Template talk:DSL technologies

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For many other protocols and standards, the navbox template is used, e.g.

I believe that changing this custom table to a navbox would increase readability by allowing the various standards to be grouped. In addition, by using a well known template, the code would be easier to maintain and edit, and consistency between navboxes would be increased. Please comment. Conquerist (talk) 02:25, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-12T02:25:00.000Z","author":"Conquerist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Conquerist-2014-02-12T02:25:00.000Z-Change_from_sidebar_to_navbox?","replies":[]}}-->

Here's a draft:

Some pointers for comments / discussion:

  • Include official standard names? (G.99x.x)
  • First layer: symmetric / asymmetric, Second layer: standardized / proprietary or vice-versa?
  • "ANSI/ETSI/ITU-T" or "standardized"?
  • There are some more oddballs in DSL#DSL technologies, they probably belong here as well
  • What should be done with the ambiguous terms ADSL and SDSL. Both can be used as umbrella terms, but also have more specific uses: ADSL in the article refers to a first generation set of asymmetric DSL, while SDSL in the article refers to a specific proprietary variant.
  • What about non-telephone local loop "DSL"? Those are in the current template, but do they really belong here?

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New Draft:

Added most of the oddballs from Digital subscriber line#DSL technologies. Some were hard to sort

  • RADSL: not a DSL standard of its own?
  • PDSL: "Powerline DSL" - DSL uses telephone lines per definition in digital subscriber line.

Also added G.fast. Sorting into asymmetric and symmetric is also tough on a few:

  • VDSL and G.fast really don't belong under asymmetric. Symmetric service is also possible, see ITU-T G.Sup50. Or, symmetric can be seen as a special case of asymmetric.
  • Etherloop: it's half-duplex, so it's technically symmetric, just not at the same time

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Related discussion: Talk:Digital_subscriber_line#New_Template_of_DSL_Topics. Conquerist (talk) 13:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Conquerist","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Conquerist-2014-02-14T13:21:00.000Z-Conquerist-2014-02-13T20:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->