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Hi Charles. Good to see William Pryce on here. Do you have access to the online ODNB article? It has some significant changes from the old version – I can email you a copy of the text if it would be useful.  —SMALLJIM  20:31, 1 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-01T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Smalljim","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Smalljim-2013-12-01T20:31:00.000Z-William_Pryce","replies":["c-Smalljim-2013-12-01T20:36:00.000Z-Smalljim-2013-12-01T20:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"SMALL"}}-->

Ah I see you do :)  —SMALLJIM  20:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-01T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Smalljim","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smalljim-2013-12-01T20:36:00.000Z-Smalljim-2013-12-01T20:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"SMALL"}}-->

Yes, use it all the time. I have moved onto William Gwavas now, though. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-01T20:39:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-01T20:39:00.000Z-William_Pryce","replies":[]}}-->

Hi can you give me the full citation for this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T12:52:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T12:52:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":[]}}-->

{{cite EB1911|wstitle=Copenhagen|volume=7}} for

Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Copenhagen" . Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 7 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-11-29T13:02:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks. Hope you're well.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T13:27:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T13:27:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-11-29T14:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T13:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, fine, somewhat busy right now (I want all the DNB biographies on my watchlist). I've got a watercolourists project that I hope will feed into "Your Paintings". There is a tool that is about matching ODNB biographies to Wikidata items, a worthy cause with about 39,000 to check. It won't get done so soon. Did you see Wikipedia:WikiProject Women artists? Some serious listing work should go on in that area, overlapping with all of the above.

And you? Charles Matthews (talk) 14:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T14:06:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-11-29T14:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T13:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, not too bad. Incidentally my collaborator on Copenhagen did a lot of work on List of women photographers a while back, I suspect he might be interested. I've been meaning to start some more DNB entries but I've been concentrating on general cleanup of things like Indian cities and focusing on getting articles like Aalborg, Skagen and now Copenhagen to GA. Mughal-e-Azam is at FAC and I'm also helping prepare Trichy for FA, I didn't do the majority of the work though as I feel my time is best put into editing those articles which desperately need even basic editing. I've also been working with Rosiestep on translating articles on Benedictine monasteries in Catalonia which is quite interesting.So much work needed on existing articles aside from all the missing ones, sometimes difficult to know where to start! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T14:31:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T14:31:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-11-29T14:41:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T14:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Indeed, there seem to be three "fronts": start things from lists to keep fresh material ticking over; spot articles that really ought to be here by now (succession to Elizabeth I of England and parliamentary visitation of the University of Oxford are two recent ones of mine); and fixing, where I'm currently dealing with the mess at Historicism (Christianity). Charles Matthews (talk) 14:41, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T14:41:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-11-29T14:41:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T14:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Looks a sizable task to sort out! One of the problems of course is lack of priority on here. I've seen GAs even FAs on churches or small monuments or something and you find the village it is in is an unsourced stub or the town article too haphazard and bloated and unsourced. Of course all good content contributed here is a positive thing but I've noticed that people generally pick topics which are narrower in scope and easier to research, which is why we have so many minor roads and TV episodes being presented at GAN when the major highways and TV programmes are often in a shocking state and poorly sourced. I'm trying to balance my work between the three areas as you say New articles, basic general cleanup and sourcing and Good Article quality work, four if you include identifying notable topics which is also pretty important. Indian and Pakistani settlements tend to be among the worst on wikipedia in general because those countries have a fair access to the Internet at least in the cities and articles tend to get hijacked by people with a very poor command of English or understanding or what wikipedia is and spam them with lists of "famous" locals and schools and businesses and POV. A lot of Indian cities just require a basic cut and a source or two. I've also been meaning to go through the top level admin divisions of the African countries on things like regions, provinces and departments and ensuring it at least as sourced data or some info. Some of the countries have articles on regions which cover thousands of square miles and they contain next to nothing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-29T16:02:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-11-29T16:02:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":[]}}-->

I started Walter Field but can't remember what the attribution and source template was.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T14:51:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T14:57:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T14:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll go and do it now; I was carrying a large hat. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T14:57:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T14:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks, I'll try to find a PD photo.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T15:13:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T15:13:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T16:51:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T15:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

