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Hello, I just wanted to apologize. I saw you reverted my edit on Irish Freedom Party, when I switched "protester" to "protestor." I changed that based on Commonly misspelled English words. I did notice that a few Irish articles often (though not always) used protestor and I did some light research, but didn't see anything that said it was Hiberno English. Obviously, I didn't look hard enough. That being said, there are a few other articles where I changed it but didn't know. I'll do my best to go back and fix it, but I wanted to apologize in case you come across more since you appear to be quite active on Irish Wikipedia. Cheers. Mukedits (talk) 00:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104003000","author":"Mukilteoedits","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mukilteoedits-20240104003000-Protester_vs._Protestor","replies":["c-Alison-20240104004300-Mukilteoedits-20240104003000"],"displayName":"Mukedits"}}-->

• Hey there - honestly no need to apologise (apologiZe) for a difference in dialect. It's really nuanced. If you look online, you'll see that US sources, particularly AP, tend to use protester and various websites say it's preferred. Almost all of them tend to be US-based sources, so you're getting the American English bias. Hiberno English, or Irish-English, tends to more align with British English - see here for one explanation. For our articles here, look out for {{use Hiberno-English}}, {{Use British English}} or {{use Australian English}} in the header, which will add Category:All Wikipedia articles written in Hiberno-English maintenance/hidden category to the article and will give you a hint as to which standard is preferred for that specific article. And thank you for tirelessly working on spelling mistakes - that's important work - Alison ^talk 00:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104004300","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240104004300-Mukilteoedits-20240104003000","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks! - Alison ^talk 13:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104133800","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Alison-20240104133800-Ww2censor-20240104124800","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Alison! Would you be willing to use your CheckUser special powders to glance at this editor to see if their account has been compromised? This is a very strange edit after 24 hours of not editing (and with no further edits since) after a run of vandalism on that template by an IP.

No need to tell me, a random IP, the outcome, feel free to nuke this section once you're done. Thank you! 81.187.192.168 (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240203165800","author":"81.187.192.168","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-81.187.192.168-20240203165800-Compromised_account_check","replies":["c-Blueskiesdry-20240203233800-81.187.192.168-20240203165800"]}}-->

Sorry, I thought I was reverting the vandalism instead of the restoration. I apologize for the confusion. Blueskiesdry (talk) 23:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240203233800","author":"Blueskiesdry","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Blueskiesdry-20240203233800-81.187.192.168-20240203165800","replies":["c-Alison-20240203234500-Blueskiesdry-20240203233800"]}}-->

no worries! Thank you both :) - Alison ^talk 23:45, 3 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240203234500","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Alison-20240203234500-Blueskiesdry-20240203233800","replies":["c-Blueskiesdry-20240204004900-Alison-20240203234500"]}}-->

I am willing to be trout slapped fyi. Blueskiesdry (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240204004900","author":"Blueskiesdry","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Blueskiesdry-20240204004900-Alison-20240203234500","replies":[]}}-->

Happy First Edit Day! Hi Alison! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216023500","author":"The Herald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Herald-20240216023500-Happy_First_Edit_Day!","replies":[],"displayName":"The Herald (Benison)"}}-->

Dear Alison/Archive 90,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 14:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216143500","author":"Chris troutman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chris_troutman-20240216143500-Invitation_to_join_the_Twenty_Year_Society","replies":[]}}-->

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Alison! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:43, 21 March 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240321014300","author":"The Herald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Herald-20240321014300-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!","replies":[],"displayName":"The Herald (Benison)"}}-->

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240513065600","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240513065600-Always_precious","replies":["c-Alison-20240516144500-Gerda_Arendt-20240513065600"]}}-->

• Thank you :) I'm not around nearly as much these days, but it's lovely to hear from you! - Alison ^talk 14:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240516144500","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240516144500-Gerda_Arendt-20240513065600","replies":[]}}-->

