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Thanks so much for reviewing this page. Would you be able to highlight specifically the language feel is promotional, advertorial or otherwise not neutral? This was written very carefully to be in Wikipedia's neutral style. There is no content that cannot be directly traced to one of the many high profile sources that are cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caffrey, Neil (talk • contribs) 17:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011172100","author":"Caffrey, Neil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caffrey,_Neil-20241011172100-Matador_Network_page_review","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241011174900-Caffrey,_Neil-20241011172100"]}}-->

Hi! The emphasis on numbers of followers, visitors, etc. in the lead, with things like is the largest independent online travel publisher definitely give a promotional aspect. This whole paragraph too:

After bootstrapping the company on $11,000, Borden scaled Matador Network into a seven-figure business and one of the largest travel brands on the web. Matador has thousands of travel writers, adventurers and influencers within its network, and has evolved from a branded content business into a full-fledged production studio making custom content for brands, hooking them up with its influencer network and distributing it to its millions of readers and social media followers.

Also, emphasizing likely non-notable rankings like Fast Company named Matador Network to its 2024 list of Most Innovative Companies, or some corporate keywords like a revamped platform, add to the promotional tone of the article. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011174900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241011174900-Caffrey,_Neil-20241011172100","replies":[]}}-->

I really appreciate this feedback! Updated the draft based on these comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caffrey, Neil (talk • contribs) 21:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014210300","author":"Caffrey, Neil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caffrey,_Neil-20241014210300-Matador_Network_page_review","replies":[]}}-->

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As you can see in the history, there is no point at all in rolling back a troll unless you can block them. Next time you see them, because you will likely see them again somewhere, just report them, so they don't have the satisfaction of putting it in the history a half a dozen times. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240927005300","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-20240927005300-Troll_at_ANI","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20240927005800-Drmies-20240927005300"]}}-->

@Drmies Thanks a lot! I reported both IPs when I saw them, but didn't know I shouldn't have rolled back their edits. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240927005800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20240927005800-Drmies-20240927005300","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi @Chaotic Enby. Thanks for your review of the new Operation Identification page. I revised the page attempting to respond to your {primary sources} tag: (1) I added a new secondary source (ref #1); (2) I added existing secondary sources as refs (from the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin journal) to some statements that were previously just see, e.g.-type citations to primary sources; and (3) I revised some of the article language to more accurately reflect analysis in the secondary source rather than relying solely on a primary source as a see, e.g.-type citation for analysis. I believe the article is now supported by appropriate secondary source citations and I tried to eliminate any analysis based solely on primary sources, but I welcome your additional discussion. If you still have concerns that prevent removing the {primary sources} tag, please help me understand which sections of the article you're concerned about. Thanks! Elindstr (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241001165700","author":"Elindstr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Elindstr-20241001165700-Operation_Identification_Flag","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241005222400-Elindstr-20241001165700"]}}-->

@Elindstr Thanks a lot! This is definitely an improvement, although the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin journal is still not fully independent (being also part of the FBI), and completely independent sources would be ideal. Also, the primary sources (for their respective claims) to the National Neighborhood Watch could be replaced by secondary ones, and it would be great to see if a published study reports the claim currently sourced to a letter by Allend Voss to the Attorney General. Still, it is already much better! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005222400","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241005222400-Elindstr-20241001165700","replies":["c-Elindstr-20241014005900-Chaotic_Enby-20241005222400"]}}-->

I exhaustively searched and located secondary sources and I've now taken the article as far as I'm interested. I'd like to remove the flag now and move on. OK with you? Elindstr (talk) 00:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014005900","author":"Elindstr","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Elindstr-20241014005900-Chaotic_Enby-20241005222400","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241014110000-Elindstr-20241014005900"]}}-->

Much better already, should be fine! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014110000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241014110000-Elindstr-20241014005900","replies":["c-Elindstr-20241014143100-Chaotic_Enby-20241014110000"]}}-->