There's better metadata for the one you posted, in a version at the NPG: [1]. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T16:51:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T15:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Oddly couldn't find anything in google books, but I started John Finnie (painter) and managed to find quite a bit more. Started Francis Parsons (painter) too but there is an error with the volume.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T17:09:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T19:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fixed. {{cite DNB}} is the default. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:06, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T19:06:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T19:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T17:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You don't mind me creating the ones you've listed on your user page do you? I wasn't sure if they were meant only for you.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T20:01:00.000Z-Copenhagen","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T20:04:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T20:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now you ask? Go for it: that list is just a small part of the lists that should be at WP:WP DNB#Project pages. Which are time-consuming to do. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:04, 4 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T20:04:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-04T20:04:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-12-04T20:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Charles, I read your comment at NAN talk. While I extracted comments from John Vandenberg, I didn't write most of the story, and I don't know what a djvu file is, sadly. But the text does say "pdf or djvu". Is it still wrong or misleading? Tony (talk) 11:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-05T11:34:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony1-2013-12-05T11:34:00.000Z-Wikisource","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-05T12:27:00.000Z-Tony1-2013-12-05T11:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Tony"}}-->

I'd say so. Let's place this in the context of Commons, since I think that helps. It is true that most editors' early experience of active use of Commons would be to upload an image themselves. At Wikisource it is certainly more likely that a work of interest is already in progress (is present as a file) but requires proofing. There is a large backlog, if you want to put it that way, of works that have been uploaded already.

But in a sense the lede of the whole piece should take a bit more of the strain of explaining the purpose of the site. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-05T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-05T12:27:00.000Z-Tony1-2013-12-05T11:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tony1-2013-12-06T03:58:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-05T12:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree. Tony (talk) 03:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-06T03:58:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tony1-2013-12-06T03:58:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-05T12:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Tony"}}-->

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Many thanks for this. What a squat, solid building it was. I'm not familiar with the topographical resources for C18 London buildings, but I know someone I can ask. I've not been in touch recently since I've been very busy here with a couple of long term projects running simultaneously. One is to list all of Burney's musical biographies and general articles from Rees. I done a 1/3 of the work so far, and will aim to finish it around the middle of next year. I've had to read up a great deal about Burney and his times. While working at it I amuse myself by listening to baroque music on YouTube. The other is to finalise the editing of a list of all the news articles from my local paper the Bridgwater Mercury for each week of WW1. This is to inform the design of displays about the War at the Blake Museum, Bridgwater, of which I am Hon Curator. We've had a team working on it for the past year. Its really very harrowing stuff, since numerous letters from the front were published. Kind regards Apwoolrich (talk) 22:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T22:29:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2013-12-13T22:29:00.000Z-Old_Jewry_Meeting_House","replies":[]}}-->

One way or anther I think that this thread Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#Using full names of authors may be of interest to you. -- PBS (talk) 23:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T23:03:00.000Z","author":"PBS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PBS-2013-12-13T23:03:00.000Z-Using_full_names_of_authors","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry, only just checked email and got your message. Yes the article could do with pruning. No I don't think it'd be a good merge into Christ myth theory. Now that Ehrman has dedicated 4 or 5 pages to Acharya S./Dorothy Murdock's works the academic world has a reliable (and agnostic) source to present something meaningful in the article. Ehrman's work should also help to clean up the other mythycist articles in the category. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:57, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z","author":"In ictu oculi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z-Acharya_S.","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-13T13:59:00.000Z-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-14T12:00:00.000Z-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the view.

By the way, I have drifted into compiling List of places of worship in London, 1804. I thought it was an interesting moment (Unitarians expanding, Industrial Revolution creating a large number of new congregations, High Church Anglicans just waking up to those effects). Now I have worked over the list a bit, I'm becoming amused at my own naivety: probably the "Impartial List" is only claiming impartiality between Anglican evangelicals and dissenters, as the CMS did around then. Still an interesting study, into which I was drawn by the DNB coverage of Baptists (scanty and hardly comprehensible in parts).

Also by the way, on User talk:BrainyBabe you raised a technical point about notifications. It seems the precise answer to it is "depends on the user's preferences". My understanding is that notifications of "Mentions" are enabled by default; but certainly if a user actively turns them off, they won't be notified of the pings. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-13T13:59:00.000Z-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-14T02:41:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-13T13:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, that explains then the mystery with pings not working for some. Looks like an interesting article, 1804, unfortunately my own command of Unitarian/Dissenter history begins to decline rapidly after the Italian/Dutch/Polish refugees become less significant, my area of study, 30 years ago, was largely limited to 17thC Latin and Polish sources, and even those books are long in storage. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:41, 14 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-14T02:41:00.000Z","author":"In ictu oculi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-14T02:41:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-13T13:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