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• Article was switched to a redirect, which may have been a little hasty, maybe. Reverted and added a ref - Alison ^talk 23:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240527232700","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240527232700-B-bot-20240527223200","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for fixing the link to Irish potato famine. When I did the review back in April, this stuck out to me, but I wasn't certain if I should have requested a change. Is the reasoning simply that it's an older, non-inclusive term that has fallen out of use, or is there another reason? Viriditas (talk) 23:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726234800","author":"Viriditas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Viriditas-20240726234800-Re:_A_History_of_English_Food","replies":["c-Alison-20240727020900-Viriditas-20240726234800","c-Alison-20240727021600-Viriditas-20240726234800"]}}-->

• Hi there! It's complicated, but let me see if I can summarise. Firstly, it's never referred to as the "Irish Potato Famine" in Ireland, or the "Potato Famine" - it's The Great Famine, the Great Hunger, or An Gorta Mór / An Drochshaol in Irish. The potato term seems to have been popularised in the US, for some reason, but it's far from universal. As the page says, the proximate cause was potato blight, but reality is more nuanced. There's the fact that it was largely a monoculture due to circumstances where absentee landlordism, colonialism and the last vestiges of thePenal Laws meant that families had little alternative to feed themselves. When the crops failed, the British government initially provided some aid but that eventually dried up - partly due to Charles Trevelyan's belief that this was a just punishment on the Irish for their perceived laziness. As the population of Ireland dropped from around 8m to 4m in just over five years, many today consider this a deliberate genocide (I disagree). Thus, the term "Irish Potato Famine" can be seen as a whitewash to some, and a way of blaming the people themselves for their fate, when reality was far more complex. And frankly, I'd rather defer to the people themselves to determine the name of the event - Alison ^talk 02:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC) (disclaimer - I'm Irish-born)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727020900","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240727020900-Viriditas-20240726234800","replies":[]}}-->
• Here's a quote from Thomas Robert Malthus;

“The land in Ireland is infinitely more peopled than in England; and to give full effect to the natural resources of the country, a great part of the population should be swept from the soil.”

• And one from Trevelyan himself;

“The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people.”

• - Alison ^talk 02:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727021600","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240727021600-Viriditas-20240726234800","replies":["c-Viriditas-20240727084700-Alison-20240727021600","c-Gerda_Arendt-20240729190100-Alison-20240727021600"]}}-->
  • Thank you for the education. It's strange that we still use the term "potato famine" in the US when more than six million emigrated here over a larger period of time. You would think they would try and change it in the school books. Anyway, I appreciate your help. One other thing that's bothering me: I made a comment about Dún Briste last week here. Any idea about this? Viriditas (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727084700","author":"Viriditas","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Viriditas-20240727084700-Alison-20240727021600","replies":[]}}-->

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  • Thank you for explaining, Alison, and - at least for me - it's not a waste of time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240729190100","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240729190100-Alison-20240727021600","replies":["c-Alison-20240729222000-Gerda_Arendt-20240729190100"]}}-->
    • Thank you, Gerda - that's very kind :) - Alison ^talk 22:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240729222000","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Alison-20240729222000-Gerda_Arendt-20240729190100","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20240730212900-Alison-20240729222000"]}}-->
      • Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b will have a baritone, a violinist, a composer and a Bach cantata, - almost too much, and the composer's article, Wolfgang Rihm, should be better, help wanted. - Plenty of music on my parents anniversary day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240730212900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240730212900-Alison-20240729222000","replies":[]}}-->

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Today I have three "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240808150000","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240808150000-August_music","replies":[]}}-->

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240813122800","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813122800-August_music","replies":["c-Alison-20240814162900-Gerda_Arendt-20240813122800"]}}-->

• That's very lovely indeed & thank you for sharing - Alison ^talk 16:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240814162900","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20240814162900-Gerda_Arendt-20240813122800","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20240815202500-Alison-20240814162900"]}}-->

  Thank you! - a new story every day ;) - today's story is about education, 10 years OTD after lecturing our founder). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240815202500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240815202500-Alison-20240814162900","replies":[]}}-->

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