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was i banned in the wikimedia discord server? sorry to bother you but i can't rejoin it tynjee 00:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003000900","author":"-tynjee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c--tynjee-20241003000900-wait_wha","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241003124600--tynjee-20241003000900"]}}-->

Hi! I genuinely don't know if you are banned, and can't do anything about this either way, I am not a moderator of the Discord sever. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003124600","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241003124600--tynjee-20241003000900","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks a lot! Happy to see Sawyer and PMC also got it, they really did a wonderful job! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007011600","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241007011600-DB1729-20241007005700","replies":[]}}-->

I almost denied it for being a copyright violation but then I noticed it does have a link to the source it uses in the last line where it says "In the spirit of education, National Purebred Dog Day maintains a website and social media presence." the link is in the word website. Shadow311 (talk) 23:03, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009230300","author":"Shadow311","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shadow311-20241009230300-About_recent_speedy_deletion.","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241009232600-Shadow311-20241009230300"]}}-->

Hi! Linking the source website does not prevent it from being a copyright violation. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009232600","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241009232600-Shadow311-20241009230300","replies":[]}}-->

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	That userpage is really something Dronebogus (talk) 21:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010210800","author":"Dronebogus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dronebogus-20241010210800-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241010210900-Dronebogus-20241010210800"]}}-->

Thanks!!! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:09, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010210900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241010210900-Dronebogus-20241010210800","replies":[]}}-->

On 11 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pesto (penguin), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a baby penguin from Australia is "an absolute unit"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pesto (penguin). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pesto (penguin)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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		Hook update
		Your hook reached 18,673 views (778.0 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of October 2024 – nice work!

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That was a constructive resolution, and I appreciate it! AntiDionysius (talk) 23:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012230200","author":"AntiDionysius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AntiDionysius-20241012230200-Thanks","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241012231000-AntiDionysius-20241012230200"]}}-->

You're welcome! Happy that I could help! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012231000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241012231000-AntiDionysius-20241012230200","replies":[]}}-->

I have been warned by the admin I am not allowed to Talk About that subject any further But I hope That he will not come after me for saying thank you for taking the time to answer me politely in that thread.

have a god day 109.64.53.152 (talk) 18:06, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018180600","author":"109.64.53.152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.64.53.152-20241018180600-Tank_you_for_your_answer","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241018200600-109.64.53.152-20241018180600"]}}-->

You're welcome! Just to be clear, the restrictions concern discussing the subject itself, but you are of course allow to ask about their extent or how they exist in practice. There is more information at Wikipedia:Contentious topics and Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict. And feel free to create an account if you want to! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:06, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018200600","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241018200600-109.64.53.152-20241018180600","replies":[]}}-->

Hlomla Dandala enquiry pertaining to the editing of the public figure's profile Sy McCarthy (talk) 01:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020010100","author":"Sy McCarthy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sy_McCarthy-20241020010100-Removing_of_an_edit","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241020010400-Sy_McCarthy-20241020010100"]}}-->

You shouldn't add text with a non-neutral tone like He has been one of the actors that took it upon themselves to advocate for the redressing of the injustices and adversities faced by artists in the entertainment industry. If you wish to add this, you should word it more neutrally, and source it to independent reliable sources making the claim. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020010400","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241020010400-Sy_McCarthy-20241020010100","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks a lot, just answered it! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023194300","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241023194300-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192800","replies":[]}}-->

My AfC needs references users say and it's disappointing because I need references to succeed. But help I don't have reference tool. So can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZiWinger (talk • contribs) 21:36, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023213600","author":"ZiWinger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ZiWinger-20241023213600-Reference_for_AfC._(small)_Draft:Westwood_Elementary_School]","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241023215000-ZiWinger-20241023213600"]}}-->