One good catch from the London article is Charles Buck (minister), he of Buck's Theological Dictionary. Whether or not he was the Buck at Camomile Street, which I shall work on. The ODNB has some of his London congregations, but ignores the American influence, which is what happens often enough: half the story missing even there. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:00, 14 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-14T12:00:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-14T12:00:00.000Z-In_ictu_oculi-2013-12-13T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for the thanks. I wrote an article Knights, baronets and peers of the Protectorate -- little more than list, but a useful vehicle to complement Cromwell's Other House to find some of the more notable men of the Protectorate and fill in some biographies for those names for which there was none. It took me some time to find the DNB article, because I did not know he was in favour after the Restoration and the trouble with this man was his name because Google search on ["John King" ... ] tends to throw up lots of information on King John and the Barons! Once I found that there was a DNB article on him -- I really should have checked there first! -- it was plane sailing. -- PBS (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","author":"PBS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z-John_King_not_King_John","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T11:37:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T09:56:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T10:10:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T12:02:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Do you know Roy Sherwood, The Court of Oliver Cromwell (1977)? I have a copy I might even be able to find. Probably has some helpful material. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-18T11:37:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T11:37:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You had me fooled with John Collins (Independent minister): nearly created a duplicate (filling in redlinks at Morning Exercises this evening: only about 17 to do). Not linked in from Wikisource DNB, because the tool I use to find new creations like the Kingston article isn't good at disambiguation, and not on the John Collins dab page here; taking away my best tricks. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-18T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-PBS-2013-12-19T09:51:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T21:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

My mistake, I should have added the article to the dab page. I was at the time using AWB to fix some parameters in {{Cite Appletons}}, and decided to expand the article Richard Mather which led to Nathaniel Mather and Samuel Mather (Independent minister). At the time I was not focusing on keeping Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/DNB Epitome up to date, but now after a couple of conversations on talk pages I have read since then, if I add an article I try to remember to do so. -- PBS (talk) 09:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T09:51:00.000Z","author":"PBS","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PBS-2013-12-19T09:51:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-18T21:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I haven't been so good myself at updating dab pages in the past; but they are great stuff, and I'm trying to be disciplined about it now. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T09:56:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T09:56:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-PBS-2013-12-19T09:59:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T09:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

To circumvent my type of error, perhaps Category:Articles incorporating DNB text with Wikisource reference can be used to check if an article already exists. -- PBS (talk) 09:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T09:59:00.000Z","author":"PBS","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PBS-2013-12-19T09:59:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T09:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Interesting. The tool is at http://tools.wmflabs.org/dnbtools/map2wp.php?set=dnb00&letter= where you can add any string to match. The performance at Labs is now pretty quick. That category might be helpful in some way to suggest priority candidates. As things are set up now, matches are often hidden behind dabs of some sort (the tool is really useful, but by now I'm familiar with numerous quirks). Magnus Manske is usually open to feature requests, though I don't always ask for the right features, it seems ... Maybe just have a second tool that uses that category. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T10:10:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T10:10:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-PBS-2013-12-19T11:56:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T10:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks I'll have to check it out. On a tangent on Wikisource you dabbed at least one set of names Sr. and Jr. as in "s:Hotham, John Jr. (d.1645) (DNB00)", although for this period the more usual dab extension is "the elder" and "the younger" (as in Henry Vane or the later William Pitt) Is there any reason for choosing Sr. and Jr. as a dab extension and not ",the elder" and ",the younger" for these men? -- PBS (talk) 11:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T11:56:00.000Z","author":"PBS","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PBS-2013-12-19T11:56:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T10:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just something ad hoc that day. Things are not quite like here: there is a basic style, but when it breaks down as in this you have to do something there and then, and fix it later if necessary. There is a minimalism for all the DNB titles, as the general rule. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T12:02:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-19T12:02:00.000Z-PBS-2013-12-18T10:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, I stumbled across one of your many draft article pages today. Please review the list at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Charles_Matthews/ and if any are obsolete please tag them for deletion with {{db-author}}. If any are still in hand, please add {{userdraft}} at the top if this is missing. Thanks – Fayenatic London 13:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T13:06:00.000Z","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-28T13:06:00.000Z-Old_draft_pages","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T07:29:00.000Z-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-28T13:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}-->

