look pretty stupid have the current page of Penina Moise be significantly worse than the draft. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 20:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702203300","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300-Drmies-20240702202800","replies":["c-Drmies-20240702203500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300","c-Drmies-20240702203500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300-1","c-Charleshuard1999-20240702204500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300"]}}-->

Nikkimaria is not active but changing other people's work? Strange. You vandalized another user's user page: that's unacceptable. You might could try to figure out what was wrong about your edits and see if you can improve on it. Nikkimaria is one of our most highly valued contributors of quality content, so listening to them is a good idea; it's what I do. You could visit the article talk page. You could also compare Draft:Penina Moise with good Wikipedia articles. Drmies (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702203500","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-20240702203500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203600-Drmies-20240702203500"]}}-->

Vandalizing does not equal reverting changes that you can easily revert back. This has happened to me more than 4 times by NikkiMaria. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 20:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702203600","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240702203600-Drmies-20240702203500","replies":[]}}-->

Oh, you can file a complaint at WP:ANI, for instance, but it might have the side effect of shortening your career here. Drmies (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702203500","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-20240702203500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300-1","replies":["c-Charleshuard1999-20240702204100-Drmies-20240702203500"]}}-->

Yea because filing a compliant about a legitimate concern would end my career? Charleshuard1999 (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702204100","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240702204100-Drmies-20240702203500","replies":[]}}-->

Look at the guys history he was not active before this at all and hoped on and ruined a lot of my work when he could simply give me pointers to getting it up to speed. That vandalisms. Charleshuard1999 (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702204500","author":"Charleshuard1999","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Charleshuard1999-20240702204500-Charleshuard1999-20240702203300","replies":["c-Drmies-20240703001700-Charleshuard1999-20240702204500"]}}-->

No, because filing a foolish complaint in a content issue where you are not correct will not gain you any support. And "he was not active before this at all" is silly. First of all I don't know that Nikkimaria is a "he", and I don't think you do either, and second they made a thousand edits since June 18. And vandalism has a very specific meaning: see WP:VANDALISM. You want to improve that article? Fine, that's great, but it's a good idea to listen to more experienced editors, and with over 220,000 edits, thousands of which in the area of WP:Featured articles, Nikkimaria is an editor one should listen to. Your "Literary Inspirations" section is completely unsourced, for instance. Drmies (talk) 00:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240703001700","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-20240703001700-Charleshuard1999-20240702204500","replies":["c-Nikkimaria-20240703002300-Drmies-20240703001700"]}}-->

Thanks Drmies. Charleshuard, as I said above, the reason I moved your content to draft was because it needed work to get it up to standard and you were unhappy about being reverted - working on it in a sandbox is a way to give you more time to fix it up and address some of these issues without the pressure of likely reversion of unprepared content. To be fair to you, you have made some fixes, which is great, but a lot of what you've got is still lacking in reliable sourcing. I'd again recommend reading through this resource to better understand what the article should look like and how to approach getting there. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240703002300","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20240703002300-Drmies-20240703001700","replies":[]}}-->