Hi, if you're using Visual Editor, you should have an integrated reference tool. Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/2 is the place for you! Otherwise, if you're using the source editor, then Wikipedia:RefToolbar should be available, with the "Cite" button being on the right of the toolbar. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023215000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241023215000-ZiWinger-20241023213600","replies":[]}}-->

Can you please help us understand what makes it not encyclopedic? RasDestaDamtew (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024211700","author":"RasDestaDamtew","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RasDestaDamtew-20241024211700-Health_Development_Partnership_for_Africa_and_Caribbean","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241024215700-RasDestaDamtew-20241024211700"]}}-->

Hi, the wording of the article is very much promotional and does not correspond to the neutral, encyclopedic tone expected. Wording like HeDPAC is led by prominent champions is clearly not neutral, and a lot of the article in general has a "corporate speak" tone – you can try to reword it by looking at other articles on similar initiatives!

Also, it would be good to clarify your connection with User:Alnjms, as you both created the same page at a close interval. Do you work together, or for HeDPAC, in any capacity? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024215700","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241024215700-RasDestaDamtew-20241024211700","replies":[]}}-->

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AI Cleanup § Media Request from Suisse Radio (French-speaking). 3df (talk) 09:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028092100","author":"3df","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-3df-20241028092100-Discussion_at_Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AI_Cleanup_\u00a7_Media_Request_from_Suisse","replies":[]}}-->

it not a type of pasta. It is the sheet we make types of pasta from. VECCHIASFLOGLINA (talk) 14:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030142800","author":"VECCHIASFLOGLINA","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20241030142800-Sfoglia","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241030145200-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20241030142800"]}}-->

If you want, you can move it to the top category "Pasta" instead. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030145200","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241030145200-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20241030142800","replies":["c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20241031011500-Chaotic_Enby-20241030145200"]}}-->

Grazie! VECCHIASFLOGLINA (talk) 01:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031011500","author":"VECCHIASFLOGLINA","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-VECCHIASFLOGLINA-20241031011500-Chaotic_Enby-20241030145200","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello, Chaotic Enby,

I noticed your comment in an ANI discussion about "109 countries" but I couldn't find a reference to that phrase on the article that you linked to. If it is not too offensive, could you tell me what this phrase is referring to? Because I'm clueless. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101025600","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20241101025600-ANI_comment","replies":["c-Sir_MemeGod-20241101142700-Liz-20241101025600"]}}-->

@Liz: Hi (since they haven't gotten back, I'll just quickly answer). The number 109 is white supremacist numeric shorthand for an antisemitic claim that Jews have been expelled from 109 different countries. (Sources on this are found here, here, here, here, here and here). Basically, it's never a good number when used in a context relating to Judaism. MemeGod _chat 14:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101142700","author":"Sir MemeGod","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sir_MemeGod-20241101142700-Liz-20241101025600","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241101143400-Sir_MemeGod-20241101142700"],"displayName":"MemeGod"}}-->

I was about to write an answer, but you beat me to it! Thanks for the links and the explanation – to be honest, I'm surprised it wasn't in the article I linked, although given the number of absurd claims I understand they can't all be in there... Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101143400","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241101143400-Sir_MemeGod-20241101142700","replies":["c-Sir_MemeGod-20241101143800-Chaotic_Enby-20241101143400"]}}-->

I will say that I had to do some digging too, I'd never heard of it before the whole userbox fiasco. :) MemeGod _chat 14:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101143800","author":"Sir MemeGod","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sir_MemeGod-20241101143800-Chaotic_Enby-20241101143400","replies":[],"displayName":"MemeGod"}}-->

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So thanks to trying to search for your username in the recall discussion (and due to the way my screen reader and speech synthesiser pronounce it, I now know that your username is "Chaotic Enby", not "Chaotic Envy". Apparently I'm not the first to make this mistake. "Chaotic Envy" would be a cool username as well though. :-) Graham87 (talk) 15:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101153800","author":"Graham87","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Graham87-20241101153800-Random_aside_re_talk_page_comment_at_Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_recall\/Graham8","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241101154500-Graham87-20241101153800"]}}-->

Thanks! If I ever need an alternate account for some reason, this definitely goes in my list of name ideas! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101154500","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241101154500-Graham87-20241101153800","replies":[]}}-->

On 5 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Methuselah (lungfish), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Methuselah likes belly rubs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Methuselah (lungfish). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Methuselah (lungfish)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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		Hook update
		Your hook reached 20,790 views (873.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of November 2024 – nice work!