Most of my pages in my user space are in fact lists, for development purposes. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T07:29:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T07:29:00.000Z-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-28T13:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-29T09:33:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T07:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

it was one of the biographies that led me here, when checking backlinks after a move. I noticed a couple of bios last edited in 2010 or 2011. You may know about the guidance at WP:STALEDRAFT. Perhaps some might be deleted if they are never going to make it, or blanked while keeping the edit history for potential future use? – Fayenatic London 09:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-29T09:33:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T07:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T09:39:00.000Z-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-29T09:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}-->

I didn't know that guideline: thank you for drawing my attention to it. A small percentage of my drafts are not completed. As you can see from User:Charles Matthews/New - other6, I'm currently completing around three articles a day. I'll pay attention to {{userdraft}}. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T09:39:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T09:39:00.000Z-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-29T09:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fayenatic_london-2013-12-29T09:49:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T09:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Hi, I'm Lemonmelonsuperstar. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Henry Frederic Turle, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Lemonmelonsuperstar (talk) 12:00, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","author":"Lemonmelonsuperstar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated","replies":["c-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:09:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T12:14:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T12:28:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I think that the page must be reviewed again.So,I unreveiwed it.All new articles are reviewed at some point of time by regular editors or administrators.Lemonmelonsuperstar (talk) 12:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T12:09:00.000Z","author":"Lemonmelonsuperstar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:09:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

OK, I created it. If there is anything you want me to do, you need to tell me. If there is any tagging to be done, you'd better do it. If you have suggestions, please place them on Talk:Henry Frederic Turle. I don't honestly see why I have to go to your talk page on this procedural matter. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:14, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T12:14:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:25:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T12:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

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(third edit conflict) So I have autopatrolled rights. If you have a problem with that particular page, it would be helpful if you could explain why. (It would also help if you could use Preview here.) Charles Matthews (talk) 12:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T12:28:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-29T12:28:00.000Z-Lemonmelonsuperstar-2013-12-29T12:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just curious why "List of..." rather than just Lardner's Cabinet Cyclopaedia. Seems the List should come second -- and there's enough in the background section to justify a move. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  06:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z","author":"Rhododendrites","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z-List_of_works_in_Lardner's_Cabinet_Cyclop\u00e6dia","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T07:24:00.000Z-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T08:00:00.000Z-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Isn't it conventional to call a list a "List"? The "Background" section was moved in yesterday, in fact. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T07:24:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T07:24:00.000Z-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T07:53:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T07:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah. Didn't notice that part was new. It just seemed odd that a list with an unusually long amount of non-list information existed but the main article didn't. I'll take a closer look at likely create it in the next couple days if you don't get to it/feel like it. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  07:53, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T07:53:00.000Z","author":"Rhododendrites","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T07:53:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T07:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Not quite understanding what you intend. I don't feel strongly about what the article is called, but the point of the exercise is to have a bibliographical article about the Cyclopædia, and its context, together. As you may appreciate, the relationship with Lives of the Most Eminent Literary and Scientific Men was more on my mind. There are bibliographic issues with that article to sort out; and the details of the Cyclopædia have been somewhat submerged with the emphasis on Mary Shelley. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T08:00:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-30T08:00:00.000Z-Rhododendrites-2013-12-30T06:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for the article. Most of my two years on Wikipedia have been spent filling in masonic history, and Oliver is one of the forgotten bricks in the making of modern masonry (albeit not a terribly useful one). The article was needed, but so far down my to-do list that finding it written was a bit like a Christmas present. Can I ask what prompted you to write the article? Fiddlersmouth (talk) 23:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T23:24:00.000Z","author":"Fiddlersmouth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fiddlersmouth-2013-12-30T23:24:00.000Z-George_Oliver_(freemason)","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-31T05:05:00.000Z-Fiddlersmouth-2013-12-30T23:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Quite a long story, but basically I'm engaged in creating articles where the Dictionary of National Biography covers a person. This is not related to the topic area. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-31T05:05:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2013-12-31T05:05:00.000Z-Fiddlersmouth-2013-12-30T23:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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As past editor to the article, you are encouraged to participate in the discussion at Talk:Thomas Keightley (historian) to rename Thomas Keightley (historian)→Thomas Keightley since requirements of usage and lasting significance under WP:PRIMARYTOPIC appear to be easily met. Also "Thomas Keightley (historian)" would seem to be a misleading label to many nowadays who recognize him as mythology/folklore writer primarily.
I see from earlier posts that you have also worked heavily on Lardner's Cabinet Cyclopædia, to which Keightley was a history-related contributor. So perhaps we do not see eye-to-eye on this issue. I am planning to rewrite the biographical article based on two bio pieces of more recent make than the DNB, and since they are both by folklorists, the result will be shift of emphasis towards Keightley's mythology/folklore contributions, and consequently a downplay of his historical pieces. --Kiyoweap (talk) 14:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-09T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Kiyoweap","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kiyoweap-2014-01-09T14:26:00.000Z-Move_request_on_Thomas_Keightley_(historian)","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-09T17:03:00.000Z-Kiyoweap-2014-01-09T14:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

