Template talk:Electronics industry in Japan

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What is this template for?

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Category:Electronics companies of Japan is already there. What is this template for? There needs to be a clear definition of which companies/brands should and shouldn't be in the template.--Krtek2125 20:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-29T20:15:00.000Z","author":"Krtek2125","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Krtek2125-2006-10-29T20:15:00.000Z-What_is_this_template_for?","replies":[]}}-->

Agreed. This template is a mess, as it includes brands (e.g. National) and parent companies (e.g. Panasonic). I think brands and also companies that has long since exited the electronics market (e.g. Sega) shouldn't be listed. I think this template needs to be updated in addition to this article --Aizuku (talk) 05:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-11T05:24:00.000Z","author":"Aizuku","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aizuku-2009-10-11T05:24:00.000Z-What_is_this_template_for?","replies":[]}}-->

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Possible updated template

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I still think it needs to be simpler, maybe categorize companies, since there are more specialized companies like Nikon and Nintendo, and diversified companies like Sony and Toshiba. --12:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aizuku (talkcontribs)

The following is just an idea, a hint of how it should be, the categories are not final, only meant as an illustration:

In this example I've listed some companies more than once, where valid, I'm not sure if this is for the best or not.

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Removed Technics, Quasar and National since they are Panasonic brands, removed Buffalo since it redirects to Melco. Added JVC Kenwood Holdings. I think sub-brands of a company shouldn't be listed. --Aizuku (talk) 08:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-13T08:14:00.000Z","author":"Aizuku","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aizuku-2010-02-13T08:14:00.000Z-Removed_and_added_a_few_links","replies":[]}}-->

Commented Minolta out, there is already an entry for Konica Minolta, and Konica didn't exist on the template before. It was only logical. --Aizuku (talk) 12:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-24T12:51:00.000Z","author":"Aizuku","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aizuku-2010-02-24T12:51:00.000Z-Removed_and_added_a_few_links","replies":[]}}-->

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Please remove B2B companies

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The current template includes Business-to-business companies. The products of Advantest, Horiba, Tokyo Electron, and Yokogawa Electric are definitely not consumer electronics, so they should be removed. I support Aizuku's proposal. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T17:01:00.000Z","author":"Shinkansen Fan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shinkansen_Fan-2010-08-06T17:01:00.000Z-Please_remove_B2B_companies","replies":["c-Aizuku-2010-08-11T12:25:00.000Z-Shinkansen_Fan-2010-08-06T17:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree with you B2B companies shouldn't be included. If no one minds I'm gonna go ahead and remove B2B companies --Aizuku (talk) 12:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T12:25:00.000Z","author":"Aizuku","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Aizuku-2010-08-11T12:25:00.000Z-Shinkansen_Fan-2010-08-06T17:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shinkansen_Fan-2010-12-28T15:00:00.000Z-Aizuku-2010-08-11T12:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
This website may be a good source: Members of Association for Eletric Home Appliances. In addition to the companies that you have listed above, I think the following members of this organization are notable:
* Cooking: Zojirushi Corporation, Tiger Corporation
* HVAC: Corona Corporation (TYO: 5909), Daikin, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries
* Audio: TEAC
Sanyo and Panasonic Electric Works should be included too. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 15:00, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-28T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Shinkansen Fan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Shinkansen_Fan-2010-12-28T15:00:00.000Z-Aizuku-2010-08-11T12:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->