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What a brilliant hook as well Kowal2701 (talk) 13:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105135400","author":"Kowal2701","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kowal2701-20241105135400-GalliumBot-20241108012800","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you for an unusual topic! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105083200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241105083200-DYK_for_Methuselah_(lungfish)","replies":[]}}-->

Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111150400","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241111150400-DYK_for_Methuselah_(lungfish)","replies":[]}}-->

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130205000","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241130205000-DYK_for_Methuselah_(lungfish)","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241130213100-Gerda_Arendt-20241130205000"]}}-->

My condolences for your friend. Wishing you the best. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241130213100","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241130213100-Gerda_Arendt-20241130205000","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you! - Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241216221300","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241216221300-DYK_for_Methuselah_(lungfish)","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20241218180500-Gerda_Arendt-20241216221300"]}}-->

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218180500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241218180500-Gerda_Arendt-20241216221300","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241218190900-Gerda_Arendt-20241218180500"]}}-->

Just saw the scarlet ibis, must have been an amazing experience in real life! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218190900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241218190900-Gerda_Arendt-20241218180500","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! How can I create a page? --Limelightmedia1991 (talk) 18:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105184200","author":"Limelightmedia1991","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Limelightmedia1991-20241105184200-Question_from_Limelightmedia1991_(18:42,_5_November_2024)","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241105190000-Limelightmedia1991-20241105184200"]}}-->

@Limelightmedia1991 Hello! The best way is to start by making sure the topic is notable. While there are quite a few complicated guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability, a much simpler overview is given at Wikipedia:42. Find a few in-depth references from independent reliable sources (interviews or press releases aren't considered independent for our purposes), so you can write the article from the information they give you.

Then, when you feel like writing, you can start with a draft. For that, you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, and read down to the "Click here to start a new article" button. Then, go through a few clicks to start a new, empty draft. When writing it, you can read Wikipedia:Your first article as a reference point. Once you have posted your edits and feel the article is ready, click "Submit" on the banner on top of it, and a reviewer will check the article for it to be published! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105190000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241105190000-Limelightmedia1991-20241105184200","replies":[]}}-->

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just came across your page and it is so cool!!!

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Huh, curious why I specifically got this message (I only reverted vandalism on the article a year ago), but agree with the PROD. Surprised it stayed around that long. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241126122900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241126122900-Bearian-20241126033000","replies":[]}}-->

Hello.How to edit pages --Inkyiniyan (talk) 07:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129071800","author":"Inkyiniyan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Inkyiniyan-20241129071800-Question_from_Inkyiniyan_(07:18,_29_November_2024)","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241129223700-Inkyiniyan-20241129071800"]}}-->

@Inkyiniyan Hello! When on a page, you will have, in the top-right corner, a tab reading "Edit". You can click on it to get the Visual Editor, which allows you to edit the pages and directly see what the result looks like. You may also have a tab reading "Edit source", giving you access to the source editor, a more code-like editing tool. There is more information at Help:Editing if you wish, and you can experiment at User:Inkyiniyan/sandbox. Good luck! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:37, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129223700","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241129223700-Inkyiniyan-20241129071800","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, First of all I would like to say that..Your Userpage is amazing and is among one of the most beautiful User pages I have ever came across. Secondly, There is a YouTuber named Nitish Rajput. He is very prominent in India. A year ago, an article was made about him but was deleted through PROD. Maybe at that time he wasn't notable. But still, then also some users in the AfD discussion had said that he might be notable after some time. Although, the article was then deleted. As an AfC reviewer and an experienced editor I would like to request you to please invest some of your valuable time and check if now he's notable or not and would it be justified to create a draft on him and submit it for AfC. I am not able to figure this out by myself and therefore requesting you to do so. As you know, It takes quiet long time to create any draft or article. So, it would be very helpful for me to know that if it would be good to create the draft or not. AstuteFlicker (talk) 11:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241201110600","author":"AstuteFlicker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AstuteFlicker-20241201110600-Query","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241201175900-AstuteFlicker-20241201110600"]}}-->