The ODNB calls him "historian and author", so I'm not with you there. It also makes clear he was a significant figure among writers on folklore, so I'm not going to make an issue about greater emphasis of a "now remembered for" kind. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-09T17:03:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-09T17:03:00.000Z-Kiyoweap-2014-01-09T14:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for creating the article on William Bullein. Are you going to nominate it at DYK? NinaGreen (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-18T18:31:00.000Z","author":"NinaGreen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NinaGreen-2014-01-18T18:31:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_for_new_article_on_William_Bullein","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-20T08:07:00.000Z-NinaGreen-2014-01-18T18:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't nominate articles for DYK. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:07, 20 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-20T08:07:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-20T08:07:00.000Z-NinaGreen-2014-01-18T18:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Colin Chisholm (I don't envy you having to get this through. I did try to tell the ODNB, but they don't seem intersted. Douglas Hamilton's book on the Scottish-Caribbean nexus is based on his PhD thesis which says right out and correctly that Colin was Provost William's son, but the published edition doesn't, so there isn't a frontline authority.- The relationship to Provost William Chisholm thus remains bedevilled by A.W.Mackenzie who thought there was a son, William, who practiced in Bristol after 1800. This is what Colin did, though he probably didn't arrive in Clifton until after 1802 - there's a reference in the Reelig papers to him having said goodbye to the Caribbean around that time. No trace of a birth date, but on the whole Hosack's date is the likeliest because of the enlistment date. However, this is close to the date of his father's second marriage and he did not get on - according to her - with his father's second wife, Katherine Baillie. The memorial for his father he provided in the Old High Kirk of Inverness after 1807 makes no mention of her at all, though it does mention his mother. He doesn't even name himself or his half-siblings. If you check with 'Citizens of the World' you will find that Aberdeen University in the eighteenth century had various ways of producing doctors - the main figure of the book, Alexander Grant of Dalvey in the late 17teens had apparently done something like a corresponding course with them ; Chisholm was awarded a degree in 1792, but this was'graduation' only in a technical sense. Date of settlement in Bristol was probably before 1805 as youngest daughter Catherine is christened there 1805.

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Sorry, I didn't realise, until after I'd reverted, why you were (correctly) removing the link. I was going to link to Wiktionary's entry instead, but I agree that the adjective is unnecessary. Dbfirs 19:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-27T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Dbfirs","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dbfirs-2014-01-27T19:39:00.000Z-Exemplar","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-27T19:44:00.000Z-Dbfirs-2014-01-27T19:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK, I was sorting out exemplar this morning as a disambiguation page, and then needed to go through all the incoming links to it from articles, making various quick decisions. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-27T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-27T19:44:00.000Z-Dbfirs-2014-01-27T19:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

As you might have already noticed, Eric and I have begun expanding it. Aside from the additions you made to it a while back for such an author the content was really lacking, there was literally no coverage of her work. I've begun to start filling in some red links, National Froebel Foundation surprisingly was missing, can you add to it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:35, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T11:35:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T11:35:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-26T15:36:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T11:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

You surely must have a personal copy of Druce's This day our daily fictions: an enquiry into the multi-million bestseller status of Enid Blyton and Ian Fleming? Charles Matthews (talk) 15:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T15:36:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-26T15:36:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T11:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Nope.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T18:55:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T18:55:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":[]}}-->

Can you look into Bertie Meyer for me, I'm really not sure those are his own birth and death dates, I picked them up in a snippet but they would seem about right. I wonder if Bernard Meyer or B. A. Meyer might turn up anything. Also can you find anything on Bestime, a manufacturer of jigsaws and board games in the 1940s/50s who produced the first Enid Blyton jigsaws.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T20:21:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T20:21:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-26T21:49:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T20:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

