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But I can't help feeling it'd be better to have the stations in geographical order. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 14:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-06T14:52:00.000Z","author":"ArtVandelay13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ArtVandelay13-2008-08-06T14:52:00.000Z-Nice_template","replies":["c-Cnbrb-2008-08-06T21:50:00.000Z-ArtVandelay13-2008-08-06T14:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

This is fulfilled by the succession templates on articles, and the excellent map is linked directly for this information - the navbox serves to enable easy navigation, and alphabetical is the obvious and easy way of finding a station by name. I would leave it A-Z as this is typical of navboxes and easier for the user to navigate. But thanks! Cnbrb (talk) 21:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-06T21:50:00.000Z","author":"Cnbrb","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cnbrb-2008-08-06T21:50:00.000Z-ArtVandelay13-2008-08-06T14:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

As of today, 9 December 2012, these stations are now served by London Overground. Once I work out how it’s done, I’ll have a go at changing this in the template, probably around 12 hours from now. Osterforde ✉ 09:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-09T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Osterforde","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Osterforde-2012-12-09T09:05:00.000Z-\u2018South_London_Line\u2019_section","replies":["c-Alteran_Ancient-2012-12-11T19:38:00.000Z-Osterforde-2012-12-09T09:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Did that for you without even looking here first. Sorry! Moved the SLL up to Current routes and stuck it in A-Z order. --Alteran Ancient (talk) 19:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-11T19:38:00.000Z","author":"Alteran Ancient","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alteran_Ancient-2012-12-11T19:38:00.000Z-Osterforde-2012-12-09T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Osterforde-2012-12-12T02:17:00.000Z-Alteran_Ancient-2012-12-11T19:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks! I was a bit stuck with exactly how to go about that. Osterforde ✉ 02:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-12T02:17:00.000Z","author":"Osterforde","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Osterforde-2012-12-12T02:17:00.000Z-Alteran_Ancient-2012-12-11T19:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Is there a particular reason why TfL Rail has been included in this navbox? Not only is TfL Rail on a different network/mode to the Overground services, it appears its inclusion has been rendered defunct by the Template:Crossrail navbox that is included on all relevant station articles and lists all of the present TfL Rail stations featured in this navbox. Would anybody object to its removal? – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 13:08, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_TfL_Rail","replies":["c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:11:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z","c-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Edit: Ping original editor Likelife – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 13:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T13:11:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:11:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It looks like the original addition in March 2015 was made with the rationale "added TFL Rail until Crossrail opens" - so my guess is there would be little objection to moving everything to the Template:Crossrail navbox. Cnbrb (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z","author":"Cnbrb","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-21T13:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z","c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T04:45:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

That may have been the original intent, but with all present TfL Rail stations and future E-line stations listed in each route/date configuration (Liverpool Street–Shenfield and Paddington–Heathrow) on the Crossrail navbox. Logically, the TfL Rail name should be included on that navbox, not this one. TfL Rail is unaffiliated with the Overground and is on a separate transport mode. Its inclusion on the current template is arguably unnecessary. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 01:34, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Edit: If there are no objections within the week, I will happily make the edit to remove it. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 04:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T04:45:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T04:45:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-29T07:35:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T04:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Removed. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 07:35, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-29T07:35:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-29T07:35:00.000Z-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T04:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I saw that these have been added to the template again. There was an attempt to add these in January 2016 which was subsequently reverted. Obviously this is a good faith addition, but I suspect it may get reverted. I'm undecided about them myself, but they may cause readability issues. There is probably a Wiki guideline somewhere (like MOS:FLAGS) which might offer advice... anyone have a particular view? Cnbrb (talk) 14:52, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Cnbrb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:52:00.000Z-Interchange_symbols","replies":["c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I added the interchange symbols to this navbox in line with literally all other TfL navboxes including Template:Crossrail navbox, Template:Tramlink navbox, and all of the individual Underground line navboxes (i.e. Template: Central line navbox). Their inclusion on these templates has notably existed for a significant period of time, with mode icons on the Central line navbox[1], the Tramlink navbox[2] both being added in October 2009, strangely enough, by the user that is now rejecting their consistent inclusion on the Overground navbox. There also appears to have been no ill-effects on these templates concerning readability during that time. I would argue that they do serve a purpose in clearly displaying which stations commuters can interchange with other modes of transport. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 01:34, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z","author":"Nick Mitchell 98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nick_Mitchell_98-2018-06-22T01:34:00.000Z-Cnbrb-2018-06-21T14:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->