Hi! Thanks a lot for the compliment! Unfortunately, I am not the most knowledgeable person regarding Indian sourcing, and I do not speak any of the languages of India, so I might not be the best at searching for sources in this domain.

If you wish, Wikipedia:New page patrol source guide#India might be helpful regarding which sources can help provide notability, although it is far from complete. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241201175900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241201175900-AstuteFlicker-20241201110600","replies":["c-AstuteFlicker-20241201180200-Chaotic_Enby-20241201175900"]}}-->

No Problem! Thanks for the response :) AstuteFlicker (talk) 18:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241201180200","author":"AstuteFlicker","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AstuteFlicker-20241201180200-Chaotic_Enby-20241201175900","replies":[]}}-->

How do I create an article --Senior manchi (talk) 10:18, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241202101800","author":"Senior manchi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Senior_manchi-20241202101800-Question_from_Senior_manchi_(10:18,_2_December_2024)","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241202102800-Senior_manchi-20241202101800"]}}-->

@Senior manchi Hi! For new users, the best bet is to go through the articles for creation process! The first thing you'll want to do is look for sources about the article's topic, and use the information from these sources to write a draft, which you can then submit for it to be reviewed! A common pitfall for new editors is to write the article backwards, first writing it and then looking for sources to support it, which is often much harder to do. There is more information out there at Help:Your first article if you want! Good luck! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241202102800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241202102800-Senior_manchi-20241202101800","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, I just sent an email, asking for a very specific help. Thank you so much for your time! Phoebezz22 (talk) Phoebezz22 (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241202182000","author":"Phoebezz22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phoebezz22-20241202182000-Ask_for_help","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241202183400-Phoebezz22-20241202182000"]}}-->

@Phoebezz22 Thanks a lot! Just replied to you by email! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241202183400","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241202183400-Phoebezz22-20241202182000","replies":[]}}-->

I understand that Pygsuia Biforma is the only species in its genus, but I don't understand why that means that an article about it should be changed so that its title and description are about the genus and not the species. This happens in a lot of taxonomy articles and was curious about the reason. Haplodiploid75 (talk) 12:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241204120400","author":"Haplodiploid75","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Haplodiploid75-20241204120400-Pygsuia_being_changed_to_a_Genus?","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241204121300-Haplodiploid75-20241204120400"]}}-->

Usually, when a genus has a single species, having both articles would be redundant, and by convention the article is placed at the genus level (WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA). This is really just a matter of convention to keep things consistent, and the convention itself is ultimately pretty arbitrary (for instance, French Wikipedia places the article at the species level, if I remember correctly). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241204121300","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241204121300-Haplodiploid75-20241204120400","replies":["c-Haplodiploid75-20241204122400-Chaotic_Enby-20241204121300"]}}-->

Okay. Makes sense to keep it then. I’ll add a line about this being the only species in the genus so the other stuff makes sense Haplodiploid75 (talk) 12:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241204122400","author":"Haplodiploid75","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Haplodiploid75-20241204122400-Chaotic_Enby-20241204121300","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241204125900-Haplodiploid75-20241204122400"]}}-->

Thanks a lot! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241204125900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241204125900-Haplodiploid75-20241204122400","replies":[]}}-->