A is for Alexander, and you're probably right to worry about the dob. Searching www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk for "Bestime" gives a chronology of puzzles; also the comment from http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/games-puzzles-and-toys.php?cat=bestnumjigsaws that "in the early 60s there were 146 companies producing Noddy merchandise". This project may keep you quite busy. Actually BeStime is an imprint for books; may just have been a trademark really? Note the early daring use of CamelCase. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-26T21:49:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T20:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, Tim's sent me the Times obit which states June 17 1877! I've just picked up another source which says June 1877, although neither mention the exact date of death but he was cremated on Nov 22 1967, so I've put mid November. Proof that wikimedia should be trying to make as many agreements with newspaper archives as possible... Makes you wonder why he doesn't have an ODNB entry. He was married to US actress Rosemary Ames. Amazes me how many of Blyton's really quite notable books don't have articles, Sunny Stories, one of the most popular children's magazines was missing until I started it earlier! I bet that there's rather a few thousand attics or storage rooms around the UK which have boxes with things like that in it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-26T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-26T22:16:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":[]}}-->

Started Bestime, isn't there a category for games or jigsaws?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-28T12:36:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-28T12:36:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-28T14:09:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-28T12:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Try Category:Puzzles (look who started it). Charles Matthews (talk) 14:09, 28 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-28T14:09:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-01-28T14:09:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-28T12:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Ha, nearly 10 years ago.. I started Category:Jigsaw puzzle manufacturers which feeds into puzzle designers. I really think a list like List of board game and jigsaw puzzle manufacturers of the United Kingdom would be quite useful...♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-28T15:03:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-01-28T15:03:00.000Z-Enid_Blyton","replies":[]}}-->

The article looks pretty comprehensive to me. I'll rootle round my collection of technical encyclopaedias and see what might turn up. Just realised I wrote a chunk of the Jacob Perkins article in about 2007!! Apwoolrich (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-28T20:00:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2014-01-28T20:00:00.000Z-Childes","replies":[]}}-->

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Just thanked you for minor addition to History of Penkridge, but should really thank you for John de Derlington article, to which you linked it. Sjwells53 (talk) 11:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T11:41:00.000Z","author":"Sjwells53","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sjwells53-2014-02-14T11:41:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T12:34:00.000Z-Sjwells53-2014-02-14T11:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Hi. Started this. Can you find any other sources and locate the url of the Far East Columbians PDF?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z-Antonio_Castellanos","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:43:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:51:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:58:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T14:16:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T15:46:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T15:56:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've done the Spanish interwiki. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:43:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:43:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Ideally you'd want the Enciclopedia de México: Campeche-Cordoba - Page 1409. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:51, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:51:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:56:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, that looks like a great resource, unfortunately can't access it! Good grief how big is that Mexican encyclopedia then if it has over 1400 pages in the Campeche-Cordoba volume alone!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:56:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The 1977 edition seems to be on open shelves in the University Library here. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:58:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T14:10:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Is it in English or Spanish in the uni library do you think? I bet we don't have even half the articles in it! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:10, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T14:10:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T13:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Spanish, certainly. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T14:16:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T15:20:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T14:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Next time you're in the library any chance you could let me know how many volumes and pages it has in total out of curiosity? I gather it has 12 volumes but how many pages is that roughly? I think I'll start Enciclopedia de México. I've asked Thelmadatter if she can expand it..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T15:20:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T14:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was there on Tuesday, and brought back six (!) books relevant to James Maxwell (scholar), who is "troublesome". So far Gilbert Blackhall and Alexander of Roes came out of those: quite proud of the latter, as not DNB and I think ending up better than the deWP version, though I had to sweat over it. It may be that the Enciclopedia de México, new version, is reference-only in the Reading Room, in which case I can look it over when I next go, which might be a couple of weeks now. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T15:46:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T15:46:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

See es:José Rogelio Álvarez for some background, BTW. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T15:56:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-14T15:56:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-14T13:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you find any other sources on Welsh Calvinist Isaac Hughes [2] ? I've added to Friedrich Adolph Lampe and have asked Yngvadottir to translate from Dutch wikipedia.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T10:04:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:04:00.000Z-Antonio_Castellanos","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-19T10:31:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

1790 to 1870, London Missionary Society.[3] Try with "Griqua": a number of links from here, for example. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:31, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T10:31:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-19T10:31:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think he might be worth starting. Just started Johannes d'Outrein, amazed he was missing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T10:52:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:52:00.000Z-Antonio_Castellanos","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-19T11:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thx. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T11:06:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-19T11:06:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T10:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Isaac Hughes will do I think, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T11:56:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-19T11:56:00.000Z-Antonio_Castellanos","replies":[]}}-->

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You strike me as somebody who'd be good at this sort of thing.

