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Knowledge - is fine - this is wikipedia and assertions are one thing - here we need WP:RS to verify for WP:V - thanks JarrahTree 01:37, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-23T01:37:00.000Z","author":"JarrahTree","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JarrahTree-2019-07-23T01:37:00.000Z-July_2019","replies":[]}}-->

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United States vs. North America

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That's rather subjective. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-14T13:32:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-08-14T13:32:00.000Z-August_2019_2","replies":[]}}-->

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Music of the United States

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Two things....

1. Wikipedia is not the place to right great wrongs. Please click on that link and have a read.

2. This particular article refers explicitly to the United States in its name. To write in this article as if it is some sort of politically arguable entity is simply inappropriate. That business belongs elsewhere, not in this encyclopaedia. HiLo48 (talk) 22:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-20T22:41:00.000Z","author":"HiLo48","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HiLo48-2019-08-20T22:41:00.000Z-Music_of_the_United_States","replies":[]}}-->

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Hesperoyucca whipplei

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Your desperation to avoid mentioning the United States is leading to silliness. You cannot claim that the North American Southwest is the same as western United States. North America does stop at the Mexican border. It goes all the way to Panama. "The North American Southwest" MUST describe something south of the United States. Stop mangling the language for ideological reasons. HiLo48 (talk) 08:23, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-29T08:23:00.000Z","author":"HiLo48","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HiLo48-2019-08-29T08:23:00.000Z-Hesperoyucca_whipplei","replies":[]}}-->

The article specifically mentioned pre-Columbian times, which was before the United States was founded. Since you insist, I changed it to avoid saying "North American Southwest" and instead clarify that it refers the "Southwest" cultural region. That is what it is called. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-29T18:13:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-08-29T18:13:00.000Z-Hesperoyucca_whipplei","replies":[]}}-->

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September 2019

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Please be aware of where the Eastern Woodlands link goes, hint ... not where you may think. Vsmith (talk) 21:55, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-27T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vsmith-2019-09-27T21:55:00.000Z-September_2019","replies":[]}}-->

I'm aware. What's wrong with it? 50.68.172.46 (talk) 21:57, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-27T21:57:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-09-27T21:57:00.000Z-September_2019","replies":[]}}-->

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Explanations

Hi! If you'd be willing to explain on the talk pages why you're changing the locations, that would probably help keep you from being reverted repeatedly. A lot of us who watch for vandalism are watching for patterns, and it might help if you explained what was happening, either here on your talk page, or on the talk pages of the articles themselves. Thanks! OwnstheBeagles (talk) 23:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-28T23:50:00.000Z","author":"OwnstheBeagles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OwnstheBeagles-2019-09-28T23:50:00.000Z-Explanations","replies":[]}}-->

The reason for these edits is that species ranges are based on ecoregions, not modern-day states. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-27T21:35:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-09-27T21:35:00.000Z-Explanations","replies":[]}}-->

Stop doing that with no explanation, thanks. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 17:19, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-28T17:19:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-09-28T17:19:00.000Z-Explanations","replies":["c-Hyperik-2019-09-28T19:09:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-28T17:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Most of your edits lack edit summaries as well. But, undoing the politically motivated erasure of geopolitical boundaries commonly used in reliable sources to describe the distribution of taxa doesn't really require an explanation. —Hyperik talk 19:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-28T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Hyperik","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hyperik-2019-09-28T19:09:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-28T17:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z-Hyperik-2019-09-28T19:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
The point is that including them at all is political; not having them isn't. A lot of the time it's unnecessary to even refer to them with their modern boundaries, like "United States and Canda" is more conveniently worded as "North America". 50.68.172.46 (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z-Hyperik-2019-09-28T19:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hyperik-2019-09-29T13:32:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z","c-Peter_coxhead-2019-09-30T15:07:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
"United States and Canada" is much more precise than "North America". See the area and list of countries at North_America#Extent. Another example that you've changed: "southeastern United States" means something quite different than "southeastern North America". —Hyperik talk 13:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-29T13:32:00.000Z","author":"Hyperik","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hyperik-2019-09-29T13:32:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
There's nothing wrong with using a higher level area description if it is more-or-less completely inclusive and clear, e.g. replacing a long list of European countries by "Europe". Replacing "Canada and the US" by "North America" is inaccurate (or at least unclear, since definitions of North/Northern America differ). Peter coxhead (talk) 15:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-30T15:07:00.000Z","author":"Peter coxhead","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Peter_coxhead-2019-09-30T15:07:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-09-29T00:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I reverted most of your recent edits for North American lakes and mountains that inserted (or worse still, replaced existing) locations such as Laurentia (bioregion) or Cascadia (bioregion) in the lead sentence. Bioregion is a specialist term from World Wildlife Fund pertaining to wildlife, and should be used only in narrow contexts of botany and conservation. They certainly do not belong to definitions of geographic features, and most readers will find reference to "Laurentia" rather than "Ontario" downright confusing. I'm sorry, but thank you for understanding. No such user (talk) 07:28, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-16T07:28:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-No_such_user-2019-10-16T07:28:00.000Z-Bioregions","replies":[]}}-->

Actually, they do. Definitions of "bioregion" often include things like rivers and mountains. Those things have an inherent role in their local ecosystems. Also, readers come here to learn about new things, and they're welcome to click on the link if they don't know what it means. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 00:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-17T00:48:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-10-17T00:48:00.000Z-Bioregions","replies":["c-No_such_user-2019-10-17T06:46:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-10-17T00:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

WP:Lead section should define the topic and summarize the article contents, which are, in turn, supposed to be based on contents of reliable sources according to due weight. So, unless multiple sources explicitly state that Lake Huron is part of Laurentia while describing the lake, we should include that factoid either, particularly not in the lead. I don't find the argument about readers coming here to learn particularly persuasive, since it could be used as a justification to bury every article in a heap of barely relevant information.
I'm not opposed to having Pacific Northwest as a part of the definition, since it's a relatively well-known thing, but things like Laurentia and Cascadia are no-go.No such user (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-17T06:46:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-No_such_user-2019-10-17T06:46:00.000Z-50.68.172.46-2019-10-17T00:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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A lot of your recent edits to subjects relative to Australia actually need conversation and consensus before changing - a very good idea to take your concerns to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board - specially if someone starts reverting your edits without discussion and simply assumes that your perspective is misreading what the differences are between the designated country or physiographical region are 'inside' the articles. Be also careful with assumptions without adequate WP:RS to back up your argument. JarrahTree 05:38, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-17T05:38:00.000Z","author":"JarrahTree","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JarrahTree-2019-10-17T05:38:00.000Z-countries,_continents,_and_context","replies":[]}}-->

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Why does that need a source? It's just changing the word order. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 18:45, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-18T18:45:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-10-18T18:45:00.000Z-October_2019","replies":[]}}-->

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Are you the same editor as User: Ffrrrrgus who seems to be conducting a similar little POV war? Orenburg1 (talk) 08:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-08T08:53:00.000Z","author":"Orenburg1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Orenburg1-2019-11-08T08:53:00.000Z-November_2019","replies":["c-50.68.172.46-2019-11-11T17:50:00.000Z-Orenburg1-2019-11-08T08:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, we're working with each other. 50.68.172.46 (talk) 17:50, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-11T17:50:00.000Z","author":"50.68.172.46","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-50.68.172.46-2019-11-11T17:50:00.000Z-Orenburg1-2019-11-08T08:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->