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Please do not tag citations from Perseus or Topos texts as AI generated. They do not generate anything, nor use AI to translate their texts. As they state here (Perseus) and here (Topos text) they simply collate works in the public domain to be accessible to modern users. I saw you used AWB to make those edits, so I think perhaps you might want to review those edits that have been made to make sure there aren't any more mistakes. AD Vortigern (talk) 12:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210124600","author":"AD Vortigern","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AD_Vortigern-20241210124600-Tagging_Perseus_and_Topos_texts_as_AI_generated","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241210125500-AD_Vortigern-20241210124600"]}}-->

@AD Vortigern The tagged source was https://topostext.org/work/860, which was explicitly translated with GPT4. To quote the source itself: Scholia to Lycophron's Alexandra, marginal notes by Isaak and Ioannis Tzetzes and others, from the Greek edition of Eduard Scheer (Weidmann 1881) (downloadable at archive.org, translated by CHATGPT 4.0 with more speed than accuracy, with prompts and work-arounds by Bruce Hartzler and a few manual improvements (?) by Brady Kiesling. This text has 2332 tagged references to 543 ancient places. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210125500","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241210125500-AD_Vortigern-20241210124600","replies":["c-AD_Vortigern-20241210143400-Chaotic_Enby-20241210125500"]}}-->

Ah, I see a problem then. The translations are accurate enough, << Compare TT's version of §184: ("Skyrian dragon" refers to Neoptolemus because of his murderous and bloodthirsty nature; for according to some, Neoptolemus was raised only in Skyros (90 13), but according to me, he was also born there from Deidamia, the daughter of Lycomedes. Skyros is one of the Cyclades islands.) with the translation in S. Hornblower's Lykophoron: Alexandra : (The phrase "Skyrian dragon" is referring to Neoptolemus due to his violent nature, and the fact that he was born on Skyros, one of the Kykladian islands. I have also heard that he was born there to Deidamia, the daughter of Lycomedes.) >>, but as much as that is the case you're right and they have unambiguously used ChatGPT to help them translate. My issue is that the tag you provided makes it seems like the two sources (TT & Perseus) are unreliable, when they very much aren't. As you're clearly more well versed in Wikipedia's policies than I am, could you perhaps change the tag to something less ambiguous? AD Vortigern (talk) 14:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210143400","author":"AD Vortigern","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AD_Vortigern-20241210143400-Chaotic_Enby-20241210125500","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241210151800-AD_Vortigern-20241210143400"]}}-->

To be fair, that's a point where two policies intersect in a less-than-productive way. We're supposed to put the citation maintenance tags outside the footnote itself, so potential issues are immediately visible to readers, but that is not practical when the footnote bundles several references as it makes it harder to see which one is the issue. I don't see an obvious way to have both work together, but I'm open to solutions! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210151800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241210151800-AD_Vortigern-20241210143400","replies":[]}}-->

How can you become a registered user? --Mycatloafedonmehelp (talk) 19:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241211193400","author":"Mycatloafedonmehelp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mycatloafedonmehelp-20241211193400-Question_from_Mycatloafedonmehelp_(19:34,_11_December_2024)","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241211204100-Mycatloafedonmehelp-20241211193400"]}}-->

@Mycatloafedonmehelp Hi! Registered just means having an account, so you are already registered! After four days and 10 edits, you become autoconfirmed, giving you access to most editor-only functionalities, like directly creating articles or editing most protected pages. Welcome to Wikipedia, and good luck! (Great username, btw!) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241211204100","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241211204100-Mycatloafedonmehelp-20241211193400","replies":[]}}-->

Hi! You reviewed a draft I made. I edited the language. I do not agree with the point you made here a bout Forbes article. I do not see any issues with it and would like to keep it. As you can see, there are many other articles with an extensive coverage. A Forbes article provides a good overview of the designs. When you open it, you can see it is a prominent contributor in the filed for Forbes. Would appreciate if you can take a look. I edited text, because it was made with ai before. I asked it to gather the highlights about the designer.