I have something to figure out

The number choices are 36, 54, 40, and 50

The numbers go before the letters which stand for some words so it would be

xx C in a PIJ and xx Y M for GWA

the last one I figured out was 21 S on a D =21 spots on a dice, the one before that was xx FO in a P =20 fluid ounces in a pint. So it would be something like 50 captains in a Palestine Islamic Jihad. Can you think what PIJ and GWA might stand for? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-22T09:46:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-22T09:46:00.000Z-Puzzle","replies":[]}}-->

I've got 54 Cards in a Pack Including Jokers thanks to Moswento, and 50 years married for a Golden wedding anniversary. Done it now! It wasn't as difficult as this I guess!

On the wiki front I'm now a member of WMUK,. I'm planning on using the grant system to buy books. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-22T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-22T11:07:00.000Z-Puzzle","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-02-23T18:38:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-22T11:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Can you find the url for the adobe source used in Mount Shungol? ^ Development concept of an appropriate and sustainable agroforestry, Digbib.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de is the link. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-28T17:10:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-02-28T17:10:00.000Z-Puzzle","replies":[]}}-->

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Dear Charles... You were incredibly kind and patient with us all last night. Your work is inspiring - and who doesn't like kittens? Thank you! I shall be checking out (at least a tiny fraction of) the many many parts of Wikipedia you've created.

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Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Women artists, also. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-05T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-05T16:28:00.000Z-Well,_the_least_I_can_do_is_send_a_kitten_back_to_you!","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi Charles. I've just discovered that my list of long biographies in Rees has just been deleted, seemingly by a Bot. Any thoughts on what I might to to retrieve it, please. I don't want this to happen with the other lists already published and the music ones I am working on. Thanks. Apwoolrich (talk) 14:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z-Rees_list_of_biographies","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:09:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:22:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:33:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T17:18:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

With the exact title, I can get the wikitext back for you. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:09:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

OK, it's restored now, just had to investigate a little in Special pages. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:22:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Scanning down List of long biographical articles on Rees's Cyclopaedia, I wondered if we are missing any. I created Robert Watson (historian) last month, in fact. An odd choice, though. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T15:33:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:33:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T16:48:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Many thanks for doing this. In fact is should be Richard Watson DD, bishop of Llandaff for the long article. The main heading is for Robert, and 0.3 of a column lower down starts a sub heading for Richard W. I have corrected the entry. The original list was compiled in the 1980s for the Rees Project and the mistake was made then.Apwoolrich (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T16:48:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T16:48:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T15:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Glad to be of help. Hope the floods stayed away. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:18, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T17:18:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T14:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T19:00:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T17:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes. We're a couple of miles from Moorland/Fordgate, where the action was, and a bit higher up. We had some water in a lower-level out-building when the yard drains backed up. The septic tank backed up, as they do round here in the middle of winter, but all is getting back to normal now, I am glad to say. Apwoolrich (talk) 19:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T19:00:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-12T19:00:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-12T17:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Greetings. Can you remember what page of the Enid Blyton Society that list of games and manufacturers was on? I remembered it was 178 or something. Need some sources on her puzzles and games for the article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T12:57:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T12:57:00.000Z-Blyton","replies":[]}}-->

I think I've got it now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z-Blyton","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:32:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z","c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:53:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good. Some of my time is being taken up by finishing off the VLE now. Just done novel of circulation. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T16:32:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:32:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:47:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Amazing what's still missing. I've put in the grant request now at [4] Althorp will be most interesting I think, it was unsourced before I sourced it a while back! You don't strike me as much of a film buff but out of curiosity what are your favourites? I recently promoted Wings (1927 film) the first Oscar winner! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:47:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Errr, last one I saw was Philomena, and I thought it was very well done. Mostly stick to films mentioned in the DNB. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:53:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T16:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T17:06:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Agreed, Philomena I think was the best film of 2013 I've seen.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:06, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T17:06:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-17T17:06:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-17T16:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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A very good point. The comment was supposed to convey the fact that I, together with colleagues, were unable to locate anything other than (in many cases pitifully) brief bits of info – I accept that it could/should have been worded in a different manner. The whole article was really intended to be a list of the persons who now had an entry, and the “left overs”, and it was these that I didn’t want to dismiss but could not find sufficient info to make an entry viable. By all means, please amend the phrase Alanfromwakefield (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-23T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Alanfromwakefield","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alanfromwakefield-2014-03-23T19:32:00.000Z-Talk:List_of_Geordie_songwriters","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-23T19:39:00.000Z-Alanfromwakefield-2014-03-23T19:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not urgent, but I'd like to consider the content further. Not a Geordie myself, being brought up quite a bit west along the A69. Still find this quite interesting to have a go at. I actually arrived through Robert Lambe, where I'll create an article about the right one. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:39, 23 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-23T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-23T19:39:00.000Z-Alanfromwakefield-2014-03-23T19:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I've begun preparing this using the book from the grant. The historical /architectural coverage in it is a bit sketchy even if a great book though but I can glean some useful facts from it at least. I'#ve begun brainstorming for sources in the talk page, can you help find some decent sources on its history/architecture and list them there?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-30T16:33:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-03-30T16:33:00.000Z-Althorp","replies":[]}}-->

In the Rees article I have a red link to Samuel F. Bradford, printer of the American edition. There is an article about him in the French Wiki, and my query is, how to make a direct link to it from my piece. I have tried adding fr:in front of Samuel, but that has the effect of disappearing the entire wording between the square brackets when saved. I suppose the easiest thing will be for me to write a new article about him, cribbing the info from the French one, but it would be nice to make proper acknowledgement. Thanks. Apwoolrich (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-30T18:34:00.000Z","author":"Apwoolrich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-30T18:34:00.000Z-A_technical_query","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-30T18:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

[[:fr:Samuel F. Bradford]] does it. The extra colon in front prevents it being taken as an actual interwiki link that should be in the sidebar. The same idea works for categories, by the way: [[:Category:London]] inline in text reads as Category:London, while [[Category:London]] inline anywhere is rendered at the bottom of the page. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-31T05:48:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-Apwoolrich-2014-03-30T18:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Apwoolrich-2014-03-31T06:42:00.000Z-Charles_Matthews-2014-03-31T05:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Hello, I don't know how to message you directly Charles, so I hope you don't mind that I do it this way and that it gets to you. With regards to your comments about the Toynbee Hall page and the need for there to be two seperate pages for the building and the charity, I don't think you fully understand the history. The building was built specifically for the charity. They go hand-in-hand. Therefore having two seperate pages would not be an honest reflection of either history. I am happy to remove the emotive tone to reduce the conflict of interest. So will start on that today. Many thanks, Alexandra08w — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandra08w (talk • contribs) 10:21, 2 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-02T10:21:00.000Z","author":"Alexandra08w","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alexandra08w-2014-04-02T10:21:00.000Z-Toynbee_Hall","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-02T11:12:00.000Z-Alexandra08w-2014-04-02T10:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Of course I don't mind being contacted here: it is what these pages are for.

I'm not an expert on Toynbee Hall, and my mind is not made up on splitting the article. There is a guideline at WP:CONSPLIT that notes some examples where closely-related topics are in separate articles.

What I note is that the article is rather suffering from the ambiguity. While it is clearly the case that it is a purpose-built structure, and with a charitable purpose, it might be much clearer for Wikipedia's purposes if the registered charity were in an article of its own. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-02T11:12:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-02T11:12:00.000Z-Alexandra08w-2014-04-02T10:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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The William addition at this edit probably needs a citation. I can see it in the birth registration but not sure what was your (non-research) link would be. Quick look doesn't find an obit. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-03T14:40:00.000Z","author":"Billinghurst","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Billinghurst-2014-04-03T14:40:00.000Z-Ernest_William_Radford","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-03T15:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2014-04-03T14:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

In an emergency, could be s:Page:Men-at-the-Bar.djvu/418. But it's actually in the Venn database ref, which these days we are supposed to call ACAD. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:36, 3 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-03T15:36:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-03T15:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2014-04-03T14:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Couldn't find an entry in DNB, only Arthur Graham.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:12, 7 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-07T08:12:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-04-07T08:12:00.000Z-Arthur_Graham_Tomson","replies":["c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-07T08:15:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-04-07T08:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Same guy as Arthur Tomson; Arthur Graham Tomson per the ODNB. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-07T08:15:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-07T08:15:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2014-04-07T08:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Was just about to start it and realized I'd already created Arthur Tomson! BTW I started List of Finnish writers the other day out of curiosity of what was missing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-07T08:21:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2014-04-07T08:21:00.000Z-Arthur_Graham_Tomson","replies":[]}}-->

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Well, the media have a slant on all this. I think the VLE does quite well on the social dimension, and also of course it explains how to do referencing. It doesn't cover research skills as such, which is actually one limiting factor. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-08T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Charles Matthews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Charles_Matthews-2014-04-08T19:05:00.000Z-Cmglee-2014-04-08T18:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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