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@Moondust534 Hi, thanks a lot for looking at the article again. It is strongly suggested to write the article in your own words, and you should at least check if what the AI outputs is correct (as everything you publish, including AI-generated, is your responsibility). Regarding Forbes, it isn't my opinion but the consensus of the community (WP:FORBESCON) that articles published by Forbes Contributors, even "Senior Contributors", rather than Forbes Staff, are usually not reliable and do not count for notability. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241211203800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241211203800-Moondust534-20241211194600","replies":[]}}-->

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For the record, noting that this user has been blocked as a sockpuppet. I was genuinely very confused as to how to answer, so that solves it at least. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241217125000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241217125000-Fxvd_dbbddnndn-20241212101200","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks! Not against merging, honestly. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241214011100","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241214011100-SDZeroBot-20241214010100","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, that is the correct action. I forgot to do that. Thanks, Kjkolb (talk) 22:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215222500","author":"Kjkolb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kjkolb-20241215222500-Regarding_article_\"therapeutic_use\"","replies":[]}}-->

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@Joe John Michael Hello! Your draft was nearly empty (only an infobox) and did not provide context or reliable sources (for instance, film reviews) demonstrating the notability of the film. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241217124900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241217124900-Joe_John_Michael-20241217124100","replies":[]}}-->

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You made some edits to WP:NTK about three months ago. Could you take a look at my recent edits, which were reverted for no apparent reason? They all seemed reasonable to me, unless I am really misunderstanding something. 103.115.23.42 (talk) 01:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219014400","author":"103.115.23.42","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-103.115.23.42-20241219014400-WP:NTK","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241219091300-103.115.23.42-20241219014400"]}}-->

Hi! Your edits look pretty good, although some were pretty major changes. The editor who reverted you only said "discuss", so the best thing would be to get consensus on the talk page (WP:BRD). This page also has a history of sockpuppetry, so that may be why some editors are unusually wary about changes made there. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219091300","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241219091300-103.115.23.42-20241219014400","replies":["c-Jauerback-20241219131500-Chaotic_Enby-20241219091300"]}}-->

That pretty much sums it up perfectly. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219131500","author":"Jauerback","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jauerback-20241219131500-Chaotic_Enby-20241219091300","replies":["c-Leijurv-20241222203700-Jauerback-20241219131500"]}}-->

(follow-up FYI: this looked like the same sockpuppet to me, and then Spicy proxy blocked) Leijurv (talk) 20:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222203700","author":"Leijurv","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Leijurv-20241222203700-Jauerback-20241219131500","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222212900-Leijurv-20241222203700"]}}-->

Well, good catch! Wondering if page protection might be needed or not. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222212900","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222212900-Leijurv-20241222203700","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Chaotic Enby,

Thanks for being my mentor. Please help me with the pointers on how to start.

Thanks,

Zolisa Memani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zolisa Memani (talk • contribs) 19:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220195600","author":"Zolisa Memani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zolisa_Memani-20241220195600-How_do_I_start_to_upload_my_profile","replies":["c-Cremastra-20241221011800-Zolisa_Memani-20241220195600","c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222113200-Zolisa_Memani-20241220195600"]}}-->

Zolisa Memani, I'm not Chaotic Enby, but I'm a little worried you might be starting on the wrong foot here. Wikipedia doesn't have "profiles" like social media. There are userpages, but their goal is to just give a little friendly information about yourself, on the side as it were. Our main goal here is improving the encyclopedia, directly, or behind the scenes. If you're looking for somewhere to start editing, I'd suggest going to our task centre or your homepage. If you're ambitious, you can even draft an article based on reliable sources on a topic that meets our "notability" (inclusion) guidelines and submit for review.

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Hi! @Cremastra gave you a very good summary – if you want to start with writing a short introduction on your user page, that's fine, but the goal of Wikipedia is the encyclopedia part! Please note that user pages are also pretty different from encyclopedia pages: you can see the difference between User:Jimbo Wales and Jimmy Wales, for instance. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222113200","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222113200-Zolisa_Memani-20241220195600","replies":[]}}-->

Hi! What might be the proper protocol for handling articles that pass through AfC but are AI-generated? I'm specifically looking at a trail of med articles that look good but aren't -- all by the same author. See 2-Aminoadipic-2-oxoadipic aciduria, for example, which (understandably) passed through AfC. Per the Wiki GPTzero tool, this has a 99.8% AI score. I'm of course thinking about this article and ones like it, but I'm also curious how to handle stuff like this moving forward. Also, feel free to point me somewhere else. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 07:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222073600","author":"Significa liberdade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Significa_liberdade-20241222073600-AI-generated_drafts\/articles","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222114800-Significa_liberdade-20241222073600","c-Significa_liberdade-20241224011800-Significa_liberdade-20241222073600"],"displayName":"Significa liberdade (she\/her)"}}-->

@Significa liberdade Thanks a lot for the question! Especially with medical articles, the best bet should be to double-check if the content matches the citations if you can, or ask more specialized editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. If all of these articles were created by the same person, it could be good to send them a human-written message on their talk page to explain them that this isn't the right way to go, and tell them about WP:MEDRS. If they continue after that, ANI and/or a mainspace pblock might be needed, as this is clearly disruptive.

More generally, if you encounter editors repeatedly adding AI-generated articles, the best is to warn them and firmly explain them that this is not recommended, and take further action if they continue (or have already been warned before). Regarding the articles themselves: if notability is there and they passed through AfC/were already moved from draftspace, there isn't much more to do than slap a few maintenance tags and/or cleanup anything that seems suspicious.

(Also noting that "completely AI-generated" is not an actual CSD criterion, and, with the latitude allowed in draftspace, Draft:Catecholaminergic Neurodysregulation Syndrome probably shouldn't have been deleted. Not a big deal, but good to know for the future!) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222114800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241222114800-Significa_liberdade-20241222073600","replies":["c-Significa_liberdade-20241222164500-Chaotic_Enby-20241222114800"]}}-->

Thank you for your quick reply! Given the content is highly specialized, I do not feel confident being able to go through them. As such, I have posted a request for review at WP Medicine.

I also appreciate the next step suggestions and have undeleted Draft:Catecholaminergic Neurodysregulation Syndrome. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241222164500","author":"Significa liberdade","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Significa_liberdade-20241222164500-Chaotic_Enby-20241222114800","replies":[],"displayName":"Significa liberdade (she\/her)"}}-->

Hi again! I have a quick question/concern regarding the Wiki GPTzero tool, specifically looking at the article Bile acid synthesis disorders. When the current page is run through Wiki GPTzero tool, I'm told the AI-gen score is 99.8%. However, when running a historical version of the article (without any changes to the actual text except the addition of a maintenance tag), I'm told the AI-score is 1.7%. Do you know what might be causing this? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241224011800","author":"Significa liberdade","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Significa_liberdade-20241224011800-Significa_liberdade-20241222073600","replies":["c-Chaotic_Enby-20241224123800-Significa_liberdade-20241224011800"],"displayName":"Significa liberdade (she\/her)"}}-->

@Significa liberdade Well, that's certainly weird. Apparently, the bug comes from the way GPTZero retrieves data from the historical version. Instead of the actual text, it seems to be scanning a completely different page about HTTP protocols, which appears to be the text of Web server directory index. My hypothesis for what is happening is that the URL parsing tools reads https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php and interprets it as the Wikipedia page index.php, which does redirect to Web server directory index and explains that inconsistent result. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241224123800","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20241224123800-Significa_liberdade-20241224011800","replies":[]}}-->

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